| 1 | [[quoteright:204:[[ComicStrip/{{Garfield}} https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Meet_Your_Early_Installment_Weirdness_4652.png]]]] |
| 2 | [[caption-width-right:204:See the differences?]] |
| 3 | -> '''2003 Garfield:''' How did I see out of those itty-bitty eyes?\ |
| 4 | '''1978 Garfield:''' First explain how you stand on those two spindly legs. |
| 5 | -->-- ''ComicStrip/{{Garfield}}'' |
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| 7 | Sometimes, especially if a franchise is a LongRunner or is about to have a MilestoneCelebration, the creators might find it fun to do an episode or TV special in which the newer versions of the characters meet their past selves, before their ArtEvolution or CharacterDevelopment took place. This is usually accomplished either through TimeTravel if the franchise all takes place in one timeline or if the franchise is made up of several [[AlternateContinuity different continuities]] then it will be stated that the past selves will be from an AlternateUniverse. |
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| 9 | This will usually be handled one of two ways; the show might view the old incarnation of the characters with a level of respect and maybe with only a few tongue-in-cheek jokes at their expense (with the older versions of the characters having some critiques of their own), or it can go into full-on SelfDeprecation, poking fun at how "bad" the show used to be and [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderizing]] the earlier versions, sometimes to the level of ShallowParody. No matter how even-handed the trope is played, though, it will rarely if ever make the old incarnation of the franchise look outright better than the new (after all the new one is more in the selling game). |
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| 11 | The second type is more likely when [[ArmedWithCanon a different writer is handling the newer installments of the franchise]], though having it be used as an outlet for CreatorBacklash by the same creator is also possible. As such, use of this trope may either bring fans of all incarnations of the franchise together and be a celebration of the franchise as a whole, or it could just entertain new fans while alienating older fans. |
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| 13 | Related to EraSpecificPersonality, ArtEvolution, {{Retraux}}, and (of course) EarlyInstallmentWeirdness. FutureMeScaresMe, IHatePastMe and OtherMeAnnoysMe may also come into use. Compare RevisitingTheRoots, BackToTheEarlyInstallment. |
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| 16 | !!Examples: |
| 17 | [[foldercontrol]] |
| 18 | [[folder:Anime & Manga]] |
| 19 | * ZigZagged in ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'', where instead of meeting his past self from the comedic early ''Manga/DragonBall'' era, Goku [[{{crossover}} reunites with]] [[Manga/DoctorSlump Arale]] who he had met in his younger years and is significantly out of place now. [[TheLancer Vegeta]], who joined long after the series went DarkerAndEdgier, correctly identifies her as a "[[BreakingTheFourthWall gag manga character]]" and struggles to deal with her as a result while [[JerkassGods Beerus tries to simply kill her]] but gets stopped by DeusExMachina. |
| 20 | * One of the opening sequences for ''Manga/SgtFrog'' has the anime Keroro (with rounded head) and early manga Keroro (with the famously WWII Japan-styled hat that had to be excised for the anime) meet each other and give each other a shock. |
| 21 | * ''Manga/HimoutoUmaruChan'' has the first ''Umaru-chanS'' short, where the "prototype" version of Umaru from the pilot manga shows up an interacts with the finalized version of Taihei. He [[MediumAwareness remarks on her different character design]] (having realistic child-like proportions rather than being fully SuperDeformed) and she demonstrates her original, more mean-spirited personality by pinching her brother's butt with an extend-o-arm like she did in the pilot. |
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| 23 | |
| 24 | [[folder:Comic Books]] |
| 25 | * During the ''ComicBook/ZeroHourCrisisInTime'' CrisisCrossover, [[BattleButler Alfred Pennyworth]] and Robin have to contend with the BumblingSidekick DefectiveDetective version of Alfred from MediaNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks. |
| 26 | * This was the point of the ''Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica''/''ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica'' crossovers in general. One of them, in issues 91-92 of the Silver Age JLA series, deliberately paired the Silver and Golden Age counterparts up to emphasize the differences between them. |
| 27 | * A few issues of ''ComicBook/ArchieComics'' have Archie and his pals (2008s versions) run into the 1950s versions of themselves while walking down "Memory Lane". |
| 28 | * During the ''ComicBook/AvengersInvaders'' crossover (Marvel's UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and modern hero teams) Namor the ComicBook/SubMariner was the only guy who was alive for both of them (the Steve Rogers ComicBook/CaptainAmerica was dead at this time). Modern Namor is a little annoyed at his younger counterpart, who is brash and hotheaded. |
| 29 | * The cover of one collection of the early issues of ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics'' has the three different versions of Sally Acorn (her regular appearance, her orange furred – blonde haired appearance from the pilot mini-series, and her pink furred – black haired appearance from the early issues) staring at each other in confusion. |
| 30 | * In the earliest issues of ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'', Ben Grimm a.k.a. ComicBook/TheThing was lumpy and scaly, entirely humorless, and spoke in a slightly elevated tone reminiscent of Literature/{{Frankenstein}}'s monster. In the fiftieth issue of the Thing-centric team-up comic ''ComicBook/MarvelTwoInOne'', the rocky, [[BigApplesauce Noo Yawky]], DeadpanSnarker we all know and love traveled back in time to meet his earlier self. [[spoiler: He also undid the earlier Thing's transformation, but this turned out to be a separate timeline so he was unaffected in the present. The consequences of Ben doing this, especially regarding the outcome of ''ComicBook/TheComingOfGalactus'', were explored in the hundredth issue.]] |
| 31 | * Issue 184 of ''ComicBook/WonderWoman'' [[ComicBook/WonderWoman1987 Vol 2]] has the [[ComicBook/WonderWoman1942 classic]] and modern versions of Wonder Woman staring at one another in shock on the cover. (The [[CoversAlwaysLie actual story]] is Diana travelling back to World War II and meeting the version of Hipolyta who had previously travelled back to World War II and became the Post-Crisis Golden Age Wonder Woman, without the clash of styles implied by the cover.) |
| 32 | * An issue of the Genis-Vell version of ''ComicBook/{{Captain Marvel|MarvelComics}}'' involved Rick Jones encountering his young self from his very first appearance in ''ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk.'' Not only is he still an irresponsible kid (since he hasn't learned his lesson from getting poor Bruce hit by the Gamma Bomb yet), but he's drawn with [[ComicBookTime his early 1960's clothes and hairstyle,]] making him look like a ''complete'' dork. Naturally, [[IHatePastMe present day Rick can't stand him.]] |
| 33 | * The ''ComicBook/UltronForever'' miniseries featured a number of characters being plucked from across time to resolve a threat, of which one was the [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk Hulk]] - specifically, the Hulk in ''ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk1962''. As a result, he has a lot of the signature elements of Hulk in those days; his design is noticeably simian, he's a fair bit more articulate (about on the level of a LowerClassLout), he's not as mountain-smashingly powerful, and he suffers from odd mutations as a result of having used an experimental ray to switch back and forth between the two identities. |
| 34 | * In one issue of the ''WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}}'' comic book, the Warner siblings hold a seance to summon the "spirit of old comedy", and end up bringing their old, silent, black-and-white selves from 1929 into the present. (Although, unlike most examples, those "early installments" don't really exist.) |
| 35 | * Occurs sometimes in ''ComicBook/MonicasGang''. Some examples are when Franklin switched places Present Day Monica with the 1960's Jimmy, or when Jimmy and Smudge used a magical pencil, and even when they tried to make Monica's parents never met. |
