Line #26 WhatAnIdiot/DanganRonpa


1	->''"This entire discussion is idiotic..."''
2	-->-- '''Byakuya Togami''', ''VisualNovel/DanganronpaTriggerHappyHavoc''
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4	Most of these involve screw-ups during murders, so '''all spoilers are unmarked.'''
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8	!!In general:
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10	[[folder:In General]]
11	* [[BigBad Monokuma/The Mastermind]] has trapped 15-16 high school students in a DeadlyGame where they're forced to get away with murder in order to escape.\
12	'''You'd Expect:''' One of the wannabe murderers to realize that they have been denied basic forensic equipment, grab a bludgeon, and simply [[BoringButPractical whack someone on the head when they go for a late night snack or something similar]].[[note]]The cast of ''Trigger Happy Havoc'' does have a rule against going out during nighttime in order to prevent this, but there's no such rule in the next two main games. The student council in ''V3'' tries to implement a similar rule, but only for everyone not in the student council, which doesn't work.[[/note]]\
13	'''Instead:''' They (or at least the one who actually plans things out in advance) commit [[ComplexityAddiction insanely complicated murders]] that ultimately [[OrgyOfEvidence leave behind plenty of evidence]] for a plucky young OrdinaryHighSchoolStudent with IdiotHair to collect and use to pin them for the murder.[[note]]In fact, Tsumugi and Korekiyo from ''V3'', two murderers who DO simply whack someone on the head without any precautions or plans, rank among the closest to getting away with it. Korekiyo is implicated mostly using evidence from his other and far more complicated murder, and Tsumugi actually ''did'' get away with it for almost the whole game, even succesfully framing Kaede for it.[[/note]]\
14	'''As a Result''': The other students inevitably pick up on the clues, resulting in the culprits being caught and executed.
15	* In a good chunk of the cases[[note]]Such as Chapter 1 of ''Trigger Happy Havoc'' and Chapter 2 of ''V3''.[[/note]], the victims are found in a manner that would heavily indict the "murderer" in the killing[[note]]Sayaka being stabbed in Makoto's room, and Ryoma's remains being devoured by piranhas in front of everyone during Himiko's magic show.[[/note]], effectively serving an obvious culprit[[note]]Makoto and Himiko, respectively.[[/note]] to the other students on a silver platter.\
16	'''You'd Expect:''' That the other students would realize that, considering their circumstances, only [[TooDumbToLive a complete moron]] would murder someone in a manner that serves to implicate them like that, or at least not think to move the body to a less conspicuous location, [[NeverTheObviousSuspect and realize that]] it's a FrameUp by the true culprit.\
17	'''Instead:''' They believe it with absolute blind faith and proceed to accuse the framed party with this so-called "definite evidence", forcing the protagonist or one of the smarter students to clear up the misunderstanding.
18	* As each game goes on, TheProtagonist does the grand majority of the work investigating and ultimately deciphering each murder.\
19	'''You'd Expect:''' For the other students to eventually pick up on this and question their judgment less, since they always seem to get the right person.\
20	'''Instead:''' There's always at least one student besides the killer who insists that the protagonist is wrong about something, even if they never have been before. In the second game, this usually leads to a Rebuttal Showdown. Then again, [[RuleOfFun where would the fun be if everyone went along with everything you claimed?]]
21	* Following from the previous point, it should quickly become clear for the killers (or at least those who plan their murders) that the protagonists who lead the others through the class trials are a clear threat to them getting away with their murders and escaping.\
22	'''You'd Expect:''' That the killers would plan to kill ''them'', and maybe also take advantage of the "two kills per student" rule to go for the helpful {{Deuteragonist}} while they're at it. With them gone, the culprits could have a much easier time misdirecting the other students and get away with their crime. And even if that fails, for the next class trials, all the killers have to do is kill the tritagonist next. With all three of the competent participants gone, the probability that the other students would vote for the killer as the blackened would be next to none.\
23	'''Instead:''' They hardly even ''try'' to do this, and at most just attempt to frame them.\
24	'''As a Result:''' [[CruelAndUnusualDeath Execution.]]
25	[[/folder]]
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27	!!Main installments:
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29	[[folder:''Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc'']]
30	* In Chapter 1:
31	** Sayaka is planning to murder someone in order to escape and help the rest of her idol group. She swaps rooms with Makoto, intending to lead someone into "her" room, kill them, and pin it on Makoto.\
32	'''You'd Expect:''' For her to go after someone on the weaker side, like Hifumi, Chihiro, Toko, or "Junko".[[note]] Granted, Toko and especially "Junko" would have caused major complications, but she didn't know that.[[/note]] After all, even with a knife it's possible for her to be subdued.\
33	'''Instead:''' She goes after Leon, an athlete is who is among the physically strongest students in the class. Admittedly, Leon had a crush on her and was probably one of the easiest to manipulate, but Sayaka is at a severe disadvantage once she no longer has the element of surprise.\
34	'''As a Result:''' [[HoistByHerOwnPetard Leon overpowers and kills her]].
35	** One exclusive to the manga adaptation. Leon has just beaten back Sayaka's murder attempt, and she has locked herself in Makoto's bathroom. Note that in this version, she is still armed with a knife and is clearly homicidally unstable.\
36	'''You'd Expect:''' Leon to run off and get help from someone big and strong like Mondo or Sakura before he makes his next move.\
37	'''Instead:''' He charges in on his own in a half-cocked attempt to calm her down.\
38	'''The Result:''' Sayaka attacks again in a blind panic [[AccidentalMurder and is killed in the struggle]]. Leon thus becomes the first blackened, and is brutally executed after being caught in the ensuing class trial.
