| 1 | For the main article, go [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros here]]. |
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| 3 | For the main WMG page, go [[WMG/SuperSmashBros here]]. |
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| 6 | [[foldercontrol]] |
| 7 | |
| 8 | [[WMG: Confirmed guesses]] |
| 9 | * '''Rosalina''' |
| 10 | * '''Bowser Jr.''' |
| 11 | * '''Mewtwo''' |
| 12 | * '''Charizard as a solo character''' (No longer the case as of ''Ultimate'') |
| 13 | * '''Palutena''' |
| 14 | * '''Dark Pit''' |
| 15 | * '''Kirby's Final Smash''' |
| 16 | * '''Lucina''' |
| 17 | * '''Robin (both genders + magic/sword hybrid)''' |
| 18 | * '''Alph as an alternate skin''' |
| 19 | * '''Little Mac''' |
| 20 | * '''Mii as custom characters and "Fighting Mii Team"''' [[IKnewIt (the exact name!)]] |
| 21 | * '''Shulk (with buff/nerf mechanic)''' |
| 22 | * '''''Animal Crossing'' character''' (Villager and Isabelle) |
| 23 | * '''Character popular in the West and obscure in Japan''' (Little Mac) |
| 24 | * '''[=DLCs=]''' (Mewtwo, Lucas, Ryu) |
| 25 | * '''''Final Fantasy'' character''' (Cloud Strife) |
| 26 | * '''Bayonetta''' |
| 27 | * '''Inkling''' |
| 28 | * '''Princess Daisy''' |
| 29 | * '''Ridley''' |
| 30 | * '''Simon Belmont''' |
| 31 | * '''Richter Belmont''' |
| 32 | * '''Chrom''' |
| 33 | * '''Dark Samus''' |
| 34 | * '''King K. Rool''' |
| 35 | * '''Ash-Greninja as Greninja's Final Smash''' |
| 36 | * '''Ken''' |
| 37 | * '''Incineroar''' |
| 38 | * '''Banjo-Kazooie''' |
| 39 | * '''Byleth''' |
| 40 | * '''Sephiroth''' |
| 41 | * '''Pyra and Mythra''' |
| 42 | * '''Sora''' |
| 43 | |
| 44 | [[folder:Veterans]] |
| 45 | |
| 46 | [[WMG: Yoshi will be confirmed for [=SSB4=] when his new game comes out]] |
| 47 | ''Yoshi's New Island'' slated for American and European release March 14, 2014. |
| 48 | * Jossed, a stage based on Tomodachi Collection was confirmed instead. He was confirmed during the April 8 Smash Bros. Direct instead. |
| 49 | |
| 50 | [[WMG: Meta Knight will return for [=SSB4=], but nerfed]] |
| 51 | He's too iconic for both his home series and the SSBB tournament scene to leave out, especially since King Dedede has been confirmed at time of posting. Every Smash Bros sequel has had an insanely useful competitive character return in a nerfed form from the previous game: in ''Melee'' it was Pikachu, and in ''Brawl'' it was Captain Falcon. Meta Knight will now hover around the B/C tiers rather than SS. |
| 52 | |
| 53 | [[WMG: Mewtwo will return as an alternate skin for either Greninja or Lucario]] |
| 54 | The Pokemon trailer initially made it look like Mewtwo was coming back, only for it to be revealed to be Greninja instead. What if that was subtle foreshadowing to the possibility of an alternate skin for Greninja? And if Greninja's water attacks don't make sense for Mewtwo, putting the skin over Lucario, the character that has a similar moveset, would make sense. Plus, both Lucario and Mewtwo have Mega-Evolutions, which would integrate well as a gameplay mechanic. |
| 55 | * [[spoiler: Jossed; neither of the two will have Mewtwo as an alternate costume. Instead, he's making it back in as his own character once again]]. |
| 56 | |
| 57 | [[WMG: Unless he is a hidden character, Wario will be revealed at a later date.]] |
| 58 | Similar to Yoshi, Wario may have new changes in his movement and animations, which Sakurai would want to show at a later date. |
| 59 | * [[spoiler: Wario is in fact an unlockable character; that said, this is still confirmed considering Sakurai has said he plans on revealing secret information after the 3DS version is released internationally]]. |
| 60 | |
| 61 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/MetalGear Solid Snake]] ''will'' return in [=SSB4=], and will be the last character revealed.]] |
| 62 | |
| 63 | Admittedly, not a NEW character, but oh well. He will still get a trailer (since Sonic, the other returning third party character, got one) in which he will emerge from a box in the middle of a match and say what else but [[CatchPhrase "Kept ya waiting, huh?"]] |
| 64 | |
| 65 | '''Solid Snake sneaks in!''' |
| 66 | |
| 67 | Even better: the box could be an entirely ordinary wooden crate item (with no bottom). Even after reading this, there would be no way of predicting him until the second that he emerges from it, since gameplay videos would randomly have those crates anyway. |
| 68 | |
| 69 | Some of his costume forms could involve Old Snake from ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots'' as well as Punished "Venom" Snake from ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVGroundZeroes''. |
| 70 | * '''Jossed''', though he did eventually return in ''Ultimate'', like every other character in the series up to that point. |
| 71 | |
| 72 | [[WMG: Kirby will have a new Final Smash]] |
| 73 | Kirby's Final Smash in the next game will be [[VideoGame/KirbysReturnToDreamland the Ultra Sword.]] |
| 74 | * As of April 8, 2014, this is confirmed. |
| 75 | |
| 76 | [[WMG: The Ice Climbers will be available as amiibos.]] |
| 77 | The reason they weren't included was that the 3DS couldn't function with them. However, the New 3DS has the potential. And, the New 3DS is amiibo compatible. |
| 78 | * As awesome as it sounds, it seems unlikely because the character would still be unavailable for all the regular 3DS players and thus it would be unfair for them, which is against Nintendo's policy and also why they weren't included in the first place. On the other hand, ''SOLO'' Ice Climbers would totally work (4 Popo costumes and 4 Nana costumes, Ă la Wii Fit Trainer). |
| 79 | ** With the Ice Climbers finally returning in ''Ultimate'', an amiibo of them is now most likely to happen. |
| 80 | |
| 81 | [[WMG: The Pokemon Trainer will return next game.]] |
| 82 | But, instead of being Red, they will have each of the main characters Ă la Bowser Jr. |
| 83 | * Adding on to this, the costumes in the E3 Demo are placeholders. Notice how the only two used on the website are he default Red and Leaf. |
| 84 | * Confirmed in that Pokemon Trainer returned, although the only character skins are of the male and female trainers from FireRed and LeafGreen. |
| 85 | |
| 86 | [[WMG: Wolf will be a DLC character.]] |
| 87 | Mother being dead didn't stop Lucas from returning as DLC, and Wolf has a mostly unique moveset. There's also a new Star Fox coming out. |
| 88 | * Jossed. Wolf is in the base game in ''Ultimate''. |
| 89 | |
| 90 | [[WMG: If Greninja returns in the next game, his Final Smash will be changed to [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} Ash]]-[[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon Greninja.]]]] |
| 91 | Ash-Greninja [[CanonImmigrant made its way into]] ''[[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon Pokémon Sun and Moon]]'', so I can see it happening. |
| 92 | * Confirmed. |
| 93 | |
| 94 | [[WMG: Link will have his ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'' outfit in the next game.]] |
| 95 | His silhouette in the new trailer seems to not have a hat, something that he lacked in his default outfit in ''[=BotW=]'', too. |
| 96 | * Confirmed. |
| 97 | |
| 98 | [[WMG: The Ice Climbers will be in the Switch Game.]] |
| 99 | The only reason they were not in the Wii U/3DS game was because it caused lag on the 3DS. Presumably, the move to the Switch will remove that issue. |
| 100 | * Confirmed. |
| 101 | |
| 102 | [[WMG:Pikachu will gain a Z-Move for a New Final Smash]] |
| 103 | It could be Gigavolt Havok, 10,000 Volt Thunderbolt, or Castropika (though the latter could just be the old final smash changed aesthetically). |
| 104 | * '''Jossed.''' Pikachu retained Volt Tackle as their Final Smash in ''Ultimate'', and given the fact that Z-Moves appear to have been largely abandoned as of Generation 8, it is unlikely it will be retconned into a Z-Move in future entries. |
| 105 | |
| 106 | [[WMG:If Greninja is a Veteran, Ash-Greninja will appear]] |
| 107 | Either as a costume, new final smash, or even just as an aesthetic change to the old Final Smash. |
| 108 | * Confirmed: Greninja's new Final Smash, Secret Ninja Attack, has it turn into Ash-Greninja. |
| 109 | |
| 110 | [[WMG: Link’s moveset will be tweaked in the Switch game to incorporate elements from ''Breath of the Wild'']] |
| 111 | Since Link has been a perpetual low-tier character, he may have some ''[=BotW=]'' flair added to his moves for the next go-around to power them up. |
| 112 | |
| 113 | * His new Forward Smash will be a Flurry Rush, lunging at an opponent and hitting four (or more) times for massive damage. This is especially likely if his Final Smash gets replaced (see below). |
| 114 | * His blocking mechanic will become Daruk’s Protection instead of the generic shield everyone else except Yoshi gets, and will be able to stand up to more punishment before breaking. It may even retain its AttackReflector properties! |
| 115 | * Revali’s Gale will become his new Up+B, at least in the air; it’ll launch him super-high and make him deploy his Paraglider to float back down to the stage. Nearby opponents may also get caught in the game and lifted upwards, allowing Link to swat them with an aerial (though they’ll probably be able to do the same to him!) |
| 116 | * Link’s Up+B on the ground will likely remain as the Spin Attack, though Urbosa’s Fury May be mixed in at full charge, causing Link to spray out haphazard lightning bolts which stun anyone they hit. Urbosa’s Fury may also become his new Final Smash, calling extremely damaging lightning bolts down onto the entire stage, and anyone who gets zapped will be stunned and left wide-open for a fully-charged Smash attack. |
| 117 | * His Down+B will be Remote Bombs, which he can detonate at will, giving him an effective stage-control trap. |
| 118 | ** Confirmed for the Remote Bombs, replacing the regular bombs Link had before! |
| 119 | |
| 120 | [[WMG: Ganondorf will use his ''VideoGame/HyruleWarriors'' appearance in ''Super Smash Bros.'' for the Switch]] |
| 121 | He doesn't appear in human form in ''Breath of the Wild'', and his BarbarianLonghair in ''Hyrule Warriors'' was quite popular. |
| 122 | * Jossed; he uses his ''Ocarina of Time'' design. |
| 123 | |
| 124 | [[WMG: If Corrin returns in Smash Switch, the female version will be the default this time]] |
| 125 | The female Corrin has been the default version for ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriors'' and ''VideoGame/FireEmblemHeroes'', and she's far more popular than Male Corrin. |
| 126 | * Jossed |
| 127 | |
| 128 | [[WMG:Ganondorf will take a note from Shiek]] |
| 129 | In which I mean he will take his appearance from unused concept art of Ganondorf from ''Breath of the Wild''. It's likely there was at least one drawing for him before he was scrapped. [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames It wouldn't be the first time Ganondorf was meant to appear but scrapped just for his beast form.]] |
| 130 | * Jossed |
| 131 | |
| 132 | [[WMG:Pichu's Final Smash will be using Flail.]] |
| 133 | All the damage it takes from using electric attack has to be put into good use. |
| 134 | * Jossed. It's Volt Tackle, but it does hurt Pichu. |
| 135 | |
| 136 | [[WMG:The Sheik in ''Ultimate'' is the Zelda from ''Breath of the Wild'']] |
| 137 | Her design takes some inspiration from the Sheikah armor in that game (minus the change in masks). |
| 138 | * There could be the possibility. I mean, does anyone find it weird that ''[=BotW=]'' Zelda does not get to represent her own game, but Sheik somehow gets to represent it instead? Given Sakurai's trollish nature, cue the EpilepticTrees. |
| 139 | |
| 140 | [[WMG:[[HistoryRepeats History will repeat itself]] with Sheik in ''Ultimate'', just like how it happened with her ''Melee'' debut]] |
| 141 | Back when Sheik was revealed in E3 2001, we were originally lead to think that we were only going to have Sheik as a playable character, until it was revealed eventually that Sheik is actually part of ''Ocarina of Time'' Zelda's [[StanceSystem extended moveset]]. With 2018's E3, we're now shown to be having Zelda and Sheik from [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkBetweenWorlds completely]] [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild different]] games (yes, I know that Sheik never appeared in ''BOTW'', and only her design was based on that game, similar to the case with ''Twilight Princess''). But later, it will be revealed that this Sheik is actually part of ''BOTW'' Zelda's extended moveset, just like what happened in Melee, and Sheik's description page will be modified accordingly to include both forms. Which means that we will not only be having two playable Zeldas (one transformable, and one non-transformable), but it will also mean that Nintendo was really [[TrollingCreator messing with us]] the whole time in regard with passing over BOTW Zelda due to her being more involved into researching. |
| 142 | * The only problem with this theory is Sheik was playable at E3 and had no transformation. Unless the down special is just temporary to fool everyone. |
| 143 | ** Custom move maybe? |
| 144 | ** Jossed. |
| 145 | |
| 146 | [[WMG: Zero Suit Samus will share special victory quotes for Ridley.]] |
| 147 | Considering his status as her ArchEnemy, it would be quite taboo for her to give him the same treatment as any other fighter, let alone the same lines. |
| 148 | * Jossed. Samus (along with Zero Suit Samus) has no special victory quotes, even against Ridley. |
| 149 | |
| 150 | [[WMG: [[Characters/FireEmblemAwakeningSecondGeneration Morgan]] will replace Chrom in Robin's Final Smash in ''Ultimate'']] |
| 151 | Because now that Chrom is playable on his own, it would be [[TheArtifact somewhat silly]] for Robin to still have him as a Pair-Up partner (especially if s/he's ''fighting'' Chrom). Morgan hasn't made an appearance in Smash at all yet, and would be the next logical choice for Robin's Pair-Up partner if you didn't want to [[CuttingOffTheBranches canonize any of Robin's potential family relations.]] The fact that s/he [[GenerationXerox fights the same way as his mom/her dad]] would make it even easier to add him/her. |
| 152 | * Jossed. Chrom still appears in Robin's Final Smash. |
| 153 | |
| 154 | [[WMG: Mega Man will get some of his ''VideoGame/MegaMan11'' moves in the next game after ''Ultimate''.]] |
| 155 | Since ''Mega Man 11'' is currently out, and ''Ultimate'' didn't change any of his moves, I hope they do this for the next Smash. My ideas are Block Dropper and Chain Blast. The use of the Double Gear system could also be a Final Smash. |
| 156 | |
| 157 | [[WMG: The final DLC character to be added to ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'' will be a Super Smash Bros. [[OriginalGeneration original character]].]] |
| 158 | After a roster full of {{Unexpected Character}}s, it would be hard to top, but the only thing the Super Smash Bros. roster is still lacking in terms of history is Super Smash Bros. itself. Therefore, the last character to be added to ''Ultimate''--that is, the ultimate ''Ultimate'' character--will be a character previously invented for the Super Smash Bros. series. Theoretical examples include Master Hand, Tabuu, Galeem/Dharkon, or an Alloy, Polygon, or Wireframe Fighter. But the most interesting one would be Master Shadow (maybe referred to as "Master Core" on the roster), who would be a DittoFighter, taking the form of a larger, more damaging version of one of the other chosen characters for that match. |
| 159 | |
| 160 | [[/folder]] |
| 161 | |
| 162 | [[folder:New Characters (Nintendo)]] |
| 163 | |
| 164 | [[WMG: First/Second Party Character Speculation...]] |
| 165 | As a quick and easy way to form WMG, please put your character guesses in this format: |
| 166 | * Game Series |
| 167 | ** '''Character Name''' |
| 168 | *** Required: Justification to be in this game over other characters... |
| 169 | *** Optional: Possible moveset, role in theoretical storyline, alternate colors, etc... |
| 170 | Commence! |
| 171 | [[quoteright:335:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/logo-mario_5544.png]] |
| 172 | * ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'', ''VideoGame/PaperMario'', ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi'', ''VideoGame/YoshisIsland'', ''VideoGame/DonkeyKong'', ''VideoGame/WarioLand'', and ''VideoGame/WarioWare''. |
| 173 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/86d405bb816c373f760b6640a2d2d91a.png |
| 174 | ** '''Rosalina''', after showing up in ''Mario Galaxy'', has gotten a huge fanbase. Since she has borderline god-like powers and a moveset that can be taken directly from the game, it's natural to see TheHighQueen of Nintendo in the game. At the very least, a PaletteSwap for Peach seems inevitable. |
| 175 | *** '''[[Characters/SuperSmashBros445To49 => Playable since ''Super Smash Bros. 4'']]''' |
| 176 | [[quoteright:109:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/6a56d5fcd3f34694af36c289a447d153.png]] |
| 177 | ** '''Paper Mario'''. So far, Mario doesn't have any moves from the ''Paper Mario'' universe, so having Paper Mario will have some fresh (non clone) moves and another 2D character. |
| 178 | *** Maybe the Final Smash could be to throw Flip blocks, so you can make your enemy dizzy. Actually, all of the fairies could be used, like Tippi, to... what can Tippi do again? Eh, just make her reveal "information" (a bunch of squiggly lines) so the enemies are harder to hit. (There wouldn't be any actual info, just the enemies are more vulnerable). |
| 179 | *** Given there are now six games in the series and little representation beyond some trophies and stickers, Paper Mario as a character would be perfect; likely using the hammer and the occasional partner, with his Final Smash involving the Crystal Stars. |
| 180 | *** Considering how the second ''Ultimate'' fighter pass was announced at around the same time as the sixth ''Paper Mario'' game was released, releasing Paper Mario as a DLC fighter would be both chronologically relevant and potentially useful cross-promotion, and Mario could be given moves and abilities from ''The Origami King'' as well. |
| 181 | *** His Up Special could also be the Spring Jump and, as similarly aforementioned, the Final Smash could be the Star Spirits/Pure Hearts as well. |
| 182 | *** '''=> Current status: Trophy and Spirit''' |
| 183 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/316e925979d9feb3ec554a3b87a016c2.png |
| 184 | ** '''Birdo''' has been around longer than many of the other characters in Smash Bros, including Yoshi and Wario. She's been a recurring boss character and friend for years, and it would be nice to have another female character as well as trans representation. |
| 185 | *** '''=> Current status: Trophy, Stage Element, and Spirit''' |
| 186 | [[quoteright:109:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/121d1969f0a092fe248bf1ca53b51713.png]] |
| 187 | ** A '''"Hell Valley Sky Tree"''', perhaps as a major antagonist. His people could have been watching the Nintendo cast for a long, long time... |
| 188 | *** '''=> Current status: none''' |
| 189 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/f07a01475613a0dc62b0dc84e39465d2.png |
| 190 | ** '''Captain Syrup''' |
| 191 | *** Wario's number-one rival that's not Mario (number-two rival?). While she hasn't been in many games, she always ends up complementing Wario in many ways, making her a nice choice if the Wario series only gets one more character. |
| 192 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit''' |
| 193 | [[quoteright:109:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/aabc7e754af2e408b1f525c0b9919f69.png]] |
| 194 | ** '''9-Volt''' |
| 195 | *** For being a Nintendo fanatic, his moves could be based off of Nintendo's merchandise (including their non-video game products) and his microgames. |
| 196 | *** 9-Volt could play a major part in the story. If he crosses Mario or Luigi or both, (This gamer wants it Nintendo if you're reading this) it could lead to interesting dialogue and could help with escape routes with the shortcuts he knows, only amazing the Mario Bros., and a Heartwarming moment could be in order if he, for example, sees an incoming projectile (like the dark gun which turns people into statues), he could do a TakingTheBullet, only to be healed, Mario or Luigi could sign his helmet. It seems pretty incredible for 9-Volt to be in the game. |
| 197 | *** Why not? He isn't forgotten, as shown as his stickers in the game, and with the Kat and Ana assist trophy, it was proof that ''VideoGame/WarioWare'' isn't forgotten. And who is the most liked ''[=WarioWare=]'' character minus Wario? 9-Volt. Nintendo, realizing he is the otaku of their franchise, will put him in to attract other gamers to the ''[=WarioWare=]'' franchise, causing them to play 9-volt's games, and realizing how awesome old school games were by searching 9-Volt micro-games, they will revive the old school genre, causing a heroic GambitRoulette for Nintendo, making them do sequels to old school games, and eventually, take over the gaming market even '''''MORE!''''' |
| 198 | *** What would be awesome is if all of his attacks were based on Nintendo products. He'd have the zapper, the Wii Nunchuck, and even...the Power Glove. |
| 199 | *** [[Film/TheWizard I love the Power Glove...]] More seriously though, for a more detailed description on it, check out this [[http://marioking9834.deviantart.com/art/Newcomer-9-volt-211846851 DA pic]]. (NO, this doesn't mean he's confirmed yet!) |
| 200 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit''' |
| 201 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/0a6ea7630d11eca26586ba076d768021.png |
| 202 | ** '''Mona''' |
| 203 | *** For being the cover girl of the series after Wario himself, she could have many moves inspired from their mini games. |
| 204 | *** A possible movelist could be: |
| 205 | *** B: Mona rocks on her guitar, damaging anybody nearby. |
| 206 | *** </>+B: Mona throws a pizza box, her standard projectile. |
| 207 | *** ^+B: Mona activates a jetpack for a second, similar to Pit's flying, but it doesn't last as long. |
| 208 | *** v+B: Mona does an instant slide kick, going at a mid-range distance. |
| 209 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit''' |
| 210 | [[quoteright:109:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/620eb6892a063dbd518ade22e14a10d6.png]] |
| 211 | ** '''Kat and Ana''' |
| 212 | *** Already assist trophies in ''Brawl'', they seem as likely to get in as anything ''[=WarioWare=]''. They are not accurate {{ninja}}s but still closer to proper ninjas than Sheik, so that could be some added appeal [[PiratesVersusNinjas if Syrup makes it in]]. Against them is that Smash has a surplus of sword users and there are still swordsmen from Nintendo games not represented in the series, but they would only need to use Katanas for a few moves. |
| 213 | *** '''=> Current status: Assist Trophy and Spirit''' |
| 214 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/123d3a1670b40c7b89ab1983d7636a2b.png |
| 215 | ** '''Ashley''' |
| 216 | *** Now that she's become a fully playable character in ''Game & Wario'', she would make a great addition to the roster. |
| 217 | *** '''=> Current status: Assist Trophy and DLC Mii Costume''' |
| 218 | [[quoteright:109:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/7fe9741fc9dfd6d1dca9fbc122274c9f.png]] |
| 219 | ** '''Young Cricket''' |
| 220 | *** He is a master of [[Platform/{{Wii}} We-Ken]], a student of [[Platform/{{Wii U}} We-Yu-Ken]] and kung-fu. |
| 221 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit''' |
| 222 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/7b0ae890245ed93a9aa48dcbd1cdd692.png |
| 223 | ** '''Geno''' |
| 224 | *** While he would have copyright issues around him, Geno was one of the most requested characters for ''Brawl''. He has a lot of interesting attacks, so that helps. |
| 225 | *** Geno is trademarked under Square-Enix, so shouldn't this be put in "Other Third Party"? |
| 226 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit''' |
| 227 | [[quoteright:109:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/924b5cb5ba88bf3084b0847692a7e932.png]] |
| 228 | ** '''Elder Princess Shroob''' |
| 229 | *** Just for being a big ugly MightyGlacier [[UnexpectedCharacter most people would not expect]]. Fawful has been in more games and is more likely to get in, but Shroob was a final boss, could have interesting moves, and there are no playable fungi yet. |
| 230 | *** '''=> Current status: none''' |
| 231 | ** '''Fawful''' |
| 232 | *** A popular character, a recurring villain, and fairly iconic within the ''Mario and Luigi'' series, although he's not appeared in a while. Fawful could come with his ray gun, explosive projectiles and limited flight thanks to his vacuum helmet, and turn into the Dark Star Core for his Final Smash. |
| 233 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ec1390f5433cccf41f1ed13c2e049729.png |
| 234 | ** '''Dixie Kong''' |
| 235 | *** If people want another female character, Dixie seems like a good enough choice, and she was a protagonist of two ''Donkey Kong'' games. |
| 236 | *** Dixie Kong is probably a good bet. Her name shows up in unused data for Brawl, and she's playable in ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountryTropicalFreeze''. |
| 237 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit''' |
| 238 | [[quoteright:109:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/b29fda275ef1bec64e29f6a8cca9824d.png]] |
| 239 | ** '''King K. Rool''', or another ''Donkey Kong'' Boss |
| 240 | *** King K. Rool is the boss who shows up the most. |
| 241 | *** I'd prefer King K. Rool, on the grounds that ''Mario'', ''Zelda'' and ''Kirby'' all have the series' main antagonists as playable characters. He's got potential for an interesting moveset since his initial appearance (throwing his crown, stomp attack), his blunderbuss from [=DKC2=] could be put to interesting uses, and his Final Smash could be dropping cannonballs all over the stage like he did in the [[VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry1 first ''Donkey Kong Country'']]. A ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountryReturns'' sequel featuring Kremlings would probably ensure his position in the next ''Smash Bros.'' |
| 242 | *** You didn't mention his stint as Baron K. Roolensten, from which he could at least derive a solid Up+B move. |
| 243 | *** '''=> Current status: CONFIRMED!''' |
| 244 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/6912bdaf8cb08dc72243a2beae8bad22.png |
| 245 | ** '''Cranky Kong''' |
| 246 | *** Has more appearances in Donkey Kong than anyone except Donkey and Diddy. His attacks could consist of throwing 8-bit items from the original arcade game. |
| 247 | *** His playability status in the new Donkey Kong Country game may influence this somewhat. |
| 248 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit and stage cameo (Jungle Japes)''' |
| 249 | [[quoteright:109:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/7daa33078dc6cfa4e03d644a274e4fce.png]] |
| 250 | ** '''Chunky Kong''' would be sweet. |
| 251 | *** Primate Punch could be his main B move, functioning like a slightly slower but stronger fully-charged Windup Punch. Side B could be Pineapple Launcher, a long-range projectile with slow rate of fire and low knockback, down B could be Simian Slam, a classic ground pound, and up B could be Rolling Rocket, a vertically oriented Spinning Kong recovery move. Hunky Chunky would be his Giga Bowser style transformation Final Smash, making him huge and souping up his moves. |
| 252 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit''' |
| 253 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/e64e6cc41ed06dda59b9bf80ff928db2.png |
| 254 | ** '''Donkey Kong JR.''' |
| 255 | *** While JR. has basically replaced by Diddy Kong in his series, he could be added as a throwback character, like Duck Hunt. |
| 256 | *** '''Current status: Spirit''' |
| 257 | ** '''Baby Mario and Luigi''' |
| 258 | *** They (or at least Baby Mario) have been in several multiplayer Mario games already, so why not? |
| 259 | *** They would operate in a manner similar to the Ice Climbers, only with a completely different moveset so as not to be labeled as clones. |
| 260 | *** Alternatively, the Mario Bros. based of ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime''. There are plenty of moves that could work. Their B could be the hammer, down-B could be the drill, up-B could be the super spin (or whatever its name was) side-B could be... Koopa Shell, perhaps? Hell, their Final Smash could be one of the special moves. There are plenty that would work quite well. Mighty Meteor, Falling Star, Magic Window, Super Bouncer, Snack Basket, Jump Helmet, they would all work really well. |
| 261 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit''' |
| 262 | [[quoteright:109:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/53cde80ad15b3b70eb0935a1c11f93ae.png]] |
| 263 | ** '''Daisy''' |
| 264 | *** She has appeared in practically every Mario spin-off since ''VideoGame/MarioTennis'' and one main game. She is somewhat more popular than Waluigi. |
| 265 | *** To avoid being a clone of Peach, her costumes and movesets would instead be based on the various Mario Sports games -- her recovery move could be from the ''VideoGame/MarioStrikers'' series, being a bicycle kick in the same vein as the [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX Jecht Shot]] (she'd also wear her Strikers outfit by default, with the other outfits being PaletteSwaps); her standard B attack would be based off of ''Videogame/MarioGolf'', having her charge up a golf club to swing; her B-down attack would be based off of Mario Hoops, being a slam dunk that would also act as a counter; and her final smash would be based on ''VideoGame/MarioKart'', having her launch a number of Spiny Shells which would go after different players - the less damage a player had (or in a stock match, the more lives a player had), the more shells that would go after said player. |
| 266 | *** '''=> Current status: CONFIRMED!''' |
| 267 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/5312f85aae461465c65c85a7673201bc.png |
| 268 | ** '''Bowser Jr.''' |
| 269 | *** Call him a [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] if you wish, but there's no denying that Bowser Jr. has been a major shaping force in the ''Mario'' series ever since his debut. He was all but the main antagonist in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine'' and [[VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii both]] ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' titles, and played an important role as Bowser's [[TheDragon second-in-command]] in the ''[[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy Galaxy]]'' [[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2 titles]]. Perhaps more importantly, the use of his magical paintbrush from ''Sunshine'' could make Bowser Jr. into a very unique and entertaining character to play as. |
| 270 | *** '''[[Characters/SuperSmashBros456To59 => Playable since ''Super Smash Bros. 4'']]''' |
| 271 | [[quoteright:109:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/c885712504c1587fd42858e02fd91e39.png]] |
| 272 | ** '''Waluigi''' |
| 273 | *** Who could forget him? He has a higher chance than many other Mario characters. |
| 274 | *** Maybe he isn't as developed as the other Mario characters, but contrary to the arguments that he has "nothing to stand for", there is one thing he represents more than anyone else: The ''VideoGame/MarioTennis'' games. He made his official public debut in the original ''Mario Tennis'' (2000), becoming a playable choice ever since with plenty of unique sports-based skills and attacks to boot. Heck, even his assist trophy wields a tennis racket. |
| 275 | *** '''=> Current status: Assist Trophy and PaletteSwap for Mario and Luigi''' |
| 276 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/5847492db32d6eeeea9f972cc883c6d8.png |
| 277 | ** '''Toad''' |
| 278 | *** Since he has been playable in the ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBros'' games and the upcoming ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'', he could work as a full-fledged playable character. His default color scheme will of course be the red spots and blue vest, and his alternate colors will be all red, all blue, green, yellow, and purple. Of course, Peach's standard special move will have to be changed in order for Toad to be a valid player (though Toad himself could still use the spores attack as a MythologyGag). |
| 279 | *** The recent ''VideoGame/CaptainToadTreasureTracker'' has fleshed out the character a lot. He could use his pickaxe, blind his enemies with his headlight and of course throw turnips like Peach. Toadette could be a genderswap alternate skin, Ă la Robin and WFT. Also I don't know if he should have a crappy jump or remove his backpack and have a regular jump. |
| 280 | *** '''=> Current status: Trophy, Peach's neutral-B, and DLC Mii Costume''' |
| 281 | ** '''Kamek''' |
| 282 | *** He could serve as an antagonist from the ''Yoshi'' universe which is underrepresented (to be honest, who else from ''Yoshi'' could fit as a fighter? [[BadassAdorable Poochy]]? [[CreepyCrows Raphael]]?? ''[[WarElephants Pak E. Derm]]??!''). He could use his wand to cast several status effects on his opponents (flower, sleep, buried, ...), ride his broom for his up-B and send [[http://www.mariowiki.com/Toady Magikoopa Toadies]] to catch and immobilize the other players or as a "HumanShield". For his Final Smash, he could do his favorite trick and [[ScaledUp turn himself giant]] while [[ShrinkRay shrinking down]] the other players. |
| 283 | *** '''=> Current status: Stage hazard and Spirit''' |
