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2	[[caption-width-right:350:So, three smartasses walk into an engineering failure...]]
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4	->''Train good. Car bad.''
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6	The sinking of the MS ''Estonia''. The Bhopal chemical disaster. Three Mile Island. The Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse. The history of mankind is filled with its own history of faulty construction, engineering or planning that ends up costing human lives and requiring updates (or outright creation) of safety codes due to bad design, cost-cutting or failsafes going horribly wrong.
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8	''[[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPxHg4192hLDpTI2w7F9rPg Well There's Your Problem]]'' is an engineering/politics/dark comedy podcast that covers the background, events and fallout of engineering disasters throughout the ages, in particular what faults directly led to the disaster. Originally a side-project of structural engineer Justin "Roz" Roczniak on his [=YouTube=] channel donoteat01 (which uses ''VideoGame/CitiesSkylines'' to showcase urban planning), the podcast features Justin, his former roommate and systems analyst Liam [=McAnderson=][[note]]"Yay, Liam!"[[/note]], pessimistic futurist November[[note]]formerly Alice prior to episode 152[[/note]] Kelly (educated in law and coal engineering, from the ''Podcast/TrashFuture'' podcast) as well as Editor Devon, [[AndZoidberg and the 'Activate Windows' alert on Justin's PC]] (and sometimes Guest) as they pick apart, contextualize and make a ''lot'' of risque jokes about historical failures of engineering from a leftist perspective.
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10	New episodes are released -- [[ScheduleSlip roughly]] -- weekly on the show's [=YouTube=] channel, with monthly episodes exclusive to Patreon backers.
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13	!! This show provides examples of:
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15	* ThirteenIsUnlucky: DiscussedTrope as it pertains to engineers, with Justin noting that some constructions intentionally avoid using the number '13' for floor numbers, terminal numbers, etc. [[SelfDeprecation The show's thirteenth episode was labelled 'episode 12A']], and the hosts have continued to make references to an episode 13 (covering the Tacoma RunningGag) that doesn't exist.
16	* AccidentallyCorrectWriting: In-universe example. In the MS Estonia episode, Justin had drawn a course for the ship with a ridiculously squiggly line complete with an unnecessary loop as a joke, only for November to inform him that ship courses can be surprisingly close to that in real life.[[note]]Specifically, warships engaged in maneuvers.[[/note]]
17	** Also invoked occasionally when someone gets hyperbolic about how far corners were cut or safety was ignored, only for Roz to say, "We'll get to that."
18	* AcidPool: A particularly gruesome Safety Third in the Great Yarmouth Collapse episode involves one with NoOSHACompliance. Viewer Discretion is entreated many times.
19	* AllGermansAreNazis: Liam in particular likes to invoke this trope.
20	-->'''Liam (on the Eschede derailment):''' As someone whose ancestors were killed on German cattle cars, how do ''you'' like it?
21	* TheAllegedCar: Liam's van, which merited a bonus episode.
22	* AmericaWonWorldWarII: Frequently invoked by Liam, usually towards November or any non-American guest.
23	* ArtisticLicenseEngineering: the Bonus episode on the Bradley Fighting Vehcile sadly depends largely on the most popular/ubiquitous sources, all of which are BasedOnAGreatBigLie due to coming from [[Film/ThePentagonWars The Reformers]]. As result its almost all false or framed in a deliberately misleading fashion
24	* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: Discussed frequently due to the huge amount of variables in any historical recreation. The Bonus episode on swords features Doctor Mark Geldof who mentions that real historians are "comfortable with ambiguity" because of how difficult it is to say specific events did or didn't happen with respect to history.
25	* AudienceParticipation: Listeners are invited to submit stories of near-disasters they've had on the job, especially if greater responsibility on their part would not have prevented the incident, and such stories are then read during the "Safety Third" segment at the end of most episodes.
26	* AuthorAppeal: The hosts are self-professed fans of trains and nuclear power.