39	** Leon has Sayaka murdered in the bathroom. He decides to remove all evidence of his presence in the dormitory, down to cleaning up his hair.\
40	'''You'd Expect:''' Leon to check the body and ensure that Sayaka had neither prepared anything to implicate him should her plan fail nor used her last moments to somehow link him to the incident.\
41	'''Instead:''' He completely neglects the body and, therefore, the dying message. Granted, it's implied he was in a state of panic during the whole thing, but he still had several hours to calm down and try to think things through somewhat rationally.\
42	'''As a Result''': Makoto and Kyoko find a piece of evidence that specifically implicates Leon. While there were several other pieces that helped prove Leon's guilt (the burnt sleeve of his bloody shirt and the screwdriver), they couldn't have conclusively proven it without that one.
43	* In Chapter 2, Mondo makes a foolish mistake that gets him caught, convicted, and executed. Celeste testifies that she saw Chihiro stuff a tracksuit into a duffel bag on his way to the locker room. Since Kyoko insists that the tracksuit is key, and it seems that the killer and victim were going to train before the murder occurred, Kiyotaka mulls that maybe the tracksuit matched the killer's.\
44	'''You'd Expect:''' For Mondo to think carefully about what he'll say, before attempting to contribute to that line of thinking.\
45	'''Or:''' That he'd just stay quiet.\
46	'''Instead:''' He suggests that would mean they're looking for someone with the same blue tracksuit as Chihiro's. [[INeverSaidItWasPoison Celeste never mentioned what color the tracksuit was]] at any point during the trial, and the only ones who knew that it was blue were her and Makoto.\
47	'''As a Result''': The others realize that he was the only person who could have met with Chihiro (although Kyoko was already suspicious of him based on a previous slip of his tongue), and is quickly exposed as the murderer. He doesn't try especially hard to avoid suspicion, but he wasn't planning on getting caught either.
48	* Chapter 3 has ''a lot'' of gaffes by the killer and her accomplice, as well as the other students getting a hold of the IdiotBall.
49	** Hifumi makes a costume to force Yasuhiro in to frame him for the murder of Kiyotaka.\
50	'''You'd Expect:''' For the costume to be actually possible to commit crimes while ''in'' it, even if Hifumi wasn't fully aware of all of the details the frame-up would need.\
51	'''Instead:''' The costume makes it very hard for the user to move around in and impossible for them bend over, and has a latch on it that prevents anyone wearing it from actually taking it off themselves.\
52	'''As a Result:''' While it does stop Yasuhiro from ditching the costume after regaining consciousness, and ensures that he stands upright while unconscious (which is necessary when posing for the "attack" photo), the design flaws mean that the others quickly realize that there's no way Yasuhiro could possibly be the killer.
53	** Makoto, Celeste and Aoi find Hifumi's supposed dead body. Makoto leaves to see Byakuya, who has found Kiyotaka's body. When Makoto returns with Byakuya, Hifumi has disappeared and is later found dying for real on another floor. This is all part of Celeste's plan.\
54	'''You'd Expect:''' Celeste to exercise her right to remain silent, for anything she says can and will be used against her in the Class Trial.\
55	'''Instead:''' Celeste goes on the attack the moment the class trial starts, fighting with Makoto over every point he makes and being incredibely pushy with her claims of Yasuhiro being the killer, which leads everyone to find her suspicious before any incriminating evidence against her is even found.
56	** Both Kiyotaka and Hifumi have been supposedly killed by a mysterious figure named "Robo Justice", who's wearing some kind of cardboard robot outfit to hide their identity, which they later learn is Yasuhiro. It later turns that Yasuhiro isn't the culprit, [[TheScapegoat but was actually set up to be framed for killing them by Celeste]], who had Hifumi create the costume to put a unconscious Yasuhiro in so they take a photo to frame him and make sure he's discovered wearing the suit to indict him in the murder of Taka and then Hifumi [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness when the latter's role is finished]].\
57	'''You'd Expect:''' That everyone would realize that a complete moron like Yasuhiro wouldn't be able to pull off such a complex plan ''and'' evade them while wearing such a bulky costume, which just so happens to only fit Yasuhiro, not to mention that he can't take it off by himself and it pretty much prevents him from moving around in. And even if they could claim he was ObfuscatingStupidity the whole time, that immediately gets contradicted by him pulling a Yasuhiro and getting stuck in a locker while in the suit when the others find him, which, like mentioned above in the "In General" folder, points to him as an [[RedHerring obvious culprit]].\
58	'''Instead:''' The others, namely Aoi and Celeste (the ''murderer''), are adamant that he did it, with Celeste in particular dismissing any logic she's presented with in favor of her acussations against Yasuhiro.
59	** Hifumi is supposedly found dead in the Infirmary on the First Floor, then when his body disappears and he is later found on the Art Room Repository on the Third Floor.\
60	'''You'd Expect:''' That the other students, even though they're in a state of panic over the Robo Justice Fiasco, would realize after the shock has passed that because Hifumi is so fat, it would be impossible for anyone to move him (and because the only one who would be strong enough to move him, Sakura, was on a different floor at the time and never left Byakuya's side), and that the only one who could move him is himself. Even if someone tried to use the dolly to move Hifumi's Body, he would still be too heavy to be able to be moved upstairs up blocky steps that are all raised higher than the other, and because with his weight you would pretty much have to fight gravity itself to get him all the way up to the third floor, which would make it impossible for anyone else even with the dolly to move him all the way from the Infirmary on the first floor to the Art Room Repository on the third floor.\
61	'''Instead:''' No one even stops to bother thinking that it would be impossible for anyone but Hifumi to be able to move himself to the Art Room Repository on the third floor.\
62	'''As a Result:''' The Students fall for Celeste's plan to try to confuse them more than ever to try to throw them off her case so that they would not vote for her as the culprit.