| 36 | * In the ''WesternAnimation/MightyMouse'' parody of ''Comicbook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'', the role of Golden Age Superman is taken by Supermouse, the SilentProtagonist proto-Mighty Mouse who appeared in seven cartoons before being reworked into the more familiar version. |
| 37 | * The third ''ComicBook/BatmanTeenageMutantNinjaTurtles'' crossover has the [[ComicBook/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesIDW IDW Turtles]] and [[ComicBook/DCRebirth Rebirth Batman]] needing to break away their MergedReality and respectively rescue the [[ComicBook/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesMirage Mirage Turtles]] and [[MediaNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age Batman]] from Krang, a task that's instigated by the Mirage Raphael's miraculous escape from the latter. |
| 38 | * ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'': One issue of ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'' has Miles Morales travel to the reality of ''WesternAnimation/SpiderMan1967'' with the Peter Parker of ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan2012'', which at the time was the current cartoon, allowing the two different animated Spider-Men to meet. 2012 Spidey can't even hide his laughter when 1967 Spidey mentions his villain Dr. [[PunnyName Noah Boddy]] has escaped and in general seems to find the 1967 reality amusing. 1967 Spidey meanwhile finds his 2012 counterpart annoying and like Miles is baffled by his [[BreakingTheFourthWall fourth wall breaking]] comments. Neither is especially impressed by how the other dresses either. |
| 39 | * A story in ''Adventures of Superman'' involved a righteous old journalist friend of Clark's writing a novel about a "Champion of the Oppressed" based on Superman. Inexplicably his character [[ArtInitiatesLife comes to life]], depicted like Superman in his Silver Age appearance with a desaturated, flatly shaded appearance like an old comic strip, [[MythologyGag described by witnesses as resembling a circus strongman]]. Having the same [[DestructiveSavior heedlessly destructive]] attitude while fighting injustice with extreme prejudice as that era's Superman, he attracts military intervention while Clark, characterized as a pacifist trying to minimize collateral damage in his current arc, tries to talk him peaceably after persuading his author to delete the draft novel that manifested him. |
| 40 | * ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} volume four has the second Post Crisis Supergirl Linda Danvers meet the original Silver Age Supergirl Kara Zor-El, whose very presence is the result of a CosmicFlaw. Comicbook/TheSpectre tries to send Kara back to ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' to die [[DownerBeginning like she's supposed to]] but Linda Danverse switches places with Kara, [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong believing the more optimistic Supergirl]] to be [[MoreExpendableThanYou more deserving of life]]. The Spectre isn't fooled though and when it comes time for Linda to die switches her and Kara back. |
| 41 | [[/folder]] |
| 42 | |
| 43 | [[folder:Comic Strips]] |
| 44 | * A joke comic strip was published in an issue of ''Wizard Magazine'' featuring the WesternAnimation/SuperFriends teaming up with their modern Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica comic counterparts. |
| 45 | * Done in the 25th anniversary [[https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/10/55/76/105576a5d5ac6b1029bba35d4c8d482c.jpg strip]] of ''ComicStrip/FoxTrot'' as well, with Peter and Jason looking at scans of 1988 strips and commenting on how weird they look. |
| 46 | * ''ComicStrip/FunkyWinkerbean'': Part of a story arc involving the title character being seriously injured in a car accident (caused by a woman talking on a cell phone while driving). While unconscious, Funky had a dream where he was taken back to 1980, where he interacts with the teen-aged versions of himself, Crazy Harry and Holly Budd. The flashback ends when he regains consciousness in the present day. |
| 47 | * The old version of ComicStrip/{{Garfield}} (which, [[InformedAttribute unlike the newer model, actually was fat]], had small beady eyes, and walked like a cat) met the newer one during the strip's 25th anniversary, which allow them to indulge in some LampshadeHanging. |
| 48 | * One strip of ''ComicStrip/{{Luann}}'' had Luann, Delta, and Bernice commenting on how juvenile several new freshmen looked, unaware that those three freshmen looked exactly like their earliest designs. |
| 49 | * ''Comicstrip/AlleyOop'' did a storyline where Alley's "no good cousin" Early Oop (who looks like Alley before any of his ArtEvolution) shows up and starts making trouble for Alley by impersonating him. All the more frustrating for Alley because he can't see why everyone says they look alike. |
| 50 | [[/folder]] |
| 51 | |
| 52 | [[folder:Fan Works]] |
| 53 | * ''WebVideo/ImAMarvelAndImADC'' has ComicBook/{{Superman}} and ComicBook/{{Batman}} briefly turn into their ''WesternAnimation/SuperFriends''/[[MediaNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] selves. They were a lot nicer to each other and had a lot of HoYay (but counteracted with blatant HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday -ing). While it scared ComicBook/SpiderMan and annoyed Batman, Superman found himself wistful. |
| 54 | * In episode 56 of ''WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries'', Yugi and his friends get trapped in their memories and have to relive the first episode. They comment on how bad the audio is and how what they're saying doesn't match their mouth movements, plus their out-dated jokes. |
| 55 | * One ''WebAnimation/MyLittlePonyMeets'' video involved the Scootaloo from generation 3.5 of MLP. Sure enough, nopony distinguishes G3.5 Scootaloo from G4 Scootaloo, causing her to take the blame for what her older counterpart did. ''Spider-man meets My Little Pony'' ends with 60s Spider-Man ([[InvertedTrope the focus of the video]]) meeting 2012 Spider-Man, who gets promptly beaten up. |
| 56 | * In Creator/AAPessimal's ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' tale ''Gap Year Adventures'', an older, wiser, and more mellow Johanna Smith-Rhodes is talking to a [[AmoralAfrikaner recent Assassins' School graduate]] who has come to realise what an idiot he was at school. She describes a girl arriving in Ankh-Morpork from [[UsefulNotes/SouthAfrica Rimwards Howondaland]] when she wasn't even twenty, who was an attitudinal bumptious idiot with a lot to learn, a complete ''pielkop'' and something of a ''bliksem'', who was hard to love, and who was really hard work for the people around her, who nevertheless straightened her out and helped her get a completely different outlook on life.[[note]]Johanna, in the very first tale in which she appears, is written as a typical AmoralAfrikaner greatly {{exaggerated|Trope}}: a deliberate attempt to invoke all the NationalStereotypes of South-African-ness with few redeeming features. in later tales she develops a lot of redeeming qualities, so much so that her first incarnation is jarring to those who read later stories first.[[/note]] |
| 57 | -->I often wonder what would have happened to that young idiot, if she hadn't changed. |
| 58 | [[/folder]] |
| 59 | |
| 60 | [[folder:Films -- Animated]] |
| 61 | * The Direct-to-Video film ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGoVsTeenTitans'' involves the Titans crossing over with their 2003 incarnations, pitting them against each other until they have to settle their differences to defeat the 2003 and 2013 versions of Trigon. Except for the two versions of Robin, the Titans eventually come to admire their counterparts and accept their similarities and differences. The main conflict derives from the fact that the 2003 Titans consider their 2013 selves silly and jerks with Robin mockingly calling his counterpart "Bobblehead Robin", while the 2013 versions feel a desire to prove themselves as heroes and find their counterparts to be somewhat arrogant. This leads to the 2013 versions being happy when they encounter the even more childish Titans of ''ComicBook/TinyTitans'' and the incredibly serious Titans of the ''WesternAnimation/DCAnimatedMovieUniverse'', which to them counts as proof that their aren't the baby Titans and their counterparts aren't as cool and serious as they think they are. |
