Line #75 Roleplay/IliadQuest


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2	[[caption-width-right:350:{{It Makes Sense In Context}}.]]
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4	''”Tell me, oh muses, daughters of that primordial origin, of that fated stage where the children of Olympus waged dire battle upon the fields of distant Ilium. The story of those brought by the fair promise made in honor, and the many tragedies and glories that came of it. Come far and wide to flock beneath the banner of plunder and obligation, oaths fulfilled and ruin enacted.”''
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6	Iliad Quest is a ForumQuest by user TehChron on Website/SpaceBattlesDotCom using elements from Sage_Of_Eyes’ [[Roleplay/AGeeksGuideCorporationOfOccultResearchAndExtermination AGG (A Geek’s Guide)]] system to tell an alternative story based on the events of Literature/{{The Iliad}} by Creator/{{Homer}} in a condensed form with a somewhat {{Animesque}} bent, bearing mild [[ShoutOut references]] to the visual novel VisualNovel/{{Fate Stay Night}}.
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8	The story so far revolves around Nikolaos, an Ithacan slave dragged into the battlefields of the Trojan War after his master and owner was recruited for the Achaean warfleet by his king [[Literature/TheOdyssey Odysseus]] after the Oath of Tyndareus was invoked in response to Paris of Troy making off with Helen, the Queen of Sparta, after [[JudgementOfParis his run-in with the three goddesses]] and the {{Apple of Discord}}.
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10	Iliad Quest can be read [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/iliad-quest-agg-alike-epic-cycle.503584/ here.]]
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14	!!Iliad Quest contains the following tropes:
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16	* {{Action Dad}}: Odysseus and Agamemnon are both fathers, as well as two of the greatest heroes of the Achaean side. Palamedes counts for this as well, to a much lesser extent.
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18	* AdaptationalBadass:
19	** King Priam is an embittered, ferocious man and a diplomatic monster whose feat of negotiating the world's first peace treaty earned him a CompellingVoice.
20	** His son Prince Troilus, known mainly for being murdered young, is similarly socially talented [[spoiler:and a Champion of Thanatos]].
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22	* {{Alone with the Psycho}}: Damianos was captured and left with a child expy of Johan Liebert for an unspecified amount of time.
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24	* AnyLastWords:
25	-->'''Hector:''' Y-yeah. ''[[spoiler:[[ScrewThisImOuttaHere L-later.]]]]''
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27	* {{Asshole Victim}}: It really shouldn't be so cathartic to feel extremely relieved about a drunk man belting a young child over some bars. Exceptions can be made for [[TheAntichrist certain people.]]
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29	* {{Back from the Dead}}: [[spoiler:Argos pulls this off several times, through sheer loyalty. Now that's one [[LoyalAnimalCompanion Good Dog.]]]]
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31	* {{Badass Teacher}}: [[Myth/EgyptianMythology Set]], Egyptian God of the desert, storms and violence. [[ImprobableWeaponUser He knows how to throw sand.]]
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33	* BerserkButton: For Diomedes, harming children. [[spoiler:Hence his working with Odysseus to kill Palamedes, and his contempt for Kratos]].
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35	* {{Bling of War}}: Palamedes demonstrates a quite literal example in the form of defensive serpents made from his material wealth.
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37	* {{Canine Companion}}: Argos is the hound of Odysseus, this time accompanying him to the Trojan War. He would go so far as to die for his master. [[spoiler:And Nikolaos. Multiple times.]]
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39	* CaptainOblivious: Damianos has a massive blind spot in regard to just how Nikolaos might be expected to feel about their relationship. Years after (reflexively) pressing a spear to his throat hard enough to scar, it's never occurred to him to give a verbal apology. Exemplified in their ''[[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/to-tame-the-sun-iliad-quest-sidestory.693628/ first meeting]]'', where his reaction to a malnourished boy is to babble about all the amazing treats ''he'' ate that day.
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41	* {{Cassandra Truth}}: Given the setting, it's fairly obvious who this refers to.
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43	* ComicallySmallBribe: Odysseus convinces a thirteen-year-old Damianos to run off to war and seals the deal with [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lokma loukoumades]]. Eight years later, he does it ''again'' to borrow Nikolaos.
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45	* CrashIntoHello: The first encounter with Achilles [[spoiler:and Cassandra]].
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47	* {{Crime After Crime}}: Nikolaos assists Odysseus and Diomedes in their revenge plot to murder Palamedes for [[WouldHurtAChild endangering Odysseus' son's life]] to get him [[TheCallKnowsWhereYouLive to answer the call to arms]] in the First Mustering. When Palamedes' father Nauplius comes calling to investigate the death, he gets killed off as well.