63	** Hifumi tries to lure Kiyotaka and Yasuhiro with unsigned letters in which he states that he found a escape route in the physics lab and the rec room, respectively.\
64	'''You'd Expect:''' That because it was confirmed by everyone else a few days ago that there are no escape routes in the third floor, and that the letters tell them to meet the author alone at nightime, the period when they're ''not'' supposed to be out due to their self-imposed curfew and the fact that both Sayaka and Chihiro's murders took place at night, that they find the notes suspicious and ignore them, or that they at least bring someone along with them to the meeting.\
65	'''Instead:''' [[TooDumbToLive They go alone to the places at the respective times.]] It's understandable in the case of Yasuhiro, since he's supposed to be a complete moron, but it's odd coming from Kiyotaka, ''a straight-A student''.\
66	'''As a Result:''' Hifumi bashes Kiyotaka's brains in with a hammer and Yasuhiro is put to sleep and stuffed into the Robo Justice costume, so Celeste [[TheScapegoat can implicate him for her crimes]].
67	** Celeste finds Hifumi playing dead in the Infirmary alongside Hina and Makoto.\
68	'''You'd Expect''': That Celeste chooses her words properly when trying to make herself look like an innocent bystander.\
69	'''Instead''': She makes a dramatic monologue about how everyone is going to die "just like those guys did". Keep in mind, [[INeverSaidItWasPoison no one had told her that Kiyotaka was dead yet]].\
70	'''As a Result''': This gives the other students irrefutable proof that she indirectly killed Kiyotaka.\
71	'''Even Worse''': Celeste could've simply just said that she was talking about the other students that had died prior to Chapter 3 in order to escape the situation!
72	** Celeste had told Hifumi that he had to pretend being dead in order for her plan to work, and that he would simply tell the other students that he barely managed to escape death while she killed another student.\
73	'''You'd Expect:''' Given that they're in a DeadlyGame, Hifumi would realize that Celeste is telling him a bunch of bullshit, as there's no way he would have been able to survive being hit with a hammer as big as "Justice Hammer 3" is.\
74	'''Instead:''' [[TooDumbToLive He goes along with Celeste's plan without questioning.]]\
75	'''As a Result:''' Hifumi [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness learns the hard way]] that the student Celeste was going to kill was no one but himself.
76	** Another Hifumi moment comes from when Celeste comes to ask for his help in killing Kiyotaka. Namely, she claims that one of the reasons she wants to kill him was because Kiyotaka raped her.\
77	'''You'd Expect:''' Hifumi to realize that Celeste is full of bullshit since Kiyotaka is the Ultimate ''Moral Compass'' and, with how much respect he puts on things like being an upright person, would never consider raping someone. Thus, he would turn the offer down or mention it to the other students so they know not to trust her.\
78	'''If Not that:''' Hifumi should know better than anyone that Celeste is capable of intimidating others with just words alone, as she managed to intimidate Mondo, of all people, just by asking a cup of tea, meaning that the fact that someone like Kiyotaka would try to force himself upon Celeste becomes even less likely.\
79	'''Instead:''' Hifumi doesn't question it and happily goes along with the plan to kill Kiyotaka.\
80	'''As a Result:''' Needless to say, Celeste only went after him since she knew he was SuperGullible and [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness kills him the moment he's served his purpose]].
81	* In Chapter 4:
82	** Kyoko realizes that Makoto is hiding something, that being that Sakura is TheMole, and asks him to tell her what it is, citing their new partnership and his previous words that they need to work together.\
83	'''You'd Expect:''' Makoto to just tell her. Sure, he's not certain that Sakura's TheMole and it would kind of feed Kyoko's hypocritical view on secret keeping, but it's not like Kyoko, quite possibly the most rational student in the school, is just gonna take this info and confront Sakura with it in front of everyone, especially when, as he points, there's very little evidence that this could be the case. Plus, he can just ask her to keep it close to her heart for the time-being, which she's likely to do if he confirms he's working off an assumption, at most just investigating further on her end.\
84	'''Or at Least:''' If he really thinks telling her would be a bad idea, he could just give her the same reason she did for not telling him about what was on the files in the hidden room; that he's still looking into it himself and would tell her once he finds out something. Sure, she might be slightly annoyed, but she'd at least be more lenient if she knew he wanted to make sure the info is reliable like she is.\
85	'''Instead:''' [[ButThouMust Even if the player wants to tell her]], he opts to keep it to himself and gives her no explanation as to why.\
86	'''As a Result:''' It puts a rift between them, with Kyoko giving Makoto the silent treatment for more than half of the chapter, preventing them from doing Free Time Events.
87	** Sakura [[HeroicSuicide commits suicide]] and leaves a note detailing how she hopes her act will release Monokuma's hold on the students and give them a new sense of hope. Monokuma then proceeds to take the note and replaces it with a fake one that says she killed herself because she couldn't handle the despair of the school, which results in Aoi blaming herself and the other students for her suicide, [[TakingYouWithMe causing her to implicate herself as the killer and try to get everyone, including herself, executed]].\
88	'''You'd Expect:''' Monokuma would keep the real note to himself or even destroy it. With the amount of despair that Aoi was suffering, she would have likely killed somebody in revenge the following chapter, or alternatively someone would have killed her for trying to get them all killed.\
89	'''Instead:''' He reveals the note Aoi had found to be a fake and shows them the real note revealing Sakura's real reasons for [[HeroicSacrifice killing herself]] and mocks Hina for falling for his fake message believing that this scoff would get the other students to turn on her.\
90	'''As a Result:''' Not only is Aoi forgiven for attempting to get everybody killed, but all of the students turn the blame towards Monokuma for tampering with the evidence and causing them to vow to putting an end to his game. Even though Monokuma does manage to get the last laugh in the situation by executing [[ArtificialIntelligence Alter Ego]] (who still saves Makoto from being executed in Chapter 5), he had practically allowed the heroes to [[NiceJobFixingItVillain develop a new sense of hope]].
