Line #152 Tropers/KuyanJ


1	An Australian university student.
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3	Some thoughts:
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5	[[PlayingWithATrope Metatropes]] are a sort of trope. Which ones can be done to each other?
6	Playing streight cannot be lampshaded or exaggerated. Many of them cannot be inverted, which is the same as with many other tropes. Lampshading cannot be subverted.
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10	A TheFaceless who simultaneously undergoes CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass, SamusIsAGirl and LukeIAmYourFather would probably also be an ActionMum.
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14	I would like to see a DarkerAndEdgier {{Deconstruction}} which was not very Dark or Edgy, just moreso than the very light original.
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18	As a resident of inner Melbourne, I've grown up with the assumption that retributive justice is not intrinsically good. Also, my brother has provided an argument to support this position:
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20	Assume that if a hypothetical world were possible such that:
21	A being with all non-moral knowledge and understanding of moral standard X, but no other moral knowledge, could not possibly distinguish right from wrong by applying moral standard X, moral standard X is not a complete and good moral framework.
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23	Imagine a world where sentient beings consist of two species of equal population. Members of each species act with complete kindness to all other members of their species. But they treat the other species with (depending on the standard of the standard being disputed) complete disregard of any possible rights or sadistic malice.
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25	If rights depend on virtue, one species is in the wrong and the other in the right.
26	How can one tell which is which?
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28	So, anyway, when I find people on the internet assuming without supporting argument that retributave justice is intrinsically good, I'm a bit bothered. That happens a lot on this site.
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32	It also really bothers me when people talk about a "particularly wallbanging example" of a trope I normally like. It's happened, though I forget where.
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36	A thought about cannon: any work is part of some cannon. A fanfic might not be cannon for the work it's a fanfic of, but it's cannon for the fanfic it'sself.
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40	In a lot of stories with magic (for example GunnerkriggCourt and {{Earthsea}}), it isn't just a way of destroying things and may not even be good for destroying things. So why do some people on this wiki talk as though magic=ability to throw fireballs?
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44	Perhaps relatedly: I'm not all that interested in weapons technology or military tactics. I understand some people care about those things, but personally I won't mind (or know) how much a story messes it up.
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48	Some of the media I like:
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50	Anime:
51	* Howl'sMovingCastle. I would describe it as AdaptationDecay done well, rather than AdaptationDistilation: many of the good bits weren't derived from the book.
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53	Non-Genre Books:
54	* Shadowboxing by Tony Birch
55	* ThePowerAndTheGlory by Graham Greene
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57	Genre books:
58	* everything by DouglasAdams
59	* {{Diskworld}}
60	* GoodOmens
61	* TheCulture
62	* ThursdayNext
63	* ImaginaryNumbers by WilliamFrucht
64	* many things by UrsulaLeGuin
65	* many things by TamoraPierce
66	* HowlsMovingCastle
67	* HarryPotter
68	* MargoLanagan's short stories
69	* KeysToTheKingdom
70	* HisDarkMaterials
71	* TheWindOnFire
72	* Many other books I haven't thought of yet.
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74	Comic strips:
75	* TheFarSide
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77	Fanfiction:
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79	[[folder:ChroniclesOfNarnia]]
80	* CarpetBaggers
81	* TheStoneGryphon
82	[[/folder]]
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84	[[folder:Homestuck]]
85	* As It Should Be
86	* Brainbent
87	* Fed
88	* TheGameAndThoseWhoPlay
89	* The Gods We Used To Know
90	* HerdingCats
91	* OneOfOurSubmarines
92	* SburbGlitchFAQ
93	[[/folder]]
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95	Mythology:
96	* I enjoy mythology as fiction.