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49	* {{The Dreaded}}: Diomedes, Son of Tydeus, the Fury That Warps the Loom, is one of the most feared Heroes in the Achean army. He has an immense intimidation score, enough to make a son of Heracles falter with only a glare, and has access to War Cries, an ability that can strip Blessings through pure fear.
50	-->'''Diomedes:''' If I have to let go of any one of these things that I am holding to deal with you, I am going to be very, ''very'' annoyed.
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52	* EpicFail: Medea loses the Test of Wisdom to Nikolaos and a ''dog.'' The dog (Argos, to be fair) understands better than her that killing children is wrong.
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54	* {{Expy}}: More than you can shake a stick at.
55	** A number from the ''[[Franchise/FateSeries Fate]]'' franchise. Aside from people "played by" characters, like Odysseus and Nikolaos, characters that resemble their ''Fate'' counterparts include Medea, Hector, Penthesilea, and [[spoiler:William Shakespeare]].
56	** Telemonian Ajax is one of [[WesternAnimation/BeautyAndTheBeast Gaston]] and Philoctetes is similar to his own Disney incarnation.
57	** Agamemnon seems to be getting in on this as well, with his character profile based on [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Ganondorf]].
58	** The Mysterious Mask Merchant reminds one of a certain [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask Happy Mask Salesman]].
59	** Seems like [[spoiler:Hades]] looks and acts like his Disney version, too.
60	** During the assault on the gates of Troy, Diomedes faces off against [[spoiler:[[VideoGame/GodOfWar the Champion of the God of War]]]].
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62	* {{Fate Worse Than Death}}: The Mysterious Mask Merchant explicitly suggests dying and plummeting to the underworld might be better than living under Set’s tutelage.
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64	* FieryRedhead: Downplayed with Nikolaos, a redhead who ''seethes'' with repressed anger. Achilles's hair is actually green, but he still has a reputation as "flame-haired," [[spoiler:which Odysseus exploits when he has Nikolaos impersonate him]].
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66	* FlatWhat: Damianos breaks out in memes at the end of the first event.
67	-->'''Damianos:''' But you know... Cute is Justice.\
68	'''Nikolaos:''' What.\
69	'''Damianos:''' I have decided. That on my name, I shall protect that smile. \
70	'''Nikolaos:''' What.
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72	%%* GuileHero: Odysseus, par for the course.
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74	* HiddenDepths: Spoofed and subverted with Nikolaos's first impression of Little Ajax.
75	-->[He] had an air of...reluctant command to him. As if everything he was doing was some great chore, but he did it anyway out of necessity. No, wait. He was just arrogant.
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77	* {{Hoist By His Own Petard}}: Nearly all of the Achaean camp's internal intrigue, including the attempted harm of his son by Palamedes, is a consequence of Odysseus trying to skip out on the Oath of Tyndareus. He's the one who proposed the oath in the first place.
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79	* HurricaneOfEuphemisms: After Nikolaos takes a hostage.
80	-->'''Odysseus:''' Doin’ a little, plowin’ the new fields, eh? Eh, Nikky-boy? Sowin’ them royal oats? Eh? Eh? Doin’ a lil’ sacking in the sack? Eh? Am I right? ''[Argos bites him]''
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82	* {{Identical Stranger}}: Crops up a lot due to the writers affection for a certain visual novel series. Odysseus and Argos’ appearance is lifted from Caster Cu Chulainn in Fate/Grand Order, and the same is true for Nikolaos, who uses Robin Hood's picture from the same game.
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84	* ImagineSpot: Played for BlackComedy when a thoroughly outmatched Nikolaos, contemplating retreat, pictures [[spoiler:explaining to Agamemnon and Hector that he left their daughter and sister to die]].
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86	* {{Nerves of Steel}}: Nikolaos. He always keeps his wits about him, even when brought to the brink of death.
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88	* {{Nice Job Breaking It Hero}}: Happens more than a few times, usually at the hands of Odysseus. starting with Agamemnon [[TemptingFate angering Artemis with his boasts on a hunt]] and the subsequent attempt to sacrifice his daughter, where Medea intervenes and kills the Achaean prophet Calchas and [[ScrewDestiny destroys their army's divine assurance of victory in the process]]. It only [[SerialEscalation escalates]] from there.
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90	* NoSenseOfDirection: When they first set out for Troy, the Achaean fleet sails right past it and into Mysia, whereupon they essentially shrug and sack it anyway. Then they turn around and overshoot ''again'', somehow ending up in ''Egypt.'' Odysseus is one of the absolute worst cases.
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92	* OnlySaneMan: Nikolaos is one of the few in possession of a potent skill known as ''Common Sense''.