27	* AuthorTract:
28	** Half the point of the show, being a fusion of engineering history and leftist historical and material analysis (cushioned in a lot of jokes). The show doesn't so much 'turn political' as 'occasionally forgetting to be when going into engineering detail'.
29	** Justin initial introduced the "Safety Third" segment to highlight cases where personal responsibility would ''not'' have averted a close call with danger, specifically as a TakeThat to Creator/MikeRowe and his personal responsibility messages.
30	* BerserkButton:
31	** [=TERF=]s for Liam, by his own admission.
32	** Liam also states in episode 19 that he has ''no respect for fish'' and despises everything about their existence.
33	** Liam (again) is really quite vitriolic towards the Dutch as a nation, at least in part because they lost to Spain in the World Cup, a game he had placed money on.
34	** For Liam (yet again), callousness towards the unhoused is a quick way to incur some bleeped actionable threats.
35	* BlackComedy: The parts of the show that isn't VulgarHumor leans in this direction.
36	* BodyHorror: Distressingly common when discussing disasters involving fragile human bodies and extremely heavy objects made of steel, wood, concrete, or earth. The Byford Dolphin ExplosiveDecompression incident is one such example, but any disaster where the hosts suggest "You wanted to die quickly in this one" tends to qualify.
37	* BreadEggsBreadedEggs: Episode 101 contained a discussion on the history of the abacus, with episode guest [[WebVideo/PhilosophyTube Abigail]] asking what things abacuses were commonly used to count large numbers of.
38	-->'''Liam:''' Grain!\
39	'''November:''' Taxes!\
40	'''Justin:''' Taxes.\
41	'''November:''' Taxes ''on'' grain!
42	** Episode 097, when discussing what was made in Turin: shrouds, Fiats, and shrouds for Fiats.
43	** The ad for the podcast within the podcast also includes "Guns, pickup trucks, and pickup trucks with guns on them."
44	* BreatherEpisode: The hosts like to throw in one of these, usually about a poorly-designed system or at least an accident with no fatalities, after a particularly dark one, for instance following Lac-Magentic with Three Mile Island and following Grenfell Tower with the Newfoundland railway.
45	* BrickJoke: Episode 34 features an altered final slide, implying that the unidentified Gladio operative responsible for the Bologna train station bombing was also responsible for the Tacoma Narrows Bridge disaster.
46	* CatchPhrase:
47	** Roz has a few. Notably, "It's not supposed to be like that" when introducing the episode, or "This is true" in response to some insightful insight from his cohosts. He also has "I was about to say..." when agreeing with someone else's crazy idea. Also "We'll get to that," when someone gets ahead of the script, unintentionally or not.
48	** November: "Dudes rock." when pointing out [[TestosteronePoisoning needless bravado]] as the main reason why a decision was made.
49	** Liam, when angry, frequently offers to drive to someone’s house and beat them to death with their own shoes.
50	* CapitalismIsBad: The show tends to be harshly critical of both free-market and state capitalism, perhaps unsurprisingly coming from self-described socialists of the 'weird left'.
51	* CloneDegeneration:
52	** In episode 31, November notices that the logo for ''The God Damn News'' seems to be getting blurrier with every episode. Justin confirms that he has been in fact copying it from the previous episode since the introduction of the segment and would probably decay until it reaches a single pixel of resolution.
53	** Quality loss due to repeated photocopying is often used as proof that an official document added to the slides is genuine.
54	* ClusterBleepBomb: Liam frequently (almost OnceAnEpisode) has entire sentences bleeped out, albeit it's less swearing and more actionable threats against elected officials that are, in his opinion, responsible for a heinous thing that recently happened.
55	* ConspiracyTheorist: PlayedForLaughs. The hosts occasionally blame the engineering failure of the week on conspiracy theories and cryptids, like Mothman. They have also claimed that the podcast is a UsefulNotes/{{CIA}} front.
56	* ContinuityNod: "Episode 141: Schoharie Limousine Crash" features the surprise return of the Integrated Survivability Onion from "Episode 84: Military [=PowerPoints=]".