91	* In Chapter 5, the murder victim is unknown when her body is first discovered. The students believe that the victim was either Kyoko (who went on to explore areas the other students couldn't access) or the mysterious sixteenth student that no one had seen before. Right before the class trial, Kyoko finally shows up.\
92	'''You'd Expect:''' For everyone to figure that the sixteenth student was the one who was killed.\
93	'''Instead:''' [[TheDitz Yasuhiro]] insists that Kyoko [[InsaneTrollLogic was the murder victim and is standing before them only because she's a ghost]].\
94	'''As a Result:''' Makoto has to go out of his way to prove to Yasuhiro that Kyoko, who is ''participating in the trial'', is not dead. [[LampshadeHanging Byakuya flat-out finds the subject too stupid for him to get involved]].
95	* During the final investigation, Makoto and Hina go into the data center to investigate. In the attached Monokuma control room, there's a hatch door.\
96	'''You'd Expect:''' For them to try and open it.\
97	'''Instead:''' When Makoto tries to open it, Hina insists on them leaving.\
98	'''As a Result''': After they leave the data center, Monokuma locks the door, then tells them that the mastermind was under the hatch and mocks them for missing their chance... or they would have, if the hatch opened from the outside.
99	[[/folder]]
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101	[[folder:''Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair'']]
102	%%Please refrain from adding an example about how Teruteru wanted to kill Nagito because of Nagito's behavior and try to state that he should tell everybody about his behavior in order to do a non-lethal method over him. The game made it clear he had an additional motive to kill somebody so killing Nagito SOLELY because of his behavior does not add up.
103	* In Chapter 2:
104	** Upon learning of his sister's murder and how Mahiru covered it up, Fuyuhiko has Peko, his secret bodyguard, send her and Hiyoko threatening letters to get them to the beach house, planning to kill Mahiru and frame Hiyoko for the crime. However, when Mahiru arrives with Hiyoko chloroformed in the closet, he has second thoughts and seems close to not going through with it.\
105	'''You'd Expect:''' That Mahiru, being the OnlySaneWoman she is, would recognize the situation she's in and try and placate Fuyuhiko as best she can.\
106	'''Instead:''' She gets the [[SarcasmMode brilliant]] idea to call out Fuyuhiko, the Ultimate Yakuza with an established HairTriggerTemper who has recently learned that she was an accomplice of the girl that murdered his sister and is therefore still trying to come to terms with it, and [[FailedASpotCheck has a metal bat]] ''[[FailedASpotCheck right next to him]]'', on avenging his sister by killing Girl E (Sato).\
107	'''As a Result:''' She gets bludgeoned to death, though by Peko instead of Fuyuhiko due to her noticing him going for the bat in his anger and attacking before he can so he doesn't get executed should he get exposed as the blackened.
108	** Hiyoko receives a note to go to a beach house and is knocked out. When she comes to, she finds Mahiru dead from a blow to the head and herself as the prime suspect at the class trial.\
109	'''You'd Expect:''' She'd tell the truth, and nothing but the truth. After all, if she's caught lying, suspicion would fall further on her.\
110	'''Instead:''' She fails [[NotHelpingYourCase to help her case]] by [[BlatantLies outright lying]], such as denying ever being at the beach house when the others saw her running from that direction. This shifts the blame further and further on her.\
111	'''As a Result:''' A great deal of the students believe that she's the killer and nearly vote for her as the blackened before Hajime is able to put a stop to it.
112	* In Chapter 3:
113	** After Fuyuhiko returns from being treated and is now missing an eye, Akane decides to go and fight ''Monokuma'', despite knowing that this is a violation of school rules and that Monokuma can kill her with no repercussions for it. Nekomaru and the others warn her not to do anything reckless, but she runs off anyway.\
114	'''You'd Expect:''' That Akane would rethink her decision or at the very least tell someone about her plans to stop the killing game with brute force.\
115	'''Instead:''' [[TooDumbToLive She attacks Monokuma]], who effortlessly dodges all her attacks and then tries to shoot her with a bazooka, forcing Nekomaru to [[TakingTheBullet jump in the way]].\
116	'''As a Result:''' Nekomaru gets so badly injured that Monokuma has to resurrect him as a robot. Akane not only fails to avenge Fuyuhiko's injuries, but her recklessness nearly gets Nekomaru killed.\
117	'''Even Worse:''' After Nekomaru returns as a robot, [[TooDumbToLive Akane decides]] '''[[LethallyStupid to attack Monokuma]]''' '''''[[LethallyStupid again]]'''''. Yet again, it fails, Monokuma tries to kill her, only for Nekomaru to block the attack a second time. While Nekomaru's new body is tough enough to tank the explosion, there was no reason to tempt fate.
118	*** It gets more idiotic in this moment's stage play version, where Akane decides to rally the other students in her attempt to take down Monokuma.\
119	'''You'd Expect:''' That the other students would try and talk her down so she wouldn't risk even more people dying.\
120	'''Instead:''' Nekomaru (who has been still human up to this point), Fuyuhiko and Gundham all decide to aid her in a battle against an entire ''army'' of Monokuma copies.\
121	'''As a Result:''' While the four try to do their best, the fight goes as well as you'd expect. Akane and Fuyuhiko manage to get off easily after suffering a defeat, but Nekomaru and Gundham are not so lucky and end up killed.
