Line #74 Main/RapIsCrap


1	->''"I like {{country music}}\
2	I love country girls\
3	I like Music/WillieNelson\
4	And don't forget about Music/{{Merle\|Haggard}}\
5	There's only one thing that I hate\
6	'Cause it's a bunch of crap\
7	I... I... I hate rap!"''
8	-->-- '''Wrestling/CurtHennig and the West Texas Rednecks''', "Rap is Crap (I Hate Rap)"
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10	From the moment it exploded into the mainstream in TheEighties, HipHop has been a genre awash in controversy. Often attacked by MoralGuardians as [[TheNewRockAndRoll violent, sexist, depraved, and corrupting the youth]], and by fans of other genres as musically simplistic and built on style over substance, hip-hop took a long time to gain the respectability afforded to its peers. Even with the genre's growing commercial popularity and the rise of dedicated hip-hop radio stations, many pop stations geared towards an older and more "mainstream" listener base (i.e. middle-aged and older white people) would market themselves as playing "all the hits, without the rap" and go so far as to edit out the [[AWildRapperAppears rap verses]] from pop songs that had them.
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12	And for much of that time, this skepticism was reflected in media depictions of hip-hop. Hence, we got this trope, which is when a work, or a character within a work, thinks that rap is, well, crap. Rappers are depicted as inferior musicians to those in other genres, particularly those which the work especially likes ({{rock}} and {{country\|Music}} are popular here), and their personal lives will be messes of {{gangbang\|ers}}ing and LowerClassLout behavior that may or may not end with their death and that of everyone around them. The culture of hip-hop, meanwhile, will resemble a mix of the worst excesses of '90s GangstaRap and modern TrapMusic, filled with [[DamnItFeelsGoodToBeAGangster guns, crime]], [[SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll sex, drugs]], [[MalcolmXerox militant politics]], [[CopHater hatred of the police]], and the glorification thereof.
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14	Alternatively, this may be the viewpoint of one character, who will be portrayed in one of two ways. More sympathetic examples are likely to voice all of the above criticisms and stand as voices of reason and good taste compared to rappers and their fans. Less sympathetic ones, on the other hand, are likely to be depicted as ignorant {{hypocrite}}s who gloss over similarly problematic lyrics and behavior from their own favorite musicians (expect a reference to Music/JohnnyCash shooting a man in Reno just to watch him die, or to the entire SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll trope), and may be motivated by racism against the mostly black musicians of hip-hop. If the critic is black themselves, the emphasis will more likely be on TheGenerationGap, with the one who hates rap being older and either trying to [[StopBeingStereotypical teach the kids a moral lesson]] (if sympathetic) or a grouch who hates anything new and may even have BoomerangBigot tendencies (if not).
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16	These days, it's largely a DiscreditedTrope, especially among younger generations, who have grown up with hip-hop as a mainstream genre of music and largely give it the same level of respectability they do to and other genres like rock, pop, jazz, and so on. Its critical appraisal has improved, too, with a greater recognition of the role of hip-hop in black culture in the US in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. Straight examples of this trope have grown rarer, and the few that do exist rarely portray it in a sympathetic light; with people who hate rap mostly depicted as old-fashioned and narrow-minded at best, and irrationally racist and bigoted at worst. Nowadays, you're more likely to see fans of ''older'' types of hip-hop badmouthing newer ones, such as [[TrapMusic Trap]] and [[EmoMusic Emo Rap]] and the aforementioned TrapMusic, but that is [[NostalgiaFilter a different trope entirely]].
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18	Not to be confused with a PissTakeRap, which is what happens when a DreadfulMusician tries to rap, though a character who hates hip-hop is likely to see ''all'' rap as this, and may perform a deliberately bad one in order to make their point.
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20	Compare DiscoSucks, an earlier backlash against a genre of popular music, and RockIsAuthenticPopIsShallow.
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22	Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease As noted above, a lot of people used to believe this trope to be TruthInTelevision, and let's just leave it at that.