57	* CoolButInefficient: Frequently discussed. The hosts dislike this trope, and will usually advocate BoringButPractical solutions whenever it's brought up that 'technological advances' or 'future engineering' will allow for solutions that ignore basic realities of cost or scale.
58	** Discussed in a non-engineering context in Episode 109, with Rhodesian and Zimbabwean soldiers both wearing sneakers in battle. November argues that wearing sneakers for insurgency and counter-insurgency are more effective than combat boots, which provide ankle support and better protection from the elements in rough terrain but are heavy and noisy to move in as a result.
59	* CreatorProvincialism: Both Justin and Liam live in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and the show has a disproportionate number of episodes dedicated to events that occurred in or around Philadelphia.
60	* CulturalPosturing: A frequent part of the show is Justin, Liam, and November good-naturedly sniping at each other over their respective cultures.
61	* CuttingCorners: The show's main BerserkButton, and all too frequently the cause of the disaster of the week.
62	* DeadpanSnarker: All three hosts do this whenever they're not outright explaining things.
63	* DeadlyEuphemism: “I very much hope that this elected official has a nice time.”
64	** from the Siege Warfare episode:
65	-->'''Justin''': Once you have them trapped by the portculis you can rain down upon them...gifts.
66	** from the ICBM warfare:
67	-->'''Justin''': Say you want to give your friends a gift. But you want it to arrive very quickly, so that it's a surprise. And so that you can be sure that your...gift...arrives before their gifts.
68	* DisasterDominoes: Removal of safety systems (often to save money or time on maintenance) are a common feature of the run-up to the disasters in question, to the point where during the Bhopal episode November explicitly compared the isolation of one to pulling a block out of a Jenga stack.
69	* DistractedByTheSexy: Episode 21 crashes to a halt for a solid minute while everyone drools over how nice [[CoolTrain the Pennsylvania GG-1 locomotive]] looks.
70	* DoomItYourself: Tends to be the target of most building disasters. In particular the Seoul mall collapse, as the CEO in charge of the building decided to make a bunch of structural alterations to maximize profits and fired any architects or engineers who tried to warn him that his design was going to have lethal consequences.
71	* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: The first episode has no Liam, no pronoun checks, it doesn't even have a name - it's called "Untitled Engineering Disaster Podcast-like content".
72	* ExpospeakGag: Used by Justin repeatedly, when he starts out using engineering terms and then simplifies the language several degrees using silly but descriptive words that are much easier to grasp by laymen.
73	* ExtraLongEpisode:
74	** The show started out usually sticking to a 60-90-minute length at worst, but starting with Bhopal (which was split into two 90-minute halves) extra long episodes passing 120 minutes have become increasingly common. The longest regular episode so far (on the Titanic) runs for a grand total of 335 minutes across two parts, with November joking the episode is karma for the Gulf State episode below.
75	** Episode 54 (on Gulf State Vanity Projects) ran so long that November tried to forcibly end it by doing a closing speech. Justin soldiered on anyway (to what is ''thankfully'' the last slide).
76	** [[spoiler:Absolutely subverted by [[AprilFoolsDay Episode 62, which only ran 6 minutes and 31 seconds.]]]]
77	** Episode 98 is 3 hours 11 minutes, part 1 of 3 on the Penn Central Railroad. They promised/threatened 10 hours of material. In the end it clocked in at over 11 hours.
78	* FailsafeFailure: The engineering disasters are occasionally caused by this.
79	** The episode on the Boeing 737 Max mentioned that one reason for the model's crashing tendencies is because of an anti-stall system that would occasionally pull the plane's nose down even when the plane wasn't stalling. Worse, it was an undocumented feature, meaning that the pilots weren't aware that trying to pull the plane up would only cause the system to compensate ''more'' in return.