| 284 | ** '''Toadette''' |
| 285 | *** She has been a rising star recently with appearances in ''Super Mario Maker 2'' and ''Super Mario Odyssey'', even having a playable appearance in a couple of games. Plus they have the benefit of another female character in the Super Mario franchise. She can use an ice ball and the propeller suit to represent the ''New Super Mario U Deluxe'' and the pickaxe for ''Captain Toad''. Her Final Smash can have her summon Wingo to reference her being kidnap by them. Since she technically doesn't have her original outfit as a spirit but in her Toad Brigade outfit, I don't think spirits would be an issue. |
| 286 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit (in her Captain Toadette outfit)''' |
| 287 | [[quoteright:335:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/logo-pokemon_3664.png]] |
| 288 | * Franchise/{{Pokemon}} |
| 289 | ** '''Zoroark''' |
| 290 | *** Basically the fifth-gen counterpart of Lucario, Game Freak has been heavily promoting him/her. (S)he was even the first Black and White Pokémon to be revealed. |
| 291 | *** Melee had Mewtwo as a playable character, the only movie featured Pokemon that was humanoid enough to be included. Brawl comes around, Lucario's in, he was the last humanoid Pokemon character to be featured in a movie at that point (Lugia, Entei, Latios and Latias, and Jirachi are all too far from humanoid and Deoxys was before Lucario). Zoroark is the current Pokemon in this role, it's humanoid enough to fit into the game. Unless, before hand, another one replaces it, I see it being a playable character in the next game, or at least a Poké Ball summon. If all three are playable, (Mewtwo, Lucario, and Zoroark) it would probably rank right up there on the FridgeBrilliance o-meter. Remember all of that speculation about a Dark/Psychic/Fighting starter trio? And, what with the "super effective" bonus knockback for Charizard, Ivysaur, and Squirtle already in play (to water, fire, and grass damage, respectively (and obviously)) it's not hard to think that they would form an interesting mechanic for team play/etc. |
| 292 | *** '''=> Current status: Poké Ball''' |
| 293 | ** '''Scizor''' |
| 294 | *** It's not one of the original 151, who dominate the player character spots. Scizor is the most popular Pokémon in competitive battles. Its disproportional wings mean it cannot fly very far, but it can shoot ahead like a bullet. Scizor would fit in ''Super Smash Bros.'' very well. |
| 295 | *** [[SarcasmMode Yes, they sure set Scizor up to be a new mascot for the series]]. |
| 296 | *** Uh, how does that relate to him being popular with the fanbase? In fact, how does the mascot thing relate to anything? EnsembleDarkhorses exist for a reason... |
| 297 | *** However, since N has a Scizor on his Autumn team in ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2'', the idea is a bit less [[{{Pun}} Farfetch'd]] if we get N as a playable Pokémon Trainer type character (see below). |
| 298 | *** '''=> Current status: Poké Ball''' |
| 299 | ** '''Victini''' |
| 300 | *** An alternative to Zoroark in terms of a Fifth Generation representative. Victini is popular, has a unique combination that could be put to creative use, and is roughly equal to Zoroark in terms of promotion. |
| 301 | *** '''=> Current status: Poké Ball''' |
| 302 | ** '''Hilbert''' or '''Hilda''', A.k.a. The Pokémon Trainers from [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Black and White]]. |
| 303 | *** I just get a feeling that one of the two will replace Pokémon Trainer Red, As for the Pokémon: '''Oshawott''', '''Servine''', and '''Emboar'''. |
| 304 | *** Or a different lineup of the three Unova starters in different stages. |
| 305 | *** Bonus points if Hilbert [[AvertedTrope averts]] CrossdressingVoices! |
| 306 | *** The most likely option is that Pokémon Trainer (Red) will return, but for gender/generation balance we'd get Hilda or '''[[VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2 Rosa]]''' as "Pokémon Trainer 2", "Female Trainer" or "Unova Trainer". |
| 307 | *** Alternatively, my guess is Tepig, Dewott, and Serperior. |
| 308 | *** '''=> Current status: Poké Ball for Oshawott only''' |
| 309 | ** '''Reshiram''' and '''Zekrom''' |
| 310 | *** Both of them would have to be scaled down somewhat (though it isn't as bad as one might think, seeing as they're only about 9-10 feet tall rather than 11-20 like most other legendaries). Seeing the '''''huge''''' gap in popularity between Reshiram/Zekrom and other 5th gen candidates like Zoroark and Victini, however[[note]]and the equally huge marketing push that Zekrom's getting; see ''Manga/PokemonReBurst'' and ''VideoGame/NobunagasAmbition''[[/note]], this could be a possibility. Maybe one dragon could be exclusive to the 3DS version and the other one exclusive to the Wii U version. |
| 311 | *** '''=> Current status: Trophies and background characters.''' |
| 312 | ** '''Tyranitar''' |
| 313 | *** Another Pokémon not from the original 151 who has remained a favorite choice since its introduction. Besides DishingOutDirt, it is another big and strong glacier type and could use shadow moves from the Orre games. |
| 314 | *** Shadow moves? You may have a point; Shadow Tyranitar was Evice's ace in the hole, sort of (well, actually, his whole team was a major pain, with Slaking, Scizor, and Slowking being the standouts), and it was the most powerful Shadow Pokémon in Pokémon Colosseum. |
| 315 | *** '''=> Current status: none''' |
| 316 | ** '''Metagross''' |
| 317 | *** For many of the same reasons as Tyranitar, being consistently popular since its introduction, being a big strong glacier, having an interesting variety of moves, and not being from the first installment. Another quadruped wouldn't hurt either, it would work because it is psychic like Mewtwo. |
| 318 | *** '''=> Current status: Poké Ball''' |
| 319 | ** '''Primal Dialga''', but only as a boss in Story Mode, though. |
| 320 | *** The problem is, its battle music is owned by Chunsoft. The character itself, however, is not. |
| 321 | ** '''Corsola''' |
| 322 | *** As non-notable as Corsola is, it could be a very quirky and effective StoneWall. Especially as a semi-clone of Jigglypuff, of all things. It could use Spikes to lay traps around the stage, Hypnosis as a quick, decent-ranged sleep-inducing burst, Rest to actually regain health rather than attack, and a bouncy, unpredictable Rollout as its specials. Its basic combo would be Bubble, and its Smash attacks would include Rock Blast (emitting rocks that roll around the ground), Spike Cannon (launching the spikes on its back as an anti-air move), and Mud Slap (which would stun foes in a similar fashion to Mewtwo's Disable). Its Final Smash would either be Surf (summoning a tidal wave functionally equivalent to the lava wave on Norfair) or [=AncientPower=] (surrounding itself with numerous orbiting rocks and then floating around the stage in a similar fashion to Pikachu's Volt Tackle, attempting to trap opponents inside to be bounced around pinball-style for massive damage). |
| 323 | *** '''=> Current status: none''' |
| 324 | ** '''Ditto''' |
| 325 | *** Ditto starts off pretty [[JokeCharacter useless]], but after being attacked, it takes the form of whoever attacks it. It would be a literal DittoFighter. |
| 326 | *** '''=> Current status: Confirmed as a Poké Ball Pokémon''' (Trophy and Random icon in tournament mode in ''Melee'')[[note]]It was planned as a Poké Ball in ''Melee'' but unfinished and removed[[/note]] |
| 327 | ** '''Blaziken''' |
| 328 | *** There was a lack of third-generation representation in ''Brawl'', and with it being a fighting-type Pokémon, there are plenty of moves it can learn. It could also be a partial clone of Capt. Falcon with moves like Sky Uppercut, Blaze Kick, and Fire Punch. |
| 329 | *** '''=> Current status: Trophy and background character''' (It did get into ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament'' though.) |
| 330 | ** '''Meloetta''' |
| 331 | *** While it could be seen as a clone of Zelda, Meloetta could have a vastly different playing style. Its Pirouette Forme could be a smaller, harder-hitting Sheik, while its Aria Forme could focus more on defense/evasion with moves like telekinesis and teleport. |
| 332 | *** '''=> Current status: Poké Ball''' |
| 333 | ** '''Eevee''' |
| 334 | *** Although its moveset would be hard to figure out, Eevee is still a rather notable pokémon that should at least get an assist trophy. |
| 335 | *** Alternatively, it becomes a JokeCharacter, but as it's attacked, it begins to gain power. At the apex, the attribute it's attacked with causes it to evolve into the type that it corresponds to. So for instance: |
| 336 | ---> '''Attacked with water:''' Vaporeon\ |
| 337 | '''Moves:'''\ |
| 338 | '''Standard:''' Aqua Tail (Spins around to attack from all sides)\ |
| 339 | '''Side+B:''' Aurora Beam (Immobilizes enemies for a moment)\ |
| 340 | '''Up+B:''' Waterfall (Identical to Squirtle)\ |
| 341 | '''Down+B:''' Acid Armor (Similar to Lucario's Detect) |
| 342 | |
| 343 | ---> '''Attacked with electricity:''' Jolteon\ |
| 344 | '''Moves:'''\ |
| 345 | '''Standard:''' Discharge (Mildy damaging electricity surrounds Jolteon, causes more damage the closer an enemy is to Jolteon)\ |
| 346 | '''Side+B:''' Pin Missile (A quick firing attack that can be charged to shoot more projectiles)\ |
| 347 | '''Up+B:''' Agility (Similar to Lucario's ExtremeSpeed, but does a bit of damage when and enemy touches Jolteon)\ |
| 348 | '''Down+B:''' Wild Charge (Jolteon cloaks itself in electricity, and sprints back and forth a short distance. If an enemy touches Jolteon, then Jolteon suffers minor damage) |
| 349 | |
| 350 | ---> '''Attacked with fire:''' Flareon\ |
| 351 | '''Moves:'''\ |
| 352 | '''Standard:''' Lava Plume (Similar to Ivysaur's Bullet Seed)\ |
| 353 | '''Side+B:''' Fire Fang (Flareon dashes forwards and bites onto the target, leaving them burning for a short time)\ |
| 354 | '''Up+B:''' Flame Charge (Similar to Charizard's Fly)\ |
| 355 | '''Down+B:''' Smog (Releases a cloud of purple smoke around it's body, hurting anyone who stands in the cloud, but does not cause knockback) |
| 356 | |
| 357 | ---> '''Attacked by darkness:''' Umbreon\ |
| 358 | '''Moves:'''\ |
| 359 | '''Standard:''' Payback (Umbreon releases spikes made of darkness from all over it's body)\ |
| 360 | '''Side+B:''' Shadow Ball (Umbreon releases a Shadow Ball. When it hits the opponent, it traps them in a black hole for a short time.)\ |
| 361 | '''Up+B:''' Quick Attack (Identical to Lucario's Extreme Speed)\ |
| 362 | '''Down+B:''' Confuse Ray (Identical to Mewtwo's Disable) |
| 363 | |
| 364 | ---> '''Attacked by energy:''' Espeon\ |
| 365 | '''Moves:'''\ |
| 366 | '''Standard:''' Psyshock (Espeon creates a small energy burst around itself)\ |
| 367 | '''Side+B:''' Zen Headbutt (Espeon dashes forward, injuring anyone in the way of it's attack)\ |
| 368 | '''Up+B:''' Psychic (Espeon levitates in the direction the controller is being held. Similar to Pit's Angel Wing)\ |
| 369 | '''Down+B:''' Morning Sun (Espeon heals itself, but gets tired after using it for too long, immobilizing it for a few seconds) |
| 370 | |
| 371 | ---> '''Attacked by ice:''' Glaceon\ |
| 372 | '''Moves:'''\ |
| 373 | '''Standard:''' Frost Breath (Glaceon breathes a stream of frost that gets smaller over time)\ |
| 374 | '''Side+B:''' Ice Shard (Glaceon fires small shards, similar to Jolteon's Pin Missile)\ |
| 375 | '''Up+B:''' Hail (Glaceon creates a small hailstorm. The Hail is non-damaging, and Glaceon can quickly move from one location to another because of Snow Cloak)\ |
| 376 | '''Down+B:''' Ice Beam (Glaceon fires at the ground, creating stalagmites of ice, that hurt anyone who touches it. If an icicle hits an opponent as it's being created, they are launched and frozen.) |
| 377 | |
| 378 | ---> '''Attacked by grass, leaves, or a similar attack:''' Leafeon\ |
| 379 | '''Moves:'''\ |
| 380 | '''Standard:''' Energy Ball (Leafeon charges the attack, then can fire it. Alternatively, it can swallow it with a button command that will power up it's moves for a short time)\ |
| 381 | '''Side+B:''' Magical Leaf (Leafeon fires a tornado of leaves that damage anyone who touches it, similar to Link's Gale Boomerang)\ |
| 382 | '''Up+B:''' Aerial Ace (Leafeon dashes in a direction. The attack is more powerful at the end.)\ |
| 383 | '''Down+B:''' SolarBeam (Similar to Pikachu's Thunder) |
| 384 | |
| 385 | ---> '''Attacked by a stage hazard or a non-elemental attack:''' Sylveon\ |
| 386 | '''Moves:'''\ |
| 387 | '''Standard:''' Moonblast (Sylveon can charge this move, but if it is charged for too long, it will explode)\ |
| 388 | '''Side+B:''' Play Rough (Sylveon ensnares an opponent and begins to battle with it, resulting in a BigBallOfViolence. Both the target and Sylveon are damaged throughout the attack, but are immune to other opponents)\ |
| 389 | '''Up+B:''' Fairy Wind (Sylveon creates a pink tornado beneath it, and uses it to fly. Similar to Meta Knight's Mach Tornado, enemies caught in the tornado will be damaged)\ |
| 390 | '''Down+B:''' Light Screen (All thrown items and explosive projectiles are reflected. Every other attack will hit Sylveon) |
| 391 | *** Also, the Final Smash will result in all the Eeveelutions gathering and using Last Resort, which will give every single opponent a random effect, such as metal, flower, curry, buried, frozen, asleep, stunned, sped up or slowed down, among others. Eevee will appear and use Trump Card, which will cause the attack to rain down on opponents, similar to PK Starstorm. After that, the player will revert back to using Eevee. |
| 392 | *** I'd like to posit that this is even more likely now that we know about ''VideoGame/PokemonLetsGoPikachuAndLetsGoEevee'', since there appears to be a push to put Eevee on the same level as Pikachu. Another idea for its Final Smash would be Extreme Evoboost which could either a) function like it did in the games and temporarily power Eevee up, or b) act similar to Megaman's Mega Legends, where Eevee summons all of its evolutions and blasts the opponents. |
| 393 | *** Jossed. Eevee was seen as a Poké Ball character. |
| 394 | *** '''=> Current status: Poké Ball (Sylveon as a trophy, Leafeon and Glaceon as a trophy in ''Brawl'')''' |
| 395 | ** '''Magikarp''' |
| 396 | *** He will be tied with Meta Knight for 1st place on the tier list. His Final Smash will be "Final Splash", creating a giant explosion around him. |
| 397 | *** '''=> Current status: none''' |
| 398 | ** '''Genesect''' |
| 399 | *** His leading role in the upcoming Pokémon movie and the fact that they will presumably add a representative from Gen. V would presumably give him an edge. |
| 400 | *** '''=> Current status: Master Ball''' |
| 401 | ** '''Mewtwo''' |
| 402 | *** Mewtwo is one of the stars of the upcoming Pokémon movie, retains immense popularity to this day, and has even recently had a new form revealed for ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY''. Like Lucario and Zoroark, he would serve as the mascot of the newest generation. He would probably appear as one of his Mega Evolutions, rather than his original form, to represent Gen 6. |
| 403 | *** Also, there was a bit of a fan uproar about him being replaced by Lucario in Brawl. His appearance in XY might have been partly to provide a reason to bring him back from Melee. |
| 404 | *** Hopefully this time they'll actually make him into the [[FragileSpeedster lightning-quick]] GlassCannon that he's ''supposed'' to be. |
| 405 | *** It'll likely have both of its Mega Forms as Final Smashes. Hopefully it'll retain its male voice from ''Melee'', however. |
| 406 | *** Another point of speculation is ''which'' Mewtwo will be in this game: the masculine AntiHero from the original movies and ''Melee'', the feminine one from [[Anime/PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened the 16th movie]], or the "feral" one from ''[[Anime/PokemonOrigins Origins]]''. It's pretty likely that they were planning to put the M16 one in the game, but due to her poor reception (especially in the West where the fanbase is older), it's likely that they'll either use the ''Origins'' version, or [[ShesAManInJapan have Reiko Takashima voice Mewtwo in the Japanese version and reuse Ichimura's grunts from ''Melee'' for international versions]]. |
| 407 | *** It is important to remember that Smash Bros. 4 has gender options for Wii Fit Trainer and the Villager, and that Nintendo managed to convince Namco and Capcom to use the classic versions of their characters when Sony was unable to do the same, so it would be strange to not be able to use a version of a character they have more direct ownership of. Plus, Game Freak [[ExecutiveMeddling could always pull rank]] [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools in case of insubordination from Yuyama]]. |
| 408 | *** Lucario has been confirmed to return, but that still means that Mewtwo still has a chance. |
| 409 | *** '''[[Characters/SuperSmashBrosMelee23To26 => Playable in Melee, DLC in ''Super Smash Bros. 4'']]''' |
| 410 | ** '''Charizard''' |
| 411 | *** Charizard, like Mewtwo, is getting a lot of WolverinePublicity these days (more than the other two Kanto starters), especially with the release of ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY'' and ''Anime/PokemonOrigins''. He could return as a distinct playable character a la ''VideoGame/ProjectM'', rather than being 1/3 of a character. For his Final Smash, just like the Mewtwo speculations, he could transform into one of his two Mega Forms. |
| 412 | *** If Charizard doesn't return solo, then Pokémon Trainer could return, possibly with Ivysaur and Squirtle now Venusaur and Blastoise. For his Final Smash, instead of Triple Finish, he could Mega Evolve the Pokémon currently being played (or just Charizard, if Ivysaur and Squirtle are unevolved). And he'd have his voice from ''Origins'', with said FinalSmash being a ShoutOut to the same. |
| 413 | *** '''[[Characters/SuperSmashBrosBrawl32To39 => Charizard is solo in ''Super Smash Bros. 4'' and returns with Pokémon Trainer in ''Ultimate'']]''' |
| 414 | *** Charizard could return as a standalone fighter in the sixth ''Smash'' game, this time likely with G-Max Wildfire (turning into Gigantamax Charizard) as its Final Smash. In this case the Pokémon Trainer could be revamped into... |
| 415 | ** '''[[VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus Pokémon Trainer (Hisui)]]''' |
| 416 | *** With ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus'' taking on a more Action RPG style and the Trainer themselves being more directly involved, "[[LegacyCharacter passing on]]" the "Pokémon Trainer" character slot to Rei/Akari would be a fun idea. They would still primarily fight like the Kanto Trainer, using the Hisui starters - possibly Oshawott, Dartrix, and Hisuian Typhlosion (with Infernal Parade as its neutral special) to match the Kanto Trainer's team, or maybe Rowlet/Dewott/Typhlosion since Rowlet and Dewott are more popular than Dartrix and Oshawott, respectively. ''But'' there would be a few moves where the Trainer in the background gets directly involved. For example, tapping Down B just results in a plain old Pokémon Change, but if the player holds Down B, they gain access to a radial menu (similar to Shulk) where they can switch to any of the three Pokémon at will or have the Trainer throw a balm, a Sticky Glob, a Smoke Bomb or a Scatter Bang to their Pokémon's current position, each of which has a different effect on surrounding foes. All three Pokémon could also have a shared up special where the Trainer calls on Hisuian Braviary to lift it in the air and glide. Similar to the Kanto Trainer, this new Pokémon Trainer would have palette swaps based on other playable Trainers from the series, including Red and Leaf themselves as a CallBack to ''Ultimate'', as well as Rei's and Akari's modern counterparts Lucas and Dawn. Their Final Smash would either be Triple Finish (again, only with an added "Strong Style" visual effect just for funsies and the stylish text box from ''PLA''), or where they summon Arceus itself to use Judgment. |
| 417 | ** '''Meowth''' |
| 418 | *** He was originally going to be in ''Smash 64'', and he's still one of the more popular Pokémon out there. Since the Meowth in the anime series is a part of Team Rocket, could you imagine using him to beat the crap out of Pikachu in revenge for being constantly humiliated all these years? |
| 419 | *** '''=> Current status: Poké Ball''' |
| 420 | ** '''Druddigon''' |
| 421 | *** A viable choice if they wanted to add a non-legendary Dragon-type Pokemon. Yes, we already have the very dragon-like Charizard, but it's a Fire and Flying-type, not a Dragon-type like Druddigon. Going off of just moves that Druddigon can learn by leveling up, it could use its claws for attacks like Dragon Claw and Night Slash (the latter being a good counter-move like Marth's Counter). Revenge could be an attack that does more damage the higher Druddigon's damage percentage is. Chip Away, a move that ignored defense and evasion stat alterations in the original games, can be used to instantly break shields. Its Final Smash can be either Superpower or Outrage. |
| 422 | *** '''=> Current status: none''' |
| 423 | ** '''Espurr''' |
| 424 | *** If Nintendo is aware of Espurr's [[MemeticBadass Memetic]] [[CreepyChild Creep]] status, perhaps it could be playable, using various psychic attacks and adding another BadassAdorable to the series. If not, then possibly as a Pokeball Pokemon or a trophy. |
| 425 | *** '''=> Current status: none''' |
| 426 | ** '''Sceptile''' |
| 427 | *** With Charizard and Greninja's confirmation into the game, that means we've got reptilian starters for two out of the three types; all that's missing is Grass-type representation. Hoenn remakes have also been requested for a long time, and a Sceptile character would be an ideal way to set up for its confirmation. To distance it a bit from Greninja, another GlassCannon-FragileSpeedster mix, Sceptile would rely more on spacing and ranged moves like Aerial Ace and Dragon Pulse with Leaf Storm as an area-of-effect Final Smash; failing a full-fledged slot, being an alternate costume for Greninja would suffice. |
| 428 | *** Y'know, with Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire being announced, having Sceptile would be a very good idea. |
| 429 | *** And with his now confirmed Mega Evolution, that would most likely be his Final Smash. |
| 430 | *** '''=> Current status: none''' |
| 431 | ** '''Audino''' |
| 432 | *** Tired of being used as an [[PinataEnemy EXP Punching bag]], Audino joins the fight. Unlike most of the Pokémon fighters, its playstyle is more MightyGlacier, almost bordering on StoneWall. It also becomes Mega Audino for its Final Smash. |
| 433 | *** '''=> Current status: Trophy''' |
| 434 | ** '''Red''' (a.k.a. the Pokémon Trainer) |
| 435 | *** Since Charizard now has its own slot, and Squirtle and Ivysaur don't really deserve one, Red could return as an actual fighter. He would be very weak of course, both in attack and defense, but would actually play as a [[TheTurretMaster Turret Master]], dropping a specific Pokémon on the stage (depending of the special attack) who wouldn't move and perform an attack indefinitely until it is KO'd by an opponent or called back by the trainer ; like Palutena, he could change the Pokémon (and the subsequent attack) he sends with his custom moves. As a MythologyGag, he would always use Ivysaur and Squitle as his up and down smash, while his forward smash would be him riding a cycle like Wario's bike. Each Pokémon has his own PV meter, and once defeated, it has a cooldown before he could send him again. His Final Smash would be his 6 Pokémon performing their attack at once, and it would by slightly different depending on what Pokémons the player chose with the custom moves. Also, Blue and Leaf could serve as PaletteSwaps. |
| 436 | *** '''=> Current status: CONFIRMED! (Red and Leaf)''' |
| 437 | ** '''Mimikyu''' |
| 438 | *** During the time between ''Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U'' and the Smash Bros game for the ''Switch'', ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' and its enhanced versions, ''VideoGame/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon'' were announced and released. This means a whole slew of Pokémon now have a chance to appear in this game. Most likely they'll be Pokéball Pokémon or background characters/hazards in a new stage, but its possible that Gen 7 will be represented by a new fighter. The easiest choice could be Decidueye, but the fact that he already appears as a playable fighter in ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament'' probably means that his appearance as a fighter in ''Smash'' is questionable. Enter '''Mimikyu'''. It can be quite an unconventional fighter as not only is it about the same size as Pikachu, but can function as a LongRangeFighter with a long-reaching ghostly Shadow Claw and Shadow Sneak. It can even display its Fairy-type traits like Play Rough better then Jigglypuff can. It also can display its signature ability, Disguise, which could soak up damage from a strong attack. Unlike the RPG, it can probably regenerate over time (similar to Robin's Smash and Special moves). It even has a built-in Final Smash in the form of its unique Z-Move "Let's Snuggle Forever". On top of all that, its one of the most popular Gen 7 Pokémon and can even play a "villainous" role that people are clamoring for. |
| 439 | *** '''=>Current status: Pokeball Pokemon''' |
| 440 | ** '''Buzzwole''' |
| 441 | *** Despite being relatively new to Pokemon, the Ultra Beasts have been beloved for their strange looks, and like Mimikyu, They also first appeared in the 7th generation. Buzzwole would make the most sense, as this thing is among the most popular and recognized of the Ultra Beasts, also being the first Bug type to appear in Smash. It would be a physical powerhose, dealing high powered and heavy attacks, such as Power-Up Punch and Hammer Arm. It would also be the size of Bowser, Donkey Kong, and other physical sweepers in the Smash roster. It's final smash would be the Fighting type Z-Move, All-Out Pummeling. |
| 442 | ** '''Alolan Marowak''' |
| 443 | *** There's a good chance that at least ''one'' Pokemon from Alola will get onto the playable roster, and while Decidueye is a good possibility due to already getting into ''Pokken'', Alolan Marowak also has a good chance in my opinion. The flaming bone club gives lots of attack options that don't all necessarily have to be based on actual pokemon moves, and it's Final Smash could easily be the Z-Move Inferno Overdrive. |
| 444 | ** '''Dusk Form Lycanroc''' |
| 445 | *** Probably Gen 7's equivalent to Ash Greninja, Lycanroc has a decent shot at being playable. It's different form most fighters due to being a quadruped (a trait shared only by Ivysar and Duck Hunt) plus it has a number of earth-based moves, such as Accelrock, Drill Run, or Stone Edge which hasn't been seen in Smash yet. It can even have a Counter, which it and Midnight form can learn. Alt colors could include Midday and Midnight forms. It's Final Smash can be its Z-move, Splintered Stormshards. |
| 446 | ** '''Pheromosa''' |
| 447 | *** Similar to Buzzwole mentioned above, Pheromosa is one of the most popular of the Ultra Beasts. However, I feel that it's the most "human-like" of them as it has proportions that can easily be adapted as a potential fighter. Unlike Buzzwole, instead of brute strength and bulk, it emphasizes speed. Kind of like a Zero Suit Samus and Sonic rolled into one. To differentiate itself from Buzzwole's Final Smash, it could use the Bug-type Z-Move, Savage Spin-Out, rather then the Fighting Z-Move (although either could be swapped). |
| 448 | ** '''Decidueye''' |
| 449 | *** Mentioned a fair number of times already, Decidueye is the top picks for potential fighters since its a grass starter to compliment Charizard and Greninja and because its from Gen VII. Not to mention that it already appears as a fighter in ''Pokken Tournament''. However, one thing that could derail plans is the fact that Charizard isn't alone anymore as Squirtle and Ivysaur have returned alongside the Pokemon trainer. Thus having a Grass/Fire/Water dynamic between 3 starter Pokemon isn't a huge priority any longer. It's Final Smash would be the Z-Move Sinister Arrow Raid. |
| 450 | ** '''Tsareena''' |
| 451 | *** Kind of out of left field, as it doesn't have the same "star power" that Decidueye has, but it combines the Pheromosa (beautiful girly Pokemon that [[KickChick attacks by kicking]]) and Decidueye (Grass type) ideas. For a Final Smash, it can use the Grass Z-move Bloom Doom. |
| 452 | ** '''Incineroar''' |
| 453 | *** I've got issues that its another Fire type starter that'll muscle in on Charizard's territory, but the fact of the matter is that its actually more popular then Decidueye in Japan. It's also really easy to develop a potential moveset for. Obviously its Final Smash is its signature Z-move Malicious Moonsault. |
| 454 | *** '''=>Current status: Confirmed!''' |
| 455 | ** '''Golisopod''' |
| 456 | *** A very strange choice since there are two other water types on the cast, but the main reason I'm including it is that it would allow Guzma's theme to be used as its leitmotif. As for its moveset, instead of Emergency Exit making it escape from battle, it makes it faster the more damage it has, similar to Lucario's Aura powering up. |
| 457 | ** '''Silvally''' |
| 458 | *** Considering its importance in ''Sun and Moon'''s story, I think it has a decent shot at being a fighter, maybe it could even have a moveset that's derived from its RKS System in that it borrows from all types of moves (similar to Mega Man's moveset being derived from various Robot Masters). It also can have Gladion's battle them as its leitmotif. |
| 459 | ** '''Kartana''' |
| 460 | *** Another Ultra Beast, but it would be amusing if it was the same size as Pichu, but had an absurd attacking power. |
| 461 | ** '''Necrozma''' |
| 462 | *** I know that it's highly unlikely[[note]]Likely reasons being size and [[VideoGame/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon USUM]] being less relevant in late 2018, but the inclusion of Ridley and King K. Rool provides a counter to the former argument...[[/note]], but it would be an interesting sight to see Necrozma as a playable character. |
| 463 | *** '''Moves:'''\ |
| 464 | '''Standard:''' Photon Geyser – Necrozma charges a small sun before throwing it at the ground and detonating it. The explosion deals more damage if charged longer, but the sun travels farther if uncharged.\ |
| 465 | '''Up+B:''' Ultra Wormhole – Necrozma rips open an Ultra Wormhole, and emerges from a new one afterwards. The player uses a cursor to choose where Necrozma emerges. However, its range is limited (balance reasons) and Necrozma automatically emerges after 3 seconds.\ |
| 466 | '''Side+B:''' Prismatic Laser – Necrozma charges and fires a powerful burst of lasers that deal high damage + knockback. Afterwards, Necrozma can't move for 7 seconds or longer (max. 11 seconds) depending on how long it was charged.\ |
| 467 | '''Down+B (ground):''' Sunsteel Strike – Necrozma transforms into its Dusk Mane form (Smash doesn't always follow canon rules), then rushes at the opponent with enough force to break shields.\ |
| 468 | '''Down+B (midair):''' Moongeist Beam – Dawn Wings Necrozma fires a laser in a diagonal direction for moderate damage.\ |
| 469 | '''Final Smash:''' Light That Burns The Sky – Necrozma transforms into its Dusk Mane/Dawn Wings form(s) before using Ultra Burst to become Ultra Necrozma. It then creates and detonates a full-sized sun for massive damage. The attack is slightly different depending on whether Necrozma is grounded or airborne (similar to how range affects Ryu's Final Smash). On the ground, Necrozma throws the sun straight down, creating a massive pillar of burning light; in the air, the sun explodes into a shower of giant deadly lasers instead. |
| 470 | ** '''Rillaboom''' |
| 471 | *** If Gen VI gave us Greninja and Gen VII gave us Incineroar, then Rillaboom could be next to be released in a future DLC that's tied to Pokemon Sword and Shield. |
| 472 | *** The Final Smash could be it's Gigantamax form that will appear in the upcoming DLC for Sword and Shield. |
| 473 | ** '''Urshifu''' |
| 474 | *** A bit more cynically minded compared to the other Pokémon suggestions, but it'd make the most sense. The ''Sword and Shield'' expansion pass is coming out in a few months as of the time of this edit, and it wouldn't make sense to just relegate the most recent and successful ''Pokémon'' games to date to just a Spirit Board event. Plus, Urshifu was practically built for this game; it could even make use of its Single-Strike and Rapid-Strike Styles for a gameplay gimmick. |
| 475 | *** Surging Strikes could make a good Side-B move, Wicked Blow can be a chargeable neutral B, Seismic Toss would be an up-B move that leaps up and grabs midair opponents to dunk them downwards depending on their percentage, and down-B would be to swap between Single-Strike and Rapid-Strike Styles. Final Smash would be Gigantamax depending on which style you chose so there are 2 different Final Smashes where Urshifu will use either G-Max One Blow or G-Max Rapid Flow in a cinematic after trapping opponents with an attack. |
| 476 | ** '''Smeargle''' |
| 477 | *** Can use Sketch to copy any character's special moves, with exceptions such as swap-out moves. Smeargle can then be customized to have whatever four special moves you want, but at the cost of low power, speed, or other traits demonstrating a lack of skill or experience. |
| 478 | ** '''Calyrex''' |