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94	* {{Outside Context Problem}}: Both the Trojan and Achaean forces encounter an unknown third faction of skeletal warriors and wolfmen.
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96	* PapaWolf: [[spoiler:When Calchas demands he sacrifice his daughter, Agamemnon has Medea disembowel ''Calchas'' and sacrifice their destined victory instead]].
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98	* PassedOverInheritance: Priam anticipates handing off the throne to Hector only so he can keep it warm for his favorite son, CreepyChild Troilus.
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100	* {{The Power of Hate}}: Nikolaos earned a heroic Feat, Vendetta, after witnessing the death of Argos at Amphilus hands. It gives him the edge when fighting enemies he has a grudge against, and can be upgraded to draw more power from his ire.
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102	* {{The Promise}}: The Oath of Tyndareus, sworn by all the Achaean kings among Helen's suitors to defend her chosen husband against competitors. It's the reason they're all going to war with Troy in the first place.
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104	* {{Redhead in Green}}: Nikolaos, for practical reasons. He's one of the Achaeans best scouts, and presumably wears his green mottled cloak to better sneak around.
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106	* {{Refusal Of The Call}}: [[TheTrickster Odysseus]] tried to avoid the mass recruitment of the Achaean kings who swore on the Oath of Tyndareus by [[ObfuscatingInsanity faking madness and salting his own fields]]. Palamedes [[NoSell didn't buy it.]]
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108	* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: [[spoiler:Cassandra begs Nikolaos to kidnap her]].
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110	* {{Shout Out}}: Plenty can be found in the story.
111	** The Egyptian Pugilism skill tree revolves around [[AHandfulForAnEye throwing sand in your enemies' eyes]], complete with a perk named [[WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill Pocket Sand.]]
112	** Nikolaos has a tendency to bring down his enemies with an [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim arrow to the knee]].
113	** The Damianos Retrieval Arc, a WholePlotReference to the [[Manga/{{Naruto}} Sasuke Retrieval Arc]].
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115	* {{Sink Or Swim Mentor}}: Set’s training regimen involves tossing his pupils into a desert and forcing them to learn how to fight venomous animals for food.
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117	* {{Spanner in the Works}}:
118	** [[spoiler:Nikolaos has a special quality known as Fateless, where he cannot be seen by the threads of Fate, but can act as he wishes in it. The changes he makes to the story of [Literature/TheIliad] are counted as "Ripples", and range from things such as getting Philoctetes healed and joining the offensive from the beginning, to killing Palamedes.]]
119	** [[spoiler:The Meta faction also counts as well. Though their designs are as of yet unknown, their actions to change the script to their suiting is guaranteed to change the tapestry of Fate.]]
120	** Palamedes himself, in a meta sense. [[spoiler:The randomized aspects of his build gave him the exact skills needed to avoid Odysseus and Diomedes's assassination attempt, leading to an extremely close battle where Nikolaos ended up landing the killing blow. The resulting experience gain shot him all the way up to level 21 without the skill training to match]].
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122	* StupidSexyFlanders: [[spoiler:Dante Alighieri]] has this reaction to Odysseus, [[spoiler:who he'd consigned to a circle of Hell in ''The Inferno'']].
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124	* TimeSkip: In the prologue, eight years pass between the First and Second Mustering.
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126	* ToBeLawfulOrGood: WordOfGod has it that Palamedes is a good man, though what the quest sees of him falls toward Lawful; he threatens the infant Telemachus to force Odysseus to honor his oath, and gives Damianos a rationale for why attacking and pillaging hapless Trojans for the sex scandals of their leadership is totally okay.
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128	* UriahGambit: [[spoiler:After the questionable deaths of Palamedes and Nauplius, Agamemnon puts their remaining troops in the most dangerous part of the assault on Troy and then runs them over with sea serpents for good measure]].
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130	* {{Weak But Skilled}}: Nikolaos. He's merely a slave amongst an army of professional warriors, starting off with one combat skill that was incredibly weak by any standard. However, in the face of men far his greater, his scheming disposition comes to fore. He's very good at setting up his opponents for failure, finding and creating openings to exploit.
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132	* WhatTheHellHero: Called out in the ''event title'', "The Gang Murders a Grieving Father." [[spoiler:Nauplius, rightfully thinking something is fishy about the death of Palamedes, challenges his killers to a TrialByCombat. To avoid this, they sneak onto his ship in the night and murder him in his bed. In the epilogue, Agamemnon covers it up by setting the ship on fire and killing everyone else on board.]] It's hammered in by the interlude covering Achilles' reaction to the aftermath.
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134	* WorthyOpponent: As one of the few also in possession of Common Sense, [[spoiler:Hector]] seems to consider Nikolaos this after the Test of Wisdom.

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