122	** The motive for this chapter ends up being the Despair Disease, a contagious virus that that causes those afflicted to suffer from high fevers and severe personality shifts that, as evidenced by it's first three victims, [[ProneToTears Akane]], [[SuperGullible Ibuki]] and [[ConsummateLiar Nagito]], either leaves them vulnerable, likely to commit murder, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking or just plain annoying.]] After coming to terms with the situation and discussing it, they decide to impose a quarantine on the sick students, with [[TheMedic Mikan]] being put in charge of their care.\
123	'''You'd Expect:''' That they, or at least Mikan, would get stuff like masks or gloves from the supermarket so they can better protect themselves from infection in the event they have to interact with the infected, especially Mikan.\
124	'''Instead:''' They, [[IdiotBall which bafflingly includes Mikan]], take no such countermeasures against the spread of the disease.\
125	'''As a Result:''' Mikan gets infected and her brand of the disease, which restores her memories as an Ultimate Despair and compels her to commit a murder, getting herself, Ibuki and Hiyoko killed in the process.
126	** Continuing from the aforementioned moment when she catches the Despair Disease and plans her murder, Mikan decides to target Ibuki, knowing that killing someone who is well-liked will cause everyone to fall into despair. Additionally, Ibuki is one of those infected by the disease, namely by a strand that makes her SuperGullible.\
127	'''You'd Expect:''' That Mikan would trick Ibuki into killing herself. That way, Monokuma can't execute Mikan since [[LoopholeAbuse she technically wouldn't have killed Ibuki]].\
128	'''Instead:''' Mikan kills Ibuki, as well as Hiyoko [[SheKnowsTooMuch as she walked in on her killing Ibuki]], with her bare hands.\
129	'''As a Result:''' After getting caught, Mikan is executed.\
130	[[/folder]]
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132	[[folder:''Danganronpa 3: The End of Hope's Peak High School'']]
133	* After Natsumi is killed, Hajime wants to find out what happened. However, Juzo Sakakura believes that the Hope's Peak committee will try to kill him for investigating. He doesn't want that to happen.\
134	'''You'd Expect:''' Juzo to politely ask him to not investigate and warn him about the consequences of doing so.\
135	'''Instead:''' He acts like a JerkJock towards Hajime, physically assaults him, and gives him a BreakingSpeech to make sure he doesn't investigate.\
136	'''As a Result:''' It becomes the final catalyst for Hajime to become Izuru Kamukura. So, yeah, NiceJobBreakingItHero.
137	* Nagito plants a bomb that Ruruka and Seiko accidentally detonate. Afterwards, the headmaster of Hope's Peak Academy needs to decide how to punish the people involved in the bomb incident.\
138	'''You'd Expect:''' For the headmaster to realize that Seiko and Ruruka were innocent or at least investigate their involvement. He'd also know that Sonosuke Izayoi, Ruruka's boyfriend, who was there at the time, had nothing to do with it. He'd also realize that Nagito is now a guaranteed threat to everyone at Hope's Peak.\
139	'''Instead:''' He expels Seiko, Ruruka, and Sonosuke and only suspends Nagito just because of how [[BornLucky lucky]] he is.\
140	'''As a Result:''' Not only does this solidify the rift between the first three, but Nagito goes on to be one of the people who brings down Hope's Peak Academy, which could have been prevented had he been kept away from the series' BigBad.
141	* As revealed in a flashback to when Andou and Kimura were younger, Andou offered some candy to Kimura, but Kimura declined it, saying that she could die from eating candy due to her medication.\
142	'''You'd Expect:''' For Andou to understand this and still be her friend.\
143	'''Instead:''' Andou starts hating Kimura just because she wouldn't eat something that would have put her life at risk.
144	* Izayoi finds a hidden door inside the library and tells Andou about it.\
145	'''You'd Expect:''' Andou to realize that, if her boyfriend wanted to betray her, he would have escaped by himself instead of telling her about it.\
146	'''You'd Also Expect''': Since her Forbidden Action is "letting anyone leave the playing zone", she would open, but not go through, the door to make sure it is the exit.\
147	'''Instead:''' Andou has Izayoi fill the library with deadly traps, making the others even more suspicious, then gives in to her paranoia and [[MurderIsTheBestSolution kills]] the most likely person to protect her in case of someone else finding the exit.\
148	'''Even Worse:''' Once everybody figures out she was the one who killed Izayoi, nobody trusts her for the rest of the game; Juzo seems to have no issues with trying to trigger her NG code and neither Kyouko nor Mitarai seem inclined to intervene. So, by killing somebody who is unlikely to betray her, [[SelfFulfillingProphecy nobody trusts her]].\
149	'''As a Result:''' Juzo opens the hidden door, which is not an exit, but the power room. Andou, having killed Izayoi and Kizakura for nothing, dies to "the attacker".
150	* During his confrontation with Junko Enoshima, Nagito is shot and wounded, forcing Chiaki to drag his barely-conscious carcass back to the main building. After explaining the situation, the 77th class decides to embark on a rescue mission for the captive Chisa.\
151	'''You'd Expect:''' Them to realize that the wounded Nagito is currently dead weight and leave him behind, preferably in the care of [[TheMedic Mikan]][[note]]which likely would have turned out badly since Junko had already brainwashed Mikan, but it's a good option from the students' perspective, as they have no way of knowing this[[/note]] or a trustworthy adult.\
152	'''Instead:''' They force Kazuichi to drag his barely-conscious carcass ''right back to Junko''.\
153	'''You'd Also Expect:''' That they would they would alert the authorities (school security, police) before confronting the villain, and they would think twice about sending everyone, given that the villain has a bodyguard/sister who had already beaten one of the best combatants in the class.\
154	'''Instead:''' Every single member of the class (most of whom have zero combat experience) happily march straight to Junko's lair without letting anyone else know where they went. This goes about as well as you'd expect.
155	* The mastermind of the final killing game, Kazuo Tengan, has these moments in ''spades''.