| 479 | *** An unremarkable fighter on his own but can gather Carrots and the Reins of Unity to summon Glastrier or Spectrier, and Calyrex will ride atop his chosen steed for the rest of the match and become much more effective and gain a better set of moves. |
| 480 | ** '''Braixen''' |
| 481 | *** This may be an unlikely pick, considering Gen 6 already passed, but it would be great if her moveset is based on ''VideoGame/PokkenTournament''. Her down special would be Sunny Day, which would work as a StatusBuff to some of her attacks. Also having Psyfirecracker as her final smash. |
| 482 | ** '''Popplio''' |
| 483 | *** Again, this is another unlikely pick, but the chance of the water starter of Alola would be perfect for a LethalJokeCharacter like them. It would be an agile fighter who would be focused on long-ranged attacks using its bubbles. It's final smash would have it use it's Z-Move, Hydro Vortex, where it summons a whirlpool and starts lobbing several exploding bubbles into it before slamming itself into the whirlpool, causing it to explode. |
| 484 | [[quoteright:335:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/logo-zelda_1065.png]] |
| 485 | * Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda |
| 486 | ** '''Vaati''' |
| 487 | *** Vaati is the second-most recurring villain in the Zelda series. And since Smash Bros really needs more villainous characters... |
| 488 | *** Seconded. We never did get to see his swordplay in ''The Minish Cap''. Also, he's first and foremost a wind mage, so his moveset would probably have a lot of wind-manipulating moves. Cue pushing opponents around without ever even ''touching'' them, which would make him a ''very'' interesting character both to play as and to play against. |
| 489 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit (Four Swords version)''' |
| 490 | ** '''Fierce Deity Link''' |
| 491 | *** Might be too much like adult link but has the power to fire energy from his double helix sword. |
| 492 | *** '''=> Current status: [[PaletteSwap "Playable"]] since ''Super Smash Bros. 4''''' |
| 493 | *** Hey, Sakurai might take a page from ''VideoGame/HyruleWarriors'' and have him be Young Link's Final Smash in ''Ultimate''. |
| 494 | *** '''Jossed''': Young Link's Final Smash is the same as his adult counterpart's. |
| 495 | ** '''Ghirahim''' |
| 496 | *** He's the main villain of Skyward Sword, and seems to be very popular. He could potentially have a very interesting moveset centered around his projectiles, sword, and teleporting. |
| 497 | *** His Final Smash could be [[spoiler:Demise]]. He could be given a small moveset and no flinching like Giga Bowser. |
| 498 | *** '''=> Current status: Assist Trophy and Spirit''' |
| 499 | ** '''Majora's Mask''' |
| 500 | *** Either worn by someone or by itself. It was the driving force of a plot, a final boss, the title of a game, and has many different options for representation. |
| 501 | *** How about having Skull Kid wear it and its Final Smash having the moon crash into the stage? |
| 502 | *** '''=> Current status: Assist Trophy (worn by Skull Kid) and Spirit''' |
| 503 | ** '''Toon Zelda''' |
| 504 | *** Based off of her appearance in ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSpiritTracks'', she can be her ghostly self that is a Luigification of the adult Zelda, or she could appear in Phantom armor and have a moveset based off the various types of Phantoms. Toon Zelda ''was'' considered for Brawl, and ''Spirit Tracks'' is one of the princess's most active roles, so it'd make sense that if she were included, there'd be at least some basis from that. |
| 505 | *** Maybe she could appear as Tetra but have the ability to change into Toon Zelda. |
| 506 | *** '''Jossed''', but Zelda's new down-B, Phantom Slash, is a nod to ''Spirit Tracks''. |
| 507 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit''' |
| 508 | ** '''Groose''' |
| 509 | *** Not nearly as likely as Ghirahim, but he's proved to be so popular with fans that he's likely to show up in some fashion, even if not playable. |
| 510 | *** Groose could probably be an assist trophy, at the very least. He could show up and attack players with the Groosenator, or ride in on his Loftwing along with his friends and bomb everyone/throw eggs at them. |
| 511 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit''' |
| 512 | ** '''''Skyward Sword'' Link''' |
| 513 | *** An alternate costume to ''Twilight Princess'' Link, his moves will be identical in play, but the SwordLines, explosions, and sound effects will be more cartoony so as to fit the stages that use cel shading. Toon Link will be retired to make way for Zelda characters with different moves and swordsmen from other Nintendo games. |
| 514 | *** I always figured that Skyward Sword Link would be the basis of the new adult Link, replacing ''Twilight Princess'' Link. Toon Link should probably stay, though, as he's been in two games (Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks) since ''Twilight Princess''. |
| 515 | *** '''=> Current status: PaletteSwap for Link (casual clothes), DLC Mii Costume based on his Skyloft Knight tunic, and Spirit''' |
| 516 | ** '''Classic Link''' |
| 517 | *** Probably the ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast ALttP]]'' Link, especially if Nintendo does remake it like they've been hinting. Nintendo has made shout outs to the past before. |
| 518 | *** They made a sequel so that ups the possibility. |
| 519 | *** '''=> Current status: PaletteSwap for Toon Link and Spirit''' |
| 520 | ** '''Twinrova''' |
| 521 | *** They have made three appearances, were a BigBad once, and really would make more sense for a FanService character than Samus, their "sexy dress" is actually just as effective in combat as their default battle dress. |
| 522 | *** '''=> Current status: Stage hazard (separated) and trophy (united)''' |
| 523 | ** '''Impa''' |
| 524 | *** Face it, she's one of the only other truly recurring heroic characters in the series -- for the sake of being topical (and having a version of her that can actually, you know, ''fight''), they'd use the ''Skyward Sword'' version. Better yet, assuming the ''SS'' version of Zelda is also used, they could potentially get rid of Sheik entirely (due to her/him not really making sense with this version of Zelda), instead letting Impa take up her approximate role. She'd fight somewhat similarly, but with the addition of more magical attacks that make use of her harp. |
| 525 | *** I agree that Impa should replace Sheik, but she should keep the exact same moveset, and Sheik would become an [[PaletteSwap alternate skin]] for Impa like Alph is for Olimar. |
| 526 | *** Given ''Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity'' being released during the early stages of the second DLC pass and featuring a younger version of ''Breath of the Wild''[='=]s Impa as one of its characters, a ''Smash'' version of the character could easily be based on ''[=AoC=]''[='=]s. This could provide a pre-made moveset to adapt into ''Smash'', as well as cross-game publicity. |
| 527 | *** '''=> Current status: Trophy''' |
| 528 | ** '''Midna and Wolf Link''' |
| 529 | *** She may have only appeared once, but Midna made a pretty big impression on the fanbase, and the creators ''did'' say that "she may come back if people want it enough". For this appearance, she'd be in her usual imp form while riding Wolf Link, making for a character duo rather like Duck Hunt. A-moves would be provided by Wolf Link (biting, slashing, etc), Midna would use her magic for B-moves. Her Final Smash would obviously involve the use of the Fused Shadows. |
| 530 | *** '''=> Current status: Assist Trophy (only Midna) and Spirit (together)''' |
| 531 | ** '''Ganon''' |
| 532 | *** The potential of Ganon returning for ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkBetweenWorlds'' would certainly give him a great chance. After all, he's still by all means the BigBad of the classic Zelda games and the most recurring villain, despite effectively being replaced by Ganondorf in the 3D games. ''A Link Between Worlds'' would make him relevant again, making him a more likely candidate than other villains like Vaati or Twinrova. He would probably play as a very slow, heavy and hard-hitting character, with some ranged attacks in the form of the batlike fiery projectiles he's known to use in boss battles. |
| 533 | *** '''=> Current status: Final Smash for Ganondorf, Boss and Spirit''' |
| 534 | ** '''Demise''' |
| 535 | *** The chronologically original BigBad of the franchise, Demise is a fairly notable figure in the series and the fandom despite only appearing in one game, and consequently admittedly being a less likely choice than others. He could feasibly feature as either his own fighter or as an echo of Ganondorf. |
| 536 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit''' |
| 537 | ** '''Tingle''' |
| 538 | *** Tingle has appeared in a fair amount of ''Zelda'' games, and even has his own series under his belt. He could the newest JokeCharacter [[LethalJokeCharacter (lethal]] or otherwise) and fight with Rupees. He can also use his "magic words" to cause random effects on opponents. At least, his balloon could be used as a recovery move. |
| 539 | *** '''=> Current status: Stage Cameo (Great Bay) and Spirit''' |
| 540 | ** '''Linkle''' |
| 541 | *** Technically a third Link character as a GenderBender of Link, she would be a representative for ''Hyrule Warriors'' in particular. Her main differentiating feature from other ''Zelda'' characters is that her non-special attacks use her crossbows, not unlike Mega Man, and her moveset is otherwise based around different weapons and items used by Link with a focus on close-range to balance her crossbows, like an inversion of Link's primary attacks being with his sword but most of his special attacks being ranged, along with some emphasis on Cuccos. |
| 542 | *** '''=> Current Status: none''' |
| 543 | ** '''Skull Kid''' |
| 544 | *** His Assist Trophy is not only absent in ''Ultimate'', but appears to have been replaced outright by the Moon AT with no signs of the Skull Kid summoning it. It would be strange for both to be Assists--given that the Moon collision was what everyone wanted the Skull Kid AT to do in the first place, why not simply combine the two? Skull Kid could have become a boss, but Rathalos shows that characters can be both bosses and Assists, so that alone wouldn't explain Skull Kid's absence. Skull Kid was a popular request back in pre-Brawl speculation and remains iconic to this day, plus a ''Majora's Mask'' re-release came out in 2015 just in time for the Smash ballot. K. Rool, Ridley, and many of the Echoes imply ''Ultimate''[='=]s roster is heavily focused on adding fan-favorites -- could Skull Kid be next to join? If included, Skull Kid would probably fight using a lot of Majora's powers shown during the final boss fight, maybe combined with use of Tatl/Tael like in ''Hyrule Warriors''. |
| 545 | *** '''=> Current Status: Assist Trophy and Spirit''' |
| 546 | ** '''Ganondorf (Reworked)''' |
| 547 | *** Note that this isn't referring to the Captain Falcon MovesetClone already present in ''Smash'', but a reworked Ganondorf who actually uses moves from his home series, whether it happens through the existing Ganondorf ''finally'' getting that rework people have requested for many, many years or another Ganondorf with a different appearance. There's been so much uproar over how badly Ganon's been portrayed in ''Smash'' that something big is bound to happen sooner or later (not simply getting his sword for his Smash Attacks), whether it takes a full series reboot, a new director, or simply Sakurai deciding to shake up his traditions. Naturally, this reworked Ganondorf would make loads of use of magic, he'd use his sword in way more attacks, his energy balls would be his Neutral Special, his ground punch would be in there somewhere, he'd levitate like Peach, and generally make use of all the techniques he's used over the course of the series. |
| 548 | *** '''=> Current Status: Semi-confirmed.''' Ganondorf in ''Ultimate'' incorporates his sword for a few attacks. |
| 549 | ** '''Demon King Ganondorf''' |
| 550 | *** This is specifically referring to his incarnation from ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTearsOfTheKingdom''. Aside from having a decloned moveset like above, it would be based on the attacks he showed during his final boss battle in the game. With a particular emphasis on Gloom. (His essence, not the Pokémon) |
| 551 | *** '''=> Current Status: none''' |
| 552 | [[quoteright:335:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/logo-icarus_855.png]] |
| 553 | * ''VideoGame/KidIcarus'': |
| 554 | ** '''Orcos''' |
| 555 | *** Whether or not it's referenced in ''Uprising'', the existence of a ''Myth and Monsters'' sticker is proof Sakurai knows about Kid Icarus's gameboy sequel. One could argue Orcos's attacks may not be different enough from each other to be playable, but seeing how Sora developed a Kid Icarus game and Pit's new moves and appearance were in that game, Sakurai could easily do the same for Orcos. |
| 556 | *** '''=> Current status: none''' |
| 557 | ** '''Eggplant Wizard''' |
| 558 | *** He will be TheDragon under Mother Brain in the 4th ''Super Smash Bros.'' game. |
| 559 | *** '''=> Current status: none''' |
| 560 | ** '''Palutena''' |
| 561 | *** Would definitely help on the gender ratio, and I believe she's popular enough. Plus she showed some good powers when made to fight in [[VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising Uprising.]] |
| 562 | *** '''=> Playable since ''Super Smash Bros. 4''''' |
| 563 | ** '''Medusa''' |
| 564 | *** Is hardly ever the first choice, but as of Uprising she has the distinction of being Pit's most persistent nemesis and (now) has more versatile move potential than Orcos. |
| 565 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit''' |
| 566 | ** '''Magnus''' |
| 567 | *** Very popular and could possibly replace Ike given he technically is Ike's {{Expy}} in personality and strength. Either that or just being an Ike clone or Nintendo giving him a completely different move set. |
| 568 | *** '''=> Current status: Assist Trophy in ''Super Smash Bros. 4'', Spirit in Ultimate''' |
| 569 | ** '''Dark Pit''' |
| 570 | *** I could see Dark Pit more as a palette swap for Pit than anything else. Of course, given his popularity, I could see Nintendo just putting him in for the fans and making him a clone. Of course, Nintendo could pull a Capcom where his moves would be different (like Dante and Vergil from ''Ultimate vs. Capcom 3'' despite being brothers have a completely different move set). |
| 571 | *** '''=> Playable since ''Super Smash Bros. 4''''' |
| 572 | ** '''[[spoiler:Hades]]''' |
| 573 | *** [[spoiler:He's the true antagonist of Uprising and could very well serve as a boss, or a playable character. He's funny and if they added voices in the next story mode (if there's a story mode), I can picture Pit and Hades yelling each other's name again.]] |
| 574 | *** [[spoiler:Forget playable character, he should be a goddamn '''stage'''. He makes all sorts of quips whenever something happens, like a character being defeated.]] |
| 575 | *** '''[[spoiler:=> Current status: Spirit]]''' |
| 576 | ** '''Pyrrhon''' |
| 577 | *** A pure fire user with a huge ego and LargeHam that can rival Captain Falcon. Can you imagine those two teaming up? |
| 578 | *** '''=> Current status: Trophy''' |
| 579 | ** '''Phosphora''' |
| 580 | *** Another character to help with the gender ratio. She's a lightning user and her fighting style in Uprising is very unique. And we can't forget the BelligerentSexualTension between her and Pit. |
| 581 | *** '''=> Current status: Assist Trophy''' |
| 582 | ** '''Viridi''' |
| 583 | *** Yet another character to help balance the gender ratio, but that's not even the half of it. She's the goddess of nature, which already sets her up for a unique moveset. If not that, then she can at least be made into an [[MovesetClone Echo Fighter of Palutena]]. After all, she ''was'' the MissionControl while Palutena was suffering from DemonicPossession, and during those chapters, she grants Pit the same powers that Palutena would turn into her own moveset. |
| 584 | ---->"Anything Palutena can do, I can do better!" |
| 585 | *** Her Final Smash could be a Reset Bomb. |
| 586 | *** '''=> Current status: Background character, Spirit, Palutena's Guidance, and DLC Mii Costume''' |
| 587 | [[quoteright:335:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/logo-kirby_1476.png]] |
| 588 | * ''VideoGame/{{Kirby}}'': |
| 589 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/8e9a86707d7450a5e3ab1c18650ed6ca.png |
| 590 | ** '''Yarn Kirby''' |
| 591 | *** Yarn Kirby already has a lot of moves, and his Final Smash can be his transformation to a tank from Epic Yarn. |
| 592 | *** '''=> Current status: none''' |
| 593 | [[quoteright:109:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/9a98c8aa2e5278269722cb717eeab839.png]] |
| 594 | ** '''Prince Fluff''' |
| 595 | *** For the same reasons as Yarn Kirby, especially when one considers the game was planned to be about him before the developer got the [[DolledUpInstallment idea to add Kirby.]] |
| 596 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit''' |
| 597 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/7b0b00f2665352581be509337b46e801.png |
| 598 | ** '''Bandana Dee''' |
| 599 | *** He's now been a playable character in ''VideoGame/KirbysReturnToDreamLand'' alongside already playable Kirby, Meta Knight, and Dedede. He'll be wielding his spear, with a spear throw as a neutral-B and that helicopter spear twirl as his up-B. |
| 600 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit (starts as regular Waddle Dee, evolves into Bandanna Dee)''' |
| 601 | [[quoteright:109:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/cecb1ac1dffe7a058be717cba4545f2d.png]] |
| 602 | ** '''Galacta Knight''' |
| 603 | *** Probably one of the most popular Kirby characters in recent memory. He has a whole slew of moves from ''VideoGame/KirbySuperStar Ultra'' [[spoiler:and ''VideoGame/KirbysReturnToDreamLand'']] that he could use. |
| 604 | *** Actually, he might work better as a boss character for the game's story/adventure mode. Perhaps as a {{Superboss}}, just like in his home games. |
| 605 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit and PaletteSwap for Meta-Knight''' |
| 606 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/00a77d2f687aac15e56f34bf9e96a660.png |
| 607 | ** '''Knuckle Joe''' |
| 608 | *** He was an assist trophy in Brawl, but so much could be done with him. He'd be a good LightningBruiser, has some solid attacks like the Vulcan Jab, Force Blast, Rising Break, and others. For a Final Smash, he could grab a nearby opponent and perform an Air Drop, leaping high into the air and coming down hard. |
| 609 | *** '''=> Current status: Assist Trophy and Spirit''' |
| 610 | ** '''Adeleine''' |
| 611 | *** ''WebComic/BrawlInTheFamily'' makes the case for her moveset in [[http://brawlinthefamily.keenspot.com/comic/488-adeleineforsmashbros/ this strip]], and it does seem oddly convenient that she makes no appearance in the base game (not even as a Spirit), while [[VideoGame/ArtAcademy Vince]] and [[UsefulNotes/SwapNote Nikki]] were both picked over her for painting/drawing-based Assist Trophies. Her appearance in ''VideoGame/KirbyStarAllies'' was well-received, so Nintendo knows she's got fans. Perhaps the reason she's not a Spirit is because Nintendo plans to make her a DLC character. |
| 612 | *** '''=> Current status: none''' |
| 613 | [[quoteright:335:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/logo-metroid_2769.png]] |
| 614 | * Franchise/{{Metroid}} |
| 615 | ** Metroid Prime Hunters: '''Sylux''', '''Weavel''', etc. |
| 616 | *** Any hunter from the Hunters DS game could work, but Sylux ties for the most overused by players and is specifically said to be Samus' rival. Weavel is a space pirate, Samus's enemy by default, and can use weapons from other space pirates to pad his move set. |
| 617 | *** '''=> Current status: Trophies in ''Brawl''''' |
| 618 | ** '''Metroid Prime''' |
| 619 | *** It has its name on a trilogy of games and has numerous different moves and forms that would work in a fighting game. |
| 620 | *** If it does appear, it will probably show up as Dark Samus. |
| 621 | *** '''=> Current status: Confirmed for playable (As Dark Samus)''' |
| 622 | ** '''Mother Brain''' |
| 623 | *** Mother Brain will be the BigBad of the 4th ''Super Smash Bros.'' game. |
| 624 | *** '''=> Current status: Assist Trophy and Spirit''' |
| 625 | ** '''Ridley''' |
| 626 | *** C'mon, his size is wildly inconsistent even within his own series, so the "he's too big!" argument is null and void. He's Samus' archnemesis and one of the only other recurring characters in the series, and he has many different forms and attacks within the various games that can be drawn upon for moves. |
| 627 | ** It should be noted that Sakurai has teased Ridley quite a few times without ever showing him outright or by name. Whether he is a boss on the Pyrosphere or playable is yet to be seen. |
| 628 | *** '''=> Current status: CONFIRMED!''' |
| 629 | ** '''Adam Malkovich''' |
| 630 | *** Okay, this one's a bit of a stretch, but he ''is'' basically the only other important human in the series. His moveset would likely be heavily made-up, but that never stopped the likes of Captain Falcon or Fox. |
| 631 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit''' |
| 632 | ** '''Rundas, Ghor, or Gandrayda''' |
| 633 | *** They've each got more personality than any of the hunters from the DS game, and Rundas himself is a major EnsembleDarkhorse for his [[Creator/ChristopherSabat voice]], theme song, and ice powers. |
| 634 | *** '''=> Current status: none''' |
| 635 | ** '''Anthony Higgs''' |
| 636 | *** It would make sense for one of the most important characters from Other M to make the cut. He's shown he's good in combat, and he has great taunt potential. Can't you hear him shouting "You got no style!" to Captain Falcon? |
| 637 | *** '''=> Current status: none''' |
| 638 | ** '''Raven Beak''' |
| 639 | *** He's pretty much the driving point for the entire series and would make an excellent fighter. While he may have a similar moveset to Samus on paper, the attacks he's shown in ''Dread'' are distinctive enough to make for a unique one. |
| 640 | *** '''=> Current status: none''' |
| 641 | [[quoteright:335:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/logo-fireemblem_7425.png]] |
| 642 | * ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'': |
| 643 | ** '''FE Switch Rep''' |
| 644 | *** Like Roy for ''Melee'', Ike for ''Brawl'', Lucina/Robin for [=SSB4=] and Corrin for DLC, the most recent or soon upcoming FE main character tends to get a slot in Smash. |
| 645 | *** If this happens, likely '''Edelgard''' from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses'', who appears to be the game's main Lord. The game's debut trailer shows she's capable of using axes as well as swords, so she could avert the "too many sword users" complaint. |
| 646 | *** '''=> Current status: See Byleth's entry. Edelgard appears as a Spirit using Byleth as a base.''' |
| 647 | ** '''Anna''' |
| 648 | *** She's practically the mascot of ''Fire Emblem''. She's been playable in 2 main line games (''Awakening'' as a sword user and ''Fates'' as a bow user) and 2 popular spinoffs (''Heroes'' as an axe user and a main character, ''Warriors'' as a bow user.) |
| 649 | *** Her moveset could be inspired by any of the individual classes she's appeared as (including giving Smash an axe user) or she could be the physical counterpart to Robin, using multiple physical weapons just as he uses multiple magic types. |
| 650 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit''' |
| 651 | ** '''Lyndis''' |
| 652 | *** Mostly because that would be kickass. She could play as another speedster type with a unique counter type move and an attack based on her critical. Being confirmed for ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriors'' will definitely help her chance. |
| 653 | *** She's also been described by the developers as 'the western Marth' as the first FE Lord introduced to international audiences. She's proved incredibly popular and relevant via ''Warriors'' and ''Heroes''. |
| 654 | *** '''=> Current status: Assist Trophy and Spirit''' |
| 655 | ** '''Fjorm''' |
| 656 | *** The Lance wielding poster character for the incredibly successful [[VideoGame/FireEmblemHeroes Heroes]]. |
| 657 | *** '''=> Current status: none''' |
| 658 | ** '''Celica''' |
| 659 | *** Following [[VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden Gaiden’s remake]] as well as her appearances in [[VideoGame/FireEmblemHeroes Heroes]] and [[VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriors Warriors]], her popularity has skyrocketed. If not her own slot, she could be a palette swap or alternate costume for Robin |
| 660 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit alongside Alm''' |
| 661 | ** '''Micaiah''' |
| 662 | *** From [[VideoGame/FireEmblemRadiantDawn Radiant Dawn]]; it would be cool to have a magic user from ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' (and another female character!). Plus, Ike was from Path of Radiance. She could replace (or not) Ike himself. Or better yet... |
| 663 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit''' |
| 664 | ** '''Sothe''' |
| 665 | *** '''He''' can replace Ike. |
| 666 | *** Or he could be a separate character, utilizing knives and agility, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2WyRYCpoAM as seen here (skip to 1:42)]] |
| 667 | *** '''=> Current status: Trophy''' |
| 668 | ** '''Ashera''' |
| 669 | *** Against her is that Smash Bros already has a similarly dressed magic user in the form of Zelda and Ashera's attacks would have to be severely toned down. For her is that she has many different attacks, so her moveset wouldn't take much padding, many characters (like Ike) are already toned down, and she'd be the first antagonist from the Fire Emblem series to be playable. |
| 670 | *** '''=> Current status: none''' |
| 671 | ** '''The Black Knight''' |
| 672 | *** Against him is that Ike is already a slowish character that handles his sword in a similar way and Ike and Marth would need a new entrance if he used warp powder for one of his moves. For him is that he's a popular villain from the most recent Fire Emblem game. |
| 673 | *** Of the series' most recent villains (not including remakes), he is fairly popular and would fit the Smash Bros gameplay well (unlike, say, Ashera or Ashnard). His rivalry with Ike is also a plus. His moveset can incorporate Eclipse (probably similar to Marth's Dancing Blade), and his Up-Special could use his warp powder (similar to Zelda/Sheik). He would also likely have Counter, like the other ''Fire Emblem'' characters. His Final Smash could be some improved form of Eclipse, like how Ike has Great Aether. Other than basic team color changes, palette swaps could include his ''Path of Radiance'' or ''Radiant Dawn'' appearance (depending on which one is his default appearance) and [[spoiler:a palette based on Zelgius's Begnion armor]]. Admittedly, though, his last appearance in the series was a while ago... |
| 674 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit, DLC Mii Costume, and Assist Trophy''' |
| 675 | ** '''Chrom''' |
| 676 | *** The protagonist in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''. |
| 677 | *** '''=> Current status: Confirmed as an Echo Fighter for Roy''' |
| 678 | ** '''Sigurd''' |
| 679 | *** He was originally planned for Melee before Marth replaced him. Marth's moves and taunts are clearly his; Brawl changed Shield Breaker to look more like Marth's thrust and added Marth's critical hit, but he's still mostly Sigurd painted over. Now that one of Marth's games has been released in English, Nintendo might as well admit Smash Bros. Marth was Sigurd in disguise. |
| 680 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit''' |
| 681 | ** '''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Lucina]]''' |
| 682 | *** Perhaps even as a replacement for Marth. |
| 683 | *** If nothing else, it would be nice if Marth inherited her costume. |
| 684 | *** '''[[Characters/SuperSmashUltimateBrosEchoFighters => Playable since ''Super Smash Bros. 4'']]''' |
| 685 | ** '''Robin/the Avatar''' |
| 686 | *** S/he could be a very interesting secret character, if Chrom was unlocked from the start. The gender issue can be sidestepped by having male and female default Avatars with different models/voice acting but the same moveset. Maybe even have the option to import your own Avatar from ''Awakening'' if you don't like the defaults. And like Micaiah above, a magic-based moveset (or even a magical/physical hybrid) could give them a lot of uniqueness and versatility. |
| 687 | *** '''[[Characters/SuperSmashBros456To59 => Playable since ''Super Smash Bros. 4'']]''' |
| 688 | ** '''Morgan''' |
| 689 | *** If it would be too much work to put Robin in, Morgan would be the next best thing, since the latter's character design is more standardized than the former's. You could even use his/her various hair colors for team differentiation. |
| 690 | *** '''=> Current status: none''' |
| 691 | ** '''Chrom AND Robin''' |
| 692 | *** The game they come from boasts a new mechanic that's very central to the gameplay, specifically, pairing up so two characters fight as one and help each other out with follow-up attacks and jumping in the way of enemy hits. Robin is just as much a protagonist of that game as Chrom is, and the two are even said to be "two halves of the same whole". It'd make sense to represent their game by having Chrom and Robin share a character slot with a moveset that revolves around the other helping them out, perhaps as a cross between Ice Climbers and Pokemon Trainer. |
| 693 | *** Unfortunately, that would preclude either of them from being paired up with Lucina, if she appeared as either herself or a Marth alt. It would be better to have them as separate characters and include a few easter eggs for when they're fighting together, same as with the Star Fox characters. |
| 694 | *** Lucina would more likely be a Chrom alt, since a cutscene during Chapter 4 of Fire Emblem Awakening shows that Chrom and Lucina fight very similarly. |
| 695 | *** '''=> Current status: Final Smash for Robin in ''[=3DS/Wii U=]'', separately playable in ''Ultimate''.''' |
| 696 | ** '''Donny''' |
| 697 | *** He will appear as a LethalJokeCharacter. Like [[VideoGame/DeadRising Frank West]] from ''Ultimate VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3'', he starts off weak but can level up the more he fights. He starts off as a weak Villager, but levels up to a Mercenary, and finally into a Hero. |
| 698 | *** '''=> Current status: none''' |
| 699 | ** '''Tsubasa''' |
| 700 | *** One of the main characters--and arguably the most iconic character--of ''VideoGame/TokyoMirageSessionsFE''. She'd be distinctive as the first lance wielder in Smash. |
| 701 | *** Her Final Smash would reference the iconic shot of her flying around Shinjuku in her pegasus chariot. |
| 702 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit''' |
| 703 | ** '''Byleth''' |
| 704 | *** The main character of ''Three Houses'', they could continue the trend of putting in the latest FE game's Avatar character into ''Smash'' for advertisement. However, their Sword of the Creator and the mechanics of ''Three Houses'' can allow them to stand out from the rest of the ''Fire Emblem'' characters, like how Robin has their BreakableWeapons and [[MagicKnight tomes]] and Corrin has their [[LovecraftianSuperPower Dragon Fang shapeshifting]]. |
| 705 | *** The Sword of the Creator isn't your run of the mill sword. It's a WhipSword, allowing Byleth to have range and power like Simon and Richter for their Smash Attacks. The dynamic ways that the Creator Sword is swung for abilities such as Ruptured Heaven also stand out compared to Simon and Richter's simple strikes. |
| 706 | *** In ''Three Houses'', any character can potentially use any weapon type if they are sufficiently educated. Byleth themselves is no exception, having no weaknesses in weapon type learning and strong suits in Swords, Authority, Brawling, and a hidden talent in Faith. Taking this into account, Byleth can use whatever weapon they so please in their moveset, from the classic weapon triangle of Swords, Axes, and Lances, to Reason/Faith magic and Brawling Gauntlets. This can give much needed variety to their moveset, as to avoid common fan complaints of "just another sword fighter". |
| 707 | *** Their alternate costumes, besides the traditional Red, Blue, and Green colors from other FE characters, can include yellow (for third party enemies), and their exclusive Enlightened One class that they gain towards the end of the first act of ''Three Houses'', teal-green hair included. |
| 708 | *** Their Final Smash can be called [[TitleDrop Three Houses]], involving summoning the three house leaders to unleash their classmates and battalions to obliterate the enemy. |
| 709 | *** Alternatively, their Final Smash throws the enemy right in the middle of [[spoiler: a three way fight between the nations of Fodlan, and the leaders simultaneously charge against one another, with the enemy unfortunately in their paths.]] |
| 710 | *** '''=> Current status: DLC''' |
| 711 | [[quoteright:335:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/logo-pikmin_210.png]] |
| 712 | * ''VideoGame/{{Pikmin}}'': |
| 713 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/6b7c7092e530013b49083f4b061edf6a.png |
| 714 | ** '''Louie''' |
| 715 | *** Maybe as a Ryu and Ken to Olimar? His Final Smash could summon the Titan Dweevil, with him at the helm. |
| 716 | *** '''=> Current status: Trophy''' |
