Line #90 Main/DivineDelegation


1	->''"And on the Third Day, God said: Yea, I Am taking the Rest of The Week Off. You Stay Here and Finish Up Without Me."''
2	-->-- ''Redthorn''
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4	When creating a fantasy setting, some authors seem to want to both eat and have their cake when it comes to the gods. One almighty [[TheMaker Creator]], or a rowdy pagan pantheon? Let's have both!
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6	In the basic version of this scenario, [[TopGod the Creator]] first makes lesser gods -- or archangels, or what have you -- then makes at least some parts of the universe, then tells His divine children to finish the job themselves. Mortals may be the Creator's handiwork or that of the lessers; once they show up, they might worship the Creator, the lesser beings, or both.
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8	This is formally referred to as a ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism henotheistic]]'' scenario. It's handy for letting readers with low tolerance for fantasy believe that "the real God" (aka the Judeo-Christian Father) really was responsible for these worlds, just under a different name. This is also [[TruthInTelevision the actual religious belief of some faiths]]; some [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnism Omnists/Pantheists]], for example, believe that the supreme creator God described in monotheistic faiths created the lesser polytheistic gods to handle the day-to-day, nuts-and-bolts details of creation, and quite a lot of polytheistic mythologies include a Creator/first deity who created the rest.
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10	The Creator deity usually leaves it in the hands of CelestialParagonsAndArchangels to finish the job. See also TopGod, and OddJobGods.
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12	!!Examples:
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17	* In ''Manga/FushigiYuugi'', Taiitsukun created TheFourGods, as well as various other deities and spirits, such as the Nyan-Nyan. She also taught [[WarriorMonk Chichiri]] how to use magic. The Four Gods look after their designated region of the universe and grant the wishes of their priestesses, and the Nyan-Nyan do minor tasks like [[HealingHands heal the sick and injured]] or help out with GhostlyGoals by serving as temporary vessels for ghosts...and annoy Taiitsukun, who herself may dispense advice or {{MacGuffin}}s to the protagonists.
18	* ''{{Manga/HeavensDesignTeam}}'' is about a troupe of designers commissioned by God to design the animals that will populate his new project Earth. The premise is {{Edutainment}} that explains animal features and certain physical limits their anatomy complies with as they struggle to meet God's incredibly vague requests. God is never seen while his only contact with the team is recorded messages or angels in business suits He sends on his behalf.
19	* In ''Anime/{{Slayers}}'', the Lord of Nightmares (aka L-sama), the local almighty supreme deity, created all of the worlds. Later she created various Gods and Dark Lords, and appointed one God and one Dark Lord for each world. Then the Gods created themselves lesser gods, and the Dark Lords created themselves lesser mazoku.
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23	* ''Comicbook/{{Lucifer}}'':
24	** The universe was created by YHWH. Pretty much everything ''in'' it, however, was created by the Angels under his loose supervision. This didn't work terribly well (an entire existence designed by committee?), but he had his reasons--as the Angels discovered when everything started going to shit a few billion years later.
25	** Lucifer himself makes his own Creation during the comic's run, and a third one is created later, as well. It's also implied that Yahweh wasn't the first one in the God-business, and there may have been others creating worlds before Him; the few survivors from those worlds would like nothing more than to burn His to a cinder to get out.
26	* In the ''Franchise/MarvelUniverse[='s=]'' "Cosmic Marvel" line, this is how the cosmic hierarchy works. There is one all-powerful entity, called "{{God}}", The Fulcrum, The One-Above-All, Above-All-Others or "Creator/JackKirby", who is technically omnibenevolent and omniscient, but S/He works through its agents such as [[GuardianOfTheMultiverse The Living Tribunal]], the Watchers, and the [[CosmicEntity cosmic beings Eternity, Infinity, Order, Chaos, Oblivion, Death, etc.]]. In a twist on the trope, Judeo-Christian beings such as archangels, demon lords, and so forth are even lower on the power scale and rarely have any power whatsoever outside of Earth.