| 62 | * In ''WesternAnimation/TurtlesForever'', the [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003 2003 Ninja Turtles]] meet the (somewhat exaggerated) [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987 1987 Turtles]], and later, the [[ComicBook/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesMirage Mirage Comics Turtles]] as they were in the very first issue of the comic, which was grim-n-gritty taken so far past eleven that it loops around to parody[[labelnote:note]][[PoesLaw Which it was]], of ''ComicBook/{{Daredevil}}''[[/labelnote]]. The 2003 Turtles find their 1987 counterparts to be annoying and childish though eventually they accept them as brothers, but ironically find that their Mirage selves consider them to be sellouts and aren't really impressed with either of their counterparts which disappoints 2003 Raphael who found himself enjoying the Mirage world. |
| 63 | * The 2001 ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooAndTheCyberChase'' had the gang encounter digitized versions of themselves from back in the 70s. Though since Shaggy had long reverted to his original green shirt and brown pants, his digital counterpart had his 80s red shirt and blue jeans instead. The two versions of Daphne aren't sure about each other's fashion choices ("[[IWasQuiteAFashionVictim Did I really wear that years ago?]]" ''"That'' jacket with ''that'' skirt?"), but New Fred likes Old Fred's [[IconicItem ascot]]. |
| 64 | [[/folder]] |
| 65 | |
| 66 | [[folder:Films -- Live-Action]] |
| 67 | * ''Film/{{The Flash|2023}}'' sort of has this with Prime Barry Allen (Creator/EzraMiller) meeting his AlternateSelf who grew up with his mother Nora still alive. With his MotorMouth, AttentionDeficitOohShiny and CowardlyLion characterisation, Alternate Barry is essentially a powerless version of Barry from ''Film/{{Justice League|2017}}'' in comparison to the main universe Barry who acts more similar to the more mature version from ''Film/ZackSnydersJusticeLeague''. |
| 68 | * ''Film/SpiderManNoWayHome'' has the Spider-Man of the ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse'' encounter the two versions of himself from the ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'' by Creator/SamRaimi and ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderManSeries'' by Marc Webb to celebrate [[MilestoneCelebration almost 20 years of Spider-Man films]]. Both MCU Peter and Webb-Verse Peter are shocked to learn that the original cinematic Spider-Man had organic webbing instead of web shooters, and they spend a moment asking questions about it out of both genuine curiosity to know how it works and jealousy due to how complicated making web fluid is for them. MCU Spider-Man is also surprised to learn that neither of his counterparts have the Avengers in their universes since both of their film series were made solely by Sony and therefore [[AdaptedOut lacked the rights]] to other Marvel characters, and briefly attempts to explain who they are before giving up. However despite these two moments, all three Spider-Men bond quickly and like each other for their differences as well as their similarities. |
| 69 | [[/folder]] |
| 70 | |
| 71 | [[folder:Literature]] |
| 72 | * ''Literature/ArtemisFowl: The Time Paradox'' sees Artemis returns to the past and encounter his younger, less nuanced self. Although his younger self is actually two years younger than the first book. Nevertheless, he does show elements of first-book Artemis that later Artemis has outgrown, namely being evil and much more smug. |
| 73 | * In an illustration for ''Literature/TheRoadToOz'', John R. Neill lampshades how different his drawings of Dorothy and Toto are from W. W. Denslow's by showing them examining a statue of their earlier selves in the Tin Woodman's garden: [[https://www.gutenberg.org/files/26624/26624-h/26624-h.htm#CHAP_15 see it here]]. |
| 74 | * In the modern Franchise/LandOfOz book ''Literature/ParadoxInOz'', while time traveling, Princess Ozma meets her past self [[spoiler: Tip, from back when she was magically disguised as a boy and didn't know herself that she was actually female, as seen in ''Literature/TheMarvelousLandOfOz''. She decides to put the idea in his head to run away from the witch Mombi, his caretaker.]] |
| 75 | * The cover of the 25th Anniversary Edition of ''Arthur's Nose'', the very first ''Literature/{{Arthur}}'' book by Marc Brown, shows the modern Arthur [[BreakingTheFourthWall reading the book's original edition]]--and reacting with shock upon seeing his original incarnation, who was a much more realistic aardvark with a long, protruding nose. |
| 76 | [[/folder]] |
| 77 | |
| 78 | [[folder:Live-Action TV]] |
| 79 | * The crossover event ''Series/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths2019'' features characters from the ''Series/{{Arrowverse}}'' series of shows encountering characters from other DC live-action properties, including alternate versions of themselves. The [[Series/TheFlash2014 2014 Flash]] meets his [[Series/TheFlash1990 counterpart from the 1990 show]], which is somewhat odd considering his 90s self is played by the same [[Creator/JohnWesleyShipp actor]] who plays his [[RemakeCameo father]], while the Superman from ''Series/Supergirl2015'' meets the versions of him from ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' and ''Film/SupermanReturns'' with the latter [[Creator/BrandonRouth looking]] like another superhero called [[Series/LegendsOfTomorrow the Atom]] who he meets. Since the entire multiverse is in danger the characters don't spent a massive amount of time together, but the physical differences between all the characters is noted. |
| 80 | * ''Series/DoctorWho'': |
| 81 | ** This trope is in play any time two incarnations of the Doctor meet each other since often the show goes through {{Retool}} with each regeneration. |
| 82 | --->'''The First Doctor''': So, these are my replacements. A dandy and a clown. |
| 83 | ** This is also brought up in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E3SchoolReunion School Reunion]]", when Rose meets former companion Sarah Jane, and comments that K9 [[{{Zeerust}} "looks a bit disco"]]. |
| 84 | ** The "round things" in the War Doctor's TARDIS are mentioned with amusement from the Tenth and Eleventh Doctors, who don't remember what they're even for (a later episode reveals that the First Doctor kept some brandy behind one). |
| 85 | ** Both the game "The Eternity Clock" and the episode "The Name of the Doctor" contain Eleventh Doctor companions talking to the First Doctor, Edwardian clothes and granddaughter and all. River in "The Eternity Clock" makes fun of the Doctor's frequent line flubbing and is (understandably) disconcerted by the idea of him having a grandchild, and Clara[[note]]technically, an echo of Clara[[/note]] in "The Name of the Doctor" more affectionately steers him onto his present road. |
| 86 | ** "[[Recap/DoctorWho2017CSTwiceUponATime Twice Upon A Time]]" makes a point of how the First Doctor still insists on calling his [=TARDIS=] a ship, and how he hasn't yet come to see himself as a full-time protector of the Earth. He also calls the sonic screwdriver a "ridiculous buzzing toy", and is bewildered by his future self's tendency to make [[BadassBoast dramatic speeches]] about how unstoppable he is. The Twelfth Doctor is also deeply embarrassed by his past self's casual sexism (which was exaggerated a couple of notches for the story), though he is also impressed by how the First Doctor's more calm approach to problems means he notices things the Revival era Doctors would miss. |
| 87 | ** In the Big Finish audio drama "[[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWho169TheWrongDoctors The Wrong Doctors]]", an OlderAndWiser version of the Sixth Doctor, who's already undergone massive CharacterDevelopment, is forced to interact with his far more aggressive and loquacious past self due as they must work together to get to the bottom of a time paradox involving his companion Mel. In fact, due to a momentary lapse of forgetfulness, the younger Six doesn't believe the other Doctor really is him until confronted with evidence in the form of telepathic contact. |
| 88 | ** "[[Recap/DoctorWho2007CiNSTimeCrash Time Crash]]" shows the Fifth and Tenth Doctors meeting, and calls out the differences between the Classic era of the show during the early 80s and the Revival era. While happy to meet him Ten is somewhat embarrassed by Five's clothes and also notes how he abandoned the sonic screwdriver during this time, while in contrast the Fifth Doctor finds Ten's constant running about annoying and dislikes the modern TARDIS interior. The different music is also contrasted as well as the tone, with Five speaking rather dramatically while having a more electronic sountrack played until Ten casually interrupts both by revealing that the TARDIS exploding will simply create a hole the size of Belgium which Five finds underwhelming which reflects the Revival era's more casual and at times even humorous approach to time paradoxes unlike the Classic era. |