80	** The Kursk submarine disaster, which saw the titular K-141 Kursk nuclear submarine horribly kill its crew after a torpedo explodes its front half, the trio notes that the model sub had a hatch that would drop a buoy up to the surface to signal its position if something goes awry... only to then note that the hatch had been welded shut because someone thought that giving off a nuclear submarine position away could be problematic in a real life combat situation. This means that the rest of the north sea fleet, which was on exercise on more or less the exact same location and could've easily rescued them, couldn't find the sub. By the time the rest of the fleet managed to locate it, [[FromBadToWorse someone had managed to accidentally explode a potassium rebreather and light the surviving section on fire]], killing the remaining crew in the process.
81	* TheFoodPoisoningIncident: The focus of the bonus episode on the JAL flight where 197 people fell ill after eating contaminated omelets.
82	* FreezeFrameBonus: "Episode 146: Mount Everest" has one that doubles as a TakeThat, when Devon's caption for [[SnobbyHobbies Dick Bass]] briefly says "Dick Ass".
83	* FreudianTrio:
84	** Superego: Justin. Calm, analytical, keeps the show on track.
85	** Ego: November. [[DeadpanSnarker Deadpan Snarker]]. A bit more emotionally charged than Justin but much less than...
86	** Id: Liam. Most likely to cut through the politesse and go on a rant or deliver a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech The Reason You Suck Speech]].
87	* FunWithSubtitles: Enabling the closed captioning on the [=YouTube=] videos gives subtitles complete with a humorous running commentary on the episode itself.
88	* HehHehYouSaidX:
89	** In the episode on the Hyatt Regency walkway collapse, they encounter a diagram where the force on a nut is labeled "P", resulting in the caption "P on nut". Cue much laughter from the hosts.
90	** The 1943 Frankford Junction Wreck episode has Liam snicker when Justin states that the oily rags in a journal bearing "continuously lubricate a rotating shaft". Justin himself gets in on the joke by pretending he doesn't see the innuendo and insisting this is all SeriousBusiness.
91	* HowWeGotHere: A common way for episodes to start is with a slide showing the disaster's aftermath, with Justin helpfully pointing out what is obviously wrong in the picture and usually adding [[CaptainObvious "It's not supposed to be that way."]]
92	* HulkSpeak: The hosts tend to deliver [[SpoofAesop the 'lesson']] of the episode in hulk language, as "X bad. Y good."
93	* IHaveAFamily: The hosts jokingly refer to Episode 143 (on the Corredor Interoceánico) as "the episode that gets us all killed" due to the LongList of offended parties it amasses over its runtime. In response, Gareth seizes every opportunity to interject that "I have a child."
94	* InconsistentEpisodeLengths: The podcast has no fixed or even target episode lengths or standard periods for dividing an episode into parts for release over multiple weeks. Early episodes are usually roughly an hour, but by 2024 an episode can easily be anywhere from an hour and a half to four hours (mostly hovering somewhere near two hours) and it's not uncommon for such an episode to not even be past The Goddamn News by the time an early episode would have been entirely over.
95	* INeedAFreakingDrink:
96	** At multiple points throughout Episode 54, Liam audibly uncorks a bottle of bourbon as the vanity projects being discussed get more and more ridiculous, before eventually announcing that he has drained the bottle completely.
97	** During Episode 60 Liam repeatedly declares that he's being driven to drink by various examples of corruption involving the Cuomo family.
98	* InherentlyFunnyWords:
99	** In the SEPTA episode (Episode 3), all the hosts get quite a kick out of a neighborhood near Philadelphia called "Swampoodle."
100	** In the Le Mans episode (Episode 45), November gets quite the kick out of "berms."
101	** Before the Byford Dolphin episode gets gruesome, the hosts can't help but snicker every time they have to say "dykkerklokken" (Norwegian for "diving bell").
102	** Justin can't say the words "Meat Deck Crew" without laughing.
103	** "Blimp" is called one in the Hindenburg disaster episode.
104	* InsistentTerminology: Episode 68 on the Nedelin Catastrophe led to the crew using 'gift-giving' as an euphemism for nuclear warfare and insisting that [=ICBMs=] exist to deliver gifts to one's friends and reciprocate gifts given to you as fast as possible. In other episodes this gradually extended to any kind of violence, including a way to avoid actionable threats. Nobody's fighting, they're having a nice time with their friends! We don't have any issues with Nazis, in fact we hope they have a nice time.