27	* According to ''ComicBook/HowardTheDuck'', God made the universe on commission from beings who have realities made essentially as art pieces. It was God that suggested the inclusion of actual autonomous life in this project, to make the work dynamic instead of static like others. His client balked at the risk of "competition" from new immortal intellects until He compromised by making life mortal. Fortunately, God snuck in the capacity for evolution so that it was also possible for living beings to one day achieve immortality.
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31	* In ''RolePlay/WeAreAllPokemonTrainers'', Arceus normally leaves things to the other legendaries due to being buried in paperwork.
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35	* In ''Literature/TheBelgariad'', UL created the universe and then seven other gods, his sons, to make the actual world they would inhabit, while he basically sat around and grumbled at how poor a job they were doing.
36	** All the lesser gods chose a people. The people that became known as the Ulgos weren't chosen by anybody, so they petitioned UL to let them worship him. He said something along the lines of "fine, whatever" but didn't seem particularly excited about the prospect, so their entire philosophy/religion is "we don't know what might make UL change his mind and abandon us again, but whatever it is is probably something fun, so let's not have any."
37	* In ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'', anthropomorphic spirits of rivers, forests, etc exist and were created by [[CrystalDragonJesus Aslan/The Emperor]]. Characters admire them, in the same way strong humans are admired, but they aren't worshipped or [[OmniscientMoralityLicense flawless]]. It's like the difference between respecting a mountain's natural beauty and praying to that mountain for a good harvest.
38	* ''Literature/TheCosmere'': The universe was created ([[AmbiguousSituation maybe]]) by [[TheMaker the God Beyond]], but virtually nothing is known about Them; They seem to take a ''very'' [[HaveYouSeenMyGod noninterventionist]] stance on Their creation and reside in the Beyond (i.e., outside of physical reality as we understand it), while the lesser gods They created (such as [[TopGod Adonalsium]] and [[PiecesOfGod his Shards]]) along with everything else interact with and manage the mortal worlds. Notably, even the lesser gods themselves cannot go to the Beyond; ''that's'' how far above them the God Beyond is.
39	* The Creator of the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' universe apparently hires other beings, also referred to as Creators, to make worlds. Some (such as the Creator of the Disc) are put-upon workmen, others (such as the Old Man Who Carries the Universe in a Sack, who later patched Fourecks in) are rather more artistic. Gods come later in the process, and don't really do all that much other than smiting.
40	* In ''Literature/HeraldsOfValdemar'', someone created the [[OurAngelsAreDifferent Companions]] and works through [[TheChosenMany Heralds]] to preserve the world. As befits the RuleOfDrama, neither are immortal or omniscient, though they are incorruptible for all intents and purposes. [[spoiler:The firecats are this trope for a different country, being Companions in another form.]]
41	* In ''Literature/HisDarkMaterials'', it's arguable that some force (probably [[spoiler:Dust]], maybe something else), ''is'' the true Creator of the Universe, never mind all those [[OurAngelsAreDifferent angels that take the credit and then argue about it]]. A possible candidate would be the goddess Yambe-Akka, mentioned in the first book by the witches, though like her mythological namesake, she is only mentioned as a {{psychopomp}}.
42	* In Creator/LordDunsany's ''Literature/TheGodsOfPegana,'' creation works this way, more or less. MANA-YOOD-SUSHAI created the 'little gods' and a bit of space for them to work with, then took a long long nap while they created the Worlds.
43	* Piers Anthony's ''Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality'' series features five lesser "gods" (the major incarnations of Death, Fate, Nature, Time, War) and a host of minor associated incarnations (War, for example, has Famine, Pestilence, Conquest and Slaughter ... and [[HorsemenOfTheApocalypse yes, they ride horses]]). God exists, but seems to be a Divine Delegator of the hands-off variety until book six of what was originally conceived as a five-book series, when it turns out that Satan (who has been an active antagonist throughout the series) [[spoiler:is an incarnation as well]]. Book 7 implies that there may be a Divine Delegator somewhere, but it's [[spoiler:some unknowable cosmic principle and not "God" since He's a delegate Himself]].