| 89 | * In the ''Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys'' episode "The End Of The Beginning", a powerful stone sends Hercules and Autolycus back in time a few years. While Herc has his own adventure to worry about, Autolycus encounters his own past-self. The experience is less than thrilling for either one of them. |
| 90 | -->'''Past Autolycus:''' Oh, you know what? You're pathetic. You're cynical, cautious. What happens to me that turns me into you?\ |
| 91 | '''Present Autolycus:''' Y'know, it's a wonder that I ever survived my reckless youth to become the master knave that I am. |
| 92 | * The inherent problem with ''Series/KaizokuSentaiGokaiger'' is that the Gokaigers were going to, at some point, have to turn into the older ''Franchise/SuperSentai'' teams. The suits have not aged well at all, both in a literal sense (some looked like they were going to fall apart) and in a design sense, particularly the human-looking suits from ''Series/BattleFeverJ''. |
| 93 | ** Though the costumes have been remade, they were spot-on remakings with better materials, though, instead of "modernized" suits. The pre-spandex suits hang looser, and the helmets that originally had visible eyeholes or latches still do. The bizarre attacks some of the early teams have are used as well. The very first episode gives us a [[Series/HimitsuSentaiGoranger Goranger Hurricane]], which involved kicking a(n American) football between the team members, the final member sending it at the opponent, whereupon it would transform into something (wacky) that the opponent hates. |
| 94 | * ''Franchise/KamenRider'' |
| 95 | ** Whenever Shocker, the first evil organization of the franchise, reappears in the recent crossover movies, they almost always use the same monster designs that appeared in the [[Series/KamenRider original series]]. This results in modern looking heroes fighting against ridiculously designed and unconvincing monsters. |
| 96 | ** In an interesting twist, ''Series/KamenRiderDecade'' has the ''villains'' get remade (most obviously, the new [[Series/KamenRiderAmazon Ten-Faced Demon]] looks much more {{Mayincatec}}), but for the heroes, we get faithful reproductions of the old suits instead of updates like ''Film/KamenRiderTheFirst'' or ''Film/KamenRiderTheNext. Series/KamenRiderStronger'' still has his highly visible eyeholes and overall poofier design, and Riderman's mask still doesn't cover his whole face. No changes are made to bring some of the more un-riderly-looking old-school heroes in line with what a Rider "should" look like. |
| 97 | *** There's one exception (and there were nearly two): The GrandFinale movie features an alternate version of [[Series/KamenRiderStronger Electro-Wave Human Tackle]] who wears a [[http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/kamenrider/images/6/66/Hmt.jpg fully modernized version]] of the [[http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/kamenrider/images/1/1d/Electro-Wave_Human_Tackle.png classic costume.]] The same thing almost happened to Riderman in ''All Riders vs. Dai-Shocker'', but the suit wasn't completed in time, so instead he appears in his civilian identity (albeit played by Music/{{Gackt}}) while the classic suit appears in the final battle. |
| 98 | ** ''Film/KamenRider1'' plays with this trope by pitting the original Shocker, complete with their old monster designs, against a modernized offshoot of them, called Nova Shocker. The original Shocker is portrayed as a simple organization of {{Card Carrying Villain}}s, openly fighting against the good guys with not much else in terms of plans, referencing how the villains operated in the early days of the franchise. Nova Shocker, on the other hand, disguise themselves as a legitimate company and use a convoluted hidden scheme to get what they want, which is how most of the villains of the modern Heisei generation of Kamen Rider operate. |
| 99 | * ''Franchise/StarTrek'': |
| 100 | ** "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS7E24AllGoodThings All Good Things...]]", the [[SeriesFinale finale]] of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', has Picard drifting through past, present and future timelines. The first brings him back to the show's pilot, "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS1E1EncounterAtFarpoint Encounter at Farpoint]]", and recreates the show's first season and its peculiarities -- a nerdier Data, no one character established as the chief engineer, a clip of a [[GrowingTheBeard clean-shaven]] Riker, and Troi's cheerleader-like hairstyle and uniform -- with uncanny precision (except that past Worf doesn't have his completely different forehead ridges, which is understandable given that the entire reason the ridge was changed was because the original piece went missing). Picard even mistakenly orders past Worf to conduct a security scan, even though Tasha Yar was Chief of Security during much of season 1. |
| 101 | ** The same goes for other flashback situations. You won't be able to tell the archival footage from the new footage in ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space 9]]''[='s=] "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS05E06TrialsAndTribbleations Trials and Tribble-ations]]", and the TOS-era ship seen in ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Enterprise]]''[='s=] "[[Recap/StarTrekEnterpriseS04E18InAMirrorDarkly In a Mirror Darkly]]" is also faithfully TOS. Original ''Trek'' is ''very'' {{Zeerust}}-affected, with its bright primary colors and blinking lights and high-pitched noises coming from everything, and never fails to clash with later interpretations, but the ''Trek'' producers know that when you want your original ''Trek'' back, ''you want your original Trek back.'' (For "Trials and Tribble-ations", the production team went so far as to use ''1960s film stock'' because the color saturation properties were different!) "Trials and Tribble-ations" also does this trope straight with Worf (late continuity ridge-head Klingon) acknowledging Original Series Trek Era Klingons (a bunch of guys with swarthy makeup, shaggy hair and mustaches, and bubble-wrap belt-buckles). "Yes, they are Klingons... [[NoodleIncident It is not something we discuss with outsiders]]." |
| 102 | ** The 2009 movie gets away with modernizing things because it's an AlternateContinuity; [[AWizardDidIt blame Nero for everything]]! Yet even ''it'' has the old-school uniforms, with relatively minor changes and/or updates. |
| 103 | ** ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Enterprise]]'' also played with this trope with respect to the Klingons. While they had used the ridge-head design as was used in ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration TNG]]'' onwards, they did have one episode attempt to explain the original Klingons and thereby suggest that both types were a consistent part of continuity. So there were 'modern' Klingons (technically from before TOS) sharing an episode with Klingons whose descendants would be the type from TOS (not that many were actually shown). The short version is, the Klingons tried making Khan-style supermen and accidentally caused a virus; those afflicted and their descendants lost their ridges. However, reconstructive surgery is a thing (hence ''specific'' TOS Klingons having the modern Klingon look in later appearances.) |
| 104 | * ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia'' has one episode where the gang tries to recreate the events of very early episodes in the series. Charlie gets confused when the plot requires Mac to be interested in having sex with female strippers, since he's an ArmoredClosetGay. He then recalls that Mac was still interested in women back then. |
| 105 | [[/folder]] |
| 106 | |
| 107 | [[folder:Music]] |
| 108 | * PostPunk band Music/{{Magazine}} reformed in the 21st century, and one of their new songs, "Of Course Howard (1979)", incorporated some text written by lead singer Howard Devoto during their earlier period of operation. Devoto maybe gets a little ironic at his younger self -- but the younger Devoto was quite capable of irony himself. |
| 109 | * A never-released video for his 1999 song "The Pretty Things Are Going to Hell" would have shown Music/DavidBowie encountering his previous personae. The idea was later revisited in a bottled water commercial of all things, which revealed that they all lived with him in New York. Including the Diamond Dog. Two of the persona puppets from the "Pretty Things" video would later appear in Bowie's 2013 video for "Love is Lost". |