105	* JewishComplaining: Liam (who is Jewish) usually leans into the kvetching whenever a God Damn News segment involves Jews in any way, very much playing into the stereotype for laughs.
106	* JokeAndReceive: On occasion, November or Liam will jokingly suggest a ridiculous engineering solution, only for Justin to explain that, yes, people actually did try that. For example, in their episode on the Ashtabula Horror, when Justin mentions how early railroad practices were based off ones for canals, November makes a joke about canal locks for trains, prompting Justin to explain that there was indeed a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_railway system that could in fact be described as canal locks for trains]].
107	* JustPlaneWrong: Liam in particular loves the A-10 and frequently suggests it as a viable alternative to a given problem, from the F-35 to commercial passenger liners.[[note]] The A-10 was outdated before its first flight, and is responsible for more friendly fire incidents and civilian casualties than any other US aircraft, in large part due to its deliberate simplicity and enormous cannon making it impossible for pilots to reliably use. The cannon can only land hits within an 80 foot circle of the target 80% of the time, the pilot has basically no sysyems to identify targets and has to use Binoculars to see ground targets, and the only recorded tank kills the A-10 has are all using the same bombs any US aircraft can use, not its gun. [[/note]]
108	* LaughingMad: Justin pulls off a truly terrifying one lasting nearly a full minute upon being informed, in the ''middle'' of the 9/11 episode, that Ruth Bader Ginsburg had died mere months before the 2020 election and paved the way for a far-right majority on the US Supreme Court.
109	* LaymansTerms: Tend to come up a lot, with {{technobabble}} being generally frowned upon.
110	* LeftItIn: A frequent source of jokes, with broadcasting breaks and asides being left in despite one of the hosts saying it will be excised or removed.
111	* LighterAndSofter: The bonus episodes fall into this as DoomItYourself projects tend not to hurt many people beyond the builder's pride. There's also the episode on the Atmospheric Railway, which November described as a 'palette cleanser' after realizing its AwesomeButImpractical nature meant it never left the pilot project stage and thus never had a chance to hurt anyone, beyond a hypothetical horde of rats that got sucked into its pipes and one terrified railway engineer who unexpectedly set a new land speed record when the system was turned on while the "engine" was disconnected from the rest of the train.
112	* LikeAnOldMarriedCouple: Rocz and Liam have a tendency to bicker in this fashion since they have been friends since college and formerly roommates. November even called this trope by name during their first live show.
113	* MasterOfNone: Their opinion of the V-22 Osprey--it combines the dangers of both planes and helicopters while also bringing some exciting (read: fatal) new ones to the table, having the benefits of neither, and being ''ridiculously'' expensive in the bargain.[[note]] In contrast to their coverage of other military equipment such as the Bradley IFV this conclusion is extremely accurate. The Osprey suffers from many of the same weaknesses as Tandem Rotor craft such as the Chinook and the Sea Knight, exacerbating them further due to the design and orientation of its rotors, [[ExaggeratedTrope and then exacerbating them even further]] by the decision to also make it transform and attempt to fly with wings smaller than a typical single engine civilian craft. This effectively means it is fighting ''against'' multiple realities of physics that helicopters and fixed wing planes work in tandem ''with'' to fly.[[/note]]
114	* MedalOfDishonor: With rare exceptions, the pinned comment in each episode goes to the dumbest or most overly critical comment.
115	* MovingBeyondBereavement: In the episode on the Winchester Mystery House, Justin says that the official story is that Sarah Winchester moved to California on advice of a medium and convinced herself that she needed to build a huge mansion to house the ghosts of those killed by Winchester rifles...but he also offers his own interpretation that she was depressed after so much of her family died and wanted a change of scenery and a hobby, making the house an example of this trope.[[note]]Indeed, mainstream historians have pointed out that there's very little evidence for this "haunted by ghosts" story, arguing that she instead moved to the West Coast to be with the rest of her family. Most of the ghost stories appear to be nothing more than PR from the people who turned the Winchester Mystery House into a tourist attraction.[[/note]]
116	* NoJustNoReaction: During the episode on the Byford Dolphin accident, this was November's response when Justin began describing the effects of ExplosiveDecompression on the divers.