| 717 | [[quoteright:109:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/965fb2323003ae5242589fb7691307bf.png]] |
| 718 | ** '''Alph, Brittany, or Charlie''' |
| 719 | *** One of the three captains from ''Pikmin 3'' will be a playable character. But to help separate them from Olimar, only they can use Rock and Winged Pikmin. Only Olimar can use White and Purple. Both can use Red, Yellow, and Blue. |
| 720 | *** Alternatively all four could be alternates for Olimar, like Villager and Wii Fit Trainer. All the captains in ''Pikmin'' are functionally similar and Winged (and thus presumably Rock) Pikmin are already being incorporated into Olimar's play style. |
| 721 | *** Alph will eventually become a separate clone character in a free DLC for ''[=SSB4=]''. Just like Dark Pit, Dr. Mario and Lucina who all started as a special skin early in development but who eventually became their own character as a "bonus" because the development team had enough time to do it, Alph could eventually become a clone character of Olimar with a slightly different moveset in a future update. He could be a lighter character and would use Rock Pikmin in some fashion (maybe replacing the purple Pikmin or spawning randomly like the Bob-omb for Peach). |
| 722 | *** Other possibility: the concept will expend in ''[=SSB5=]'' and all Olimar's palette swaps will be a different captain from ''VideoGame/{{Pikmin}}'' (like the Koopalings for Bowser Jr.): |
| 723 | *** Red: '''Olimar''' |
| 724 | *** Blue: '''Louie''' |
| 725 | *** Light Blue: '''Alph''' |
| 726 | *** Green: '''Charlie''' |
| 727 | *** Pink: '''Brittany''' |
| 728 | *** Black: '''Shacho/President''' |
| 729 | *** For the last two colors maybe Olimar's son (who was supposedly scrapped from ''Pikmin 2'') and [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3d/Pikmin_3_characters_concept_art.png "D" the scrapped 4th character from]] ''Pikmin 3'' who was supposedly recycled as the SS Drake. [[MythologyGag He could even]] [[BrainUploading be an android!]] |
| 730 | *** '''=> Current status: Alph [[PaletteSwap "playable"]] since ''Super Smash Bros. 4'' ; Brittany and Charlie as trophies''' |
| 731 | [[quoteright:335:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/logo-fzero_7685.png]] |
| 732 | * ''VideoGame/FZero'': |
| 733 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/8b48178a3ffc4f17cfcc0af397717356.png |
| 734 | ** '''Pico''' |
| 735 | *** Alien turtle hit man who wields pistols GunsAkimbo and was in the first game, why not? He also has an assault rifle. |
| 736 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit''' |
| 737 | [[quoteright:109:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/2da612987fd5c40f0661c67bb9eb74f5.png]] |
| 738 | ** '''Deathborn''' |
| 739 | *** The biggest bad the series has that could still be reasonably playable; he bosses Black Shadow around. |
| 740 | *** '''=> Current status: Trophy''' |
| 741 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/33bcfd67686f6fe54905906dad261979.png |
| 742 | ** '''Zoda''' |
| 743 | *** Has led multiple invasion attempts on Earth, is something of a standout villain that rules another planet, and is implied to be some kind of scientist. |
| 744 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit''' |
| 745 | [[quoteright:109:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/8f206703ccb2d0ec28d65e56cfc48a91.png]] |
| 746 | ** '''Don Genie''' |
| 747 | *** He is an arms dealer. That's good enough by itself. |
| 748 | *** '''=> Current status: none''' |
| 749 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/94b18e8a11dabc230592b0109fca6f88.png |
| 750 | ** '''Samurai Goroh''' |
| 751 | *** He's one of the most recognizable racers, and he was an Assist Trophy in Brawl. ...How the hell had he not been mentioned first? |
| 752 | *** '''=> Current status: Assist Trophy and Spirit''' |
| 753 | [[quoteright:109:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/175f23f16150389c8782c91f0f2c3672.png]] |
| 754 | ** '''Black Shadow''' |
| 755 | *** The series villain. |
| 756 | *** He could take Ganondorf's moveset, allowing Ganondorf to receive a new one. |
| 757 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit represented by Ganondorf''' |
| 758 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/e5210abd510b973bdead099745d2e0cb.png |
| 759 | ** '''Megan''' (''F-Zero: Maximum Velocity'') |
| 760 | *** She was the closest thing the game had to a protagonist, being the default character on the character select screen, and she's rumored to be a karate expert. Plus, [[UnexpectedCharacter who would see it coming?]] |
| 761 | *** '''=> Current status: none''' |
| 762 | * ''VideoGame/StarFox'': |
| 763 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/4e6e65e8ff12e505bd87dced4b69ad43.png |
| 764 | ** '''Krystal''' |
| 765 | *** With her staff, and the move-set from Star Fox Adventures, she would be more unique as a fighter than most other potential Star Fox characters. This would help even out the gender ratio as well. |
| 766 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit and stage cameo (Lylat Cruise), confirmed as an Assist Trophy in ''Ultimate''''' |
| 767 | [[quoteright:109:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/4efc2ec7733e253b58219f234a7e0d1b.png]] |
| 768 | ** There are other series with staff users less represented than Star Fox and plenty of females. No, there is only one recognizable Star Fox character left who can bring something unique to Smash Bros, only one has the brains, our favorite uncle '''Andross'''! |
| 769 | *** ...He's a '''floating head, hands, and brain'''. How the hell could he be a playable fighter? |
| 770 | *** By hovering across the ground and having a floaty jump like Mewtwo...wait. |
| 771 | *** '''=> Current status: Assist Trophy and Spirit''' |
| 772 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/0ae31a17af625723c351a5e5af089ec9.png |
| 773 | ** '''Leon''' |
| 774 | *** He could have {{Hollywood Chameleon}} powers, turning invisible for certain moves (it could even be hand waved as sufficiently advanced technology, given the setting), and have a tongue whip attack and tether grapple. Oh, and demon sniper! |
| 775 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit and stage cameo (Lylat Cruise)''' |
| 776 | ** '''Slippy Toad''' |
| 777 | *** I am absolutely serious. Slippy may be one of the most infamously annoying characters in video game history, but he's the only consistent member of Star Fox alongside his best friend. Even Falco went and bowed out for most of ''VideoGame/StarFoxAdventures''. He'd be slower but bulkier than the other Spacies with the exception of a higher jump and his moveset would be more centered around his mechanical skills than any martial arts training, using more gadgets and tools than his physically capable teammates. His Final Smash would ideally have him knock his enemies into the path of a Landmaster's cannon, with Slippy himself on the other end,[[labelnote:Trivia]]Slippy has a perfect five-star rating in Landmaster piloting in ''VideoGame/StarFoxAssault'''s Versus Mode.[[/labelnote]] but on the off-chance he gets in, he'll probably have the same Arwing Final Smash his friends have, possibly with some humorous flourish to it. |
| 778 | *** '''=> Current status: [=Trophy/Spirit=]''' |
| 779 | [[quoteright:335:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/logo-mother_1779.png]] |
| 780 | * ''VideoGame/{{MOTHER}}'': |
| 781 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/42933fefdcbdb36eaba5095bfc8159df.png |
| 782 | ** '''Ninten''' |
| 783 | *** He's the only main character from the trilogy we are missing as a playable character. |
| 784 | *** Potential for a unique moveset based on buffs and shields, given his lack of offensive psi. Recovery move can be 4th-D Slip, Side Special can be PSI QuickUp, like Ike's Quick Draw but with a combo at the end, etc. Also, he can use a boomerang at one point in the game, if this troper recalls correctly. |
| 785 | *** '''=> Current status: Stage cameo (Magicant) and Spirit''' |
| 786 | [[quoteright:109:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/d209176647cd9b9a1cad132fce78536d.png]] |
| 787 | ** '''Poo''' |
| 788 | *** Poo's only weapon in the game, the Sword of Kings, could allow him to mix PSI and swordplay together. |
| 789 | *** '''=> Current status: AssistCharacter for Ness in ''Ultimate.'' ''' |
| 790 | https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/2d19e1419ecc16f2a0943e4c56a8bffa.png |
| 791 | ** '''The Masked Man''' / [[spoiler:Claus]] |
| 792 | *** His sword moves and canon make him stand out from the other 2 Mother representatives. Not to mention he has his One Hit KO Lightning attack that could be used for a Final Smash. Also, it would be interesting if Lucas came back... |
| 793 | *** '''=> Current status: PaletteSwap for Lucas since ''4'' [[spoiler:(PaletteSwap for Lucas since ''Brawl'')]]''' |
| 794 | [[quoteright:109:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/248a948f399be5fada97564d3167fcb3.png]] |
| 795 | ** '''Porky''' |
| 796 | *** A major villain in both ''VideoGame/{{EarthBound|1994}}'' and [[spoiler:VideoGame/{{MOTHER 3}}]]. This makes him pretty important to the series as well as giving him relevance to both Ness and [[spoiler:Lucas]], two characters in Brawl. His inclusion would also add more villains to the line-up and show people that the MOTHER series is more than just psychic kids. |
| 797 | *** He's pretty pathetic on his own, admittedly, but his character has always relied on others or piloted machines to fight for him. So he could possibly pilot a mech and send out Pokey-bots like his boss form in the last game or [[spoiler:Pigmasks]]. He could also have a slew of technology-based attacks. He changes appearance pretty often during the series, allowing for plenty of ContinuityPorn in the form of alternate colors/costumes. There's his over-alps with white T-shirt look, his Black and Red pinstripe suit look ([[spoiler:he could be given blue skin in this costume as a reference to the final battle]]) and his [[spoiler:old, sickly, bed-ridden MOTHER 3 look.]] |
| 798 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirit (Absolutely Safe Capsule)''' |
| 799 | ** '''Duster''' |
| 800 | *** Much like Porky, Duster could be used as a non-psychic MOTHER character, using his various thief tools (like the wall staples and tickle stick) to have a moveset somewhat akin to Link's. |
| 801 | [[quoteright:335:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/5e982770c7ba7442d7b2e7db6576b52f.png]] |
| 802 | * ''VideoGame/PunchOut'': |
| 803 | ** ''Punch-Out'' is a long running series and considered a classic. '''Little Mac''' would probably be enough by himself but another reoccurring boxer like '''-r. Sandman''' or '''Bald Bull''' might not hurt... '''Mike Tyson''' for nostalgia? |
| 804 | *** As of February 13, 2013, Little Mac is '''confirmed''' for ''Super Smash Bros. 4''. |
| 805 | ** Even if [[PlayerVersusPlayer Giga Mac]] shows up, there are some reoccurring boxers like '''Great Tiger''' or '''King Hippo''' that might be different enough to squeeze in. |
| 806 | ** '''Doc Louis'''. He invented the Star Punch. |
| 807 | *** Jossed. While Doc Louis is present in the game, he only plays a role in Little Mac's taunts and victory poses. |
| 808 | ** '''King Hippo'''. He will be a member of TheRemnant organization "Neo-Subspace Army" led by Mother Brain in the 4th ''Super Smash Bros.'' game. |
| 809 | *** King Hippo and Eggplant Wizard working as Mother Brain's cohorts? [[WesternAnimation/CaptainNTheGameMaster I'm sensing a pattern here.]] |
| 810 | ** '''Aran Ryan''' |
| 811 | *** This guy is a complete lunatic, so seeing him in a fighting game would be hilarious. |
| 812 | [[quoteright:335:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/a8136da3d27cd201caf6800e56510ba4.png]] |
| 813 | * ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles1'': |
| 814 | ** If Operation Rainfall puts its money where its mouth is, main character '''Shulk''' may become playable to further cash in on it. His abilities are better for an assist trophy but he could be playable with some creativity. There are lots of swordsmen to compete with but unless you believe AllSwordsAreTheSame his might be different enough, he'd be able to swing two extendable {{Laser Blade}}s after grabbing a beam sword. |
| 815 | *** The gameplay of ''Xenoblade'' is heavily focused around buffs, nerfs and status effects, with the Monado playing a key role in a great deal of that. If included, this Monado-wielder could therefore potentially be focused around rotating out various buffs to his stats. In fact, with the revelation that players can customize their characters with various items, buffing either attack, defense or speed while nerfing a second stat of those three, Shulk might be a character who can illustrate what boosting a given stat can do, ''outside'' of the domain of customizable characters. Monado Enchant would boost attack, Monado Shield would boost defense, and Monado Speed [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin would boost speed]], perhaps with another stat being nerfed for each one accordingly, and another move (Monado Purge?) removing all active buffs/nerfs entirely. |
| 816 | *** Shulk is heavily implied to be included by [[http://www.ssbwiki.com/list_of_rumors#E3_2013.2FGematsu_leak the Gematsu leaks]]. |
| 817 | *** After the leak, Shulk was confirmed as of August 29, 2014. |
| 818 | ** Or just skip the main character and choose someone who does have abilities with obvious use in a fighting game, '''Dunban'''. [[RunningGag He can replace Ike]]. |
| 819 | ** Huge spoilers here: [[spoiler:'''Fiora''']] |
| 820 | *** Don't read if you haven't beaten ''Xenoblade''. [[spoiler:Being a cyborg who dual wields knives, uses energy attacks, and carries attack drones, Fiora has a ''ton'' of gameplay potential. She's a playable character in ''Xenoblade'' who plays a big role in its story, and is another female character to boot.]] |
| 821 | *** '''=> Current status: Added to Shulk's Final Smash in ''Ultimate'' along with Dunban and Riki. Take that, ArbitraryHeadcountLimit!''' |
| 822 | ** '''Melia Antiqua''' |
| 823 | ** ''VideoGame/XenobladeChroniclesX'' has two possible representatives, '''[[PlayerCharacter Rook/Cross]]''' and '''[[{{Deuteragonist}} Elma]]'''. |
| 824 | *** '''Rook''' would be the best choice to represent the game as a whole, as they can [[AllYourPowersCombined combine movesets from the rest of the party.]] The downside is that they [[FlatCharacter don't have much of a personality outside of player choices]], and after Robin, Corrin, and Byleth, yet another customizable player character might be too much. Rook makes no appearance at all in the base game of ''Ultimate'', while Elma, Lin, and Lao are all Spirits. This could go either way: Nintendo may just want to avoid [[CuttingOffTheBranches canonizing Rook's appearance]] if they're not slated to be playable, or they could be planning to make them playable after all. |
| 825 | *** '''Elma''' would be a more thematic choice, as her in-game combat style would be easy to translate into a ''Smash'' moveset and she has at least as much of a claim to "main character" status as Rook. Her problem is, she's already in the game as a Spirit and her ranged moveset might be too difficult to differentiate from Bayonetta (making her an [[MovesetClone Echo Fighter]] could solve this). Then again, with Min Min's addition, Spirits aren't ruled out, either. Plus, ''Super [[strike:Bash Sisters]] Smash Brothers'' always needs more badass ActionGirl[=s=]. |
| 826 | ** With ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles2'', we have '''Rex and Pyra''', who could work as an Ice Climbers-like pair, except that each character could attack independently: Rex would handle A-Button attacks and Smashes while Pyra's [[PlayingWithFire Fire Arts]] would be controlled with B. Pyra's alter-ego, Mythra, would be usable as an alternate costume, and [[spoiler: their shared SuperMode, Pneuma, would be Rex's Final Smash.]] |
| 827 | *** '''Current Status:''' Rex has his own Mii costume and he and Pyra both appear as Spirits (along with most of the main party: Nia, Morag, Tora, Zeke, Mythra, and Poppi). Sakurai explained that ''Xenoblade 2'' was a bit too recent for Rex to be fully playable in the base game, but the fact that the devs have given the game a nod means he might be on the short list for DLC consideration. |
| 828 | ** As an alternate to the above, '''Mythra''' could work as a separate character from Rex. While it might be unlikely for her to be a DLC in ''Ultimate'', it's worth mentioning Mythra's outfit was censored drastically despite not appearing physically, whereas Ann's model in Mementos wasn't altered at all despite featuring a similar element in her design. There's several instances in Xenoblade 2 where she fights competently on her own so having Rex or Addam present wouldn't be necessary, although they could still appear in a voice cameo, cheering her on during the fight (similar to Doc Louis with Little Mac), and during her Final Smash which would likely be Shining Arrow. |
| 829 | ** For bonus points, '''Pyra''' could be her Echo Fighter, and will have a fire effect on her attacks but be slower and heavier than Mythra. |
| 830 | ** Well, it looks like Rex got the Chrom treatment this time. Pyra and Mythra are '''Confirmed!''' |
| 831 | ** '''Noah''' from ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles3'' is a likely shoo-in for the next ''Smash'' game, given how he's the main protagonist of the next big installment. |
| 832 | *** '''Mio''' could also join Noah as a switch-in character like how Mythra is to Pyra. Considering how hard ''Xenoblade 3'' leans into the "best of 1 and 2" concept, and how well Noah and Mio complement one another [[BattleCouple both as characters and in combat styles,]] they'd be perfect as a combination of both the previous games' fighters. Noah would play similar to Shulk with slower but hard-hitting positional attacks and a StanceSystem with Lucky Seven, while Mio would be a fast-hitting evader like Mythra or Sheik. Their Final Smash(es) would also be a double-reference to Shulk and [=Pyra/Mythra=], starting with a Chain Attack involving the other four Ouroboros (Lanz, Sena, Eunie, and Taion) and ending with an [[FusionDance Ouroboros Order]] that changes depending on who you're controlling (Limits Unbound for Noah and Death By 1000 Cuts for Mio). |
| 833 | [[AC:Other]] |
| 834 | * ''VideoGame/GoldenSun'': |
| 835 | ** '''Isaac''': is the main character of the first game. His adept powers, dijini attacks, summons, class changing, items, and weapon unleashes would help him stand out from the other swordsmen. DishingOutDirt is something no playable fighter in Smash currently specializes in and all the main characters of Golden Sun (so far) do in their default class. In addition, Isaac's assist trophy status has seemingly been removed, at least in the 3DS version, hinting at there being a chance he's been promoted to playable status via DLC |
| 836 | *** '''Jossed;''' while his assist trophy was removed in both the 3DS and Wii U games, it was reintroduced in ''Ultimate''. |
| 837 | ** '''Felix''': is the main character of the second game and can turn into sand, something Isaac cannot do. |
| 838 | ** '''Matthew''': Same reason for Isaac, adept powers, dijini attacks, summons, class changing, items, weapons, and what Not. |
| 839 | *** Or he can replace Isaac's Assist Trophy. |
| 840 | ** Let's let the other elements have some fun. Right '''[[WellIntentionedExtremist Sa]][[PlayingWithFire tu]][[OurDragonsAreDifferent ros]]'''? '''[[CuteMonsterGirl Sve]][[BlowYouAway ta]]'''? '''''[[TheChessmaster A]][[MakingASplash L]][[AnIcePerson E]][[TheUnfought X]]?''''' |
| 841 | *** '''=> Current status: Alex [[Characters/SuperSmashBrosUltimate76To82 confirmed for DLC]] as a skin for [[VideoGame/{{Minecraft}} Steve.]] |
| 842 | * ''VideoGame/SinAndPunishment'': |
| 843 | ** '''Saki''': His international debut was practically in Smash Bros. Of the first game's player characters, he's the only one who transforms or displays other weird powers. |
| 844 | *** Jossed; Still an Assist Trophy. |
| 845 | ** '''Achi''': She's the only one to play an active role in both games. It would be hard to give her a faithful move set that did not give away the plot, but ''Sin and Punishment'''s selling point is being a frantic shooter, so knowing the plot wouldn't spoil that and Achi could fill move slots easily. |
| 846 | ** '''Isa''': He's not as quite versatile as Achi but has enough moveset potential, more than Saki has. Furthermore, he was the real protagonist of the second game, the other kid was just along for the ride. |
| 847 | ** ''VideoGame/SinAndPunishment'' will more than likely not have a representative, as when Saki was revealed as an Assist Trophy in the April 8th Nintendo Direct, he had a generic Smash Bros. icon. |
| 848 | * ''VideoGame/StarTropics'': '''Mike Jones''' and '''Zoda'''. |
| 849 | ** Mike, the hero, would come first obviously, and then his villain maybe, after him. Mike has many weapons to use and a psychic shock wave. Zoda's final clone has enough unique moves to bring to the Smash Bros. series, but could also adopt some elements of Mewtwo's style of gameplay so Pokémon would stop being made to fit it. |
| 850 | * ''VideoGame/EternalDarkness'': |
| 851 | ** '''Alexandra Roivas''' or '''Pious Augustus''' |
| 852 | *** They're probably too similar to have both of them, but they managed to make Lucas and Ness different enough, both isn't impossible. Being from ''Metal Gear'', Snake opened up the possibility for M-rated franchises. Alex has an enchanted shotgun, pistol, and throwing gladius. Pious is a LargeHam and has a bone staff. |
| 853 | *** Movesets could include summoning monsters or using spells. Their Final Smash could be summoning an Ancient or causing a Sanity Effect. |
| 854 | *** With ''Ultimate''[='=]s focus on making stat-altering moves easy to use and monitor, their neutral B could be devoted to changing Ancient alignments between Chat'turgha, Ulyaoth and Xel'lotath, altering the properties of their spellcasting. Perhaps a Mantorok alignment could be achieved under more special conditions. |
| 855 | *** '''Current Status:''' Alex is a Spirit. |
| 856 | * ''VideoGame/CustomRobo'': |
| 857 | ** '''Ray''' for being the first of the mascot robots, '''Ray 01''' for being the most popular of the mascot robots and the first to make it overseas, or '''Ray MK III''' for being the latest one. They all sport bombs, guns, and satellite weapons not used by anyone else so far and would come with the series's wacky stages. And, like Isaac mentioned above, Mk III is no longer an assist trophy in the 3DS version. |
| 858 | * ''VideoGame/NintendoWars'' |
| 859 | ** You could have a commanding officer with moves based around their supports ('''Andy''' with blow torches and nail guns because he repairs stuff, for example) or even a generic grunt (using ''VideoGame/BattalionWars'' weapons maybe) or mix the two somehow. All sorts of stage and Final Smash possibilities too. |
| 860 | ** '''Kaiser Vlad''', any '''Solar empress''' or '''solar grunt''' could be a Qa-Len's staff bearer too if ''Battalion Wars'' didn't have enough weapons already. |
| 861 | * ''VideoGame/{{Excite}}'': |
| 862 | ** Specifically from the bot racing game. They would be highly unorthodox between the transforming, dart throwing, poker playing, and butterfly catching already, but a large character with a running speed comparable to Sonic the Hedgehog would be interesting. '''Frog''', '''Bat''', and '''Beetle''' are the defaults, so likely one of them. Ivysaur has opened the door for non bipeds and non humanoids. |
| 863 | * ''VideoGame/{{Cubivore}}'': |
| 864 | ** No references to the game in ''Brawl'', but Alpha has a trophy in ''Melee''. The player character would be the best choice as '''Chicky''' from the bird run after becoming the killer cubivore. He could use the most powerful mutations for his attacks and use the boss's specials too, as he could be handwaved as being able to use them after taking the final boss's title. |
| 865 | * Wii Games, '''Mii''': |
| 866 | ** They can be Custom Characters with some of their own abilities, like Swordplay (for close-range), Archery (for long-range,) and using Jetpack (for its Up move). |
| 867 | ** If not, they can replace the Fighting Alloy Team. (And be Called ''Fighting Mii Team'') |
| 868 | *** Both of these have been confirmed; players can customize their Miis to a [[BareFistedMonk series]] [[CoolSword of]] [[ArmCannon archetypes]] and have them fight based upon their chosen theme, and the Miis from the player's console also appear as the game's multi-man opposition (even being called Fighting Mii Team). |
| 869 | * ''VideoGame/{{Arcana}}'': |
| 870 | ** '''Rooks'''. He's the main character of the game. Not likely to be a first choice, as his moves may be too similar to the more recent and more successful Golden Sun characters and he's another swordsman. His moves are not identical, though, and his greater focus on cards could have him play differently enough to be the Golden Sun character's old school counterpart. If nothing else, Rimsala has a wicked enough design to justify being a boss. |
| 871 | * ''VideoGame/KabukiQuantumFighter'': |
| 872 | ** '''Colonel Scott O'Connor'''. Everyone's forgotten about it, but his game did end on a sequel hook. No one else in ''Smash Bros'' so far attacks with their hair, and if they play up the bizarre parts of him enough, maybe he could get a virtual console sequel? |
| 873 | * ''VideoGame/JoyMechFight'': '''Sukapon'''. |
| 874 | ** It was a fighting game on the Famicom, not released outside of Japan, but Sukapon had fairly strong demand to be in ''Brawl'' in Japan. Sora said at the time they couldn't figure out how to do a FloatingLimbs character. Since they've had plenty of time since to think about it, Sukapon could appear in a future title. |
| 875 | *** Confirmed as an Assist Trophy in ''Ultimate''. |
| 876 | * ''VideoGame/TheLegendaryStarfy'': |
| 877 | ** '''Starfy''' has already appeared as an assist trophy and could possibly have a moveset to work with. |
| 878 | *** Jossed; Still an Assist Trophy. |
| 879 | * ''Videogame/ProWrestling'': |
| 880 | ** A fighting game that hasn't had any references in ''Super Smash Bros.'' but lines from it are [[AWinnerIsYou quoted]] in other Nintendo games. '''Great Puma''', '''Giant Panther''', '''Amazon''', is there a reason anyone from that game couldn't work? |
| 881 | * ''VideoGame/{{Geist}}'': |
| 882 | ** Tabuu looks too much like a Geist ghost, either it was planned from the start as some kind of {{foreshadowing}} or someone at Nintendo will notice the similarities and that will put thoughts in people's heads. At the very least, '''John Raimi''''s ghost would be an interesting assist, but his human form has more than enough to work with to be playable in a Smash Bros game. There are some multiplayer stages that would translate well into Smash Bros. stages too. |
| 883 | ** As an Assist Trophy, he could either possesses an enemy and fight the other opponents with you, or attempt to force the possessed enemy to KO themselves. Either way, the possessed will still have some control left over their characters and can break free of his control. |
| 884 | * ''VideoGame/BalloonFight'': |
| 885 | ** '''Alice''' from ''VideoGame/BalloonKid'', utilizing her balloons to give her extra recovery. |
| 886 | * ''VideoGame/CluCluLand'': |
| 887 | ** Bubbles. She could have a very unique gameplay: she would always charge forward and the only way to stop her would be her Neutral-B which make her pivoting around a pole ; the moment you release the B button she resume her forward path in the direction she is facing. She would not have any smashes, but her tilts would be very powerful in balance and she would have a high priority on most of her attacks. |
| 888 | * ''VideoGame/PanelDePon'': |
| 889 | ** Either '''Lip''' or '''Furil''', because we haven't had enough PDP around lately (or at all, if you're American or European). She'd fit the nostalgia theme of the game well considering the series has been around for seventeen years, at least. Since the Lip's Stick is already an item, flowers, block-dropping, and maybe panels would be incorporated into her attacks. |
| 890 | ** Lip's stick could easy be replaced by another bludgeon item, one with a similar effect or something completely new yet equally wacky (Another Panel De Pon tool even). |
| 891 | ** This is true, though you have to consider that Kirby has a similar case with the Star Rod. |
| 892 | * ''VideoGame/SpaceDemon'': |
| 893 | ** Both it and ''Space Firebird'' were developed by Nintendo R&D 1 and between the two games the '''Space Demon''' might have enough moves to work with. True, he might be a little on the large side but unlike Ridley, it doesn't have a Samus to be in proportion with so it could be scaled down like Olimar was scaled up. The demon could call on space fighters, spiders and fragmentation bombs for special attacks and even summon the space Firebirds. (or failing playable character, a surprise boss) |
| 894 | * ''VideoGame/MoleMania'': |
| 895 | ** Shigeru Miyamoto wanting it is good enough for some kind of mention in the future. But if the Ice Climbers can get a playable spot, '''Muddy''' could get one too. He can roll bombs or cannon balls, do suplex-like standing throws and no one else has mole claws. |
| 896 | * ''VideoGame/JettRocket'': |
| 897 | ** '''Jett''' would be amazing character. He has his Dash attack, his Dive attack, his Jetpack, and various vehicles like the Jetski, Hoverboard, and Parachute. He can also throw bombs and has various sidekicks like Chiefo and Rudolpho the dolphin. Plenty of things to make a moveset with. |
| 898 | * ''VideoGame/TheLastStory'': |
| 899 | ** Given the competition, main character '''Zael''' would most likely be an assist character but as a playable fighter, he has a shot at replacing Young/Toon Link. He has a sword, can wall jump, shoots a crossbow and could even use bombs if Sora so pleased. He would still be more distinct as other moves would have to be used in place of the boomerang and triforce slash. |
| 900 | * ''VideoGame/TomatoAdventure'': |
| 901 | ** Some of '''[=DeMille's=]''' requests interested Sakurai during the polling, so it is likely the game will get referenced in the future and [=DeMille=] might even become playable. He may need to be toned down a little since he seems to mostly fight at range but his gimmicks could still be interesting. |
| 902 | * ''VideoGame/PandorasTower'': |
| 903 | ** '''Aeron''' is fairly manly compared to a lot of other RPG choices, wields multiple weapons in ways not seen by any of the current fighters even when there is overlap, has a couple interesting Final Smash options thanks to cut scenes and multiple charge combos. |
| 904 | * ''VideoGame/TheMysteriousMurasameCastle'': |
| 905 | ** '''Takamaru''' |
| 906 | *** It's obligatory for Smash Bros. to include a "Japan only" character. Ever since Marth lost this title, Takamaru could easily fit the bill. His series was also represented in ''Nintendo Land'', so he's still relevant. |
| 907 | *** Jossed. Confirmed for assist as of July 27, 2014. |
| 908 | --->'''Current status: Assist Trophy and DLC Mii Costume''' |
| 909 | * ''VideoGame/MachRider'': |
| 910 | ** He had a trophy in Melee that seemed more detailed than most, and much like the Ice Climbers, he had only appeared in a single game, and since they managed to make the Ice Climbers work, Mach still might have a chance. They could be creative with his moveset, giving him things like a chain whip, a laser blaster, and grenades. His Final Smash could be of him hopping on his [[CoolBike motorcycle]] and riding around the stage, shooting the other players up. |
| 911 | * ''VideoGame/KungFuMaster'': |
| 912 | ** '''Thomas''' from Kung Fu Master. He's a martial arts master so the moveset pretty much written for him. His Final Smash could be flooding the stage, drowning everyone [[SuperNotDrowningSkills except him]], which would allow him to fight other players for a short period of time without any competition. |
| 913 | * ''VideoGame/AnotherCode'': |
| 914 | ** '''Ashley Robins''': While not as obscure as VideoGame/WiiFit Trainer, she'd still be interesting. |
| 915 | * ''VideoGame/CookingMama'': |
| 916 | ** Cooking Mama herself, because another female Smasher with a weird fighting style, and [[UnexpectedCharacter unexpectedness abound]]. |
| 917 | * ''VideoGame/{{Pushmo}}'': |
| 918 | ** ''Pushmo'' has gotten fairly popular as a downloadable eShop title, especially because of its LevelEditor. '''Mallo''' could be a MightyGlacier working with grab attacks, allowing him to continuously pierce shields. |
| 919 | ** He could use totems from ''Ketzal's Corridors'' in some of his attacks, as a shout-out to his fellow eShop puzzle-game. Actually, he could serve a CompositeCharacter for all Nintendo puzzle-games (minus of course ''Panel de Pon'''s Lip) |
| 920 | * ''Videogame/FossilFighters'': |
| 921 | ** '''Dynal''', being an antagonist in the first game, a bonus boss in the next, and for being a flying sauropod with an antimatter beam. |
| 922 | * ''VideoGame/RhythmHeaven'': |
| 923 | ** '''The Chorus Men'''. How would they play? Who knows. Why are we even discussing it? Because, like Chrom and Shulk, they are heavily implied to be included by [[http://www.ssbwiki.com/list_of_rumors#E3_2013.2FGematsu_leak the Gematsu leaks]] that correctly predicted almost[[labelnote:*]](Rosalina was not predicted, and only the very-broad "Pokémon from ''X''/''Y''" was listed, instead of Greninja explicitly)[[/labelnote]] every character reveal in advance. Somehow. (In addition, ''Rhythm Heaven'' enemies appear in Smash Run...) |