| 110 | * The video for Music/TaylorSwift's "Look What You Made Me Do" shows scenes with multiple Taylors from public appearances and music videos, from her earliest country music days until the ''1989'' era, along with many guises she assumes in the LWYMMD video. In the end, they are all arguing and sniping at each other. |
| 111 | * Music/{{Eminem}} occasionally likes to dredge up one of his old characters to reference the past or mock them. |
| 112 | ** Eminem's revived some of his old characters in his music videos, most prominently for ContinuityPorn in "The Monster", which ends with the middle-aged Eminem finding the young Slim Shady locked up in a cage in a JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind. In the video for "Godzilla", he swats aside the straitjacketed Slim Shady from "My Name Is". The video for "Gnat" has him reprise his TheHost character from "My Name Is", now being attacked by weird bats. |
| 113 | ** The trailer for the 2022 Super Bowl Half Time Show showed the modern Eminem BattleRapping with the 26-year-old Slim Shady. |
| 114 | ** The song "Jimmy, Brian and Mike" is based on a song from 2000 that Eminem made demos of but never finished. It's introduced by a verse from the modern Eminem, until the old Slim Shady shows up to hijack proceedings. |
| 115 | [[/folder]] |
| 116 | |
| 117 | [[folder:Print Media]] |
| 118 | * Parodied in ''Magazine/{{MAD}}'' with a review for the fictitious graphic novel ''Franchise/{{Batman}}: When Worlds Contrive''. The story features MediaNotes/{{the Dark Age|OfComicBooks}}'s Batman and MediaNotes/{{the Golden Age|OfComicBooks}}'s Robin fighting against MediaNotes/{{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}}'s Penguin. ''MAD'' called it a "rurdosk." |
| 119 | -->'''MAD:''' "Rurdosk" is a phony slang word we just made up, and it means you can kiss continuity goodbye. |
| 120 | [[/folder]] |
| 121 | |
| 122 | [[folder:Pro Wrestling]] |
| 123 | * During his title shot against Wrestling/JeffJarrett at ''Wrestling/{{WCW}} Halloween Havoc 2000'', Wrestling/{{Sting}} was attacked by past incarnations of himself. |
| 124 | * There were certain elements of this in a 2006 Wrestling/{{WWE}} storyline in which Wrestling/{{Kane}} feuded with someone that dressed and acted just like he did when he first debuted in 1997, even down to performing his moves and displaying the same mannerisms. The storyline wasn't given much conclusion though, after Kane defeated him and took back the mask that the imposter wore. |
| 125 | * Wrestling/JohnMorrison dislikes his old Johnny Nitro persona so much he traveled back in time on ''The Dirt Sheet'' to mock him. |
| 126 | [[/folder]] |
| 127 | |
| 128 | [[folder:Video Games]] |
| 129 | * ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'': |
| 130 | ** ''VideoGame/SonicGenerations'' has the current Sonic, Tails and Eggman bumping into the versions of themselves from the 16-bit era. Classic Tails and Eggman can talk, but classic Sonic is TheVoiceless unlike modern Sonic who is fully voiced. Classic Sonic also lacks some of the abilities that modern Sonic has that modern players would normally expect, such as the air dash. |
| 131 | ** This happens again to a lesser degree in ''VideoGame/SonicForces'' and some spin-offs. |
| 132 | * It occurs in [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/MickeyMeetsMickey_7528.jpg this promotional art]] for the WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse game ''VideoGame/MickeyMania''. In the actual game, each level is an older Mickey cartoon, and modern Mickey meets his older self in each one. |
| 133 | * ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'': The game does this between the classic and modern incarnations of Pete in the stage based on ''WesternAnimation/SteamboatWillie''. Although it's more "Meet Your Mentor/Leader's Early Installment Weirdness". It also has an interesting boss battle where you fight modern Pete... with the aid of Steamboat Willie's Pete. |
| 134 | * In ''VideoGame/SpaceQuestIVRogerWilcoAndTheTimeRippers'', Roger does some time travelling, and part of the game is set during the first ''Space Quest'' game, with everything except Roger depicted in the original more primitive graphics. |
| 135 | * In ''VideoGame/TheCurseOfMonkeyIsland'', Guybrush can walk into the sea and into an underwater scene from ''VideoGame/TheSecretOfMonkeyIsland'' in which Guybrush has drowned. This is possible to do in the original game but most players never saw it because it required waiting there for 10 minutes. Guybrush wants to get out of there pretty quickly due to it being a paradox. |
| 136 | * ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'': |
| 137 | ** ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' and ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2'' has Mario/Luigi occasionally visit planets shaped like [[MediaNotes/The8bitEraOfConsoleVideoGames 8-bit]] versions of themselves. |
| 138 | ** In ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG'', there's a room in Booster Tower where walking behind a curtain turns Mario into his 8-bit self, and ''VideoGame/PaperMario'' pulls the same gag with a pot in a haunted house. Then there's ''VideoGame/SuperPaperMario'', which includes a powerup that transforms Mario into an enormous 8-bit sprite rampaging through the level. That last one also works for the rest of the party and their NES sprites, which looks very strange for Peach given that her NES sprite does not have any walking animations. As if that wasn't enough, [[spoiler:on one occasion you will find this powerup, but a Koopa Troopa will grab it before you, ''reverting to an enormous 8-bit version of itself who then tries to chase you down'']]. |
| 139 | ** In ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey'', one of the unlockable outfits turns gives Mario the blocky, polygonal look he had in ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'', and, when worn, allows Mario to access the castle's courtyard from the same game, similarly rendered in its Nintendo 64 style. A later update also added the 8-Bit Mario Cap, which transforms Mario into a static, floating, 3D representation of his classic NES sprite posed identically to 30th Anniversary Mario amiibo. |
| 140 | ** ''VideoGame/SuperMarioMaker'' lets you use the styles of several games, including the original, reverting things to design styles not seen since the beginning. Even ''Super Mario Odyssey''[='=]s 2D-mode sections have him in his modern, tweaked colors, but this will give the old red overalls with brown sleeves, as well as the original less-stylized mushroom. |
| 141 | * ''VideoGame/NarutoShippudenUltimateNinjaStormGenerations'' essentially touts this as a selling point. The game has a majority of the characters of ''Anime/NarutoShippuden'' "meet" their younger versions of themselves from Part 1 of ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' (pre-''Shippuden''). However, Young Naruto and Modern Naruto don't really meet aside from the introductory video, promotional artwork, and the multiplayer mode. |
| 142 | * ''VideoGame/MaxPayne'': |
| 143 | ** In ''VideoGame/{{Max Payne 2|TheFallOfMaxPayne}}'', where Max's appearance is based on Timothy Gibbs rather than lead writer Sam Lake, Max can be heard rambling during a {{dream sequence}} that "I didn't used to look like this!" |
| 144 | ** Much fun is had with Max's "constipated" expression from the first game.[[note]]Due to budget constraints, based on Sam Lake's own face, forever stuck in a squinting, smarmy grin during gameplay.[[/note]] [[VideoGame/MaxPayne3 The third game]] involves Max seeing a TV report about his recent exploits, including a facial composite... that comes out as a dead ringer for his "old" face. He is less than pleased. |
| 145 | --->'''Max''': Oh Jesus, ''look'' at that... |
| 146 | * ''VideoGame/TheSimpsonsGame'' has the current game's Simpsons meet 8-bit versions of themselves. The early Bart and Homer are confused by the lack of [[DeathIsASlapOnTheWrist lives]] and [[ScoringPoints high scores]], and both sets of Simpsons are uneasy about their present/future obsolescence. |
| 147 | * Occurs in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ'' where ''Anime/SuperDimensionCenturyOrguss'''s interdimensional weirdness brings the kid-friendly 1970s anime version of the ''Manga/GetterRobo'' team face to face with their violent SociopathicHero counterparts from the ''Shin Getter Robo'' [=OAVs=]. Needless to say, neither side is particularly happy about this. |