156	** Because he wasn't confident that the war against despair was going to be won through constantly fighting against it and trying to keep the survivors of The Tragedy safe, Tengan wanted to find a way for Ryota Mitarai to play his anime to spread hope throughout the world.\
157	'''You'd Expect:''' To find a way to convince or deceive him into playing the anime that would not involve any possibility where Ryota may die in the process.\
158	'''Instead:''' He devises the final killing game to shatter Ryota's spirit to the point where he will choose to use the brainwashing anime.\
159	'''You'd Also Expect:''' Tengan to make good and damn sure that Mitarai doesn't get involved in the killing game, either by keeping him as far away from the action as possible or simply leaving him in the above-water boardroom rather than moving him to its underwater duplicate with everyone else after the first round of sleeping gas was deployed.\
160	'''Instead:''' He lets him participate despite the inherent and extremely high risks that a killing game brings. While Tengan is '''incredibly''' lucky that Ryota manages to survive the final killing game in its entirety, one has to wonder how things would have changed if Ryota had been killed at any point in the game.
161	** As part of Tengan's plan, Ryota would have to see the killing game in some way.\
162	'''You'd Expect:''' In the scenario where Ryota isn't directly involved in the killing game, Tengan would find a way to broadcast the killing game to Ryota.\
163	'''Instead (!):''' Despite Monokuma's claims to the contrary, the killing game was not broadcast for anybody to see. In fact, the building where the final killing game takes place appears to have absolutely no cameras inside it.
164	** Toward the midway point of the final killing game, Tengan is questioned by Munakata on who the attacker is.\
165	'''You'd Expect:''' Tengan would either wait to bleed out from his stomach injury, or word his response in a way that won't make Munakata completely lose it, since lying would violate his forbidden action.\
166	'''Instead (!!):''' Tengan purposely words his response to make Munakata go on a murderous rampage through the building. Given how powerful and dangerous Munakata is normally, had Mitarai run afoul of him at any point, he would be royally screwed.\
167	'''In Spite of All of This:''' [[GambitRoulette Tengan's plan goes off without much of a hitch]], allowing Mitarai to become the main antagonist of ''Side:Hope''...only for Mitarai to completely undo the plan anyway when confronted and EasilyForgiven by Class 77-B. NiceJobFixingItVillain...
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169
170	[[folder:''Danganronpa [=V3=]: Killing Harmony'']]
171	* In Chapter 1:
172	** Shuichi, of all people, makes a couple mistakes that complicate things for the first trial.
173	*** Shuichi and Kaede are set to retrieve the cameras they had Miu make for them, but the morning they go to do this, Angie informs them that there is a fight going on in the dining hall. Kaede goes to de-escalate things, while Shuichi goes to get the cameras from Miu alone. There, she tells him the cameras auto-roll the film in 30-second intervals, information that could be important.\
174	'''You'd Expect:''' Shuichi to tell Kaede about the intervals while they're setting the cameras up in the library, or mention such information before the trial in some way.\
175	'''Instead:''' He picks up the IdiotBall and forgets to mention such information to anybody prior to the trial.\
176	'''As a Result:''' By the time the subject comes up during the trial, Shuichi's claim of simply forgetting to mention the intervals, while apparently accurate, are not believed by anybody, and he is quickly suspected.
177	*** During the first trial, while answering the question of where the shot put ball came from, he realizes that Kaede was holding a shot put ball when they went to get the cameras for Miu. He then suspects that Kaede killed Rantaro, but doesn't want to accuse her.\
178	'''You'd Expect:''' Him to keep his suspicions in the back of his mind, but still participate in the trial.\
179	'''Instead:''' He goes borderline catatonic upon this realization, an act that does not go unnoticed.\
180	'''As a Result:''' This silence only condemns him further when he needs to defend himself from Mistake 1. Kaede literally has to LIE to get him off the hook, and even then, a Scrum Debate is still needed to get him to finally talk.
181	** The entire cast also gets one during the trial. [[CassandraTruth Ryoma Hoshi and Angie Yonaga]] believe that the murderer was lurking in the Library and snuck up on Rantaro Amami before killing him. Ryoma in particular suspects [[BigBad Tsumugi]] to be the killer. Kaede (who believes herself to be the culprit) rebuttles that the dust on the card has not been moved, and thus they couldn't have entered the door.\
182	'''You'd Expect:''' For Ryoma, or one of the more intelligent students (like Kirumi, Kokichi, Shuichi, Maki and Korekiyo) to point out that it's possible that, if the mastermind is the culprit, that they left other ways of entering the lair that have not yet been discovered, as not all of the school is even open, and additionally, to call for an investigation of everywhere that everyone without an alibi claimed they were occupying (the girls' bathroom for Tsumugi, and the dorm rooms for Ryoma, Kokichi and Keebo).\
183	'''Instead:''' This never occurs to anyone, and Kaede is later executed for a crime she didn't commit.\
184	'''As a Result:''' The mastermind's frame job on Kaede is successful and the killing game continues (ending with a total of thirteen casualties to boot). Had the students been able to discover the mastermind's secret entrance, the game possibly would have ended early.
185	* In Chapter 2:
186	** Himiko Yumeno is the prime suspect for the murder of Ryoma Hoshi thanks to the murder taking place during her magic show (as Ryoma is found dead in the area of the trick). \
187	'''You'd Expect:''' For Himiko to explain the magic trick instead of her usual insistence that she was using real magic. After all, if she tries to hide how the trick works, she would end up looking even more suspicious.\
188	'''Instead:''' [[NotHelpingYourCase Himiko keeps insisting that she used real magic]] instead of her explaining how the trick works because [[SarcasmMode having to state that you used real magic is way more important than the lives of you and all of the other students except for a cold-blooded murderer.]] Funnily enough, there is an alternate scene where Shuichi ''does'' agree with Himiko that she actually used magic. But that only makes her more suspicious leading to her, somehow, managing to bullshit her way out of that.