| 924 | ** '''Karate Joe'''. For a game series consisting of a bunch of different minigames he's been in every game so far, making him one of the more notable characters and one of the more likely ones to be chosen. Besides, Rhythm Heaven is one of the biggest Nintendo series to not yet be represented by a fighter, stage or assist trophy. |
| 925 | *** '''=> Current status: Spirits''' |
| 926 | * ''VideoGame/{{Splatoon}}'': |
| 927 | ** '''Inkling'''. This one is ''extremely'' unlikely for ''Smash 4'' itself, since that would hinge on the idea that the ''Smash'' team knew about ''Splatoon'' before they were done finalizing the character roster for the main game... but the idea of a character making a mess on the stage by shooting ink everywhere and using that ink to get around the stage quickly is too good an idea to pass up, not to mention the game itself is a fresh new IP from Nintendo that's gained insane popularity since its reveal. Maybe one will be DLC if ''Smash 4'' decides to use it later down the line (which is apparently going to happen according to the Gematsu leak) or he/she ends up being an assist trophy and ends up playable in a future installment. |
| 928 | *** To add to this, Inkling will be the first newcomer revealed for Smash 5 with an introduction of the Female Inkling splattering the arena as well as Mario, Link, Kirby, and Pikachu with orange paint. |
| 929 | ** Possible moveset: |
| 930 | *** Jab: fire off a few rounds with the default weapon, the Splattershot |
| 931 | *** Side Tilt: fire a single shot from a Jet Squelcher-family weapon, with higher range and damage output |
| 932 | *** Down Tilt: change into a squid and charge a short distance in the direction Inkling is facing |
| 933 | *** Up Tilt: hop into the air and fire off a round vertically |
| 934 | *** Side Smash: throw a Burst Bomb |
| 935 | *** Down Smash: fire a Slosher at the ground, once on each side |
| 936 | *** Neutral Air: fire several shots from the Splattershot, with recoil causing Inkling to spin |
| 937 | *** Forward Air: fire one of the Blaster weapons in the direction Inkling is facing |
| 938 | *** Back Air: fire a Blaster weapon behind Inkling |
| 939 | *** Down Air: throw a Splat Bomb at the ground that deals impact damage to opponents and explodes after a set time |
| 940 | *** Up Air: rapid-fire the Splattershot vertically |
| 941 | *** Neutral Special: hold down the Special Attack button to produce a Charger-class weapon and guide an on-screen reticle with the control stick; releasing the Special Attack button fires a shot at the reticle's location |
| 942 | *** Side Special: fire a wave of ink with a Roller-class weapon and charge across the stage, able to change direction horizontally |
| 943 | *** Down Special: hold down the control stick and tap the Special Attack button to rev up a Splatling-class weapon; releasing the control stick unleashes a barrage of ink in the direction Inkling is facing that can be guided vertically |
| 944 | *** Up Special: use Super Jump, causing splash damage at the place where it's used and damaging anyone Inkling hits on the way up |
| 945 | *** Final Smash: Turf War. Akin to King Dedede's Waddle Dee Army in "Brawl," two teams of Inklings (one matching your Inkling's color) with assorted weaponry appear on the stage and start to battle, damaging any opponent caught in the crossfire. For the finale, your Inkling fires off an Inkstrike at the stage, simultaneously damaging opponents and blowing away the enemy Inklings; allied Inklings despawn shortly afterward. Alternatively, transport any opponent you hit within a certain time period to a ''Splatoon'' arena in the middle of a Turf War. |
| 946 | ** Inklings have a lot of potential for alternate skins as well. Aside from the vast array of combinations of gender, skin color, eye color, clothing, and ink color (which could also be randomly assigned as in ''Splatoon'' itself), each alt could use different weapons of the same classes for its moves (one uses a regular Splattershot, another uses the Splattershot Pro, etc.). In this case, and all cases concerning standard attacks, the difference would be purely cosmetic. Or, different weapons within a class could be used for its custom Specials: if Neutral Special 1 uses the Splat Charger, 2 could use the Squiffer, and 3 could use the Scope Charger, with accompanying differences in stats. There are so many ways they could go with this one. |
| 947 | ** So this guess is probably several years old and long after the Wii U game has been "completed" but as of March 08th 2018, This guess is now '''Confirmed'''. |
| 948 | * ''Yūyūki'': |
| 949 | ** '''Goku''', no not [[Franchise/DragonBall that Goku]], the character from an obscure Japan-only [[Platform/NintendoEntertainmentSystem Famicom]] game. He appeared in ''VideoGame/KirbysDreamLand3'' so it'll be a reunion with Kirby and they aren't enough staff wielding monkeys on the roster. Although it'll be [[TrollingCreator funny]] if demand for [[Franchise/DragonBall that other Goku]] got Nintendo's Goku instead. |
| 950 | * ''Pilotwings'': |
| 951 | ** '''Lark'''. Considering Pilotwings has a stage, and that Pilotwings 64 was a launch title (depsite being neglected in that stage and [=SSB4=] by extension - just like its fellow launch title)... |
| 952 | * ''Wave Race'' |
| 953 | ** '''Ryota Hayami'''. Wave Race 64 was one of the first N64 games, and it sold well by the console's standards. Oh, and it too was neglected in [=SSB4=]. |
| 954 | * ''1080° Snowboarding'' |
| 955 | ** '''Rob Haywood'''. |
| 956 | * ''VideoGame/TokyoMirageSessionsFE'' |
| 957 | ** '''Itsuki Aoi'''. While the game's heroine, Tsubasa, is a spirit, the hero himself is nowhere to be found. His alternate palettes will be based on the game's other Mirage Masters. |
| 958 | |
| 959 | |
| 960 | [[WMG:''Super Smash Bros 4'' will have more fanservice]] |
| 961 | * ''Super Smash Bros.'' has already had some fanservice because of Snake's butt and Samus's butt and Peach using her butt for some of her attacks, plus her breasts were upgraded in Brawl compared to Melee. Plus now we might have guest fighters from Teen or M rated titles. With the art director of Soul Calibur working on this game, some fanservice increase could happen, but with some restraint and not going too overboard, just enough to meet Nintendo's standards for what's okay but still pushing the envelope. |
| 962 | ** Confirmed to an extent; some of the characters' alternate costumes are fairly revealing (Zero Suit Samus' Zero Mission/Fusion alternates, Shulk's swimwear costume). |
| 963 | |
| 964 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/BatenKaitos Kalas]] will join the... whatever it is this time.]] |
| 965 | The ownership of BK isn't clear from a quick check (though Monolith's website shows very BK3 images), but Nintendo was very heavily involved, and with Monolith being one of the major contributors to Brawl and consider BK very important to them. Plus he could have an interesting role in any story modes, either recognizing the face behind Master/Crazy Hand (see up) or the whole [[spoiler:is actually TheMole despite being the main character]]. |
| 966 | |
| 967 | [[WMG: A Primid will be a playable character.]] |
| 968 | Something of a meta extension to the previous WMG, if there is a Smash Bros exclusive character, it will be a Primid [[MythologyGag and his different colorations will be different colors/shapes of his eyes.]] |
| 969 | * Problem is, just changing the eyes won't make it easy to tell two different Primids apart in-game. |
| 970 | ** '''Jossed;''' Primids make no appearance in the game whatsoever. |
| 971 | |
| 972 | [[WMG: There will be a character who is a DittoFighter.]] |
| 973 | And each time he's KO'd, he changes his fighting style. |
| 974 | * '''Jossed.''' |
| 975 | |
| 976 | [[WMG:''Super Smash Bros. 4'' will have post-release DownloadableContent.]] |
| 977 | [[http://imgur.com/a/Gmctm These sets]] [[http://imgur.com/oy0GXfG,NzSyEjq,NpGMOYO,mbHux1z of images]] were found in the 3DS version's data, respectively grouped in icons reserved for characters and stages; implying that there will be multiple screens' worth of both for players to go through. As both characters and stages currently fill one page each, the only way these icons would be relevant would be if DLC fleshed out both to the extent that both character and stage select screens needed multiple pages to display them on. In addition, several highly requested characters, such as [[Franchise/{{Metroid}} Ridley]] and [[VideoGame/GoldenSun Isaac]] have no data whatsoever in the 3DS version, not even trophies, which can be interpreted as them and their respective details being saved for use as downloadable characters. Lastly, the version of Smash 4 that can be downloaded onto the 3DS says it takes up a bit over 9000 blocks of memory; the cartridge version has almost twice that amount, leaving [[http://i.imgur.com/PtfcSVM.png a total of almost a thousand blocks of memory left unaccounted for]]; memory that can be filled in with DLC characters and stages, potentially even items. |
| 978 | * Late on this, but DLC was confirmed. Aside from some stages and Mii Fighter gear, Mewtwo, Lucas, Roy, Ryu, Corrin, Cloud, and Bayonetta were available this way. |
| 979 | |
| 980 | [[WMG: There will be an ''SSB'' game where you can play a character from ''VideoGame/AnimalCrossing''.]] |
| 981 | The AC franchise is extremely popular in both Asia and the US, and the game has been referenced several times in SSB before. Mr. Resetti can be summoned, there's a pitfall item, there's an AC battle stage, and there are plenty of pieces of music from AC as well. The playable character would possibly be Tom Nook or KK Slider. |
| 982 | ** '''Confirmed''' through the Villager and Isabelle. |
| 983 | |
| 984 | [[WMG: A character who is well known in the West but obscure in Japan will be in the next Smash]] |
| 985 | This is so that fans outside of Japan will be shown appreciation by the developers, [[MarthDebutedInSmashBros especially after mentioning so many Japanese exclusive titles in the last few SSB's that most people outside of Japan haven't heard before.]] A good character related to this is mentioned above. |
| 986 | * Little Mac could count as this. |
| 987 | |
| 988 | [[WMG: ''[=SSB4=]'' will have a DanceBattler]] |
| 989 | Since the fourth game is going to have [[VideoGame/WiiFit a character who fights by striking Yoga poses]], a character who fights by ''dancing'' would definitely work as well. I can think of two possible choices for a DanceBattler... |
| 990 | #Jimmy T. from ''Franchise/WarioWare'' |
| 991 | #Ryuta Ippongi from ''VideoGame/OsuTatakaeOuendan'' and/or Agent J from ''VideoGame/EliteBeatAgents'' (palette swap?) |
| 992 | #Olivia from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' |
| 993 | |
| 994 | [[WMG: The Trophy Quizzes in the Smash Direct were foreshadowing new characters.]] |
| 995 | * Tiki: A ''Fire Emblem'' character to foreshadow a new Fire Emblem Awakening character (Chrom, Lucina, or Robin). |
| 996 | * Fi: A character from ''Skyward Sword'' to foreshadow Ghirahim or Demise... or Groose. |
| 997 | * Pseudo-Palutena: Self-explanatory (Palutena). |
| 998 | * King Kihunter: A boss from ''Metroid'', foreshadowing Ridley. |
| 999 | ** So far, this WMG holds some water, as [[VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising Palutena]] and [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Lucina and Robin]] were revealed to be playable. |
| 1000 | |
| 1001 | [[WMG:''Dragalia Lost'' will join the character roster in DLC]] |
| 1002 | ''VideoGame/DragaliaLost'' has been a surprise hit on both sides of the pond for Nintendo and Cygames. What better way to add Smash Bros representation than by adding in the main character of that game, Euden? His Final Smash would be channeling the [[OurDragonsAreDifferent Greatwyrms]] to blow away the competition. Now that it's been a year since the game has been around, one of his palette swaps would be his [[LightEmUp Gala version]]. |
| 1003 | |
| 1004 | Going on almost 3 years... we can now add one of his alternate skins would be [[EnemyWithout Nedrick]], who also happens to be [[spoiler:the original Euden.]] |
| 1005 | |
| 1006 | [[WMG:[[VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG Mallow]] will be the final fighter.]] |
| 1007 | Imagine this. The video opens on Battlefield, and Mario and a Mii Fighter in the Geno costume do their entry animations. Five seconds pass, and nothing happens... until the Royal Bus sweeps down and Mallow hops out from inside it. The crowd goes absolutely fucking nuts. |
| 1008 | [[/folder]] |
| 1009 | |
| 1010 | [[folder:Echo Fighters]] |
| 1011 | [[WMG: Dark Samus, for Samus]] |
| 1012 | There are two signs pointing towards Dark Samus being in ''Ultimate''. Firstly, her [[AssistCharacter Assist Trophy]] has not been confirmed to appear in the game. While it is possible her Assist Trophy was not fully ready to be shown at the demo, videos showing all demo character [[PaletteSwap alternate costumes]] have shown that Samus's eighth recolor [[note]] which a Miiverse post outright stated was based on Dark Samus [[/note]] has been altered, notably replacing the light blue on the costume with orange. Even though it seems like some characters will be having more than eight alts, [[note]] Meta Ridley appears in Ridley's reveal trailer and isn't available in the demo as a costume. [[/note]] when Dark Pit was introduced in the fourth game, Pit's Dark Pit recolor was altered to differentiate the two. Also, Ridley's victory theme is a more intense version of the standard Metroid victory theme instead of something specific to Ridley himself, like how Dark Pit received a remix of his theme. This could mean it belongs to Dark Samus as well, similar to Bowser and Bowser Jr sharing themes. As for how she'd work, she'd obviously be a [[MovesetClone Echo Fighter]] for Samus, although they could give her one or two moves from her Assist Trophy appearance. |
| 1013 | * '''=> Current status: CONFIRMED!''' |
| 1014 | |
| 1015 | [[WMG: Octoling, for Inkling]] |
| 1016 | as an Echo Fighter for the Inkling. Based mostly on Agent 8 from the ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'' Octo Expansion, but with some alternate costumes based on the enemy Inklings from both games. This one would primarily serve to include more ''Splatoon 2'' weapons in the moveset, since the Inkling is more of a representative of the first game. Though as an Echo Fighter they probably couldn't be weapons that are too dissimilar to what the Inkling uses. Their Final Smash would be the Stingray rather than the Killer Wail. |
| 1017 | * The biggest issue regarding Octoling is that the Inkling characters themselves are brand new. Other Echo Fighters are based on characters that existed in a previous game and therefore familiar with veterans of ''Smash'' games. Lucina is based on Marth and Daisy is based on Peach, both characters who debuted in ''Melee'' while Dark Pit is based on Pit, who was introduced in ''Brawl''. |
| 1018 | |
| 1019 | [[WMG: Shadow the Hedgehog for Sonic]] |
| 1020 | Was an Assist trophy in Brawl and Smash for Wii U and 3DS. However Knuckles is revealed as an assist trophy in ''Ultimate'' but Shadow was not. With the reveal of [[MovesetClone Echo Characters]], Shadow could be one to Sonic. |
| 1021 | * It would be kind of neat if his final smash was Chaos Control, which works like how it did when he was an assist trophy. |
| 1022 | * '''=> Current status: Assist trophy in Ultimate.''' |
| 1023 | |
| 1024 | [[WMG: Ken for Ryu]] |
| 1025 | Ken is the most well known MovesetClone of fighting games. So it would make a load of sense to introduce Ryu's main rival to Smash. |
| 1026 | * '''=>Current status: Confirmed''' (But this was a gimme). |
| 1027 | |
| 1028 | [[WMG: Dixie Kong for Diddy Kong]] |
| 1029 | Along with King K. Rool, she is one of the most popular requests for another ''Donkey Kong'' rep, and there's the presence of dummied data related to her in ''Brawl''. None of Diddy's tail moves have been seen yet, a possible sign they've been removed to account for Dixie's lack of tail. |
| 1030 | With Chrom borrowing Aether from Ike despite being a Roy Echo, this opens the door for Dixie borrowing DK's Spinning Kong for her recovery and possibly his Ground Slap for her Down-Special, so that she can make use of her hair. |
| 1031 | |
| 1032 | [[WMG: Ninten for Ness]] |
| 1033 | It would be neat to have all three ''VideoGame/{{Mother}}'' protagonists together in the same game, with an Echo Fighter being the perfect way of doing this without requiring too many resources. Plus, ''VideoGame/EarthBoundBeginnings'' received an international release on the Platform/WiiU, meaning Ninten wouldn't be completely unfamiliar to non-Japanese players. Ninten would probably receive a slight redesign so he'd be easier to distinguish from Ness during battle. |
| 1034 | * '''=>Current status: Spirit and Stage Element''' |
| 1035 | |
| 1036 | [[WMG: Dark Bowser for Bowser]] |
| 1037 | Not only would this give the ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi'' series more representation, it would fit the bill as much as Dark Pit; as it's an EvilKnockoff of the original character, hence he would use the same moves. Several of Dark Bowser's attacks would have purplish flare effects to them, and his fire breath would be bright blue-purple flames. Provided that Bowser's voice gets changed to Kenny James later, Dark Bowser could retain the original {{Kaiju}} sound effects, and his Final Smash would be the cage attack that he uses during his boss fight. |
| 1038 | |
| 1039 | [[WMG: Each series would only be allowed one Echo Fighter.]] |
| 1040 | So far, there are three known Echo Fighters and each represents a different series: Dark Pit for the Kid Icarus series, Lucina for Fire Emblem and Daisy for Super Mario Bros. This may mean that there won't be another Echo Fighter representing that series, so no Chrom as an Echo Fighter for Ike as there's already an Echo Fighter representing the Fire Emblem series. |
| 1041 | * Jossed as Chrom IS an Echo Fighter (but for Roy). |
| 1042 | |
| 1043 | [[WMG: Other ''Castlevania'' Characters]] |
| 1044 | Simply put, there will be a whole bunch of other whip-wielding characters folded into the general playstyle of Simon and Richter. More specifically, they'll be other members of the Belmont family--fittingly enough--such as Trevor and maybe a few others. Good luck, John Morris and Nathan Graves. |
| 1045 | * '''=>Current status: Spirits''' |
| 1046 | |
| 1047 | [[WMG: There will be an Echo Fighter for all third-party characters.]] |
| 1048 | In order to prevent possible bias for ''Castlevania'', all other third-party characters will receive an Echo Fighter. |
| 1049 | |
| 1050 | [[WMG: Ike's Echo Fighter will be one of the ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses'' characters.]] |
| 1051 | Well, I mean, Roy and Corrin both appeared in Smash before their games came out to promote said games, may as well carry on with this one. Byleth seems the most obvious choice but Edelgard could possibly be workable. |
| 1052 | |
| 1053 | [[WMG: Skyward Sword Impa for Sheik]] |
| 1054 | Sheik's Final Smash is no longer the Light Arrow (something often associated with Zelda), instead being a darkness-based Omnislash-like attack with the Sheikah symbol appearing in the background during it. Impa is the Sage of Shadow and also a Sheikah. She saw a big rise in popularity around 2015 thanks to her ''Hyrule Warriors'' appearance, not too long before the roster for ''Ultimate'' was being decided. They'd pick the ''Skyward Sword'' incarnation due to best matching Sheik's build while also giving ''Skyward Sword'' a playable design, one of the only 3D Zeldas currently without a playable representative. |
| 1055 | * '''=>Current status: Spirit''' |
| 1056 | |
| 1057 | [[WMG: Malos from ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles2'' for Shulk.]] |
| 1058 | As a fellow wielder of a Monado that uses many of the same Monado Arts,there couldn't be a better match for an Echo for Shulk. His Monado Arts would have much more drastic changes to his stats and his other specials could pulls from his Arts pool when using both Sever's Sword Tonfa and his own Monado Aegis Sword. If Rex and Pyra also got in, it would fit ''Smash Ultimate''[='=]s Heroes/Villains theme and get all three Trinity Processor Core Crystals in one place. With the recent release of ''Torna: The Golden Country'', Malos's notoriety would be at its peak. |
| 1059 | * This could be a possibility for ''Smash 6'' given Malos' popularity as a villain and the fact that a unique ''Xenoblade'' character slot would be reserved for [[VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles3 Noah or Mio]]. |
| 1060 | * '''=>Current status (as of Pyra and Mythra's reveal): Spirit''' |
| 1061 | |
| 1062 | [[WMG:Crow for Joker]] |
| 1063 | Making him an Echo Fighter in a future installment or a future DLC if there's more fighters added after the Fighter's Pass makes the most sense as far as additional playable Phantom Thieves are concerned especially as it would explain his absence in Mementos and during Joker's Final Smash[[spoiler:, there's also the fact that he was deliberately designed to be a parallel to Joker, and as such is also a wild card user. Since him being Black Mask has become a LateArrivalSpoiler, it's very likely he'd have his Black Mask outfit as his alt costume.]] His Final Smash would function like Luigi's Final Smash in Brawl[[spoiler: as a reference to his ability to inflict psychotic breakdowns in people, with him calling upon Loki to activate it.]] |
| 1064 | |
| 1065 | [[WMG: Bellsprout, Weepinbell or Victreebell for Piranha Plant]] |
| 1066 | Living plants with poison-based attacks? check. Another plant-based Pokemon to rival Ivysaur? check. |
| 1067 | |
| 1068 | [[WMG: Blood Falcon for Captain Falcon]] |
| 1069 | He's another evil clone and one of the most recognozable bad guys of his franchise. He may have different minor animations and change the fire effects of Captain's moveset for something else, and use his vehicle instead of the Blue Falcon for his final smash. |
| 1070 | |
| 1071 | [[WMG: Roxas for Sora]] |
| 1072 | If Sora returns in ''Smash 6'', Roxas would make a very easy, effective and fitting Echo Fighter for him, using tweaked moves and animations based on his own playable appearances in the ''Kingdom Hearts'' games. He'd have both his Twilight Town outfit and his Organization XIII cloak as costumes, with his TT outfit having a palette swap that [[IdenticalStranger looks like]] [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep Ventus]]. |
| 1073 | |
| 1074 | [[/folder]] |
| 1075 | |
| 1076 | [[folder:New Characters (Bandai-Namco)]] |
| 1077 | |
| 1078 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/SoulSeries Nightmare]] may be playable in the next SSB.]] |
| 1079 | After all, Link appeared in ''SoulCaliburII''. It'd be a hell of a lot cooler than VideoGame/PacMan as a Namco rep, that's for sure. |
| 1080 | * Link went to the Soul Calibur world because of Soul Edge threatening Hyrule, so Soul Edge could be a threat to the SSB world. |
| 1081 | ** Voldo's movements are pretty wild, as is Ivy's whip-sword. Though the bondage gear might have to be toned down, at least for the default costumes. |
| 1082 | |
| 1083 | [[WMG:''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'' characters will get in ''[=SSB4=]''.]] |
| 1084 | * Tales of Symphonia and Tales of Symphonia Dawn of the New World are one of the few games that are on a Nintendo console. Lloyd is well known character as a result and will most likely get in given that Namco is working with Project Sora on the game. Alternatively, they might also pick a second character like Emil from the sequel or go with the EnsembleDarkHorse of the franchise Kratos, Sheena or Zelos (for the first game) or Richter and Alice (for the second game). |
| 1085 | ** Other Tales representatives could include [[VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia Cress]], [[VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss Luke]], or [[VideoGame/TalesOfGraces Asbel]]. |
| 1086 | ** Llyod has been confirmed to appear as a costume for the Mii Fighters. |
| 1087 | ** Tales of Symphonia's battle controls feel like they were built for Smash: 2D movement, different attacks based on which direction the control stick is pointing, standard attacks and special attacks, finishing moves (in the form of Unison Attacks and Secret Artes), and more special moves than can be equipped at once (even if you disregard upgraded and combo variants). Furthermore, the S and T branches for special attacks are prime custom Special material. It translates perfectly into Smash Bros, and the characters themselves are unique and quirky enough for any one of them to get in (although it should definitely be Lloyd). |
| 1088 | -->'''Current status: DLC Mii Costume''' |
| 1089 | |
| 1090 | [[WMG:''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss'' Luke Fon Fabre will be in ''[=SSB4=]''.]] |
| 1091 | * Since TOTA is the most current Tales game released on a Nintendo Platform, it would make sense to include him (However polarizing he and his game are to the Fanbase.) at least for the 3DS version. To add him into the game would take a lot less effort than most other characters, as he already has a full model, animations for most of his actions (Attacking, blocking, backstepping, flinching, ECT.), and his quotes could easily be ripped from the 3DS version of TOTA a la [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid Grey Fox]]. The only trouble would be to choose which four Artes to give him for his special attacks, but I think I've found a good mix: |
| 1092 | ** Normal B: Ranging Blast: A close-range blast of red energy that knocks foes backwards and stuns them. Can be charged to increase damage, knockback and stun duration. |
| 1093 | ** Side B: Havoc Strike: Basically a clone of falcon kick but without the fire and more horizontal movement when used in mid-air |
| 1094 | ** Up B: Fang Blade: A quick slash followed by an uppercut. Starting slash is omitted in mid-air to allow for a recovery move. |
| 1095 | ** Down B: Rending Thrust: A quick thrust followed by a grounded uppercut with Luke's off hand. |
| 1096 | * Each one of Luke's special attacks has the unique ability to change into a more powerful elemental attack if they are used right after being hit by several elemental attacks over the course of about 15 seconds(If you don't follow, then this might help: |
| 1097 | ** Raging Blast becomes Frigid Blast |
| 1098 | ** Havoc Strike becomes Burning Havoc (Fire) |
| 1099 | ** Fang Blade becomes Lighting Tiger Blade (Wind or Electric) |
| 1100 | ** Rending Thrust becomes Rending Quake (Earth) |
| 1101 | * His Final Smash would be based on Lost Fon Drive, his [[LimitBreak Mystic Arte]]. |
| 1102 | Other notable features would include a unique shield based on the Magic Guard and Guardian skills, and the ability to cancel knockback with extremely good timing and skill. |
| 1103 | |
| 1104 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia Yuri Lowell]] will be the Tales Rep of Smash. ]] |
| 1105 | * Yuri Lowell is the most popular Tales character along with [[VideoGame/TalesofDestiny Leon Magnus]] to the point they were banned from the popularity polls. Yuri, Estelle, and Flynn also appeared in both installments of ''VideoGame/ProjectXZone''. And now Vesperia [=PS3=] is being ported to all current 8th gen consoles including the Nintendo Switch, so putting him in Smash would be a great way to promote the game. |
| 1106 | ** There would likely be nods to Project X Zone with his interactions with Lucina and Ryu in pictures and his hypothetical newcomer trailer. |
| 1107 | |
| 1108 | [[WMG: VideoGame/{{Klonoa}} will be selected if Pac-Man isn't.]] |
| 1109 | He's a platformer/mascot-ish character, so he'd fit in pretty well. |
| 1110 | |
| 1111 | [[WMG: VideoGame/PacMan will be a playable character]] |
| 1112 | * It may almost be a given, but it might as well be listed; the ''VideoGame/PacManWorld'' games would help to bolster his moveset. |
| 1113 | ** There's also the sheer awesomeness of making Pac-Man fight Game & Watch. |
| 1114 | ** Confirmed at E3 2014. |
| 1115 | |
| 1116 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/DigDug Taizo Hori]] ]] |
| 1117 | * He's nearly as iconic as VideoGame/PacMan in regards to Namco, and he could utilize his drill and pump. |
| 1118 | |
| 1119 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/{{Tekken}} Heihachi Mishima]]]] |
| 1120 | * Namco likes putting him in as much games as they can, including crossovers within their own properties and other companies. |
| 1121 | ** He does appear as a costume for the Mii Fighters. |
| 1122 | -->'''Current status: DLC Mii Costume, Spirit, and Background character for Mishima Dojo''' |
| 1123 | |
| 1124 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/{{Tekken}} Jin Kazama]]]] |
| 1125 | * He is Namco's main representative in Project X Zone, and he was on the cover of the yet to be released Tekken X Street Fighter. |
| 1126 | -->'''Current status: Spirit (can evolve into Devil Jin), and PaletteSwap for his father, Kazuya''' |
| 1127 | |
| 1128 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/KatamariDamacy The Prince]]]] |
| 1129 | * Katamari-based combat would be pretty fun, and it'd open up things for the King of All Cosmos to be an assist/distraction/what-have-you. His costumes could either be random Presents or some of the other cousins. |
| 1130 | |
| 1131 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/TheTowerOfDruaga Gilgamesh]] ]] |
| 1132 | * He's practically a secondary mascot for Namco, along with Pac-Man. Also, admit it... [[CoolVsAwesome Gil vs. Link would be badass]]. |
| 1133 | ** He could also be another duo character with his girlfriend Ki. |
| 1134 | ->'''Current status: DLC Mii Costume''' |
| 1135 | |
| 1136 | [[WMG: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valkyrie_no_Densetsu Valkyrie]]]] |
| 1137 | * Along with Pac-Man, Dig Dug, and Gil, she too is practically a mascot for Namco, but her first game was on the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valkyrie_no_B%C5%8Dken:_Toki_no_Kagi_Densetsu Famicom!]] She's practically as much Nintendo as Mega Man is. |
| 1138 | |
| 1139 | [[WMG: Nintendo and Namco are plotting something related to a Soulcalibur character joining]] |
| 1140 | * It is pretty obvious that everybody knows about the Gamecube version of Soulcalibur 2 being the most successful mainly due to Link being a GuestFighter. That being said, it seems suspicious of Namco to NOT port the HD Online version of Soulcalibur 2 to the Wii U and write it off as "lack of demand." Now consider that Namco is assisting Nintendo with the new Smash Bros. game. It could be possible that Namco would "conveniently" announce an HD version for the Wii U ([[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny the desire to finally see Link go up against]] [[VideoGame/{{Tekken}} Heihachi]] and ComicBook/{{Spawn}} aside) ALONG with an announcement of a Namco representative in the new Smash Bros. game. Granted, it could be any Namco character (Mario vs. Sonic vs. Mega Man vs. Pac-Man anyone?), but considering Soulcalibur 2's place in Nintendo's history... |
| 1141 | |
| 1142 | Factor in characters' fighting styles, personalities and popularity, odds are we might see Nightmare. |
| 1143 | |
| 1144 | [[WMG:''VideoGame/WonderMomo''.]] |
| 1145 | With Namco-Bandai trying to revive the series, this would be the perfect way to drum up interest. |
| 1146 | |
| 1147 | [[WMG: [[Franchise/{{Digimon}} Agumon]] will appear.]] |
| 1148 | * If the previous game was able to include [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog Sonic]], why not Agumon. He would make a pretty good rival to [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Pikachu]], as Agumon himself is the mascot of his own series. Agumon's Final Smash would be his Mega-digivolved form, Wargreymon. |
| 1149 | |
| 1150 | [[WMG: [[Franchise/{{Gundam}} Haro]] will appear in next ''SSB''.]] |
| 1151 | Given Haro's autonomous, yet sentient robot characteristics, plus its appearance in ''VideoGame/SDGundamGGeneration'', it's undeniably that Haro will appear in the next SSB game. Also, the [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED Pink-Chan]] (a pink Haro) can be a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute to Franchise/{{Kirby}}, but with different movesets. |
| 1152 | * Haro will use the same movesets as Haros in ''VideoGame/SDGundamGGeneration''. Its Final Smash will be God Haro, hilariously. |
| 1153 | |
| 1154 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/TheIdolmaster Haruka Amami]] will appear.]] |
| 1155 | As the face of classic ''[=iM@S=]'', Haruka has a high chance of representing the franchise as a whole (second only to [[VideoGame/TheIdolmasterCinderellaGirls Uzuki Shimamura]] in notoriety). She's also no stranger to {{Massively Multiplayer Crossover}}s, as her appearance in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsXOmega'' can attest. Plus, it has the advantage of being a left-field pick: while decently popular in its own right, the dev team would have to think fairly creatively to implement her home game's RhythmGame elements. |
| 1156 | |
| 1157 | [[WMG: Alternatively, [[VideoGame/{{Aikatsu}} Ichigo Hoshimiya]] (featuring moves from other characters) will appear.]] |
| 1158 | The face of Aikatsu, and the anime actually features action and moments that can be translated to Smash well (such as the infamous axe). Aikatsu games that aren't the arcade games are also exclusively on the 3DS, a Nintendo handheld. |
| 1159 | * An alternative would be a customisable idol a la the Mii Fighters, being able to choose between all the school uniforms across the series, and Data Cardass card compatibility, allowing the player to scan their cards for the arcade game to give the idol their favourite coord combination. |