| 148 | ** The franchise also pulls a {{Meta}} twist on this with Ryusei Date. When first introduced in ''VideoGame/ShinSuperRobotWars'', he was such an arrogant {{Jerkass}}[[note]]Taunting his enemies with line like "Wow you suck, just kill yourself now and save me the trouble." and "pranking" his teammate Rai by going around telling everyone he's gay[[/note]] that it was hard to imagine anyone putting up with him; ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAlpha'' subsequently re-introduced Ryusei with a much friendlier personality that would become his "default" attitude from then on. The first ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration'' game gave Ryusei a rival named Tenzan Nakajima, who effectively had Ryusei's old ''Shin SRW'' personality; as a result he's shown to be a colossal prick with no redeeming qualities who gladly joins the villains because he thinks it'll bring him fame and glory. Needless to say, the good-guy ''Alpha'' version of Ryusei doesn't like him at all. |
| 149 | * One mission in ''VideoGame/SaintsRowIV'' has the simulation spit out the default version of the Playa (from the [[VideoGame/SaintsRow1 first game]]) and the Boss (from the [[VideoGame/SaintsRow2 second game]]). Kinzie is deeply confused, but the Boss seems more irritated than anything. Rescuing Shaundi from her own simulation also ends up spitting out two versions of herself, the actual person as she appeared in ''VideoGame/SaintsRowTheThird'', and a simulated copy of her from her more laid-back hippie days back in ''Saints Row 2'', which the game helpfully labels as "Fun Shaundi". |
| 150 | * ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'': |
| 151 | ** The playable character Franchise/DonkeyKong is based off of his ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry'' incarnation. On the stage 75m, his incarnation from his 1980 debut ''VideoGame/DonkeyKong'' appears. If you play the character on the stage, they can meet each other. |
| 152 | ** Averted with King Dedede. In the [[NostalgiaLevel Dreamland 64]] stage, he is seen in the background in pixelated form. But when the stage reappears in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosForNintendo3DSAndWiiU'', where he is a playable character, he only appears in the background when he isn't present as fighter. |
| 153 | ** King Dedede is still able to see a picture of his incarnation from ''VideoGame/KirbysDreamLand'' by playing at the [[NostalgiaLevel Dreamland GB]] stage from the 3DS version. |
| 154 | ** Since Mr. Game & Watch as a specific character originated in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosMelee'', created as a CompositeCharacter from the several unnamed characters from various Platform/GameAndWatch, he has a design that's different from the original Platform/GameAndWatch games. But in his stages Flat Zone and Flat Zone X, the original characters also appear in their original designs. |
| 155 | ** In the ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosMelee'' stage Mushroom Kingdom, Goombas appear in the background in their 8-bit designs from ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros1''. But occasionally, a Goomba in the 3D-design from Melee appears out of an item crate, even on this stage. 8-bit Koopa Troopas also walk in the background, even if 3D shells are a common item. |
| 156 | ** VideoGame/PacMan has a 3D-form with face, arms and legs, but he reverts into his 8bit version when he uses his Final Smash. Also, for some moves, he loses his limbs and face but stays in 3D. |
| 157 | ** In his down attack, he summons a fire hydrant, which is also rendered in 3D. But the same hydrant appears in the stage Pac-Land in an 8bit version. |
| 158 | * In an example taking place in another game, a sidequest in ''VideoGame/RakenzarnFrontierStory'' involves teaming up with the characters from ''VideoGame/DIDNapper''. During the course of the quest, Suki and Carol from the game's final version, v1.8, run into alternate versions of themselves from v1.6, represented by distinctly different face sets and attitudes. |
| 159 | * ''VideoGame/StreetFighterII'' had one of its later [[CapcomSequelStagnation re-releases]] accomplish this with ''Hyper Street Fighter II''. It uses ''Super Turbo'' as the basis for balance and features, and then allows you to select not only every character in the game (besides [[OptionalBoss Akuma]], still locked behind a cheat code), but every prior version of them all the way back to the initial ''World Warrior'' release, with sprites, sounds, moves and most balance restored. You could have a MirrorMatch between two different iterations of the same fighter like ''Hyper Fighting'' Ryu versus ''Super'' Ryu, or have ''World Warrior'' M. Bison face off against ''Super Turbo'' Sagat, and so forth. |
| 160 | [[/folder]] |
| 161 | |
| 162 | [[folder:Web Animation]] |
| 163 | * A gag in ''WebAnimation/SuperMarioBrosZ'' has Mario (whose sprite is from ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'') emerge from a pipe, and see three other pipes with an earlier version of Mario (going back to the 8-bit version). |
| 164 | * ''WebAnimation/HomestarRunner'': |
| 165 | ** The WebAnimation/StrongBadEmail "alternate universe" involved Strong Bad meeting several alternate universe versions of himself, including one based on the storybook the website was based on, ''Literature/TheHomestarRunnerEntersTheStrongestManInTheWorldContest''. Downplayed in the email "kids book", where he ''edits'' his Early Installment Weirdness into the book ''Strumstar Hammer'' and makes his early self win, and played with in other shorts where he becomes the LemonyNarrator to their universe. |
| 166 | ** The remakes of the original storybooks ("Strongest Man in the World" and "Where My Hat Is At?") have the characters in their modern incarnations frequently make jabs at the plots. The short "Homestar Runner Goes for the Gold" takes it further, as Homestar and Strong Bad riff on a previously unmade book. |
| 167 | ** The Homestar on the main page uses voice clips from early in the site's history, and has never changed. Main Page 23 has a duplicate of Homestar greet him with his current voice. |
| 168 | * In ''[[WebAnimation/Supermarioglitchy4sSuperMario64Bloopers SMG4]]'' video "Mario goes to Didney Worl" when [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario, Toad]] and [[AuthorAvatar SMG4]] visit Ride/TheHauntedMansion and when they see their biggest fears, it's revealed that [=SMG4=]'s biggest fear is [[spoiler: his early videos from 2011 (a scene of "The Cake was a Lie" was used to represent it).]] |
| 169 | * This is the premise of the short film ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2o8cImKnnM Rebooted]]'' as it features two versions of a Franchise/{{Batman}} {{Expy}} named Owl Guy meeting when the two issues of their respective comics are placed together in the real world: one is a light hearted costumed hero who relies on his physical abilities and very simple gadgets while the other is a DarkerAndEdgier antihero with advanced equipments who struggles to not become a killer. Modern Owl Guy mocks his Classic self's costume and clearly considers him unimpressive, while Classic Owl Guy is horrified that his Modern Self is tempted to kill while also noting how the action in the Modern world moves much faster than his. However the two are able to work together to stop a villain and become friends. |
| 170 | [[/folder]] |
| 171 | |
| 172 | [[folder:Webcomics]] |
| 173 | * Similar to the Live Action TV examples above, ''Webcomic/The10Doctors'' inevitably has some of this. After all, when the plot ''starts out'' with nine of the then-ten incarnations of the Doctor running unexpectedly into each other with no idea or recollection of why (or why one of them is missing, for that matter) and team up to solve the mystery, it's only to be expected. |
| 174 | * In ''Webcomic/{{Adventurers}}'', a flashback to a conversation between [[BigBad Khrima]] and Cody is drawn in the way author Mark Shallow drew when he first started the comic several years earlier. Shallow's drawing had improved tremendously over that time. |
| 175 | --->'''Khrima:''' My head was ''not'' that square, and I ''believe'' you had fingers. |
| 176 | * In ''Webcomic/BreakingCatNews'', Elvis, trying to comfort Sophie during a move, brings up an old comic based around his own moving worries. [[https://www.gocomics.com/breaking-cat-news/2023/01/26 The rest of the strip]] is the other cats commenting on how weird it looks compared to the present comics. |
| 177 | -->'''Lupin''': Wow, the old footage was shot WEIRD. |
| 178 | -->'''Puck''': What happened to my whiskers? |