117	* NoOSHACompliance:
118	** Justin tends to bring up U.S. building and safety codes as CulturalPosturing whenever the incident of the week happens outside the U.S., and points out how the construction in question would be illegal under current U.S. law.
119	** Grenfell Tower had one stairwell and no sprinkler system in ''2017,'' which both of the American presenters found genuinely shocking, only compounded with November noting that in the UK sprinkler systems are almost non-existent.
120	** Averted at the Lake Peigneur salt mine where the emergency evacuation of all salt miners before the lakebed collapse prevented any human casualties. "Sometimes safety procedures just ''work.''"
121	** This trope is the theme of all the emailed stories of horrifying work conditions provided by the viewers as part of the ''Safety Third'' segment.
122	* NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer: When the fire alarm in November's building goes off during the episode on the Station Nightclub fire.
123	--> "NOT A BIT - THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED."
124	* OnceAnEpisode: Roz trying for Socratic questioning ("What is...?") only for it to go nowhere fast. Usually right after the news segment has been dealt with.
125	* OutsideContextProblem: Discussed quite heavily in the episode covering the Cavalese Cable Car Disaster, specifically in how it applies to the field of engineering. There are certain problems and disasters that while ''technically'' possible, are so unlikely that it's absurd to assume that an engineer even considered them, much less designed for them. Like say... [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill a military aircraft flying through the lines of a cable car at over 500 mph.]]
126	* PhraseCatcher: "Yay, Liam!" for Liam. Originally began life as Liam's introduction during the pronoun check until the other hosts and the fans began using it.
127	* RailEnthusiast: The entire cast are enthusiastic about trains, featuring multiple train accidents and rail infrastructure on the podcast and happily debating the merits of rail transit during off-topic discussions.
128	* ReassignedToAntarctica: The fate of the regional manager in the "Safety Third" segment of Episode 48, who is sent to Suffolk County, NY, which is stated to be a place where the company in question sends its most useless employees.
129	* RecklessGunUsage: The Safety Third segment from Episode 95 features a pair of these stories, to the great amusement of the crew (especially November, who had been in the Cadets at school).
130	* RedOniBlueOni: Liam is the red to Justin and November's blue.
131	* RippedFromTheHeadlines: ''The God Damn News'' segment, introduced in episode 22.
132	* RunningGag[=/=]OncePerEpisode:
133	** The 'Activate Windows' alert visible on Justin's slides. [[InsistentTerminology He has a license, he just can't find out where to enter his code.]]
134	*** In episode 19, it is nowhere to be found but Justin doesn't understand why as he has still not found out how to enter his activation key into his system. It is briefly replaced by a "Discord wants to share your screen" warning.
135	*** As of episode 49, Justin was given a recycled Windows key from a twitter contact so that [[PutOnABus Activate Windows will no longer appear on the show.]]
136	*** [[TheBusCameBack However, 'Activate Windows' is back as of episode 133]]. Liam attributes it to Roz being some form of a WalkingTechbane.
137	** The sentence 'shake hands with danger' is always accompanied by the guitar riff from the Caterpillar safety video of the same name.
138	** [[OnceAnEpisode Every episode]] begins with a pronoun check of the three hosts and any eventual guests. [[note]]Justin is 'he/him', Liam is 'he/him', November is 'she/her', and editor Devon is they/them.[[/note]]
139	** The OnTheNext segment at the end of every episode promises the same topic, which never actually comes. This was the Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse until it was covered in the 2021 live show, then the Boston Molasses Disaster until the 2022 live shows. Since then, they've promised an episode on Chernobyl.
140	** Justin's terrible, ''terrible'' MS Paint drawings whenever the hosts can't find a suitable diagram.
141	** Liam leading the hosts in booing when an unpopular person or group is mentioned.