| 1160 | |
| 1161 | [[WMG: Champion Gundyr from ''VideoGame/DarkSouls3'' may be DLC in Smash Bros, but only if Nintendo and Bandai Namco can secure a special deal]] |
| 1162 | If Bandai Namco can port the the rest of the Dark Souls games like Dark Souls 3 to the Switch, Champion Gundyr can be a playable character in Smash Bros. Anyone who fought him would know what is being discussed here. |
| 1163 | * Besides, how epic would it be to hear his main theme in the reveal trailer and see him rushing down other fighters in battle with his mighty spear and back kicking his opponents out of bounds in the Cemetery of Ashes? (The screams of horror of players who fought him can be heard in distance. |
| 1164 | [[/folder]] |
| 1165 | |
| 1166 | [[folder:New Characters (Capcom)]] |
| 1167 | |
| 1168 | [[WMG: [[Franchise/AceAttorney Phoenix Wright]] will be in the fourth game...]] |
| 1169 | ...where he will be voiced by [[Webcomic/BrawlInTheFamily Matthew]] [[Theatre/TurnaboutMusical Taranto]]. |
| 1170 | |
| 1171 | I literally cannot think of even ''one'' reason why this wouldn't be awesome as hell. |
| 1172 | * He's already in ''Ultimate VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3'', so it seems like an inevitability for him to be in [=SSB4=]. |
| 1173 | ** I wouldn't say that Phoenix Wright is inevitable. Mega Man's already confirmed for [=SSB4=], possibly being the main Capcom representative, and Wright's appearance in ''Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3'' would actually decrease his chances of getting in, since he's already had time in the fighting game spotlight. Still, I also wouldn't say he's impossible. The Ace Attorney series has mostly stayed on Nintendo consoles (I say "mostly", because the three first games have gotten PC and mobile phone ports), and there's no rule preventing two third-party characters from the same company getting in the same game. |
| 1174 | *** But would he work decently in smash ? He has nothing viable as a moveset in his home series and even his guest appereance in ''Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom'' doesn't bring enough material. How would he be able to recover for example? By shouting 'OBJECTION'? Wouldn't it be too weird? |
| 1175 | |
| 1176 | [[WMG: WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck will be in ''[=SSB4=]'']] |
| 1177 | The developers said they were interested in having Capcom characters, and Capcom was responsible for a lot of Disney's games! Of course, Donald's Final Smash would be an epic tantrum! |
| 1178 | * [[Webcomic/{{Dolan}} Accualy Dolan]] |
| 1179 | ** Given Sakurai's [[WordOfGod comments regarding characters who are not originally from a video game]], this is Jossed. |
| 1180 | *** Slightly Jossed as of [[Franchise/KingdomHearts Sora's]] inclusion as the final [=DLC=] character; Donald is referenced in one of Sora's palette swaps as his Wisdom Form color. |
| 1181 | |
| 1182 | [[WMG: Mega Man]] |
| 1183 | * And Dr. Wily. |
| 1184 | ** Dr. Wily's more likely to be a boss, but Bass could work as a playable character. |
| 1185 | * Honestly, I don't see why Mega Man won't be in, unless Capcom doesn't give permission for Nintendo to use one of their characters. He's got a massive number of weapons that could be used for moves (the Mega Buster, Rush Adapters, and at least 86 boss weapons (8 from Mega Man 2-10 and Mega Man and Bass, plus the original 6, plus any other ones that I might have missed), he's an iconic figure (he was Capcom's mascot at one point -- not so sure about now) who played a large role in Nintendo history (the classic Mega Man, at least, is basically synonymous with the NES), and it would help to [[WinBackTheCrowd restore some of the public's faith in Capcom]] after some of their controversial decisions as of late. At the very least, you'd think it would make up for Mega Man's blatant exclusion from [[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3 MvC3]]. Sure, most of Mega Man's attacks are projectile-based, but if they can come up with a moveset for Captain Falcon, they can make the Robot Master weapons work in Smash Bros. |
| 1186 | * Confirmed. Mega Man will be playable in Smash 4. Along with a set of weapons and the [[VideoGame/MegaMan1 Yellow]] [[ThatOneBoss Devil]]! |
| 1187 | ** As for Wily, '''Spirit''' and '''Assist Trophy''' for [[ThatOneBoss Wily]] [[VideoGame/MegaMan7 Capsule]]. |
| 1188 | |
| 1189 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/{{Okami}} Amaterasu]] will be in the next SSB game.]] |
| 1190 | She would be an interesting character to play due to her diverse range of abilities and weapons. Amaterasu has already been made into a fighting game character in ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3'', so the developers could use that as another basis for her moveset. ''VideoGame/{{Okami}}'' is a highly praised Capcom game that had a [[VideoGame/{{Okamiden}} sequel]] released recently, and [[http://allisbrawl.com/blogpost.aspx?id=114836 there's talk that Sakurai may team up with Capcom for SSB4]], so there's a decent possibility that this could happen. |
| 1191 | |
| 1192 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/MegaManX X and Zero]] will appear in ''[=SSB4=]'']] |
| 1193 | Sure, Sakurai may have a [[MemeticMutation reputation]] as a TrollingCreator, but he did say he wanted to see Capcom characters appear. Given how X never got put in ''Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3'', Sakurai'd probably like to throw his fans a bone and include him AND Zero. |
| 1194 | ->'''Current Status: Part of Mega Man's Final Smash(X) and Assist Trophy(Zero)''' |
| 1195 | |
| 1196 | [[WMG:[[Franchise/StreetFighter Ryu]] and Ken will appear.]] |
| 1197 | * Also, maybe Chun-Li and [[JokeCharacter Dan]]. |
| 1198 | ** There's a glimmer of hope for Ryu as DLC, as an updated added his theme and victory theme from ''Street Fighter II'' in the game's codes. This doesn't necessarily mean he'll make it, but at least it heavily implies that Sakurai is considering it. |
| 1199 | ** Confirmed. Ryu joins as a playable character, Ken appears as a trophy. |
| 1200 | *** Double Confirmed: Ken has joined the SSBU roster as Ryu's Echo Fighter, but Chun-Li and Dan are both Spirits. |
| 1201 | |
| 1202 | [[WMG:''VideoGame/{{Darkstalkers}}'' [[MemeticMutation won't be dead]].]] |
| 1203 | * [[CatGirl Felicia]] and [[SuccubiAndIncubi Morrigan]] would be the most likely candidates (and sadly, would be [[{{Bowdlerization}} toned down considerably]]. Alternatively, [[EnsembleDarkhorse Jon Talbain]] could appear to round things out. |
| 1204 | ** Pyron's particle effects would look amazing with the new graphics. |
| 1205 | *** Felicia and Morrigan (or even Li Li or Q-Bee or Lilith) might not be toned down, since it'd finally give SSB a real reason for the Teen rating unlike all the other games. Plus we already have Snake and Samus's butts. |
| 1206 | ** Not sure about Felicia, but Morrigan seems to have a knack for appearing in crossover games. In fact, Morrigan's probably appeared more times in crossover games (the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' series, ''VideoGame/TatsunokoVsCapcom'', ''[[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNKMillenniumFight2000 Capcom vs. SNK]]'', ''VideoGame/NamcoXCapcom'' and ''VideoGame/ProjectXZone'', ''VideoGame/CrossEdge'', and even ''VideoGame/SuperPuzzleFighterIITurbo'') than she has in her own series (though to be fair, there are only about three games in her series). Even though at the time of this edit, Mega Man has been confirmed for the fourth game, it wouldn't be surprising if Morrigan was added in as well just for the hell of it. |
| 1207 | |
| 1208 | [[WMG:Leon S. Kennedy will be in to represent ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil4''.]] |
| 1209 | * Resident Evil 4 was considered a big reason to own the Gamecube back in the day. If Snake's license doesn't get renewed for the new game, then there's a chance Leon could replace him and take over his moveset. Even if Snake returns, Leon could get in as a Luigi/Wolf/Lucas/Ganondorf-style clone counterpart to Snake. |
| 1210 | * Other Franchise/ResidentEvil choices: |
| 1211 | ** Ada Wong for the same reason, maybe? If Chun Li of ''Street Fighter'' didn't join, give Ada Wong a chance to represent AnimeChineseGirl fighters. |
| 1212 | ** Chris Redfield. Yes, he's in the very-first [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil1 Resident Evil]] game as well as its [=GameCube=] remake, and we had [[VideoGame/ResidentEvilTheMercenaries3D The Mercenaries 3D]] for 3DS as well. You can have him as a counterpart to Leon (if he joins). |
| 1213 | ** What about Chris' sister, Claire? She can kick anyone's ass as well. As much as Samus or Bayonetta can do, in a different way. |
| 1214 | * At the time of writing, Leon, Jill, Chris, and Wesker are all currently Spirits in ''Ultimate''. |
| 1215 | |
| 1216 | [[WMG:''VideoGame/ViewtifulJoe'' will be in the game.]] |
| 1217 | * His series was intended to be Nintendo exclusive, and the first game remains one of the most critically acclaimed for the Gamecue to this day. Also, he's got a lot of moves that could fit in well with the Smash formula. |
| 1218 | |
| 1219 | [[WMG:Sir Arthur will be in the game.]] |
| 1220 | * ''VideoGame/GhostsNGoblins'' has been on many Nintendo platforms. Arthur has a decent enough amount of weapons to make a moveset. If he were to get in, Firebrand could be an Assist Trophy. |
| 1221 | *** '''=> Current status: DLC Mii Costume and Spirit''' |
| 1222 | |
| 1223 | [[WMG:Mike Haggar will be in the game.]] |
| 1224 | * ''VideoGame/FinalFight'' helped the SNES, and it would be interesting to have a primary grappler in Smash Bros. |
| 1225 | |
| 1226 | [[WMG:[[VideoGame/DeadRising Frank West]] will be in the game.]] |
| 1227 | * Because this is the Website/TVTropes WMG page, where every freaking idea will come into play, for no particular reason. |
| 1228 | |
| 1229 | [[WMG:[[VideoGame/GhostTrick Sissel]].]] |
| 1230 | Of course, him appearing as a playable character might be a bit problematic as they entail some massive spoilers for that game... [[spoiler: Since the red suited guy on the cover ''isn't actually Sissel''.]] He might make an interesting assist trophy though. |
| 1231 | |
| 1232 | [[WMG:[[VideoGame/MonsterHunter The Monster Hunter]].]] |
| 1233 | With Monster Hunter being popular on the Nintendo 3DS, not to mention that Monster Hunter XX is coming to the Nintendo Switch, it would make sense for the player character to be in this game! On top of that, we have not just the original Monster Hunter games, but also [[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcomInfinite Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite]] to search through for a moveset for him/her! |
| 1234 | ->'''Current status: Rathalos appears as an assit trophy and a Boss, with DLC Mii Costumes representing the Hunters.''' |
| 1235 | |
| 1236 | [[WMG:''Smash Bros.'' will feature Dante from the ''VideoGame/DevilMayCry'' series]] |
| 1237 | Since ''VideoGame/DevilMayCry5'' is going to be a [[{{Pun}} smash hit]], Capcom can also capitalize on this by putting our favorite Devil Hunter into this game. Besides, Creator/HidekiKamiya would finally see his dream of Dante and Bayonetta facing off fulfilled. As well, [[VideoGame/DevilMayCry1 the first game]] is coming to Switch, which increases his chances given [[https://www.gameinformer.com/2019/02/08/devil-may-cry-director-says-if-smash-bros-fans-want-dante-ask-capcom-for-his-games-on Itsuno's comments on the matter]] at a time when the Switch port was likely in development. |
| 1238 | ->'''Current status: DLC Mii Costume''' |
| 1239 | |
| 1240 | [[WMG: [[Franchise/ResidentEvil Nemesis]].]] |
| 1241 | He's easily one of the most iconic monsters of the ''Resident Evil'' franchise and would make an excellent rep. Nemesis' appearance in Smash would be lifted from the [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil3Remake RE3 remake]]. |
| 1242 | [[/folder]] |
| 1243 | |
| 1244 | [[folder:New Characters (Sega)]] |
| 1245 | !!''Sonic the Hedgehog'': |
| 1246 | [[WMG: The [[ComicBook/SonictheHedgehogArchieComics Post-SGW version of Princess Sally Acorn]]]] |
| 1247 | Look, we already had Capcom adopting Strider Hiryu from a Manga to a Fighting Game, so why not SEGA to do the same? She could function like a mixture of [[VideoGame/{{Soulcalibur}} Talim]] and be a female version of [[VideoGame/{{MarvelVsCapcom}} Wolverine]] in terms of Gameplay style. |
| 1248 | Imagine Tara Strong as her and it would be an ActorAllusion for her voicing a Princess and a BadassAdorable Heroine with a Squirrel motif. |
| 1249 | * Problem: the criteria for getting into Smash includes originating from a video game. Not only has Sally not originate from a video game, her only appearance in a Sonic game was a small cameo in a non-canon spin-off game. Unless Sakurai ever changes his mind on that, don't bet on it. |
| 1250 | |
| 1251 | [[WMG: Shadow will appear as an Echo Fighter of Sonic.]] |
| 1252 | Though I think he has potential as a full character with his own moves, this makes more sense. Plus, Knuckles seems to be replacing him as an assist trophy. Hope springs eternal! |
| 1253 | * As shown with Chrom, the movesets of Echo fighters don't necessarily have to be 1:1 mirrors of their template character. This could very well mean the Shadow will be able to utilise several Chaos Energy-based moves in his arsenal while still sharing enough similarities with Sonic to qualify as an Echo fighter. |
| 1254 | -->'''Current status: Assist Trophy''' |
| 1255 | |
| 1256 | [[WMG: Miles "Tails" Prower.]] |
| 1257 | With his tail attacks, he would be pretty cool. |
| 1258 | * You forget the helicopter tails flight and his skills as a mechanic (he used a lot of gadgets to fight in ''VideoGame/SonicBattle'' -- there's no reason for him not to in SSB). |
| 1259 | ** As of ''Smash Bros For Wii U/3DS'', he's sadly deconfirmed. |
| 1260 | ** As of December 15th 2015, he does get a Mii Figher Costume along with Knuckles. |
| 1261 | * For ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'', the idea that he may be playable is being thrown around again. One reason is that he's conspicuously absent from Green Hill Zone's background. Knuckles is also absent, but he's been confirmed as an assist trophy. It's rare for Sonic and Knuckles to show up without Tails, so the idea that he's a playable character seems somewhat plausible (though it's also possible, and perhaps more likely, that he's also an assist trophy). |
| 1262 | ** Unfortunately, appears to be jossed again - He can still be seen in the background of Green Hill Zone in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBgTLfrGqwI this video]]. |
| 1263 | ** He isn't an assist trophy, though, while Shadow and Knuckles ''are''. This has led people to guess that he could be one of the five DLC characters released later on for ''Ultimate''. |
| 1264 | -->'''Current status: Background character, Trophy, Spirit, and DLC Mii Costume''' |
| 1265 | |
| 1266 | [[WMG: Doctor Eggman]] |
| 1267 | With the inclusion of Ridley, Dark Samus and K. Rool, a major theme of ''Ultimate''[='=]s newcomers appears to be something along the lines of "Rivals and Archnemeses". Whether or not Shadow gets included as Sonic's Echo fighter, the inclusion of Sonic's greatest villain would not only follow this theme, but also be a new character in his own right. As a fighter, he'll most likely be flying around in the Eggmobile, utilising various attacks derived from various Eggman boss battles throughout the franchise, with his Final Smash perhaps utilising one of his mech-based boss creations (the Death Egg Robot, Egg Emperor and Egg Dragoon spring to mind). |
| 1268 | -->'''Current status: Trophy and Spirit''' |
| 1269 | |
| 1270 | !!Other Franchises: |
| 1271 | [[WMG:''VideoGame/NiGHTSIntoDREAMS''.]] |
| 1272 | [=NiGHTS=] would work well as an assist trophy. He can use his paraloops and masks in his moveset. |
| 1273 | * Uh... the fact that [=NiGHTS=] ''never'' touches the ground -- and, indeed, can fly around freely within the game's 2D plane -- would make him a ''very'' poor choice for a playable character. |
| 1274 | |
| 1275 | [[WMG:''VideoGame/{{Bayonetta}}''.]] |
| 1276 | With the fact that the sequel will be a Platform/WiiU exclusive, Nintendo themselves is publishing and developing it hands on, the creator of Bayonetta himself interested with the idea of the titular character in Smash Bros, and Sakurai was caught inside Creator/PlatinumGames HQ, the possibility of Bayonetta being in Smash 4 seems very likely. Also, who wouldn't want to see [[CoolVsAwesome Pit fighting Bayonetta]] in a Smash Bros setting? |
| 1277 | * There's also plenty of material for the character in terms of alternate costumes, given that ''Bayonetta 2'' and the Wii U port of the original ''Bayonetta'' include exclusive Nintendo-themed costumes based on [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Peach]], [[VideoGame/SuperMarioLand Daisy]], [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link]], [[Franchise/{{Metroid}} Samus]], and [[VideoGame/StarFox Fox]]. |
| 1278 | * As of December 15th 2015 this is '''Confirmed'''. She's the ultimate winner of the Smash Bros Fighter Ballot. Her intro even features animosity towards the characters of ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising''. |
| 1279 | |
| 1280 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/BillyHatcherAndTheGiantEgg Billy Hatcher]] ]] |
| 1281 | Could be easily be a cameo or given an assist trophy for appearing on the Gamecube. |
| 1282 | |
| 1283 | [[WMG: VideoGame/AlexKidd.]] |
| 1284 | Either as an assist trophy or a Guest Fighter. |
| 1285 | |
| 1286 | [[WMG: VideoGame/{{Vectorman}}.]] |
| 1287 | Even I will admit that it's a long shot since Vectorman hasn't had any games in years, but he does have the advantage of already having a move-set that fits in with Smash Bros like a glove. |
| 1288 | |
| 1289 | [[WMG:[[VideoGame/SambaDeAmigo Amigo]].]] |
| 1290 | He'll be a DanceBattler. |
| 1291 | |
| 1292 | [[WMG:[[VideoGame/PhantasyStarI Alis Landale]]]] |
| 1293 | What other RPG was pushing the bounds and limits that wasn't ''VideoGame/DragonQuest'' or ''VideoGame/FinalFantasy''? Why, of course ''VideoGame/PhantasyStar''. Alis Landale was rather a big contributor to gaming heroines in TheEighties next to the likes like of [[Franchise/{{Metroid}} Samus Aran]] and such. In a time where finding heroines in an RPG was rather rare, to say the least. I'd say her moveset may consist of attacks based on the magic and Techniques featured within the series. |
| 1294 | |
| 1295 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/HouseOfTheDead Agent G]].]] |
| 1296 | G, Agent G. He always made appearances in every HOTD game, including the ''fuckin [[VideoGame/TheHouseOfTheDeadOverkill OVERKILL]]''. And some HOTD games were made for Wii. Why not give G a chance? Or the next SSB game will ''suffer like G did''. |
| 1297 | |
| 1298 | [[WMG:Joe Musashi from ''VideoGame/{{Shinobi}}''.]] |
| 1299 | Joe will have Hotsuma and Hibana as pallet swaps, like Bowser Jr and the Koopalings. |
| 1300 | |
| 1301 | [[WMG:Arle Nadja (with Carbuncle) from ''VideoGame/PuyoPuyo''.]] |
| 1302 | ''Puyo Puyo Tetris'' came out for the west in 2017 to much better than usual success, combined with being a great advertising tool and pretty popular in her home country, it could happen. |
| 1303 | |
| 1304 | [[WMG:[[VideoGame/ValkyriaChronicles Selvaria Bles]]]] |
| 1305 | Although she's one of the villains, she's been used as a representative of the series before. She's also one of the only major characters in the game who doesn't have a realistic gun, assuming Sakurai still wants to avoid that. |
| 1306 | |
| 1307 | [[WMG:[[VideoGame/{{Yakuza}} Kazuma Kiryu]]]] |
| 1308 | ''Yakuza'' has managed to become a major moneymaker for Sega as of recently, at least outside of Japan, where it still retains a large amount of popularity. It's worth noting that the first two installments in the franchise had been ported to the Wii U, and that Kiryu and Majima appeared in the ''VideoGame/ProjectXZone'' games. Considering that Kiryu's more speculated to join ''VideoGame/Tekken7'' than he is for ''Smash'', he'd hit a high mark of UnexpectedCharacter for everyone. |
| 1309 | [[/folder]] |
| 1310 | |
| 1311 | [[folder:New Characters (Konami)]] |
| 1312 | |
| 1313 | [[WMG: [[SeriesMascot Konami Man]] ]] |
| 1314 | |
| 1315 | He sent an e-mail to various characters inviting them to a race in ''VideoGame/KonamiKrazyRacers'' so he knows a thing or two about crossovers. |
| 1316 | |
| 1317 | [[WMG: Another ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' character ]] |
| 1318 | Such as Big Boss, Gray Fox, Liquid Snake, Psycho Mantis, or Colonel Volgin would be interesting. The Sorrow could do that [[BuffySpeak ghostly thingy]] he always does. |
| 1319 | * It would be nice if he got his foil in the game like Liquid Snake or Ocelot. Ocelot's Final Smash could be strapping his opponents into his torture machine. |
| 1320 | * Cybord Raiden as DLC. Just to have an excuse to import music from his game. Chances are incredubly slim since ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'' did not appear on an Nintendo system but anything's possible since Joker's announcement. |
| 1321 | |
| 1322 | [[WMG: [[Franchise/{{Castlevania}} Simon Belmont]].]] |
| 1323 | ''Castlevania'' is popular and Simon was in the NES ''VideoGame/{{Castlevania|I}}'' game -- arguably [[FirstInstallmentWins the most iconic of the series]]. The latest ''Castlevania'' installment for a Nintendo platform is ''[[VideoGame/CastlevaniaLordsOfShadowMirrorOfFate Lords of Shadow -- Mirror of Fate]]''. |
| 1324 | * As of 11 June 2013, '''''THIS MUST HAPPEN!''''' With Mega Man and Pit in the newest installments of ''Smash Bros.'', Simon's the only one missing from [[MythologyGag the origins;]] [[WesternAnimation/CaptainNTheGameMaster N-Team]]. (Bonus points if King Hippo comes in from ''Videogame/PunchOut''. Double Bonus if Eggy and Mother Brain are in as well.) |
| 1325 | ** A more specific guess: if Simon Belmont is a fighter, his reveal video will have him facing off against Link, Samus, Pit, and Takamaru. Why those four specifically? ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda, Franchise/{{Metroid}}, VideoGame/KidIcarus, Nazo No Murasamejou'', and ''Franchise/{{Castlevania}}'' were the first five games to be created exclusively for the Famicom Disk System. |
| 1326 | *** '''Jossed.''' The ''Castlevania'' reveal trailer focused strictly on the game itself and on Luigi. |
| 1327 | ** Not to mention we have been getting TONS of Castlevania games on Virtual Console. It only seems natural he'll appear eventually. Bonus points if Simon AND Dracula are chosen. If not Dracula than at least Alucard, who is the 2nd main protagonist of the series. In fact Alucard seems more likely, as I'm pretty sure Konami has to pay royalties to the estate of Bram Stoker to use Dracula's name (Unless public domain) If Nintendo chooses Alucard it would bypass that entirely. Konami could also bring in ''Lords of Shadow'' of Simon as well, if the original Simon didn't come up. |
| 1328 | * '''Current Status: Confirmed!''' Simon and Richter Belmont are playable characters, Alucard is an assist trophy, the castle itself is a stage alongside a bunch of enemies and Dracula himself appears as a boss. |
| 1329 | |
| 1330 | [[WMG: [[Franchise/{{Silent Hill}} Pyramid Head]]]] |
| 1331 | |
| 1332 | He can chop people up with that [[{{BFS}} big knife]] that he always carries. |
| 1333 | |
| 1334 | [[WMG: VideoGame/{{Bomberman}}.]] |
| 1335 | Saturn Bomberman aside, Bomberman's biggest and best games have always been on Nintendo systems, and he's made appearances on every Nintendo console and handheld to date. His cartoony explosives would make a good contrast with Snake's realistic ones (and speaking of Snake, it would be funny to have the two recognize each other from the Dream Mix Tournament). In the story mode, Bomberman could be chasing after Wario as part of an overly-long CallBack gag. He could also draw upon his Charaboms (mainly Pommy) and elemental bombs to compose his moveset, with the Bomber Gear from ''VideoGame/BombermanHero'' filling in the loose slots. Overall, Bomberman strongly deserves a spot on the roster, much moreso than any other third-party character besides Mega Man. |
| 1336 | * Also, his chances have grown due to the release of the Nintendo Switch-exclusive [[VideoGame/SuperBomberman Super Bomberman R]]. |
| 1337 | ** Bomberman is confirmed to appear as an [[AssistCharacter Assist Trophy]] but not playable yet. |
| 1338 | |
| 1339 | [[WMG:VideoGame/GanbareGoemon.]] |
| 1340 | |
| 1341 | Goemon is a ninja and ninjas are cool. |
| 1342 | * '''Current Status: DLC Costume''' |
| 1343 | |
| 1344 | [[WMG:''VideoGame/{{Contra}}''.]] |
| 1345 | |
| 1346 | Maybe Pfc. Bill Rizer or Pfc. Lance Bean. They have laser swords and laser swords are cool. |
| 1347 | |
| 1348 | [[WMG:''VideoGame/{{Gradius}}''.]] |
| 1349 | |
| 1350 | Vic Viper or BigBad Dr.Venom. |
| 1351 | |
| 1352 | [[WMG:''VideoGame/{{Boktai}}''.]] |
| 1353 | |
| 1354 | Solar Boy Django would make people [[MemeticMutation salute the sun]] better than Wii Fit Trainer could ever do. |
| 1355 | |
| 1356 | [[WMG:''VideoGame/RocketKnightAdventures''.]] |
| 1357 | |
| 1358 | Sparkster no doubt about it. |
| 1359 | |
| 1360 | [[WMG:''VideoGame/RumbleRoses''.]] |
| 1361 | |
| 1362 | Evil Rose since there is a lack of wrestling characters on the roster. |
| 1363 | |
| 1364 | [[WMG:''VideoGame/ZoneOfTheEnders''.]] |
| 1365 | |
| 1366 | Cage Midwell would use the [[AMechByAnyOtherName Orbital Frames]] in his final smash. |
| 1367 | |
| 1368 | [[WMG:''VisualNovel/TokimekiMemorial''.]] |
| 1369 | Shiori Fujisaki could use Yuina Himoo's robot or bomb-related attacks. |
| 1370 | |
| 1371 | [[/folder]] |
| 1372 | |
| 1373 | [[folder:New Character (SNK)]] |
| 1374 | |
| 1375 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/MetalSlug Marco Rossi]]]] |
| 1376 | Besides the fact that some entries and at least one compilation of the ''Metal Slug'' series appeared on Nintendo consoles, his gameplay is simple enough that it'd be easy to adapt to Smash. Plus there's a huge variety of exotic and explosive weapons to choose from, should the regular handgun and Heavy Machine Gun prove too offensive for Smash. The other Peregrine Falcons and Ikari Warriors can easily be included as skins for maximum representation. |
| 1377 | |
| 1378 | [[/folder]] |
| 1379 | |
| 1380 | [[folder:New Characters (Other Third Party)]] |
| 1381 | |
| 1382 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV Michael, Trevor and Franklin]] will be the next open-world shooter-fighters in a future ''Smash'' game.]] |
| 1383 | We already had Snake and Bayo pit against everyone, so why not? Nathan Drake is supposed to appear in Street Fighter X Tekken, but Cole [=MacGrath=] replaced him and so, they might be the next three BadassNormal fighters in a Smash Bros. game. |
| 1384 | * [[spoiler:I'd rather have [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas Big Smoke]] but that sounds cool too.]] |
| 1385 | [[WMG: Alternatively to the above, [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas Carl Johnson]]]] |
| 1386 | After all, not only San Andreas biggest and most popular game of the franchise aside from the obvious ones (ex. III, IV, Vice City and whatever) but it would both foreshadow a special remastered edition of the game for the Nintendo Switch (albeit with some elements being changed like the omission of the HotCoffee Mini-game, for obvious reasons) and to have a Battle of the Gunners match. Who wouldn't like to go toe to toe between Galeem against an African-American gangster with massively armed weapons? Don't forget to either hire Young Maylay (for a RoleReprise) or Creator/{{Phil LaMarr}} to voice him. We already saw Nintendo trying to break it's Kiddie Image for their Marketing for their games, so bringing the first and most iconic African-American Protagonist from the 3D Universe and to a lesser extent, the entire franchise would change history. |
| 1387 | |
| 1388 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption2 Arthur Morgan]] is a more likely Rockstar Character then the above guesses]] |
| 1389 | Westerns are very popular in Japan, with the samurai genre and westerns borrowing a lot of tropes from each other. Red Dead Redemption 2 was voted game of the year in Japan, and sold fairly well. Unlike GTA, Red Dead Redemption has never faced any controversy and Red Dead Redemption 2 has sold 35 Million copies internationaly. |
| 1390 | |
| 1391 | [[WMG: VideoGame/{{Shantae}} will be a playable character in the next ''SSB''.]] |
| 1392 | The character has a small but dedicated following, and with a new downloadable sequel and possibly a Wii U title coming out in the future, it would be a great way to publicize her. She already has a good set of attacks. She would have her hair whip, and of course, her belly dances to put her into different forms. |
| 1393 | * '''Jossed,''' but there's still hope: Nintendo is holding a character ballot to see who people would like to see as DLC. Plus, [[https://twitter.com/WayForward/status/584099935072587776 even WayForward themselves support the idea of her being in Smash.]] |
| 1394 | * She appears as a Spirit and DLC Mii Costume in ''Ultimate''. |
| 1395 | |
| 1396 | [[WMG:[[Franchise/TombRaider Lara Croft]] will guest star]] |
| 1397 | |
| 1398 | I don't know what her moves would be, but her role in the story mode would be cool and her partner in in the story will be VideoGame/{{Kirby}}. Here's an idea for the way they meet: Kirby, who has been looking for his lost warp star because he lost it earlier in the story, will be captured, then later an alarm goes off beacause Lara has broken in. She is looking for an artifact, and Kirby, who has broken out, is found by a guard, who aims at him, but Lara pulls a ClickHello and saves him. They escape, and later Kirby will return the favor. |
| 1399 | * [[Website/{{Newgrounds}} Perfect Kirby]] with Lara Croft in the place of [[VideoGame/PerfectDark Joanna Dark]]? Sounds interesting, if a bit implausible. |
| 1400 | |
| 1401 | [[WMG: If Solid Snake is any indication...]] |
| 1402 | |
| 1403 | We might be lucky to get another unexpected third party character in the next Smash Bros. Personally, [[Tropers/MightyKombat my]] vote is for [[VideoGame/FatalFury Geese Howard]], [[VideoGame/TalesofSymphoniaDawnOfTheNewWorld Emil Castagnier]], and [[VideoGame/DevilMayCry Dante]]. Well, hey, they let Snake in, and Metal Gear isn't exactly family friendly. |
| 1404 | * Creator/Suda51 has stated that he wants to see [[VideoGame/NoMoreHeroes Travis Touchdown]] in the next [[http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2009/07/suda_51_id_love_travis_touchdown_to_star_in_smash_bros Smash Bros.]] |
| 1405 | |
| 1406 | [[WMG:[[VideoGame/NoMoreHeroes Travis Touchdown]] will appear in the next Smash Bros. game]] |
| 1407 | Travis' fighting style makes sense (somewhat) with the Smash Bros. universe, since the combination of beam katanas and professional wrestling moves are pretty awesome already. He could probably take Snake's place if does appear, since it's overkill to have two Rated R game characters in a [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids supposedly "child-friendly" environment.]] Here are some ideas for his appearance: |
| 1408 | * As stated above, Travis would utilize his beam katana attacks for his main fighting style, preferably using the Blood Berry or Tsubaki Mk. III for fighting. He could use his wrestling moves for his throws, although I believe that Nintendo's going to have to implement a system that would allow a lot of his throws to be included. His death blows could be used as Smash Attacks. Personally, I would want to make sure that Travis' fighting style still retains its brutality, as opposed to the tame Nintendo cast. |
| 1409 | * He could use his ChargedAttack and his step-in slice for his standard and side special. The [[FlashStep Dark Step]] technique would be his down special while for his up special.... I'm sure [=Suda51=] has something in mind for that. |
| 1410 | * [[LimitBreak Dark]] [[SuperMode Side]] mode could be used as his Final Smash. The roulette can be used to determine a different attack (from slowing down time and increasing damage, to the sacred [[OneHitKO Anarchy in the Galaxy]]). |
| 1411 | ->'''Current status: DLC Mii Costume''' |
| 1412 | |
| 1413 | [[WMG:''VideoGame/Killer7''.]] |
| 1414 | |
| 1415 | The ''[=Killer7=]'' crew would make for an awesome cast. They are sort of a cult hit and showed up on both the Gamecube and [=PS2=]. With the Smiths you can switch between seven or more personals for several different playstyles and insane gameplay. |
| 1416 | |
| 1417 | [[WMG: Alternatively, [[Franchise/AssassinsCreed Ezio Auditore]] or [[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance Raiden]] will replace Snake.]] |
| 1418 | Both Ezio and Snake possess a lot of weapons and gadgets at their disposal. Plus, both Konami and Ubisoft are close with each other (just look at the various VideoGame/MetalGear[=/=]Franchise/AssassinsCreed crossovers), Kojima could recommend Ezio as a new character. On the other hand, Raiden in '''Revengeance''' seems to fit the fantasy setting of Smash Bros. as well. |
| 1419 | * Given that Raiden's in ''VideoGame/PlaystationAllStarsBattleRoyale'', that seems unlikely -- I don't see why they'd put the same character in both games, particularly when Raiden's never been on a Nintendo system. |
| 1420 | ** Raiden has actually [[EarlyBirdCameo debuted]] in [[spoiler:VideoGame/MetalGearGhostBabel]] and he appeared as a playable character in ''Evolution Skateboarding'' and ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' as a sticker so Raiden has been on a Nintendo system making him a possible candidate. |