189	** Kirumi Tojo murders Ryoma by drowning him in his lab's sink.\
190	'''You'd Expect:''' For her to leave the body where it was. As pointed out in the trial, ''none'' of the students have an alibi for the time the murder occurred. Additionally, there was no evidence at the murder scene that could conclusively prove who did it.\
191	'''Instead:''' She sets up a ludicrously complicated scenario involving a ropeway between Ryoma's lab and the gym through the pool area, allowing her to transport the body and dump it in the tank set up for Himiko's magic trick and frame her for the murder.\
192	'''As a Result:''' While executing her plan, she accidentally leaves two damning pieces of evidence in the pool, and can't retrieve them because Monokuma strictly forbids entering the pool at night. Additionally, in order to make the plan work, she had to make preparations ''before'' the murder, something Shuichi realizes only one person could have had the opportunity to pull off.\
193	'''You'd Then Expect:''' That the first thing she does in the morning or after the investigation starts is to make a beeline for the pool and remove the evidence from it.\
194	'''Instead:''' She seemingly doesn't think to do that either, implicating her even further.\
195	'''As a Result:''' Kirumi is found as Ryoma's killer and gets executed.
196	* In Chapter 3:
197	** Korekiyo Shinguji is a SerialKiller who kills girls worthy of being his sister's friends and he wants to kill somebody in this killing game.\
198	'''You'd Expect:''' For him to kill somebody in the first chapter where the culprit [[KarmaHoudini can leave the academy without any punishment or class trial]], and not have to worry about his possible death if the time limit for the murder to take place happened. Granted, he might have learned this only after watching the Flashback Light at the point when the First Blood Perk does not work anymore, but he mentioned his sister even before that.\
199	'''Instead:''' He decides to commit a murder in this chapter, so he'll have to worry about possibly being executed.
200	** Korekiyo is setting up a murder trap so his deceased sister can have another friend in the afterlife. Angie Yonaga runs into Korekiyo placing the trap, forcing him to kill her because SheKnowsTooMuch.\
201	'''You'd Expect:''' Since there would be no condemning evidence to convict him for Angie's murder, for him to abandon the trap plan, win the ensuing class trial, and allow Tsumugi, Himiko, and Tenko (a.k.a. three girls he views as potential good friends for his sister, as he sees every single female student as these with the exceptions of Maki and Miu) to die via execution.[[note]]It's possible that he has to kill the girls he wants his sister to befriend with his own hands, but it's never stated outright[[/note]]\
202	'''Instead:''' He uses the trap to commit a second murder, [[ForTheEvulz just because he didn't want to "waste" the trap.]]\
203	'''As a Result:''' The second crime scene gives his classmates plenty of evidence to condemn him for both murders, and the decisive piece of evidence for Angie's murder would not have been discovered if he hadn't gotten greedy.
204	** Tenko is murdered during a seance arranged by Korekiyo Shinguji, who was attempting to communicate with the recently murdered Angie's spirit.\
205	'''You'd Expect:''' Since the seance was his idea and he's the one who set it up, for Korekiyo to immediately become the prime suspect for Tenko's murder and for the class to start drilling him for answers.\
206	'''Instead:''' The class only suspects him after almost every other possibility has been explored, even briefly entertaining the notion that Himiko killed Tenko or that Tenko herself committed suicide during the seance.
207	** At one point during the trial, while discussing Tenko's murder, Maki brings up the possibility that Tenko killed herself during the seance.\
208	'''You'd Expect:''' Shuichi would point out that it was simply not possible for Tenko to have committed suicide because the sickle that she supposedly used to kill herself was not found anywhere near her body or directly beneath her position under the floorboards. Instead, the sickle was found several feet away from the bloodstain under the floorboard that Tenko was on top of. Since both Shuichi and Maki were the only ones who actually investigated the area under the floorboards, they should have known about this discrepancy.\
209	'''Instead:''' Shuichi outright lies to everyone that instead of killing herself willingly, Tenko died instantly (something that the Monokuma file never mentioned). If Maki hadn't gone along with Shuichi's lie and recanted her suicide theory, things would have gotten bad pretty quickly.
210	* In Chapter 4:
211	** When Miu plans her murder attempt, she wants it to take place in a virtual world, but also wants to have the other students believe that her target was killed in the real world by being poisoned.\
212	'''You'd Expect:''' Miu would select a poison that plausibly could have killed her victim without leaving any evidence.\
213	'''Instead:''' She leaves behind a poison that causes the victim's eyes to become bloodshot.\
214	'''As a Result:''' This makes it impossible for the other students to believe the murder took place in the real world, and that the cause of death was poison.
215	** The group is about to enter the virtual world, having been told by Miu about which ports they need to plug the memory and consciousness cords into on their VR helmets. She also mentions that she doesn't know what would happen if the cords are mixed up, but gives off the impression that a serious error could happen as a result of it.\
216	'''You'd Expect:''' Someone to think to check everyone's helmets before they all log in. Even if it seems too simple to mess up, when the risk of doing so is that unknown, you can't be too safe. This is especially true in the case of Gonta, who's hapless with technology and could easily make such a mistake.\
217	'''Instead:''' No one thinks to do this, and they all enter the virtual world immediately after setting up their own helmets.\
218	'''As a Result:''' Gonta ends up mixing up the cords due to [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Himiko reminding herself that her right hand is the one she uses to hold the chopsticks]] (Gonta is left-handed), causing him to lose all memories of his time in the virtual world the moment he leaves, including his murder of Miu. Had the basic precaution measures been taken, the whole trial could have been much shorter.