142	** Liam attempting to turn the show into a sports podcast.
143	*** Liam calling out Twitter users by name when he disagrees with their sports takes.
144	** The podcast hosts alienating or insulting the nation the disaster of the week is set in, and usually mentioning that they're going to get cancelled by said nation.
145	** Anyone from the area of the Low Countries is assumed to be constantly wearing Zwarte Piet-style blackface.
146	** Almost any time someone avoids a deadly disaster by missing or leaving before the event prompts a comparison to the ''Franchise/FinalDestination'' films.
147	** Referring to anything having to do with radioactivity as "Spicy Rocks".
148	** Liam asking "Have YOU been to the Moon?" when the hosts start to trash-talk something American-made.
149	*** Liam also takes credit for the defeat of the Nazis in [=WW2=], saying "You're welcome!" and bragging about bombing runs.
150	** November responding "just make it stronger/more rigid" when a structure that is made to bend slightly under load is brought up. Justin's explanations that this would make the structure ''more'' dangerous never persuade her.
151	** November quantifying project budgets and compensation settlements in terms of how many Xboxes that money could buy.
152	** References to 'rat/horse viscera' (from the episode 17, "The Atmospheric Railway"[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaRVy31lTlQ]]), 'jellied dog' (from the "Safety Third" segment of Episode 37, "Costa Concordia"[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bvltmNno_A]], which was on the cleanup of an old biochemical lab), or 'soup-like homogenate' (ditto, regarding an advertisement used to illustrate the sort of toxic waste the storyteller had found on-site).
153	** November controls the sound drops. Aside from the music for "The God Damn News" and "Safety Third" segments, she occasionally throws in the Soviet National Anthem[[note]]when the Soviet Union does something silly/awesome[[/note]], and "The East Is Red".
154	** When covering aeronautical disasters, the pilots are assumed to spend all their flight time getting wasted on martinis and sexually harassing their flight crews.
155	** Introducing a photo of that episode's disaster and explaining "it's not supposed to look like that."
156	** Liam brushing off any structural damage to the subject of the episode, especially parts falling off or the omission (deliberate or accidental) of important structural components that may be common to other similar vehicles, devices, or structures, with the words "saves weight".
157	** Anyone mentioning that they don't like the sound of an increasingly specific date/time being given, as the more specific the date and time, generally the closer events are getting to the actual disaster.
158	** Glossing over the details of a particularly gruesome death, usually from crushing or explosion, by simply saying the victim was rendered into "a soup-like homogenate".
159	** Whenever a person/place involved in the disaster has an unusual name that sounds made-up, November's reaction upon hearing it for the first time is usually a dismissive "No, it's not!" This also extends to oddly-named towns/streets/people in her home country, to which we usually get a tired "Is Britain ''real''?"
160	** "The [bodily function] that changes you as a person" which November points out as having entered their shared lexicon.
161	** Confusing Thomas A. Scott, president of the Pennsylvania Railroad between 1874–1880, with Creator/TomScott.
162	** The hosts berating the writer of the episode's Safety Third for incorrectly guessing there was a guest when they don't have one, for failing to assume they would have a guest when they do have one, for being cowards and hedging their bets with some statement "possible guest", for assuming the whole crew is there even if the episode has run long and Liam has had to leave, or for any other failure to properly predict the makeup of the crew at the 2-4 hour mark in an episode.
163	** The hosts commenting that something they said is going to get added to the quotes page on Website/ThisVeryWiki.
164	** Whenever the idea of looking at blueprints to determine some detail about the building's construction is mentioned, Justin says that they have been stored under a leaky radiator for decades.
165	** Liam trying to get sponsored by buysnus.com until eventually giving up after a few dozen episodes.
166	* SarcasmFailure: It takes a ''lot'' to get the showrunners to stop snarking, but the MS Estonia and Grenfell Tower Fire episodes got to that point during the end segment, as well as throughout the Bhopal two-part episode.