| 1421 | |
| 1422 | [[WMG: Square Enix wants Sora from ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' to be in the next ''Super Smash Bros''.]] |
| 1423 | First: They are developing ''KH'' ports for the Nintendo systems, even though most of the ''KH'' fans are Sony fanboys, therefore it would not make much sense to develop the games for Nintendo systems otherwise. Second, just look at Sora's fighting style in ''[=KH2=]''! He fights just like a ''Super Smash Bros'' character, and has loads and loads of additional costumes to use (plus his Final Form would make an awesome Final Smash. It even has "Final" in the name!) He has enough abilities and magic to pick from for his moveset and his voice samples would go great in Brawl. Also, his coliseum-tournament-victory poses look a lot like Brawl victory poses. |
| 1424 | No doubt that Square Enix wanted to make him as Brawl compatible as possible. And if even Solid Snake made it in the game with a lot of begging... |
| 1425 | * I'd play that game! But why not add in some of his abilities from [=KH1=], or coded? |
| 1426 | * Remember that Kingdom Hearts II came out in 2006, well before Brawl. |
| 1427 | ** But Brawl was announced in 2005. |
| 1428 | *** [[http://uk.ign.com/articles/2006/05/11/e3-2006-super-smash-bros-brawl Brawl was actually announced during E3 2006.]] |
| 1429 | * Sora had victory poses back in Kingdom Hearts I. |
| 1430 | * It's worth noting that Square Enix was originally going to make ''VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy'' a ''Kingdom Hearts'' game, until Disney nixed the idea, saying they didn't want their characters beating each other up. |
| 1431 | * One more note: Masahiro Sakurai's company is named "Sora." Surely, this is an opportunity too good to pass up. |
| 1432 | * Another note: "on that day when the sky fell away, our world came to an end" am I the only one who is reminded of the beginning of ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsI'' when I hear that? |
| 1433 | * Technically jossed but not that much: It's not Square Enix or Nintendo who calls the shots for Sora getting in, that falls to Disney. However, all of these companies' workers are friends in real life. |
| 1434 | ->'''Current status: Confirmed as the final DLC character in Ultimate''' |
| 1435 | |
| 1436 | [[WMG: If Sora from ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' doesn't get into ''Super Smash Bros.'', then Square Enix will go for either the following below]] |
| 1437 | The following could take his spot: |
| 1438 | * Riku |
| 1439 | * Ventus |
| 1440 | * Terra |
| 1441 | * Aqua |
| 1442 | * Axel |
| 1443 | * One of the versions of Master Xehanort (Perhaps the young one or old one) |
| 1444 | * Due to Sora being in a Copyright lock, one of these characters would probably take his invite. It's also debatable on if Roxas and Xion have the same issue since they have the kingdom key in their default design. |
| 1445 | * Roxas could work, but only if Sakurai uses his ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'' fighting style, where he uses both the Oathkeeper and Oblivion keyblades. |
| 1446 | ** Roxas can also use a pallet swap of his Organization XIII cloak, his Twilight Town attire, and Ventus if applicable. |
| 1447 | * Axel may have a higher chance of getting in as he is one of the bigger, most recognizable characters in the franchise. |
| 1448 | ** He has many voice lines that can be reused thanks to Creator/QuintonFlynn voicing the character. |
| 1449 | ** He has a simple look when developing his costume pallets and his somebody form, Lea, can make for one of the eight pallet swaps. |
| 1450 | ** His fighting animation may be mostly similar to Pit and/or Zelda's fighting style, if Sakurai chooses Axel's Organization XIII Chakram mechanic from the remake of ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsChainOfMemories'' and the prologue of ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII''. |
| 1451 | ** His stage would either be Twilight Town, Radiant Garden, or The World That Never Was. If the latter, all 13 members in Organization XIII can cameo in the background. |
| 1452 | ** His Final Smash could be Fire Wall, Firetooth, or Limit Break. |
| 1453 | * Would love to see his reveal trailer with him defending Twilight Town from Heartless alongside Mario, Link, Kirby, and Pikachu; Then inviting and treating them to eating Sea Salt Ice Cream on the Clock tower. |
| 1454 | * If Sora returns for the sixth ''Smash'' game, '''Roxas''' could be included as his Echo Fighter. |
| 1455 | |
| 1456 | [[WMG: One of the third party characters in ''[=SSB4=]'' will be a Lego Mini-figure, complete with Lego City stage.]] |
| 1457 | |
| 1458 | Nintendo made an awfully big deal about securing that exclusive, it would make sense to tie it in to the other game they've announced. |
| 1459 | ** Lego ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' EasterEgg, perhaps? |
| 1460 | ** OH CRAP, MAKE THIS HAPPEN NINTENDO! |
| 1461 | ** Specifically, it will be Chase [=McCain=], star of ''LEGO City Undercover''. |
| 1462 | |
| 1463 | [[WMG: Project Sora (''SSB''[='=]s developer) and Nintendo will push for as many third party characters as possible.]] |
| 1464 | As said above, ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' generates publicity for various games on the console. Since Creator/{{Nintendo}}, learning from their past mistakes from the [[Platform/Nintendo64 N64]] to the Platform/{{Wii}}, is looking to court as much third party support as possible, they will try to get as much third party support as they can so that their games will sell well and the Platform/WiiU will be established as a strong contender with third parties. |
| 1465 | * [[http://ca.ign.com/articles/2012/08/07/masahiro-sakurai-talks-super-smash-bros-4 Quite the opposite]] -- Sakurai stated that he doesn't want to throw in too many third party characters. |
| 1466 | |
| 1467 | [[WMG:''[=SSB4=]'' will reveal the person behind the hands...]] |
| 1468 | [[spoiler:It turns out, it's you! Using the picture it asked you to take for your profile. Both systems do have a camera...]] |
| 1469 | * If this happens, Ness, Wario (If he can be bothered to remember an insignificant employee like that), [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBlazingBlade Hector/Eliwood/Lyn]] (if present), and Kalas (who would have some reaction to a severe case of [[spoiler:role reversal]]) would be the ones to recognize the face. |
| 1470 | * I always thought the hands were either Andross or Wham Bam Rock. |
| 1471 | |
| 1472 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou Neku]].]] |
| 1473 | * There are plenty of powers via pins, and he would fit in well, especially since his CharacterDevelopment in [[VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou TWEWY]]. |
| 1474 | |
| 1475 | [[WMG:''VideoGame/BloodstainedRitualOfTheNight''.]] |
| 1476 | Miriam could join ''Super Smash Bros.'' as a DLC character. |
| 1477 | * She has a variety of moves that could make her a versatile fighter. If Konami couldn't allow Alucard to be playable, Miriam can stand in for Iga's sake. Besides, Sword or Whip? |
| 1478 | * Creator/EricaLindbeck has many lines to make the character stand out in battle. |
| 1479 | * Her Final Smash could be a barrage of Shards she used from her game. Either that, or Johannes and Zangetsu join her in her attack. With Zangetsu using his Ofuda cards to blast away and Johannes using the Liber Logaeth to seal her opponents away. |
| 1480 | * Her outfit may have to be covered up or go with the Valkyrie dress to avoid the censors being on their back. |
| 1481 | * Her Stage could be the Minerva Galleon, the demon train, or the Den of Behemoths. Gebel, Dominique, Alfred, O.D., and Johannes could cameo in the background. |
| 1482 | * Zangetsu could be another Assist Trophy who could fight alongside someone in battle. |
| 1483 | * Michiru Yamane would be involved in the soundtrack. |
| 1484 | |
| 1485 | [[WMG:''VideoGame/ProfessorLayton''.]] |
| 1486 | ** '''Professor Layton''' himself. I'm honestly quite surprised he hasn't been mentioned yet. He's a been a DS mainstay for a long time, and would have an interesting puzzle based moveset. If Phoenix Wright can be a fighter in [=MvC3=], there's no reason a sleuth like Layton can't in SSB. |
| 1487 | ** Does Nintendo own Layton? His games are DS exclusive but Nintendo is not the sole publisher. |
| 1488 | *** Creator/Level5 owns Professor Layton and his games have been released on the Android and the iOS. |
| 1489 | ** Interestingly, [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2009/07/02/professor-layton-joins-smash-bros a fan's Layton Twitter account]] from 2009 mentioned Layton fighting in Smash Bros., specifically fighting "a blue robot boy, a possessed doll, and a tiny boxer." This predicted both Mega Man and Little Mac, with a mention of what is probably [[VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG Geno]]. Bizarre coincidence, or did someone at Nintendo read it? (Ignore the article's insistence that it's official; I found that it was made by Roger [=DiLuigi=].) |
| 1490 | ** Don't forget, Layton held his own in a swordfight at least once. |
| 1491 | ** But also don't forget that Layton is a "Gentlemen" so brutally beating up other characters for no reason is beneath him and goes against everything his character stands for. But if they do add him, it would be especially cool if they add Phoenix Wright as well. |
| 1492 | |
| 1493 | [[WMG:Snake will not return in the next game and will be replaced by another 3rd party character.]] |
| 1494 | My guess either Pac-Man or VideoGame/MegaManClassic. |
| 1495 | ** Are you kidding me? Snake's one of the most popular characters, and he's getting a game on 3DS (sort of). He's practically a shoe-in. And so far, they've only ditched clones (except for Mewtwo, but that was probably for marketing reasons). |
| 1496 | *** [[http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Les_Enfants_Terribles Only cut clones you say]]... |
| 1497 | *** Mewtwo's a literal clone as well. |
| 1498 | ** Pac-Man and VideoGame/MegaManClassic aren't anything like Snake at all. |
| 1499 | He will be replaced by another Snake like Naked Snake or Liquid Snake. |
| 1500 | * Snake did not return in ''Super Smash Bros 4'' as a fighter, but was included in ''Ultimate'' alongside all previously playable characters. |
| 1501 | |
| 1502 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/CaveStory Quote]] will be playable in ''[=SSB4=]''.]] |
| 1503 | One of the most popular [=WiiWare=] and [=DSiWare=] titles, and there's the remake on the 3DS as well! Plus it avoids the complications of dealing with Capcom to negotiate to use Mega Man, as they're fairly similar. I imagine most of his attacks could be with the Blade and his specials could be various guns (Neutral is Polar Star, Side is Fireball, Up is Machine Gun, and Down is something else). Curly could either be an assist trophy or a reskin of him. Because of this he would probably be completely mute, so as to avoid recording voices twice. |
| 1504 | |
| 1505 | [[WMG: Non=video game characters will appear in ''SSB 4''.]] |
| 1506 | Likely candidates include Manga/{{Naruto}}, WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants, [[Franchise/StarWars Darth Vader]], ComicBook/{{Batman}}, and ComicBook/SpiderMan. |
| 1507 | * As much as the thought of Naruto spamming "BELIEVE IT" taunts in the next SSB makes me shudder, this is a possibility, especially with Naruto and other ''Magazine/ShonenJump'' characters. After all, Nintendo themselves published the ''VideoGame/JumpSuperStars'' series; we could get [[Manga/OnePiece Luffy]], Naruto, and [[Manga/DragonBall Goku]] (and ''VideoGame/SuperSmashFlash'' will become HilariousInHindsight). Hopefully they'll make [[Manga/DeathNote Light Yagami]] playable or something to balance out the hyperactive loudmouthed annoyingness. |
| 1508 | * Alternatively, they could include ComicBook/SpiderMan for his roles in the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' games, or Vader for ''[[VideoGame/SoulSeries Soulcalibur IV]]''. Which brings us to... |
| 1509 | * Characters from ''Toys/MonsterHigh'', WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic, and ComicBook/ScottPilgrim will also appear. |
| 1510 | ** In the case of the [=FiM=], I'm guessing the initial character for selection would be Twilight Sparkle, with Rainbow Dash as an Assist Trophy. |
| 1511 | *** Rainbow Dash should be a character because she would be better to constantly brag about. Oh, and Sonic will be her story mode partner because both are fast and blue. |
| 1512 | * Maybe WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse? |
| 1513 | * How about Homestar Runner and/or Strong Bad? |
| 1514 | ** Hmm! That's actually a mild possibility, considering ''VideoGame/StrongBadsCoolGameForAttractivePeople''. |
| 1515 | * Okay Smashers, make way for Duck Dodgers In The 24th And 1/2 Century! |
| 1516 | * '''Jossed:''' Sakurai stated that only characters from video games will be added. |
| 1517 | |
| 1518 | [[WMG: [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog Rouge]] will be the last unlockable in ''Super Smash Bros 4.'']] |
| 1519 | She was the most major Sonic character without a trophy in Brawl. Silver had an appearance on the Sonic stage, and goddamn 'JET' of all people had a trophy. Rouge only had a sticker. Which one has been more important to the series overall? [[spoiler:It's Rouge]]. |
| 1520 | -->'''Current status: Trophy and Spirit''' |
| 1521 | |
| 1522 | [[WMG: Pete from ''VideoGame/HarvestMoon'' will appear either as a trophy, a character, or an assist]] |
| 1523 | ''Harvest Moon'' is a somewhat popular third party series which almost exclusively appears on Nintendo consoles. Pete could certainly have several moves up his sleeve - he's a farmer, after all, so he has a bunch of tools and vegetables. If no ''Harvest Moon'' characters pop up as playables I at least expect a trophy. |
| 1524 | |
| 1525 | [[WMG:''Skylanders'' Spyro.]] |
| 1526 | Creator/{{Activision}} wants to milk games as much as possible, so it would be a good idea. |
| 1527 | |
| 1528 | [[WMG:''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' characters will be included in ''[=SSB4=]''.]] |
| 1529 | The first six ''Final Fantasy'' games were released on the NES and SNES, with remakes on the Game Boy Advanced and the DS. In addition, several side games were released on the DS as well. |
| 1530 | * As for specific characters... [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyII Firion]] might be a good choice, considering his wide range of potential moves. Of course, ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' is probably the most popular game in the series on a Nintendo system, so a character from that might be more likely. And then there's the whole ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyCrystalChronicles'' universe which is entirely specific to Nintendo systems. |
| 1531 | * Jossed, but there's still that DLC ballot... anyway, what about the Black Mage? He's a generic character, but he first appeared on the Famicom/NES, has appeared on several different Nintendo consoles, he'd represent the series as a whole more easily, and he's even appeared in a few Mario sports games. |
| 1532 | * '''Confirmed:''' Cloud Strife from ''Final Fantasy VII'' appears in ''4''. |
| 1533 | |
| 1534 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyI Black Mage]] Casts a Spell!]] |
| 1535 | The Black Mage is the most iconic class in ''Final Fantasy'' and next to Cloud, probably the most iconic character since there are a lot of homages to him. I think it'll be cool to have a little throwback to the pre-''Final Fantasy VII'' games and it's easy to put in specials since he can cast Fire, Thunder, and Blizzard while his up special can be a teleport. His Final Smash can have him summon Bahamut where he then casts Megaflare. |
| 1536 | * Black Mage would be a good additional choice if a second ''FF'' character were to be included; he's visually and mechanically distinct from Cloud, and together they would represent a broader slice of the franchise's history and development. |
| 1537 | |
| 1538 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Sephiroth]] will appear if Cloud returns in ''Smash Bros.'' for Switch.]] |
| 1539 | Wherever Cloud goes, Sephiroth always follows. If Cloud's inclusion in ''[=3DS/Wii U=]'' was an "experiment", it was highly successful. Sephiroth would be an excellent way to crank up hype for the game (even if it's just a port) and to include "[[AwesomeMusic/FinalFantasy One-Winged Angel]]" as a music track. |
| 1540 | * Cloud's been confirmed. Now we wait. |
| 1541 | ** As of The Game Awards 2020, this is '''Confirmed'''- Sephiroth is Challenger Pack 8! |
| 1542 | |
| 1543 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXV Noctis]] will appear as a guest character; possibly replacing Cloud.]] |
| 1544 | He’s appeared in Tekken, so another fighting game appearance could definitely be a possibility. |
| 1545 | * Seeing how Noctis is becoming the new poster boy for Final Fantasy in general, it's a good guess. |
| 1546 | * Cloud is returning in ''Ultimate'', so that specific part is jossed. Noctis could still be possible, though. |
| 1547 | |
| 1548 | [[WMG: The big fanbase-stunning unexpected character for this game will be WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd.]] |
| 1549 | * He's a part of gamer culture, and he does specialise in Nintendo games, not to mention he's shown himself to be a capable fighter in some of his videos, with plenty of material for moves. Of course, they'd have to tone down his profanity, but if Snake can get in... |
| 1550 | * Jossed: He started online, not in a Video Game. Plus, Sakurai would have to pay to use the likeness of Creator/JamesRolfe within the franchise. |
| 1551 | |
| 1552 | [[WMG:''WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph''.]] |
| 1553 | * Nintendo was happy enough to lend several of its characters to Disney to cameo in the movie, and if Sega was able to get Ralph to appear in ''[[VideoGame/SegaSuperstars Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed]]'', it's not inconceivable for Nintendo to pull off the same thing for Ralph in Smash. |
| 1554 | ** The only problem I can think of is that he might play too much like Donkey Kong (since Ralph is essentially a Human-esque Donkey Kong already). Now if Vanellope Von Schweetz was a playable character/assist trophy... |
| 1555 | ** This faces the same issue as Sora from ''Franchise/KingdomHearts''. As ever, Disney has the last say on if either of them get in. Nobody would want another ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcomInfinite'' situation to happen again. |
| 1556 | * Ralph, however, is not a character from real-life video games originally, which severely limits his chances for getting in. |
| 1557 | |
| 1558 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/{{Scribblenauts}} Maxwell]] will be a playable fighter.]] |
| 1559 | * Scribblenauts got its first big break on the DS. It would only make sense that Maxwell would be included in ''[=SSB4=]''. He could utilize his notebook and make various items for fighting. His melee weapon could be the giant pencil and he could fly around in the purple-winged polka dotted bathtub from his game cover. His Final Smash could be spawning a T-Rex, or possible [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Cthulhu]]. Also, [[EvilTwin Llewxam]] could be a Trophy assist. |
| 1560 | ** Seriously, think of how completely random his moveset could be. Every attack should just be Maxwell using a different object. |
| 1561 | ** Either of the above Final Smashes would work, but I doubt they'd use Cthulhu since he's a specific character that didn't originate from a video game. Maxwell riding a T. rex already has some popularity due to the Post 217 meme. There's also the Large Hadron Collider, which would create a black hole that could suck everyone into it, do tons of damage, and then dump them out upon disappearing (sort of like Kirby's Final Smash). |
| 1562 | |
| 1563 | [[WMG:''VideoGame/CrashBandicoot''.]] |
| 1564 | * Because so many fans wanted to see Crash in [[VideoGame/PlaystationAllStarsBattleRoyale PSASBR]] but were denied (as of now anyway). Nintendo could totally stick it to Sony by announcing him as part of their roster, and maybe just as a added touch reveal him in a trailer featuring Mario and Sonic to give the 90's fans a nice touch of nostalgia: Nintendo vs Sega vs Sony. |
| 1565 | ** With rumours of a Crash reboot going around, this isn't inconcievable. |
| 1566 | |
| 1567 | [[WMG:''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}''.]] |
| 1568 | * '''D.Va:''' This would be quite the surprise appearance for a third-party Smash character. Like Samus, her Self-Destruct would be her Final Smash with her indeed shouting "NERF THIS!" Once she's out of her MEKA, she'd play more like Zero Suit Samus. |
| 1569 | |
| 1570 | [[WMG:''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei IV''[='=]s Character/Flynn]] |
| 1571 | * With the recent partnership of Nintendo and Atlus of making Shin Megami Tensei x Franchise/{{Fire Emblem}}, it could be put into consideration. Plus the Franchise has been getting a lot of attention in the recent years. Flynn being the protagonist of the latest entry of the main series (which is for the Nintendo 3DS, no less) would be a nice choice, and also to serve as an introduction to the series. Although even if the game has an M-Rating (like Metal Gear Solid) its themes are much more complex and controversial, which could be a reason not to include him. |
| 1572 | |
| 1573 | [[WMG: Blanc from ''Franchise/{{Neptunia}}'' will appear in the newly announced ''Smash Bros.'' games]] |
| 1574 | * Think about it. She's pretty much the...er...."safest dressed" out any of the Goddesses, and she is the ''physical embodiment of Nintendo''. This would be a great time to add her, especially since Neptunia could do with more recognition, and Blanc, once again being the ''physical embodiment of Nintendo itself'' would be a great addition. |
| 1575 | |
| 1576 | [[WMG: From Creator/{{Tecmo}}:]] |
| 1577 | * Ryu Hayabusa from ''VideoGame/NinjaGaiden''. This could become a reality as Koei Tecmo is helping Project Sora in the Soundtrack department. However, they will have to make his moveset unique, otherwise he will be another swordfighter on the roster. Much like Roy's reveal trailer from Smash 4, the announcer is going to either pronounce the name with a different tone or say his name with his last name: Ryu Hayabusa! |
| 1578 | * Rygar from ''VideoGame/{{Rygar}}''. |
| 1579 | * Mio & Mayu Amakura from ''VideoGame/FatalFrameII''. |
| 1580 | * Kasumi from ''VideoGame/DeadOrAlive''. Her moveset from the franchise would be easy to reference. Kasumi's Torn Skies technique would make for a devestating Final Smash if anyone dared to cross her like her Evil Uncle did. Sakurai and Project Sora would have to go for ''VideoGame/DeadOrAlive6'' design to get the censors off their back and because its her recent fighting game design. Bounce physics not included and not guaranteed. |
| 1581 | |
| 1582 | [[WMG:''Franchise/{{Popeye}}'':]] |
| 1583 | Remember the arcade classic ''VideoGame/DonkeyKong''? Well, here's a little bit of trivia: Creator/ShigeruMiyamoto [[WhatCouldHaveBeen actually conceived it initially as a ''Popeye'' video game]] (yes, I'm aware that there ''is'' a [[{{VideoGame/Popeye}} Popeye video game]] that Miyamoto made later, but that isn't the same one). It was his first game ever, and he wanted to make it with Popeye characters (specifically, Popeye, Olive Oyl, and Bluto). However, Nintendo wasn't able to license the characters, so instead, they created {{Expy}}s in their place, resulting in the birth of the Mario/Jumpman and Donkey Kong characters we all know and love(and Pauline, [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome though almost nobody remembers her]], unfortunately). If Nintendo wanted to include a non-video game character into ''Smash Bros. 4'', Popeye would be a good choice since he actually has a bit of history with Nintendo besides just "his game was made by Nintendo". |
| 1584 | * '''Jossed''' by WordOfGod: Sakurai has made it clear that anyone outside of video games is off limits, including Popeye. |
| 1585 | |
| 1586 | [[WMG:''Tomba'':]] |
| 1587 | I'm sure pigs will fly under their own power before it happens, but it'd be a dream. Preferably in his less cute'n'cuddly Tomba! 2 incarnation. Special Moves would be: B: Blackjack, a chargable ranged strike. Side B: Ice Boomerang, which freezes upon contact but destroyed by one hit, like another projectile, for example. Down B: Fire Hammer, a powerful flaming strike, that'd be similar to Ike's Aether, minus the recovery abilities. Up B: Bite, a leaping attack that could transition to a grab on hit, and function as a third jump if used in the air. Finally, Final Smash would be: Titan Tomba, where he'd equip all the best equipment from the game at once, including the invincibility-inducing [[Infinty+1Sword Golden Powder]] while also entering the Taboo state. Essentially a o-Man-esque smash that'd make him incredibly fast and invincible and supercharge all his moves, both standard and special. |
| 1588 | |
| 1589 | [[WMG: Franchise/{{Godzilla}} will end up as a playable character, either in DLC, mods or some other method.]] |
| 1590 | I don't think I need to say this; but Godzilla is very historically significant, and also has (albeit loose) ties to other Nintendo characters; he was inspired by King Kong, and Donkey Kong got his name from a misconception by Miyamoto that "kong" meant "ape", as in Film/KingKong. As well, Godzilla has had a ''very'' prominent history on Nintendo consoles; the only console he's missed was the Platform/Nintendo64 (he had ''VideoGame/GodzillaMonsterOfMonsters'' and ''Godzilla 2: War of The Monsters'' on the Nintendo Entertainment System, ''Godzilla: Destroy All Monsters'' and ''VideoGame/SuperGodzilla'' on the Super Nintendo Entertainment System, two Gameboy games,Destroy All Monsters Melee'' on the Gamecube, ''Domination'' on the GBA, ''[[VideoGame/GodzillaUnleashed Unleashed]]'' on the Wii and ''Unleashed: Double Smash'' on the DS; and it's likely a game will end up on the Wii U and 3DS as a tie-in for the reboot coming up in May. Couple that with Godzilla's popularity in the West, and with childern in general, and the nuclear saurian would be a decent fit for a Smash game. It'd probably need to be one of the later Showa-era Godzilla designs instead of a Heisei or Millenium design, if only since any of the more serious designs might look out-of-place in a cartoony fighting game like SSB tends to be. |
| 1591 | * Sorry man. He might have plenty of videogames, but he didn't start off in any of them. |
| 1592 | |
| 1593 | [[WMG: Rayman will appear in some form.]] |
| 1594 | From what's known, some leaks on the Metro news website indicate he's got a trophy, with his model being made by Ubisoft ''themselves''. Sure, he's not confirmed as a fighter, but a trophy might confirm his appearance in the game, either as an Assist Trophy or a full-fledged fighter, like thousands have predicted. |
| 1595 | * '''Confirmed''': he's a Spirit in ''Ultimate''. |
| 1596 | |
| 1597 | [[WMG: One or more characters from the ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}'' franchise will appear]] |
| 1598 | Since the Peanuts characters are worldwide icons, plus with them having video games on Nintendo consoles (Like Snoopy Tennis on Gameboy Color), it's not THAT far a stretch |
| 1599 | |
| 1600 | Possible character choices: |
| 1601 | |
| 1602 | Charlie Brown: The main character of the strip. He'd be an all-around fighter like Mario. Some of his moves could revolve around baseball. F |
| 1603 | |
| 1604 | Snoopy and Woodstock: The mascots of the franchise, are incredibly popular in Japan, and Snoopy has been shown to be a competent boxer and arm-wrestler (He can fight Lucy to a standstill, he only wins because he kisses her). Both could have animalesque move. |
| 1605 | |
| 1606 | Linus van Pelt: Best Friend to Charlie. He could have the best range out of everyone because of his blanket. As a result, pretty much all his moves will use the blanket |
| 1607 | |
| 1608 | Lucy van Pelt: The closet that Peanuts has to an antagonist (though she is more a JerkWithAHeartOfGold), is stated (and shown) to be good at fighting (again, she only loses because she's often fighting Snoopy, who'll kiss her to force her to lose). She'd be the strongest of the four Peanuts characters listed here. |
| 1609 | |
| 1610 | FINAL SMASHES: |
| 1611 | |
| 1612 | Charlie Brown: summons the Kite-eating tree. He uses a kite to lift opponents in the air, to which the tree will take a bite out of the poor victims, resulting in a one-hit KO |
| 1613 | |
| 1614 | Snoopy and Woodstock: Snoopy hops in his Sopwith Camel and shoot everyone |
| 1615 | |
| 1616 | Linus: summons the Great Pumpkin, which proceeds to attack all opponents and does high damage |
| 1617 | |
| 1618 | Lucy: summons a giant football, and pushes it to the right (or left), any opponent it hits is dealt high damage and receives great knockback |
| 1619 | |
| 1620 | TAUNTS: |
| 1621 | |
| 1622 | Charlie Brown: says "Good Grief" |
| 1623 | |
| 1624 | Snoopy and Woodstock: dance |
| 1625 | |
| 1626 | Linus: sucks on his thumb, then takes his thumb out of his mouth |
| 1627 | |
| 1628 | Lucy: tosses a football into the air, looking at it with a smile on her face, then puts it away. |
| 1629 | |
| 1630 | * '''Jossed''', they CAN'T appear. ''Smash'' only accepts characters that debuted in video games. ''Peanuts'' having games on Nintendo systems (none of which were top sellers) is in no way support for them being in ''Smash''. |
| 1631 | ** Yeah, I realize that non-video game characters have a .1% chance of appearing. I was just doing that for fun. Although I sometimes get thoughts of wanting non-video game characters to be in ''Smash Bros''. Oh well, at least we have the Mii Fighters! |
| 1632 | |
| 1633 | [[WMG: Franchise/{{Shrek}} will appear]] |
| 1634 | Well, it makes more sense than other examples here, given that Shrek has been known to appear in some [[SarcasmMode awesome]] [[TheProblemWithLicensedGames games]], one of them a fighter. He's also a MemeticBadass, and he has a lot of potential for an interesting move set. |
| 1635 | |
| 1636 | * '''Jossed''': he's a movie character, not a videogame character. |
| 1637 | |
| 1638 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/BanjoKazooie Banjo and Kazooie]] will make it as DLC.]] |
| 1639 | Not only do many people love them, but they're also more associated with the N64 than Microsoft, even though they do belong to Microsoft now. Plus, [[http://www.gamnesia.com/news/xbox-boss-phil-spencer-supports-the-idea-of-banjo-kazooie-in-super-smash-br#.VR8B2eHjLIV even Xbox boss Phil Spencer supports the idea of them appearing]], and as of this writing, there's also a poll going on to ask people who they'd like to be in Smash Bros (it doesn't guarantee they'll be playable, but if Nintendo's OK with it, who knows). |
| 1640 | |
| 1641 | They definitely have potential for flying and egg-shooting attacks. What about if Kirby sucks them up? In that case, Kirby will don his own blue backpack with one of his [[https://kirby.fandom.com/wiki/Animal_Friends animal friends]] (probably Pitch or Coo) providing projectile attacks similar to Kazooie. |
| 1642 | |
| 1643 | * The April 2019 direct reveals something intriguing. During the Stage Builder portion of the direct, one of the stages resembles a witch that looks suspiciously like Gruntilda, further fueling the fire. |
| 1644 | * '''Confirmed.''' |
| 1645 | |
| 1646 | [[WMG: VideoGame/ShovelKnight will be in the next DLC announcement.]] |
| 1647 | If you look at the recent WebVideo/GameGrumps Shovel Knight Amiibo announcement trailer, you'll note that they never clearly show the top part of the Amiibo's base. One or two shots do let a glimpse of the base slip through, and it's the same gold as that of a Smash Bros Amiibo. |
| 1648 | * Seems like a possibility. He does have a Mega Man inspired weaponry collection; this could work as the (alt) smash attacks. Up smash could see him summon Shield Knight to launch him up (Like in the final boss fight), and (WARNING: Far flung idea) we could hope for a final smash with a team-up with The Order of No Quarter! |
| 1649 | * The base just shows his face. You can see it if you pause at 1:01 into the Game Grumps trailer. |
| 1650 | * '''Current Status: Assist Trophy (But still quite an accomplishment)''' |
| 1651 | |
| 1652 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 The Pyro]] would be [[Creator/ValveSoftware Valve's]] representative should they ever get one in the game.]] |
| 1653 | Of all of Valve's characters, I think that the Pyro would best translate into Smash due to |
| 1654 | [[Main/AmbiguousGender his/her]] halluncenation of being in a fantasyland while having weapons that would cause a more [[Main/AmusingInjuries comical fighting style]] than other Valve characters, who use more traditional weapons. s/he could very well end up a counterpart to Snake without being a clone, as they are both from M rated games contrasting with a E- E10 rated crowd. |
| 1655 | |
| 1656 | [[WMG: We'll see two more "classic" mascot characters available as DLC]] |