| 179 | * ''Webcomic/TheGamercat'', [[https://thegamercat.com/comic/stylish/ while discussing Ash's redesign]] for [[Anime/PokemonTheSeriesSunAndMoon Sun and Moon]], is shown a picture of his early-strip appearance by Pixel to prove a point. He's considerably embarrassed by this. |
| 180 | * ''Webcomic/{{Shortpacked}}'': |
| 181 | ** ''The Return of Bruce Wayne'' is parodied by theorizing what [[https://shortpacked.com/comic/the-poor-fool would happen]] if Modern Age Franchise/{{Batman}} met his [[CharacterizationMarchesOn much more ruthless]] [[MediaNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age]] self. |
| 182 | ** One latter-day arc had Leslie hop between realities and end up in a [[GagPerDayWebcomics gag-per-day]] version of the strip, [[StatusQuoIsGod its format enforced by a reality-warping device]] known as [[CerebusSyndrome the Drama Tag]]. Though said reality had many differences from how the comic had actually been before continuity set in, it somewhat faithfully recreated the brushstroke-style coloring and early design quirks of the characters. |
| 183 | * In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', close to the end game, [[spoiler: the Order find themselves in a dungeon that looks identical to the one they started in, and ''immediately'' revert to walking single file while having a SeinfeldianConversation about how the rules work, much to the bewilderment of their companions, who only joined the strip once the CerebusSyndrome kicked in]]. |
| 184 | [[/folder]] |
| 185 | |
| 186 | [[folder:Web Videos]] |
| 187 | * WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic, while reviewing ''Film/ChristmasWithTheKranks'', became determined to put as little effort into his review as had been put into the film, prompting him to get Santa Christ to send him back to 2007, before he filmed his reviews in a studio with skits and special effects and instead filmed them in his parent's home, while his 2007 self went to 2015. He quickly became unnerved by the {{forced meme}}s and unrelated clips from other movies that often appeared in his old reviews. His 2007 self is likewise annoyed by skits being in the newer reviews. In the end, the modern Nostalgia Critic learns to accept his past self rather than be embarrassed by him, while his past self learns that one has to adapt with the times to stay relevant. |
| 188 | * WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd did this in his ''Franchise/MegaMan'' review, celebrating the tenth anniversary of his [=YouTube=] debut. In it he quits being the Angry Video Game Nerd, and travels back in time to warn his past selves against playing the frustrating ''Mega Man'' games he was reviewing, traveling to 2007, 2006 and ending up back in 2004. |
| 189 | * ''[[https://youtu.be/g3fIUSh0zAE?si=w3SuyQoZezxFtJun Lego Batman: Time Travel]] revolves around the stereotypical portrayal of Batman in Lego videos (a SociopathicHero who takes drugs, uses guns to kill criminals and mistreats Robin and Alfred, essentially Batman InNameOnly) and teams him up with a mostly faithful take on the Creator/AdamWest [[Series/Batman1966 “Bright Knoght” version]] (albeit, the latter being a product of the 60s is subjected to DeliberateValuesDissonance). |
| 190 | * ''WebVideo/TheMusicVideoShow'': |
| 191 | ** In its 3rd season [[https://youtu.be/RkilJgeE5go finale]], the host of that season meets her first season self [[spoiler:[[CreatorBacklash but ignores the body of]] [[RealitySubtext her second season self]]]]. Her first season self [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] the fact that she has to sit against a wall. |
| 192 | --->'''First Season Kiara:''' How come you get the chair and I don't?\ |
| 193 | '''Third Season Kiara:''' Honestly, I didn't think of the chair at the time. |
| 194 | ** And again, in the second part of Episode 100 [[spoiler:before [[TheReveal the reveal]] that the body that is from season two is [[NotQuiteDead not dead.]]]] |
| 195 | --->'''Third Season Kiara:''' Hey...you changed your clothes...\ |
| 196 | '''First Season Kiara:''' Yeah, I'm from the first season. I change my clothes a lot. |
| 197 | ** [[spoiler:Arguably, when her season three self is [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech talking with her season two self.]]]] |
| 198 | * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXGB8aw9z6A This video]] from [[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMXd8yRqYKVBxS6XwHIkXcQ Nicholas Damiani]] features a clone from ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsCloneWars'' joining a clone squad from ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'', and naturally, the differences of the clones of both series are pointed out, like how before the latter show clones wore an all white armor and had the same haircuts, and were aware of Order 66, as opposed to clones in post-2008 ''Star Wárs'' media, who personalize their armor and personal appearance, and had no idea they had been created to kill the Jedi. |
| 199 | ** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS6OBF7gCks A follow up]] video would show Rex meeting the 2003 clones and Anakin. The less mature padawanless Jedi and how Alpha was a massive brick naturally get brought up. |
| 200 | [[/folder]] |
| 201 | |
| 202 | [[folder:Western Animation]] |
| 203 | * For ''WesternAnimation/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'', the 1990 series "The Chipmunks Go To The Movies" did an episode that was a parody of ''Film/BackToTheFuture1'' called "Back to Our Future" in which the [[WesternAnimation/AlvinAndTheChipmunks 90s Chipmunks]] go back in time to meet the [[WesternAnimation/TheAlvinShow 1960s Chipmunks]] and try to stop them from quitting music and preventing the 90's chipmunks from being created. It was complete with a LimitedAnimation ArtShift. It even goes beyond the Chipmunks themselves by having the person responsible for the time travel be 1960's Chipmunks cartoon character Clyde Crashcup. |
| 204 | * ''Franchise/Ben10'': |
| 205 | ** One episode of ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien'' had Ben meeting his [[{{WesternAnimation/Ben10}} 10 year old self]]. Ben quickly discovers how annoying he had been while his past self is shocked to learn that [[EvilCounterpart Kevin 11]] eventually [[HeelFaceTurn reformed]]. |
| 206 | ** ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'' episode "Ben Again" does this, but with a twist; the time-traveling villain [[Film/Ben10RaceAgainstTime Eon]] uses his powers to swap the minds of Classic!Ben and Omniverse!Ben, leaving Classic!Gwen ''really'' weirded out on how much nicer Ben is suddenly being to her, while Rook has difficulty keeping the suddenly hyperactive Ben out of trouble. Both time eras meet in the climax. |
| 207 | * ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'': |
| 208 | ** One later drawing of WesternAnimation/BugsBunny by Creator/ChuckJones (which can be found in one of his biographies, ''Chuck Amuck'') has Bugs reacting in horror at the sight of a picture of an early version of himself from ''WesternAnimation/ElmersCandidCamera'' (a 1939 cartoon that Jones directed and considered one of several {{Old Shame}}s). |
| 209 | ** An episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheSylvesterAndTweetyMysteries'' has Tweety meeting a bird named Orson, who looks just like Creator/BobClampett's original featherless design for Tweety (where he was called "Orson" on his model sheet). |
| 210 | * The [[Film/{{Casper}} 1995 movie]] based on ''WesternAnimation/CasperTheFriendlyGhost'' got a cartoon show in 1995 or so. In one episode, Casper was trying to learn how to scare people, and at the end, he figured out his NightmareFace form: what he looked like back in the 1940s cartoons. |
| 211 | * ''WesternAnimation/DCNation'': One of the ''New WesternAnimation/{{Teen Titans|2003}}'' shorts features the Titans getting sent back in time to their previous selves. In particular, Starfire gets mad at the ridiculous length of her past hair and [[{{Stripperiffic}} general lack of clothing]]. |
| 212 | * In-universe example: In an episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents'', "The Crimson Chin meets Mighty Mom and Dyno Dad", The Crimson Chin meets several of his old personalities, from [[MediaNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks 30s pulp-fiction Chin]], to [[DarkerAndEdgier edgy]] [[MediaNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks 1985]] [[DarkerAndEdgier Chin, who got cancelled for swearing.]] They all fight crime together. |