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24	!!Examples:
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28	* An amusing example in ''ComicBook/ThePunisherMAX'': Barracuda, a ScaryBlackMan and hardcore criminal who one would think loves rap music, [[StereotypeFlip actually hates it]] and [[RealMenWearPink would rather listen to slow love songs]]. He proves it when he catches up with another gangster who owes him money. Said gangster is cruising the streets with his crew, rap music blaring out of the car stereo. Barracuda kills his crew with an M-60, then directs his attention to his target. Before getting down to business, Barracuda has a request:
29	-->'''Barracuda:''' Motherfucker, turn off that ''bullshit''.
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33	* ''ComicStrip/BloomCounty'': In one strip, during the 1988 election season, Opus is seen rapping, and in the next panel, he's BoundAndGagged while the narration talks about the "Rap Ban" treaty. In the next strip, at the meeting of the Meadow Party caucus, Milo asks who they're going to nominate as President, now that the "Rap Ban" issue has been disposed with, and Opus, rapping again, nominates Jesse Jackson, whom he describes as "Rhyme-Master Jesse". The "Rap Ban" treaty is brought up again, along with the thorny issue of enforcement.
34	-->'''Milo''': Toss him in the thorns.\
35	'''Opus''': Now, don't go riot/I be quiet.
36	* ''ComicStrip/{{Curtis}}'': Curtis's father has nothing but disdain for rap music and is constantly butting heads with his son over his love of the genre. Ironically, despite the strip's attempts to portray this as a product of a generation gap, ComicBookTime means he now [[TwoDecadesBehind would've grown up when rap was becoming popular]].
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40	* A major part of the plot of ''Film/KrushGroove'', a RomanAClef about the founding of Creator/DefJamRecordings in TheEighties, is the difficulties Russell Simmons and Music/RickRubin have in getting a loan because so many people looked down on rap music.
41	* ''Film/TheLastBoyScout'': Joe clearly doesn't like rap music, and makes a few quips about his disdain for it here and there.
42	-->'''[[PsychoForHire Milo]]:''' You think you're so fucking cool, don't you? Well, just once, I would like to hear you ''scream''. In ''pain''.
43	-->'''Joe:''' Play some rap music.
44	* ''Film/LetItShine'': Cyrus's father is a pastor who finds rap and hip-hop to be corrupting the youths. This means Cyrus has to hide his own interest in and talent at rap, and when hip-hop pop-star Roxie revisits the town and church, she's shamed in front of everyone else. He eventually relents after hearing more of their music.
45	* ''Film/QueensLogic'' has this exchange at a party, while hip-hop music is playing:
46	-->'''Grace''': Got stress, huh?\
47	'''Al''': Who wouldn't? This music would make Creator/WillRogers punch a nun.
48	* ''Film/StraightOuttaCompton'' accurately depicts the moral panic that surrounded GangstaRap in the late '80s and early '90s, and how Music/{{NWA}} leaned into it to [[NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity become even more successful]].
49	* ''[[Film/TheToxicAvenger Citizen Toxie: The Toxic Avenger IV]]'': The film features a pair of news anchors, played by Jason and Randy Sklar, speculating on why the Tromaville School for the Very Special was targeted. One of them decides to blame the tragedy on rap music and comments on how he'd put a C in front of it to turn it into "you know what".
50	* In ''WesternAnimation/TurningRed'', Ming thinks that 4*Town are "glittery delinquents", abhors their "gyrations" and calls their discography not music but "filth".
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54	* {{Exploited\|Trope}} in the ''Series/BurnNotice'' episode "Bad Blood". Sam comes up to rap mogul and ex-{{gangbanger}} Sweet Valentine, the mutual boss of the client and the MonsterOfTheWeek, and lays into him about how he's "what's wrong with America" etc. [[WeNeedADistraction This is meant as a distraction]] to get Valentine's bodyguards to run Sam off so that Fiona can get Valentine into their car at gunpoint [[spoiler:so they can take him to hear the Monster of the Week's EngineeredPublicConfession]].
55	* The ''Series/{{Friends}}'' episode [[Recap/FriendsS8E10TheOneWithMonicasBoots "The One with Monica's Boots"]] has Joey talk to his pregnant sister Dina about getting married to her boyfriend Bobby, who only has his band, Numbnuts, as a career. When Joey briefly entertains the idea of her marrying Bobby, he answers that his band plays gangsta rap. Cue the LaughTrack, though it's not clear how much it's this trope and how much it's the fact that Bobby [[PrettyFlyForAWhiteGuy is a white middle-class kid]].