| 1657 | One of the biggest draws of ''Smash'' as a franchise is the idea that the wildest of character match-ups can actually become a reality -- and with the recent addition of Ryu and Cloud, a no-holds-barred beatdown between all the rival company icons is not possible when playing under the default condition of four players. It is possible, however, for this to happen in eight-player Smash... except that even then, there are two open spots for "classic" mascot characters that have defined game companies. This troper expects that they will be revealed during the final Smash Direct in December, and were likely planned far before the ballot results were finalized. As for who those characters will be, my money is on [[Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei Jack Frost]] as an Atlus rep (given Nintendo's good relationship with the company and Sega's involvement, it's a bit surprising that it ''hasn't'' happened yet) and [[Franchise/PrinceOfPersia The Prince]] representing Ubisoft. |
| 1658 | * VideoGame/{{Rayman}} would probably be a better fit than the Prince for a Ubisoft representation (he even has his own trophy in the game!). Jack Frost isn't the most unlikely choice but a Konami character is more probable, between veteran smasher [[VideoGame/MetalGear Solid Snake]], VideoGame/{{Bomberman}} and [[Franchise/{{Castlevania}} Simon Belmont]] ([[Franchise/SilentHill Pyramid Head]] is ''probably'' too hardcore for Smash). |
| 1659 | |
| 1660 | [[WMG:To go along with Cloud, there will be Mii Fighter costumes of Vincent and/or Zack.]] |
| 1661 | After all, they're both very important to the story of ''Final Fantasy VII'' and starred in their respective spin-off games. |
| 1662 | * Same could be said for Sephiroth, who is one of the most iconic Final Fantasy villains. |
| 1663 | ** The Mii Costume thing is ''probably'' '''Jossed''' as far as Sephiroth is concerned, as he's a fully playable fighter- the star of ''Ultimate'''s Challenger Pack 8. |
| 1664 | |
| 1665 | [[WMG:Roy will return for ''Smash 5'' as a non-DLC character.]] |
| 1666 | After all, Roy is our boy. |
| 1667 | * '''Confirmed.''' |
| 1668 | |
| 1669 | [[WMG:A ''Fallout'' lead will appear in ''Smash 5'' as DLC.]] |
| 1670 | They pulled off Snake, and this is Wild Mass Guessing so fuck it. The Sole Survivor is the most likely pick since he does have a default face and is from the most recent game, but putting the Courier in his NCR gear could work as well. He'd have small firearms as his specialty most likely (perhaps using specific ones like Kellog's Gun or The Courier's .44 for specific individuals) while also mixing it up with some of Fallout's more iconic wierd weapons for combos and specials - the Super Sledge, Power Fists, That Gun, the Shishkebab, the Ripper, the Junk Jet, Bottlecap Mines, etc. Final Smashes could be anything - the Fat Man, Liberty Prime, Power Armor, a pack of Deathclaws... |
| 1671 | * Vault Boy may be a better choice (like in this [[http://imgur.com/bMHHTU5 fan-made moveset]], but it could work with your attacks too) being a cartoony and being more recognizable character. Or alternatively they could go for an EnsembleDarkhorse like [[AndroidsAndDetectives Nick Valentine]], [[BruiserWithASoftCenter Fawkes]] or [[{{Mutants}} John Hancock]]. |
| 1672 | ->'''Current status: Vault Boy is a DLC Mii Costume''' |
| 1673 | |
| 1674 | [[WMG:If ''Undertale'' is ever published on a Nintendo console, a character from the game would be added to the roster.]] |
| 1675 | Even though this decision would have one of the most [[HypeBacklash polarizing reception]] ever, there would be at least a slight chance of having a main character from ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' joining the roster if the game is ever ported/remade/got a sequel on a Nintendo console. Much like other indie-characters popular in the polls, ''Undertale'' is love letter to the classic Nintendo era, especially the ''VideoGame/{{Mother}}'' series. The inclusion of this critically acclaimed game would make sense in the history of Nintendo, heck even of gaming of general (all HypeBacklash aside); and really the only (and yet ''major'') drawback is the fact that has ''not'' been released on Nintendo and will probably never be, and even if, it would probably not be at the top of the list of possibilities, far under Shovel Knight, Shantae or even Commander Video, who all have been supportive of Nintendo from the start. And the only representation of the game (several ''Undertale'' fighters would honestly feel too much) could be a downplayed CompositeCharacter by using attacks from other characters from the game. That said, here are some ideas: |
| 1676 | * While Frisk is the main character, their inclusion would not be very fitting: the whole point of the game is to ''not'' fight, and even in No Mercy mode they doesn't do much ([[VideoGame/FZero though it]] [[VideoGame/DuckHunt has never]] [[VideoGame/RoboticOperatingBuddy been a]] [[VideoGame/WiiFit real issue]]). A palette swap of Frisk (and Chara) for Lucas/Ness would be nice enough. |
| 1677 | * Sans is probably the best fit. He is one of the most popular, recognizable character and fight of the game. The Gaster Blasters would be his smash attacks, similarly to Bayonetta's, and he should have at least one move based on his MindOverMatter power, and maybe one for his OffscreenTeleportation ability. Maybe he could "turn the opponents blue" and incapacitate them in some way (freeze, slow, stun, or ground them like an ''Animal Crossing'' trap) Aside from the usual BallisticBone attacks, the rest of his moves would have to be created or inspired by other characters. The Final Smash (by the way it would be cool if only his left eye appears when he breaks the Smash Ball) could either be a [[BeamSpam barrage of Gaster Blasters]] or a mini-game recreating the first attack of his boss battle, leaving the victims in a NintendoHard but technically avoidable trap. Palette swaps would include at least one orange (Papyrus), one purple (Toriel) and one black (Gaster). |
| 1678 | * Alternatively, since Sans is technically spoiler incarnate, ''Undyne'' would be the better choice, with her Undying form as a Final Smash. Between her rowdy nature, signature spear, and quickly rotating projectiles, there's plenty of work with when it comes to making a moveset for her, and though this isn't exactly something that the team takes into consideration when it comes to picking fighters, she'd also be the most appropriate ''Undertale'' character to pick in terms of personality, since she's the only one of the major characters who loves fighting for its own sake. |
| 1679 | * For the Assist Tropy/ies, there are several possibilities: |
| 1680 | ** Papyrus: creates several bones which glide on the grounds. |
| 1681 | ** Mettaton EX: [[DanceBattler dances around]] and hurt the opponents with his legs. |
| 1682 | ** Undyne: throws a barrage of spears. |
| 1683 | ** Frisk: This would probably be the next best thing to making them playable, as it would let them use the Spare command to take a fighter out of the action for a short time (i.e. they can't hurt anyone or be hurt by anyone). Useful for timed matches if you're already in the lead. |
| 1684 | * Current status: Sans Mii Gunner costume with accompanying Megalovania rearrangement. |
| 1685 | |
| 1686 | [[WMG: Kris from ''VideoGame/{{Deltarune}}'']] |
| 1687 | * Given that Sans is a Mii Costume in ''Ultimate'', representation from Toby Fox's games could expand to a playable Kris in ''Smash 6''. They would have a moveset based around a Tension Points gimmick, where they collect TP based on how many attacks they dodge or graze (similar to the bullet-grazing mechanic from their home game) and summon Ralsei and Susie for some of their moves. Their Final Smash would be to summon the [[HumongousMecha Thrash Machine]] and wail on foes. As for a home stage, something from the newest chapter of ''Deltarune'' as of ''Smash 6''[='s=] release would fit best, but as of the time of writing Queen's Mansion would be a fun idea. It'd have character cameos of Noelle, Berdly, Lancer, Queen, King, Nubert, Rouxls Kaard, the original        Starwalker and others, with Spamton NEO as a stage boss. Also think of the kickass music remixes that they'd bring with them! |
| 1688 | |
| 1689 | [[WMG: Any one of the 20+ heroes from Blizzard's ''Overwatch''.]] |
| 1690 | Aside from Mercy, nearly all of the heroes would make excellent Smash Bros. fighters. Some liberties might need to be taken though; while all the heroes wield some form of firearm. |
| 1691 | ** This is actually a fairly strong possibility, especially if we get a Switch port of ''Overwatch''. '''Tracer''' is most likely, as the SeriesMascot and an extremely popular character, but Sakurai could always throw a curveball and give us '''D.Va''' because of her even greater popularity and gaming meta humor (she could have her own version of Snake's Codecs), or '''Genji''' because he seems best-suited to be reworked as a melee fighter and is also very popular. |
| 1692 | |
| 1693 | [[WMG: The [[Franchise/{{Doom}} Doom Slayer]].]] |
| 1694 | There was Doom 64, after all. |
| 1695 | His fighting style would involve various firearms as well as melee attacks. And his Final Smash should be a BFG-9000 blast. |
| 1696 | * This isn't actually that far off, considering how both ''DOOM'' and ''DOOM Eternal'' are actually coming to the Nintendo Switch. |
| 1697 | * With Snake being brought back, it's certainly possible -- however, in his base form, he might be a bit ''too'' violent. Maybe perhaps they'll do something similar to Snake and have him focus on a combination of energy weapons (Plasma Rifle, Railgun/Ballista), explosives (Rocket Launcher, Grenades), and melee attacks. |
| 1698 | ** Perhaps this moveset could include new elements featured in ''DOOM Eternal'', including the shoulder-mounted grenade launcher/flamethrower, arm blade and Super Shotgun Grappling Hook. |
| 1699 | ** Given how Joker uses his realistic-looking Gun as his Neutral Special, it means that ballistic weapons like the Chaingun and (Super) Shotgun are no longer invalidated, possibly giving rise to a more firearms-centric moveset. |
| 1700 | ** I can picture the Doom Slayer having brutal attack animations and some satisfyingly crunchy sound design. Extreme violence is so integral to his concept that even Bayonetta looks rather restrained next to him, so they'd have to get around the all-ages rating somehow to represent his neverending appetite for the blood and guts of Hell's legions. |
| 1701 | ** With the passing of E3 and the September Nintendo Direct, support for the Doom Slayer has never been higher. Doom 1, 2 and 3 being available on the Switch was one thing, but officially rereleasing Doom 64 for the first time ever, with the Switch release date being the same day as Doon Eternal ''and'' falling in the same month as Terry Bogard's release turns the Slayer into a highly likely candidate for the final addition to the Fighters Pass. |
| 1702 | * => Current status: Mii Costume! Here's hoping for the next game... |
| 1703 | |
| 1704 | [[WMG: Jason Frudnick from ''VideoGame/BlasterMaster''.]] |
| 1705 | The remake ''Blaster Master Zero'' was pretty popular, and the original was one of the quintessential NES games. |
| 1706 | * He could fight on foot, with some of his normal and special attacks using his subweapons from all 3 ''Blaster Master Zero'' games (and maybe some where he summons SOPHIA III). His Final Smash could be him calling Eve so she uses Unchained DDF and, a la Bayonetta's FS, you have to attack opponents so they get locked on for a Remote Blast; follow that with Fred transporting Jason back to SOPHIA III so Jason, Eve, and Fred can finish the job with Full Acceleration Blast (you can mash the button to deal more damage). |
| 1707 | |
| 1708 | [[WMG: VideoGame/{{Worms}}, possibly as a group fighter.]] |
| 1709 | Worms W.M.D did release on Switch, so it's entirely possible that they could appear, especially given that their game ''is'' a type of fighting game. Their special moves could be their different weapons, not to mention that the series has many weapons that could take the place of a Final Smash. Heck, they could even be able to destroy ground on certain stages, just like in their own games! The fact that they use realistic weapons might be a problem, but Nintendo could find a way around it. |
| 1710 | |
| 1711 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/NierAutomata 2B will be playable in a future game]]]] |
| 1712 | * Considering her game’s popularity, 2B would be just as much of a popular fighter on here with alternate costumes not only being palette swaps for her dress and hair, but her Final Smash would be self-destructing, putting her into her underwear a la Zero Suit Samus. |
| 1713 | |
| 1714 | On the English voice acting side, it would be a big AscendedFanboy moment for Creator/KiraBuckland who got some of her start voicing Brawl Taunt videos. |
| 1715 | |
| 1716 | [[WMG: KOS-MOS from ''{{VideoGame/Xenosaga}}'' will get in]] |
| 1717 | As a tribute to Creator/MonolithSoft for all the hard work they do for Nintendo. It wouldn't be [[VideoGame/ProjectXZone the first]] [[VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles2 or second time]] she crossed over to a Nintendo game, either. |
| 1718 | |
| 1719 | [[WMG:''Smash Ultimate'' will have the most amount of 3rd Party Characters appearing yet...]] |
| 1720 | ...in the form of Mii Fighter Costumes. Since a big part of the Switch's appeal is the huge amount of huge franchises coming to a Nintendo System for the first time, in addition to tons of fan favorite indie games, a great way to pay tribute without it impacting the game to hard would be adding in special Mii Costumes based off these Switch Supporters. I put down a few ideas below, feel free to add on to the list: |
| 1721 | Mii Brawler: |
| 1722 | * [[VideoGame/LANoire Cole Phelps]] |
| 1723 | * [[VideoGame/{{Undertale}} Sans]] |
| 1724 | ** Jossed, Sans is a Gunner suit. |
| 1725 | |
| 1726 | Mii Swordfighter: |
| 1727 | * [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Dovahkiin]] |
| 1728 | * [[VideoGame/HollowKnight Hollow Knight]] |
| 1729 | * [[VideoGame/DarkSoulsI Solaire of Astora]] |
| 1730 | * [[VideoGame/Disgaea5AllianceOfVengeance Killia]] |
| 1731 | * [[VideoGame/MineCraft steve?/alex?]] |
| 1732 | ** Steve/Alex ended up confirmed as fighters. |
| 1733 | |
| 1734 | Mii Gunner: |
| 1735 | * [[Videogame/Doom2016 DoomGuy]] |
| 1736 | * [[VideoGame/CaveStory Robot Soldier (Quote/Curly Brace depending on gender)]] |
| 1737 | * [[VideoGame/Disgaea5AllianceOfVengeance Seraphina]] (although the game would have to be rated T for that to happen) |
| 1738 | |
| 1739 | [[WMG: Bendy from ''VideoGame/BendyAndTheInkMachine'' will make a guest appearance]] |
| 1740 | Since Bendy and The Ink Machine is now released on home consoles (Nintendo Switch included). It only seems fair that Bendy can join the roster. His Final Smash could be him transforming into Beast Bendy from Chapter 5. |
| 1741 | |
| 1742 | [[WMG: If not Banjo-Kazooie, then The Arbiter will appear as Microsoft's representative in ''Smash Ultimate''.]] |
| 1743 | With Ridley paving the way for more violence-oriented characters (he fuckin' straight up MURDERS Mega Man and Mario in his introductory vid), it wouldn't be too much of a surprise if shooter games like Halo have been opened up as a potential avenue for fighters. I will agree that Chief himself would be the more I C O N I C and franchise mascot-appropriate choice, but the combination of the Energy Sword and Covenant plasma weaponry could give the Arbiter a unique Swordsman/Gunner playstyle, much like his appearance in ''VideoGame/KillerInstinct''. |
| 1744 | |
| 1745 | [[WMG: Nintendo will do the impossible and incorporate [[VideoGame/GodOfWar Kratos]] and [[Franchise/{{Halo}} Master Chief]] in ''Smash Ultimate'']] |
| 1746 | While we already have guesses on the Microsoft side for Banjo-Kazooie and The Arbiter above, and Kratos has already appeared as a guest fighter in [[VideoGame/MortalKombat9 two]] [[VideoGame/SoulSeries other]] fighting games (along with Sony's own ''VideoGame/PlayStationAllStarsBattleRoyale'' back on the [=PS3=]), still Nintendo will cross current big three platform lines and bring in [[Creator/SonyInteractiveEntertainment their]] [[Creator/MicrosoftStudios rivals']] most iconic characters to prove that ''Super Smash Bros.'' knows no bounds. Kratos would be based on his 2018 ''VideoGame/{{God of War|PS4}}'' appearance, while Master Chief might be based on how he may appear in the upcoming ''VideoGame/HaloInfinite''. |
| 1747 | * Perhaps with alternate costumes based on their incarnations in past games: |
| 1748 | ** Kratos in his Greek-Era outfit from the original trilogy. |
| 1749 | ** Chief with different iterations of the MJOLNIR Armour (Mark IV/V/VI/VI GEN 2). |
| 1750 | |
| 1751 | [[WMG: A later ''Smash Bros.'' game will be a true gaming all-stars game.]] |
| 1752 | We probably will never see every fighter from every Smash game again, so a way to top that is to retool the series into a real gaming all-stars fighter. Many more third-party series (possibly even from Sony and Microsoft if they're kind enough) will join the fight and the third-party series that are already represented will get a lot more secondary characters that aren't just Echo Fighters. Sakurai already said that he was trying to make ''Smash 4'' a gaming all-stars game, so why not take it up to eleven? (Other than budget concerns.) Obviously they would have to cut even more veterans than usual, which is why the term "retool" was used here. |
| 1753 | |
| 1754 | [[WMG: WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph will be added as ''Ultimate'' DLC.]] |
| 1755 | Second movie came out not too long ago and the movie's main gimmick is that characters can crossover to other games. It's not too impossible as he was a guest racer in ''VideoGame/SonicAndAllStarsRacingTransformed''. |
| 1756 | * Jossed: Disney has the last say of what happens with the character. |
| 1757 | |
| 1758 | [[WMG: '''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyV GILGAMESH]]'''.]] |
| 1759 | Come on. The guy's a very popular character in the Final Fantasy universe, so much that he appeared in other games. He deserves to be in Smash. His use of different swords could make for some interesting attacks, and his Final Smash could be transforming into his second form and using either Excalibur, Masamune, Zantetsuken, or Excalipoor. |
| 1760 | |
| 1761 | [[WMG:''VideoGame/AngryBirds''.]] |
| 1762 | Eight of the birds will represent skins for a single character slot, all having a similar move set (launching themselves via slingshot, bouncing, flapping their wings) plus their own special moves depending on who you choose. The Mighty Eagle also serves as their Final Smash. |
| 1763 | |
| 1764 | * Red is the default bird and attacks simply by knocking into fighters, as well as a special move that subverts his MasterOfNone reputation in the games. |
| 1765 | * Yellow/Chuck moves faster than the other birds, his special move being a homing attack where he launches himself into the nearest opponent. |
| 1766 | * The Blues act as multiple characters rolled in one, similar to the Ice Climbers. |
| 1767 | * Black/Bomb attacks using self-detonation. In the same mechanics as Wario's farts, the power of the explosions will depend on how much time passes between each use. |
| 1768 | * White/Matilda drops egg bombs and fires egg fireballs. |
| 1769 | * Terrence moves slower but delivers more damage, his special move being a MightyGlacier launch attack. |
| 1770 | * Orange/Bubbles inflates his body, floats and deflates. |
| 1771 | * Pink/Stella traps opponents in bubbles, which can either float them out of bounds or pop and send them falling. |
| 1772 | |
| 1773 | [[WMG: Against all odds and belief, ''VideoGame/{{Tetris}}'' will be a DLC fighter.]] |
| 1774 | Thought the Piranha Plant's inclusion was crazy? Sakurai was only getting started. A leak will reveal the silhouetted image of a block figure that appears to be Steve from ''VideoGame/MineCraft''. Then, to everyone's surprise, the following direct will throw a curve ball when the figure turns out to be a stack of multi-colored Tetris blocks. |
| 1775 | |
| 1776 | '''Tetris stacks up!''' |
| 1777 | |
| 1778 | The Tetris fighter will look like a simple cube that comes in eight different colors. However, it can attack by knocking itself into opponents, changing shape and expanding with other blocks, and dropping blocks over opponents. The Tetris Final Smash will send the other fighters into an actual Tetris game in which they must avoid being crushed by falling blocks. |
| 1779 | |
| 1780 | -->'''Current status: Spirits''' |
| 1781 | |
| 1782 | [[WMG: As an even bigger shock, '''''[[Franchise/MortalKombat Scorpion]]''''' gets in.]] |
| 1783 | As I said in ''Ultimate'' 's WMG page, while ''Mortal Kombat'' was never released in Japan, and absolutely lived and breathed {{Gorn}} since day one, one would think that ''MK'' is never going to be represented in ''SSB''. However, [[VideoGame/MortalKombatVsDCUniverse Mortal Kombat was done bloodlessly before]] [[VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs more than]] [[VideoGame/Injustice2 once]]. Plus, Snake and Bayonetta, both mature-rated characters that are beloved by Japan and overseas, both managed to get in ''SSB'' and fit in well, while other characters such as Ridley and K. Rool got in due to high overseas demand. The ultimate smoking gun though, is that Ryu, a character from another third-party fighter, was part of ''4'' 's DLC, and has returned for ''Ultimate'' in the base game; and if ''Street Fighter'' 's rivaling franchise were to be represented as well in ''Ultimate'' 's DLC, everything would come full circle. |
| 1784 | |
| 1785 | [[WMG: Going BeyondTheImpossible, Sakurai will quite actually include goddamn ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'' as DLC.]] |
| 1786 | This is guaranteed to ''never'' happen, but if it does, keep in note that Spider-Man was definitely featured on many a Nintendo game before, and [[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom has been in fighting games before]]...but because he did not originate as a video game character at all, he's as far out of the running as you could get. |
| 1787 | |
| 1788 | * '''Jossed:''' He will not be appearing per WordOfGod, although Sakurai did reference VideoGame/MarvelsSpiderMan2 on his Twitter through a screenshot |
| 1789 | |
| 1790 | [[WMG: Or what about ''Franchise/BatMan''?]] |
| 1791 | Again, highly implausible because he didn't originate from a video game. But is it really a coincidence that two of the fighters just so happen to be ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Robin]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/Persona5 Joker]]''? |
| 1792 | |
| 1793 | * '''Jossed:''' He will not be appearing per WordOfGod. Plus we already have a Batman; it's Count Dracula. |
| 1794 | |
| 1795 | [[WMG:''VideoGame/{{Cuphead}}''.]] |
| 1796 | With the announcement of Cuphead being available on the Nintendo Switch, the game's creator expressed his dreams of Cuphead and Mugman joining the Smash roster. Cuphead definitely has move set potential, perhaps with Mugman serving as his echo fighter. Cuphead's Smash introduction trailer will be in the form of an old-timey cartoon to match the quality of the games. |
| 1797 | * Alternately, Cuphead could appear as a Mii Gunner costume (ala [[VideoGame/UnderTale Sans]]) with his finger acting as the gun. |
| 1798 | ** '''Confirmed.''' Cuphead was revealed to be a Mii Costume in the same presentation that revealed Byleth as Challenger Pack 5- complete with finger gun. |
| 1799 | |
| 1800 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/FateExtra Nero Claudius]] and/or [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Mash Kyrielight]] maybe?]] |
| 1801 | Considering ''VideoGame/FateExtellaLink'' came out for the Switch just recently, not to mention the worldwide popularity of ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'', either of the two making it in as DLC shouldn't be out of the question anymore. It helps that FGO's done pretty well for itself in such a a short span of time, as noted [[https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2019/04/06/fatego-has-earned-in-four-years-what-metal-gear-solid-has-in-32 here]]. |
| 1802 | * Given that Visual Novels are counted as Video Games (Hence why Phoenix Wright is even considered), why not [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Artoria Pendragon]], the face of TYPE-MOON, if you're looking for a Fate rep? |
| 1803 | |
| 1804 | [[WMG: Characters from ''Franchise/SouthPark'':]] |
| 1805 | The [[VideoGame/SouthParkTheStickOfTruth New]] [[VideoGame/SouthParkTheFracturedButWhole Kid]] and [[WholesomeCrossdresser Princess Kenny]] join the rooster of fights, especially the latter since he's a homage to Princess Peach and Zelda. They won't have to worry about the New Kid and Princess Kenny saying any profanities since the former [[SilentProtagonist doesn't talk]] and the latter's voice is muffled through his hood. It might be difficult for [[SirSwearsAlot Eric Cartman]] to join the rooster of fighter, but he can serve as an assist trophy where he'll appear shooting lightning from his hands while he swears (censored). They can also have [=ManBearPig=] and/or Mecha Creator/BarbraStreisand serve as a boss battle. |
| 1806 | * '''Jossed:''' Sakurai already stated that characters that don't start in video games first won't get in. |
| 1807 | |
| 1808 | [[WMG:''VideoGame/{{Croc}}'':]] |
| 1809 | Not only did his game start off as a Yoshi game, but it was supposedly the inspiration for ''Mario 64''. |
| 1810 | |
| 1811 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 The Heavy]] will join ''Ultimate'''s roster as DLC.]] |
| 1812 | |
| 1813 | '''''The Heavy''' joins the team!'' |
| 1814 | |
| 1815 | As an alternative to the Pyro suggestion above, the Heavy might serve a decent shout to get in as the Team Fortress representative - after all, he is the character that most would think of when thinking of the franchise, and he appears in the majority of (if not all of) the promotional material. Sure, he comes from an M-rated game, but so have characters like Snake/Bayonetta (and as Ridley's trailer proves, Nintendo haven't exactly shied away from rather graphic and violent scenes themselves), so Heavy getting in doesn't sound too inconceivable. His cartoonish aesthetic and exaggerated weaponry might even have him fit in more. Just remove the aspects of blood and have appropriate voice lines, and the problems are solved. |
| 1816 | |
| 1817 | It could even prove creative ways to get around mobility issues or attacks with the myriad of weaponry - and [[BigEater food]] - he has (the canteens from Mann vs Machine, the Teleport aspect of which could serve as an Up Special; Heavy's Huo-Long Heater creating a ring of fire as a Down Smash; and so on...). |
| 1818 | |
| 1819 | There's also, at the time of this writing, no fully-fledged PC gaming representatives in the roster yet. Given Nintendo's knack as of late for [[UnexpectedCharacter the unexpected]] and some popular choices peppered in between, that sounds like prime opportunity for a PC representative to make the cut - and someone from Team Fortress would ''undoubtedly'' be a bit of a wildcard while still proving popular enough to justify their place. |
| 1820 | |
| 1821 | In any case, if a Team Fortress rep gets in, it would be a safe assumption that their Final Smash would get the entire team involved somehow. |
| 1822 | |
| 1823 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/YokaiWatch Jibanyan]] will inspirit the battle.]] |
| 1824 | |
| 1825 | The monster collection series is big in Japan, has a great history with Nintendo, and could be used as a vehicle to raise awareness in the West. |
| 1826 | |
| 1827 | [[WMG: [[Franchise/RatchetAndClank Ratchet & Clank]] Go Commando!]] |
| 1828 | |
| 1829 | It would be quite the stretch, especially considering Platform/PlayStation / Sony is one of Nintendo's biggest rivals, but Ratchet and Clank are certainly no strangers to fighting in a [[VideoGame/PlayStationAllStarsBattleRoyale 2-D Platform Fighting Crossover Game]]. In fact, said fighting game can be used as a basis for their moveset, such as the Comet Strike and Warmonger being their Side and Up Smash, the Agents of Doom serving as their Side Special, the Suck Cannon being used for their Grab, and their Final Smash could be a faster-paced version of their Level 3 Super, Flight of the Aphelion. The RYNO V and the AP Gauge from PSASBR could be used in a [[LimitBreak KO Uppercut-like]] mechanic, with the catch being that receiving damage won't get Ratchet & Clank AP, only dealing damage. |
| 1830 | |
| 1831 | [[WMG: [[Franchise/{{Danganronpa}} Monokuma]] Bears the Blame!]] |
| 1832 | He could have moves inspired by the various Monokuma variants from ''VideoGame/DanganronpaAnotherEpisodeUltraDespairGirls'' as well as the executions, and his Final Smash would give a unique ironic execution (albeit tamer ones than usual for the series itself) to whichever character gets hit by it. |
| 1833 | |
| 1834 | [[WMG: [[Franchise/TouhouProject Reimu Hakurei]] Takes Flight!]] |
| 1835 | ''Touhou Project'' is one of the few notable indies completely unaccounted for in Smash, and the oldest known Indie series (Even pre-dating ''VideoGame/CaveStory'', the often-quoted godfather of Indies). Even basing her moveset solely on her fighting game appearances by itself would be an interesting character, especially if the mechanics from said games are ported over too.\ |
| 1836 | \ |
| 1837 | ZUN himself, as per a recently-published interview that happened in March, wants ''Touhou'' representation in Smash, so that's not an issue, and her popularity with western fans is actually growing quite quickly.\ |
| 1838 | \ |
| 1839 | Reimu herself, being the main character of the series, is an obvious inclusion should the series actually get representation. |
| 1840 | * Potentially helping the likelyhood of her inclusion is the report of a bug [[https://twitter.com/firubiii/status/1368687633480683523 that is reminiscent]] of the "Grazing" mechanic of the ''Touhou Project'' series. Possibly coincidental worse case scenario. |
| 1841 | |
| 1842 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/GuiltyGear Sol Badguy]] or [[Franchise/BlazBlue Ragna the Bloodedge]]]] |
| 1843 | With ''VideoGame/KunioKun'' receiving representation in the form of spirits, it's not out of the question that Creator/ArcSystemWorks might have also asked for either one of their flagship series to receive playable representation in Smash. Both ''Guilty Gear'' and ''[=BlazBlue=]'' have had substantial impacts on modern [[FightingGame fighting games]], and anime fighting games have more or less become their own subgenre thanks to these two franchises. |
| 1844 | |
| 1845 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/DynastyWarriors Lu Bu or Zhao Yun]]]] |
| 1846 | There are a lot of Warriors games on the Switch, so it wouldn’t be out of place for one of their characters to show up. Zhao Yun is the poster boy for the series, so he would have a good chance from that, but Lu Bu is the ultimate EnsembleDarkHorse for the series, and his reputation as the most powerful character would make him a perfect fit for Smash, and his BloodKnight personality would also fit right in. Either one would also be the first character to primarily use either a halberd or a spear. Their final smashes would obviously be Musou attacks. |
| 1847 | |
| 1848 | [[WMG: VisualNovel Representation.]] |
| 1849 | There are many visual novels and more characters that can potentially have a moveset. Put your prompts here. |
| 1850 | * Someone from VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry. |
| 1851 | * ''VisualNovel/SteinsGate'' could have a character, the series it's part of is pretty popular in Japan and Steins;Gate is the most known game in the West |
| 1852 | * Also, Monokuma and Phoenix Wright, as mentioned in their own sections. |
| 1853 | |
| 1854 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/{{Ys}} Adol Christin]] Wrecks the Competition!]] |
| 1855 | As one of the quintessential Japanese adventure companies, renowned for both their cinematics and their [[Creator/YuzoKoshiro amazing soundtracks]], a Falcom representitive would be only too appropriate, and Adol is a familiar face across nearly all of his games compared to the rotating casts of ''Dragon Slayer'' or ''Legend of Heroes''. Plus, one reasonably consistent trait of Adol would help diversify his moveset from other ''Smash'' people -- he's known for travelling across different lands with different rules of how magic is enacted, and by washing up on the ''Smash Bros.'' shores, he could use attacks original to the series, such as those seen in ''Subspace Emissary''. In essence, he would be the means of integrating attacks exclusive to beings like Primids, Boroborases, or Floows without having to "waste a slot" on a single ''Smash'' mook. And his Final Smash is easy enough to design while integrating his good friend Dogi. |
| 1856 | |
| 1857 | [[WMG: [[VideoGame/{{Hades}} Zagreus Escapes to Smash]]!]] |
| 1858 | ''Hades'' has been one of the biggest success stories for roguelikes and Zagreus would definitely fit right in as a DeadpanSnarker with the cast members. He'd be a MultiMeleeMaster using the Arms of Olympus, his skins calling to mind the various denizens of the Underworld (for example, a mostly gray colored with white haired version for Thanatos), his Final Smash being a Call of Hades where he shows AsskickingLeadsToLeadership and PapaWolf for his idiot son. |
| 1859 | * Alternatively, he could have a mechanic where various Boons drop for him throughout the match, and his final smash is the Call of whichever god he's gathered the most boons from at the time. |
| 1860 | |
| 1861 | [[WMG: VideoGame/SenranKagura]] |
| 1862 | Of course, with Smash Bros being for good boys and girls Frantic and ClothingDamage would have to be removed, so an SK rep can instead focus on the Ninja Arts and Aerial Raves. |
| 1863 | |
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