44	* ''Literature/KeysToTheKingdom'' falls into this indirectly. "The Architect" created the universe, [[HaveYouSeenMyGod then went off somewhere--nobody knows where]]. Her instructions were to appoint a mortal as her heir, but the seven greatest ([[SevenDeadlySins and most corrupt]]) members of the CelestialBureaucracy took power for themselves and have been having one ''hell'' of a time.
45	* In ''The Lords of Dûs'' the god of Time Dagha created time and the fourteen gods of [[FantasyPantheon Eir and Dûs]]. Those gods in turn created the lesser gods of the Arkhein and the world itself. This becomes important when [[spoiler:[[DeathOfTheOldGods Dagha dies, and the fourteen gods with him]]. Everything Dagha ''directly'' created died with him, but the Arkhein and the world were separate enough from his existence to survive, as did time]].
46	* Yuuzhan Vong mythology in the ''Literature/NewJediOrder'' series states that their TopGod, Yun-Yuuzhan the Creator, well, ''created'' the other gods (and all of the mass and energy of the universe) from various bits of his own body (which [[HumanSacrifice sets a strong precedent]]). Then the other gods, such as Yun-Harla [[TricksterGod the Deceiver]], and Yun-Yammka, [[WarGod the Slayer]], set about actually running the show and shaping the Yuuzhan Vong themselves.
47	* In Creator/{{Voltaire}}'s short story ''[[http://wondersmith.com/scifi/plato.htm Plato's Dream]]'', the chief creator Demiurgos makes a number of lesser superbeings and then assigns each of them to create one of the planets in the solar system.
48	* ''Franchise/TolkiensLegendarium'' is a very good example. Creator/JRRTolkien himself was a devout Catholic, and always kept trying to figure out how to integrate or reconcile his ideas about a fantasy world with his deeply-held belief in Catholic doctrine. So in the first part of ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'', he set up the theology of Arda as follows:
49	## Eru Ilúvatar, "The One" Creator, is God. He [[MagicMusic sang into existence]] the Ainur, a lesser form of divine/spiritual being.
50	## He then directed the Ainur in a Great Music.
51	*** At this juncture, Melkor, one of the more powerful Ainur, decides to make his own melodies dissonant with the Great Music. Watch this guy.
52	## He then showed the Ainur what the Great Music had wrought: Arda, the whole world. At the time it was a flat and lifeless rock. He sends the Ainur down to shape it as they will. The most powerful Ainur become the Valar; the rest become the weaker (but still powerful) Maiar. [[GodOfEvil Melkor]] keeps wrecking the work they have done and ends up as the BigBad.
53	*** It might be useful to think of the Valar as a sort of cross between gods, archangels, and major saints and the Maiar as lesser gods/angels/saints. They are worshipped, but they themselves worship Ilúvatar.
54	*** Worth noting that ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'' specifically gives the name of one of the Maiar as Olórin, and that Gandalf, listing the names under which he's known to different cultures, mentions that "in his youth in the West that is forgotten" he was known as ... Olórin. The Balrogs are also presumably (fallen) Maiar.
55	## Once the Valar and Maiar more or less finished shaping Arda despite Melkor's actions, one of the Valar (Aulë) creates the Dwarves; Ilúvatar chastises him (mildly) for this, then prevents him from destroying the Dwarves and gives them free will. However, he doesn't intend to let his own creations (the Elves and Men) get upstaged, so he puts the Dwarves to sleep, takes them away, and hides them until later. Some time thereafter, Ilúvatar awakens the Elves, then later (at the first rising of the Sun), he awakens Men. Exactly when the Dwarves woke up again isn't specified, but probably between the two.