56	* ''Series/TheGoldbergs'': A RunningGag in the series is the family patriarch Murray Goldberg having to put up with whatever rap music hijinks his son Barry throws at him, much to his dismay since it's very clear that Murray doesn't like rap. It's mostly PlayedForLaughs since Murray is supposed to be a comedic representation of stereotypical fathers back in the 1980s.
57	* One of the goals of the Dutch reality show ''Series/HollandInDaHood'' was to portray the worst that the Dutch hip-hop scene had to offer, [[PointAndLaughShow simply for the amusement of the viewer]]. Specifically, eight PrettyFlyForAWhiteGuy Dutch men were sent to Los Angeles, told that they were competing for a record deal with Def Jam, when in truth the show was mocking the hell out of them. The Dutch hip-hop scene wasn't pleased, to say the least.
58	* Subverted in ''Series/{{Lucifer}}''. Lucifer tells a rapper that his music is crap, then clarifies that he doesn't mean rap in general - he means that ''this particular'' rapper's music is crap.
59	-->'''Lucifer:''' When I say "your music" I mean ''your'' music, not the music made by other black people. Without the {{blues}} there'd be no "devil's music" whatsoever. There are, of course, many giants in the field, just not ''you''... am I being clear?
60	* ''Series/NewsRadio'': In the season three episode "Rap", Bill is initially a professed fan of rap because his radio settings are so poorly adjusted that the songs are completely incomprehensible. When his settings are fixed so he can understand the lyrics, however, he is horrified that anybody can just walk into a store and buy a rap album, believing they should only be sold in the classified ads in the back of porn magazines. He plans to do an editorial about how rap is "cancerous to today's youth", ignoring Dave's observation that he's about a decade behind the thousands of other journalists who've made the same claims. Jimmy calls in Chuck D from Music/PublicEnemy to appear on Bill's show to offer a rebuttal, knowing that Bill's obsessive need to suck up to celebrities will put an immediate end to his outrage.
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64	* Mentioned in Music/TheArrogantWorms song "My Voice is Changing":
65	-->''Pretty soon I bet I'll be right into heavy metal,\
66	but my parents say "at least it isn't rap"''
67	* Downplayed by "Royals" by Music/{{Lorde}}. It was written more as a critique of contemporary pop music in general for being shallow [[InDaClub party music]] that promoted ConspicuousConsumption, but most of the cultural reference points she uses are lifted directly from the GlamRap of the 2000s.
68	-->''But every song's like 'gold teeth, Grey Goose, trippin' in the bathroom, bloodstains, ball gowns, trashin' the hotel room\
69	We don't care, we're driving Cadillacs in our dreams\
70	But everybody's like Cristal, Maybach, diamonds on your timepiece, jet planes, islands, tigers on a gold leash\
71	We don't care, we aren't caught up in your love affair''
72	* The Pacewon song "I Declare War" has a video about an evil white mayor (amusingly played by a [[RetroactiveRecognition pre-fame]] Music/{{Eminem}}) who has banned hip-hop music, sadistically smashing records for fun. Pacewon storms the building and overthrows him, taking over the city.
73	* Music/{{Prince}}'s "Dead On It", which includes a verse where he claims that rappers are just tone-deaf musicians cheating their way to success. ([[HilariousInHindsight Ironic]], considering Prince's later embrace of HipHop elements in the '90s.)
74	* In the music video for "Night of the Living Baseheads" by Music/PublicEnemy, the rap group play the role of news reporters, and at one point in the video, a racist anti-rap group called the "Brown Bags" kidnaps Chuck D, takes him hostage, and beats him up.
75	* "Word Up" by Music/{{Cameo}} includes a TakeThat against the up and coming Rap scene.
76	-->''Now all you sucker. D.J.'s\
77	Who think you're fly\
78	There's got to be a reason\
79	And we know the reason why.\
80	And act real cool\
81	But you got to realise\
82	That you're acting like fools.''
83	* "Message to the Messengers" by Music/GilScottHeron is both a celebration of the potential of hip-hop, but also a condemnation of the behavior of some artists and fans, from promoting violence and criminal behaviour, disrespecting elders in their own community, and misogyny to [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking both cursing and using over-complicated language]].