| 213 | * ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' has the episode "Back to the Pilot" where Brian and Stewie time travel several years into the past so Brian can find the ball he had buried. The past contains the art style and technical oddities that the pilot episode had (including 4:3 aspect ratio), which Brian and Stewie lampshade repeatedly. Stewie also meets his past self and notices how said past self has a lot more cool gadgets back when he was trying to take over the world. He also notes that Meg, reusing voice samples from the first season where [[TheOtherDarrin she was voiced by]] an uncredited Creator/LaceyChabert, sounds like "someone who missed out on an opportunity". |
| 214 | * An episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheGrimAdventuresOfBillyAndMandy'' had the main trio tell Irwin about how they first met. Billy and Grim's stories are completely made-up, but Mandy tells of what really happened, complete with flashbacks to the pilot. When she finishes, Grim calls her story BS, given how little they resemble the characters in the flashbacks (which is due to art evolution). |
| 215 | * A music video seen in ''WesternAnimation/HouseOfMouse'' had WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse, WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck, WesternAnimation/{{Goofy}}, and [[WesternAnimation/PlutoThePup Pluto]] walk on top of a bridge made from a fallen log, causing them to turn black and white (similar to Simba becoming an adult during the song "Hakuna Matata" from ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994''). |
| 216 | ** The ''[[Series/WaltDisneyPresents Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color]]'' episode "The Mickey Mouse Anniversary Show" had a segment with Mickey encountering the pie-eyed, rubber-hose version of himself from his earliest cartoons like ''WesternAnimation/PlaneCrazy''. |
| 217 | --->'''60s Mickey:''' Hey, you!\ |
| 218 | '''20s Mickey:''' [[TheUnintelligible SQUEAK?]]\ |
| 219 | '''60s Mickey:''' Heh heh, are you the first original Mickey Mouse?\ |
| 220 | '''20s Mickey:''' SQUAWK!\ |
| 221 | '''60s Mickey:''' (''confused AsideGlance'') |
| 222 | * ''WesternAnimation/OKKOLetsBeHeroes'': Red Action 3: Grudgement Day sees Red Action going back in time and confronting her past self, providing a great contrast between her original design and personality. |
| 223 | * There is a ''WesternAnimation/QuackPack'' episode wherein Donald Duck is [[FountainOfYouth de-aging]]. Teenage Donald is actually how he appeared in his debut in ''[[WesternAnimation/SillySymphonies The Wise Little Hen]]'', way back in 1934. |
| 224 | * ''WesternAnimation/ReBoot'': |
| 225 | ** A third season episode had the older, teenage Enzo encountered a game containing Mainframe, in a strange homage to ''Series/ThePrisoner1967''. It was much cheesier and more in-line with the first episodes. |
| 226 | ** At the end of the third season, a system reboot results in a younger duplicate of Enzo appearing and pouncing on Bob. Matrix, who is Enzo all grown up, is speechless. |
| 227 | ** In the fourth season a second Bob shows up who is much more like the Bob of the first two seasons when compared to the Bob that came back from the Web. As a catchphrase spouting, ButtMonkey he reminds everyone of the early days at a time when they are desperate to feel more at ease following all that they have been through. Meanwhile the first Bob fused with Glitch and sporting deformed clothing and hair is a living reminder of what they had to become to survive it all. [[spoiler:It's eventually revealed that the new Bob is actually Megabyte using his new powers to impersonate Bob with his pristine data before being warped in the Web. Glitch takes Bob's data back to end the charade and restore him.]] |
| 228 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'': |
| 229 | ** The CouchGag for the season eleven episodes "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS11E1BeyondBlunderdome Beyond Blunderdome]]"[[note]]The one where Homer partners with Creator/MelGibson to revise his latest film[[/note]] and "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS11E18DaysOfWineAndDohses Days of Wine and D'oh'ses]]" [[note]]The one where Barney quits drinking after watching his birthday video and seeing how much of a loser he is when he's drunk[[/note]] have the Simpsons as they're currently drawn meeting their crudely-drawn counterparts from ''The Tracey Ullman Show'' and all ten of them freaking out. |
| 230 | ** The 2011 Simpsons wall calendar features three versions of the family all fighting each other. |
| 231 | ** In the "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS14E1TreehouseOfHorrorXIII Treehouse of Horror XIII]]" short "Send in the Clones", Homer clones himself. One of the clones looks exactly like the Tracey Ullman-era Homer, who utters the line "Let's all go out for some frosty chocolate milkshakes!", in the Walter Matthau-esque voice he was known for having back then. |
| 232 | ** "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS26E4TreehouseOfHorrorXXV Treehouse of Horror XXV]]" [[http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/09/10/simpsons-tracey-ullman-show-treehouse-of-horror/ features a segment]] parodying ''Film/TheOthers2001'' where the Simpsons meet ghostly versions of their original Creator/TraceyUllman-era selves. |
| 233 | ** It happens again in the thirty fourth season when one of the fake episodes involves Future Bart going to the very first episode in order to tell the family about how things will play in the future. |
| 234 | * The ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode "[[Recap/SouthParkS4E17AVeryCrappyChristmas A Very Crappy Christmas]]" has the protagonists make their very own animated Christmas special, which turns out to be [[spoiler:the 1995 "Spirit of Christmas" pre-series short]]. Actual footage from the program is shown on in-universe displays. |
| 235 | * ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012'' cartoon had the Turtles briefly watch their [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987 1987 counterparts]] from a [[PortalDoor dimensional window]]. Michelangelo describes them as dorks, but Donatello notices the nice jumpsuit on April. A proper crossover occurs in the episode "Trans-Dimensional Turtles", in which the 2012 and 1987 Turtles team up to stop Krang from destroying the Ninja Turtle multiverse, also running into the [[ComicBook/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesMirage Mirage Comics Turtles]] at one point. The episode also comes complete with an ArtShift between 2D and CG animation. |
| 236 | * ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo'' had the Titans meet [[WesternAnimation/TeenTitans2003 their 2003 counterparts]] during some Comic-Con promo art... [[SelfDeprecation only for the old Titans to readily hand them their keisters]]. The two versions of Starfire get along with one another nicely, though. |
| 237 | * For Disney's D23 Convention in 2017, an official piece of artwork was released celebrating the 30th anniversary of ''WesternAnimation/DuckTales1987'' by showing the cast of the [[WesternAnimation/DuckTales2017 2017 series]] running into [[WesternAnimation/Ducktales1987 their 1987 counterparts]], with the latter group surprised at how much they've changed. |
| 238 | * The episode "Time Share" from ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueAction'' essentially drops Batman and Blue Beetle into an episode of the [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries 1992 animated series]] when they travel back in time: not only are there several references to the show in regards to how Gotham looks and past Batman saying the iconic "I am vengeance" line, but past Batman is shown to be doing stake outs in his car while also using a grappling hook which is what he did in the show, as opposed to using more high tech surveillance and a grappling gun like modern Batman. This leads Batman to be a little embarrassed by his younger self while Beetle is surprised by past Batman's lack of technology and skill, but also still impressed by how cool he looked when he said the line. |
| 239 | * ''[[WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse2013 The Wonderful World Of Mickey Mouse]]'': ''[[Recap/TheWonderfulWorldOfMickeyMouseS2E5SteamboatSilly Steamboat Silly]]'' is based around that basic idea: WesternAnimation/{{Mickey|Mouse}} and his friends watch an old vacation video of Mickey (actually the old cartoon ''WesternAnimation/SteamboatWillie''), before the film is destroyed and a lot of black and white Mickey's start rampaging in the town. This short is both a homage to Mickey's roots and highlights the differences between the more carefree and reckless early Mickey and the fun-loving, but kind-hearted version of the 2013-era. |
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