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98	TV shows:
99	* TheChaser
100	* DeadRingers
101	* MyHero
102	* TheTwilightZone (watched on DVD)
103	* {{Frontline}} (watched on DVD)
104	* DoctorWho
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106	Webcomics:
107	* {{XKCD}}
108	* OrderOfTheStick
109	* GunnerkriggCourt
110	* MSPaintAdventures
111	* Erfworld
112	* SlightlyDamned
113	* DresdenCodak
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118	Some of the many tropes I generally like:
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120	* DarkIsNotEvil
121	* LightIsNotGood
122	* JigsawPlot
123	* ChekhovsGun
124	* WhereItAllBegan
125	* KarmaHoudini
126	* ProphecyTwist
127	* HypocriticalHumour
128	* InvoluntaryShapeshifting
129	* NotSoDifferent
130	* StableTimeLoop
131	* AlternateUniverse
132	* WhatTheHellHero
133	* ThirtyXanatosPileup
134	* {{Postmodernism}}
135	* SpeculativeFiction
136	* SweetPollyOliver
137	* NegativeSpaceWedgie
138	* CrossoverCosmology
139	* CryForTheDevil
140	* RageAgainstTheHeavens
141	* IAmHeAsYouAreHe
142	* OurMonstersAreDifferent
143	* SpannerInTheWorks
144	* The {{Aversion}} of the FirstLawOfTragicomedies
145	* PostModernMagik
146	* MundaneUtility
147	* FixFic (I really enjoy reading fix fic even when I don't agree with the author's complaints. "How would you have done it" is a good question)
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150	Some tropes I dislike:
151	* {{Gorn}}
152	* All the DoubleStandards
153	** NonMammalMammaries and InsectGenderBender
154	* WhatMeasureIsAMook
155	* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman
156	* AliensAndMonsters
157	* ToiletHumour
158	* MerchandiseDriven
159	* ExecutaveMeddling
160	* AlwaysChaoticEvil (I think to be done in a way I liked, it would need to be done in a more unsual way than it normally is. If known A.C.E. provided a plot twist when a character of an A.C.E. race introduced as an enemy ultimately helped the heroes out of self-interest, that could be good. If it were done in order to facilitate a serious exploration of how this effects society, or of the moral repercussions, I wouldn't mind that. But normally such twists aren't used and the social effects and moral repercussions are almost taken for granted.)
161	* WarOnStraw, especially but not only when I'm in the group strawmanned.
162	* SillyRabbitIdealismIsForChildren
163	* TheChosenOne
164	* FanHaters (not exactly a trope, but it really annoys me)
165	* The TrueArt tropes other than TrueArtSticksItToTheMan and TrueArtIsForeign. I don't agree with those ones either, but they don't bother me as much. I like some [[TrueArtIsAncient ancient artworks]], some intentionally [[TrueArtIsIncomprehensible incomprehensible artworks]] and so on though, and I don't like it when/if people assume that because a work fits one of those attitudes' standards of true are, anyone who likes it has that attitude.
166	* AuthorExistenceFailure (Again, not exactly a trope, but I hate it)
167	* AllJustADream. It even bothered me in AliceInWonderland, which is the only time I know of that it was done convincingly or non something-ex-machena.
168	* DeusExMachena
169	* MedievalStasis
170	* ToiletHumour
171	* NotBloodSiblings. It does not work that way.
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173	Other tropers I know from elsewhere:
174	* {{Tropers/Bohm}}
175	* {{Tropers/orngjce 223}}
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177	Tropes which apply to me
178	* AerithAndBob
179	* TwoFirstNames (my middle name and my surname)
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181	Pages I've started:
182	* ThemeTable (which has since been completely rewritten)
183	* AllWomenAreLustful (I'm currently in the process of slowly going through the wicks so I can later submit it to the trope repair shop. It really needs it.) (eta: I doubt trope repair can fix that page. It's a horrible page that contributes to the confusion around AllMenArePerverts and I'm sorry I made it.)
184	* AMythologyIsTrue
185	* HowKazirWonHisWife
186	* BigLabyrinthineBuilding
187	* SirIndexOfTropes
188	* SlidingScaleOfObjectiveVsSubjectiveGames
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190	Regarding the colors of morality, I think reality is Black White and Grey, with conflicts of all combinations. I like stories with conflicts of any colour, but there should be at least some characters who are grey or white.
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