84	-->''[[ClusterFBomb Four-letter words]] or [[SesquipedalianLoquaciousness four-syllable words]] won't make you a poet\
85	It will only magnify how shallow you are and let everybody know it''
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89	* [[TropeNamers Named]] by Wrestling/CurtHennig and the West Texas Rednecks, who in 1999 released a novelty country song called [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbC4cM34_MI "Rap is Crap (I Hate Rap)"]] to build heat during their rivalry with the No Limit Soldiers, a hip-hop-themed stable supported by Music/MasterP and named for his label No Limit Records. The Rednecks were meant to be the {{heel}}s in this feud and the Soldiers the {{face}}s, but many Wrestling/{{WCW}} fans, mostly Southerners who hated rap and [[DesignatedHero saw the Soldiers as bullies]], [[RootingForTheEmpire sided with the Rednecks]] to the point that their song even got some radio airplay.
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93	* One of the station jingles on [[Radio/GTARadio Liberty Rock Radio]] in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIV'' goes like this:
94	-->''When the rock on your radio sounds like rap...I'm sorry, did I say rap? I meant sh-([[SoundEffectBleep howl]])!''
95	* In ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas'', [[Radio/GTARadio K-DST]] DJ Tommy Smith occasionally complains in the interludes between songs about how "that rap crap is killing music".
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100	* In the ''WesternAnimation/AquaTeenHungerForce'' fan episode [[https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2yqx2o "Tax Evasion",]] when the ATHF are hiding the body of an IRS agent who Shake accidentally killed by dropping a TV on it, Frylock asks about the government being upset that he killed one of their agents. [[{{cloudcuckoolander}} Shake]] answers thusly.
101	-->'''Master Shake:''' Frylock, [[EskimosArentReal the government is a myth]] [[ConspiracyTheorist created by the rap industry to promote their crappy music]]. With jetpacks.
102	* Yahtzee of ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' defended rap as a medium in his review of ''VideoGame/FiftyCentBloodOnTheSand'', but lamented that the subject matter always seemed to be "whores, guns, and [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs whores getting shot with guns.]]"
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106	* The titular host of ''WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob'', being [[StrawCritic a parody of pretentious film critics]], has made it clear on multiple occasions that he detests rap music.
107	* WebVideo/TheTourettesGuy, after hearing a car drive past his house blasting loud rap music, badly beatboxes for a few seconds in mocking imitation before saying, "Shit! ''Fuck'' rap music! Shit!"
108	* WebVideo/ToddInTheShadows has discussed this in videos covering '90s hip-hop.
109	** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqKPkVzJnN8 His episode]] of ''Trainwreckords'' covering Arrested Development's ''Zingalamaduni'' went into detail on how the band framed itself as TheMoralSubstitute to GangstaRap, promoting a more uplifting message of empowerment while criticizing what it saw as the [[StopBeingStereotypical negative messaging]] and JiveTurkey behavior of the gangstas. In turn, he argued, this inspired backlash from gangsta rappers and their fans, who accused them of talking down to black people and playing to an [[TheWhitestBlackGuy image of respectability]] rooted chiefly in the biases of white conservatives and the musical establishment.
110	** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nzdyPqId-A His episode]] of ''One-Hit Wonderland'' covering "I Wish" by Skee-Lo opens by discussing the widespread backlash that gangsta rap got at its height, not least of all by [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfHipHop Golden Age rappers]] who saw it as the genre's SellOut period, promoting the most stereotypical image of urban black life to appeal to "edgy" white listeners.
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114	* Zig-zagged by ''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks'', where ''Mainstream'' Rap is Crap. Specifically, in the world of the show, Rap is ModernMinstrelsy, with Creator/{{BET}} and {{gangsta rap}}pers like Gangstalicious and Thugnificent depicted as dumbing down Black America to the point where UsefulNotes/MartinLutherKingJr (who, in an AlternateHistory WhatIf episode, survived his assassination attempt but spent 32 years in a coma) gives them a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech. On the other hand, the show was a big booster of AlternativeHipHop, with a soundtrack dominated by such.
115	* ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'': In "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS1E5AHeroSitsNextDoor A Hero Sits Next Door]]", Peter listens to the police scanner hoping to pick up a crime in progress so he can stop it and become a hero. Brian overhears a gang shooting being described over the scanner, and says "is it me, or is rap music just getting lazier?"
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