219	* In Chapter 5:
220	** The entire group hit a DespairEventHorizon when Kokichi reveals the state of the outside world and claims to be the mastermind, TheMole and {{Leader}} of a doomsday cult who infiltrated a spaceship meant to take the students to safety and brought it back to earth to drive them to despair. However, Maki uses a Flashback Light she found to help the students remember[[note]] in reality, it's a forged memory[[/note]] that they're students from Hope's Peak and deduce that Kokichi must be a Remnant of Despair, refilling with the will to fight back. When Maki quickly suggests killing Kokichi, Shuichi shoots this down, saying it'd be better to capture him.\
221	'''You'd Expect:''' Maki to just go along with the other's plan. While Kokichi is (allegedly) the Mastermind and killing him would (allegedly) end the Killing Game for good, there is still the matter of finding a way to survive[[note]] i.e. how to operate the space colony, go back into deepfreeze, etc.[[/note]], which Kokichi, (allegedly) being the Mastermind and knowing that the outside world was a mess all along, being the only possible person who could provide such information.\
222	'''Instead:''' She decides that MurderIsTheBestSolution and plans to kill Kokichi.\
223	'''As a Result:''' Her attempt is foiled by Kaito [[TakingTheBullet Taking the Crossbow Bolt]], leading to a class trial.\
224	'''Even Worse:''' Despite claiming that she planned to interrogate him before finishing him off, she coats the bolts of her crossbow in ''[[YouAreAlreadyDead poison]]'' and doesn't bring the antidote with her, which creates the risk of him dying before he could actually reveal anything useful even if Kaito didn't intervene.
225	** Kaito crushes Kokichi in a hydraulic press in an attempt to make a murder case so unsolvable that Monokuma doesn't know the culprit, and end the killing game. Around the end, Shuichi figures out the truth behind Kaito's murder case.\
226	'''You'd Expect:''' For him or Maki Harukawa to point out the latter shot Kokichi with a poisonous arrow, and state that there's no way to tell whether Kokichi died from the poison before Kaito crushed him with the hydraulic press or not.\
227	'''Instead:''' Right after Shuichi decides to go along with their plan and starts lying for the sake of it, Kaito fully confesses to being the culprit while neither of them point out the possibility of the poison killing Kokichi.\
228	'''As a Result:''' Kaito gets executed, and the killing game continues.
229	** When Kaito is ready to crush him, Kokichi still has two of Miu's inventions: an [[{{EMP}} Electrobomb that disables all electronics in a 50 yard radius for two hours]], and a remote to control the Exisals.\
230	'''You'd Expect:''' That Kaito would take them. They never know when either of them could be useful.\
231	'''Instead:''' Both Kaito and the normally-CrazyPrepared Kokichi seemingly forget about them, and they get crushed by the hydraulic press along with Kokichi. Granted, they were in a hurry due to Kokichi's imminent death from Maki's poisoned arrow, and Kaito would have died anyway from his illness, but that doesn't make their actions any less idiotic.\
232	'''As a Result:''' After Kaito is voted as Kokichi's killer and Monokuma brings the Monokubs BackFromTheDead to pilot the Exisals again, the students are powerless to prevent the execution.
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234
235	!!Spin-offs:
236
237	[[folder:''Danganronpa Zero'']]
238	* As a critical part of the backstory, Junko causes the deaths of all but two members of the Student Council. In the aftermath, the Academy brings in Yasuke Matsuda (Junko's boyfriend) to interrogate her via mind scan.\
239	'''You'd Expect:''' The Academy would perform hard inspection on the interrogation and be extremely cautious about trusting Matsuda, whose relationship to Junko would be easily deducible with a background check.\
240	'''Instead:''' The Academy lets Junko go after a single interrogation.\
241	'''As a Result''': Junko's plan proceeds without a hitch, resulting in the Tragedy.
242	[[/folder]]
243
244	[[folder:''Danganronpa Another Episode: Ultra Despair Girls'']]
245	* A Future Foundation team (which includes Byakuya Togami) is sent to retrieve Komaru Naegi from Towa City, which is overrun with killer Monokumas. Komaru finds them and now, she has some questions for them.\
246	'''You'd Expect:''' The Foundation team to get her aboard their helicopter immediately and take-off. They can answer all the questions she has in the air. That ought to be the safest, sanest option when killer robot bears roam the city.\
247	'''Instead:''' The Foundation team proceeds to have their InfoDump on the ground. By the time Komaru points out that they're out in the open, it's too late.\
248	'''As a Result:''' Monokumas surround and slaughter the Foundation team before taking Byakuya prisoner. A Foundation member shoves Komaru aboard the helicopter, but it's been taken over by a Monokuma, who proceeds to take Komaru to its masters, the (ironically-named) [[EnfantTerrible Warriors of Hope]].
249	* Midway through the game, the Warriors of Hope find [[AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs the Adult Resistance's base and attack]]. Komaru and Toko defeat the invading Monokumas, but they're imprisoned as spies by Resistance leader [[{{Jerkass}} Haiji Towa]]. Later, Kotoko busts out and kidnaps Komaru and Toko escapes by switching to [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Genocide Jack]].\
250	'''You'd Expect:''' Haiji would immediately either relocate the Resistance to a new base or seal up any breaches left by the invaders to prevent further attacks.\
251	'''Instead:''' He does neither. When Toko and Komaru return to the base, it's in the middle of another Monokuma attack.\
252	'''As a Result:''' Shirokuma has to perform a HeroicSacrifice to secure the base a second time.
253	* Near the end, Haiji, Komaru and Toko find the Resistance's ultimate weapon, the [[HumongousMecha Big Bang Monokuma]]. They're discovered by [[TheDragon Nagisa]], who's suffering from a mental breakdown thanks to [[BigBad Monaca]] and has a new death machine with him.\
254	'''You'd Expect:''' Any of them to look at Nagisa's EmptyEyes, back at the death machine, back to Nagisa, realize he's lost it and attempt to calm him down.\
255	'''Instead:''' Haiji [[BullyingADragon angrily shouts at him]]. This helps prompt Nagisa to attack Haiji and the others, leading to a boss fight with Komaru in which he's apparently killed. It's only when Nagisa starts shooting does Haiji consider the possibility that he's lost it.
256	[[/folder]]

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