167	* ShoutOut:
168	** The MS Estonia, which sank when it lost its bow visor, gets references to the famous Clarke and Dawe skit "The Front Fell Off."
169	* SilentSnarker: Devon, who started editing the podcast around episode 100, adds their own commentary text on occasion.
170	* SitcomArchNemesis: Architect Santiago Calatrava for the whole podcast, frequently criticized for his ridiculously impractical projects that are frequently criticized for their questionable utility, and ridiculed for how silly they look and how cartoonishly impractical they tend to get.
171	* SouthernFriedGenius: Justin is from Virginia, tends to lean into his accent and uses a lot of LaymansTerms to explain engineering.
172	* SuspiciouslySpecificDenial: The showrunners definitively do thorough research and don't just copy the episode texts wholesale from ''Website/{{Wikipedia}}''. ([[ImmediateSelfContradiction For one, Wikipedia articles on engineering aren't padded out with seven hours of dick jokes.]])
173	* TakeThatAudience: Borrowing from Trashfuture's playbook, listeners are derisively referred to as "the hogs".
174	* TelegraphGagStop: Used in the Quebec Bridge episode (Episode 14).
175	-->'''November:''' BRIDGE HAS CRACK STOP. Ah, the crack in the bridge has stopped.
176	* TemptingFate: The Atmospheric Railway episode was a LighterAndSofter episode that November referred to as a "palette cleanser", unless the next slide showed that the railway killed 500 people. Luckily Fate didn't come to collect on this one because the answer is none; although the rats don't make out so well.
177	** The guest of the Cuba embargo episode says he'll keep things short or they'd be here for like four hours. The running time of the episode as released was 4:10 (considering editing, can be safely assumed to be over five).
178	* TestosteronePoisoning: Discussed. One of November's {{Catch Phrase}}s is "Dudes rock", its meaning ranging from needless masculine bravado to an expression of adoration over someone's willingness to act goofy.
179	* ThisIsGonnaSuck:
180	** Every time Justin tries to pronounce a European name you can hear Liam and November groan a little.
181	** The hosts react this way whenever the construction history of the weekly topic mentions "a new material stronger than steel."
182	** In later episodes, Liam and November start reacting with trepidation whenever Justin says a specific date, as it signals that the disaster under discussion is about to occur. Even more so if he mentions time as well (the hosts later would joke that the specificity of the date and time mentioned dictates the severity of the disaster).
183	** Relatedly, November ''hates'' when death tolls are given as estimations, since that inevitably indicates that the disaster was violent enough to result in scattered human remains instead of distinct bodies.
184	** Every time a disaster starts as a project designed by a "self-taught engineer."
185	* UncertainAudience: [[invoked]] In the Santiago Calatrava episode, the hosts are both amused and baffled by the selection of luxury retail stores inside the Oculus PATH station, feeling that most people aren't able to casually shop at places like Hugo Boss while they're waiting for their train, and people who ''can'' probably won't do it at a transit hub mall.
186	* UglyCute: In-universe, November describes the Morgantown personal transit system with such terms in the "Las Vegas Loop" episode.
187	* VerbalTic: Justin has a tendency to refer to times early in the day as "[time] AM in the morning," much to Liam's chagrin.
188	* WalkingTechbane: Justin has a number of odd recurring computer-related issues, such as running out of storage space and the Activate Windows message.
189	* WeAreExperiencingTechnicalDifficulties: Whenever a long section of the recording has to be removed for whatever reason (usually for being libellous or containing a long string of actionable threats against certain named individuals), Devon has taken to throwing up a parody of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Test_Card_F BBC Test Card F]] with Justin's face superimposed over Carole Hersee's.
190	* YouDoNotWantToKnow: The Byford Dolphin incident was so gruesome (due to the ExplosiveDecompression) that Justin repeatedly entreats both his cohosts and listeners ''not'' to look it up.
191	* [[YoungerThanTheyLook Younger Than They Sound]]: About half the comments on the New London, Texas School Explosion are people commenting their shock that the hosts are all only in their late 20s, with most of them seeming to think Rocz in particular was at least 40.
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