56	## Ents have a similar origin; Ilúvatar seems to have given them sentience (without actually saying anything about it) because Yavanna was worried about what the Dwarves were going to do to the plants, who had no way to protect themselves. Apparently the eagles may have been created in a similar way with Manwë, the ruling Vala.
57	* In Roy Pond's ''Tomb Travellers'', the Egyptian gods exist but aren't really gods, in the sense that they are 1) weaker than the Christian God, and 2) completely orthogonal to human existence. They don't really need or care about humanity, they're just...there. The protagonists' intimate relationship with their God is contrasted with the hollow, lightless afterlife that Egyptian peasants get stuck in: their gods can give food and wealth (in exchange for worship), but not love. [[spoiler:No word on what happens after Julia converts those peasants.]]
58	* Orr from ''Literature/TheWarGods'' series created the universe and then a whole pantheon of lesser gods and goddesses to help run it, though there were exceptions. The realm of demons and devils where Shigu, the wife of Phorbros after he rebelled, came from seems to be separate from but connected to Orr's creation and ''no one'' knows where Hirahim Lightfoot, the resident trickster deity, came from even if he does acknowledge Orr's authority.
59	* Diane Duane's ''Literature/YoungWizards'' novels have the Powers, angelic/deific beings, creating the universe(s). Although the tone of the series is vaguely Christian, references to any being superior to the Powers are hard to find.
60	** From the fifth book onward, the series makes repeated references to a supreme being referred to as "the One." Speaking of which, look at the final line of the Wizard's Oath:
61	--->To these ends, in the practice of my art, I will ever put aside fear for courage, and death for life--looking always toward the Heart of Time, where all our sundered times are one, and all our myriad worlds lie whole, '''in the One from Whom they proceeded...'''
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65	* In ''{{Series/Supernatural}}'', God has left heaven and Earth to be run by the Archangels and the angels. Except that [[spoiler:in the absence of God, the Archangels decide to start the Apocalypse.]] Oops.
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69	* In vanilla ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', deities have a hierarchy that measures personal power and - usually - authority. Greater gods are usually the most powerful and rule their respective pantheons (Zeus and his siblings fit this group) Intermediate gods are a rank below and still have a great deal of authority (most of the other Olympian gods would fit here), lesser gods are slightly lower (Nike and Eros would fit), while demigods are usually mortals who ascended to godhood, like Hercules.
70	* ''Literature/{{Dragonlance}}'': The Highgod from Beyond created the twenty-one gods - seven good, seven neutral, seven evil. Between them, they then create the world of Krynn and its peoples. Note that the Highgod is ''not'' the Judeo-Christian God--he's more like an EldritchAbomination who didn't initially know what his children were doing, and when he discovered that they'd created a world, he started ''[[DeaderThanDead erasing people from existence]]'', and it never occurred to him that the lives he took might have any value.
71	* The ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'' universe may have been created by the Overgod Ao, but the world of Toril is the creation of the goddesses Selune and Shar.
72	** In the Avatar Trilogy, it is shown that Ao has a boss of his own, described as a "being of pure light" which is strongly implied to be the Judeao-Christian God.
73	* In ''TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'' the Athar deny that the PowersThatBe are truly gods, at least the ones mortals know about, but they believe in something called The Greater Unknown, which they claim is the true source of divinity. (Athar who are priests gain their spells from this source.)
74	* ''TabletopGame/InNomine'' has the Archangels shaping the world at God's command, up until humans were created and God told the angels to leave Earth and not interfere. Lucifer took exception to this. As a result of the rebellion, the Archangels can no longer communicate clearly with God and have decided they need to stick around to counter the demons' plans, resulting in a millennia-long cold war between Heaven and Hell.
75	* In ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'', the Primordials created the universe, then created the gods to keep everything running while they wrecked shit and played games and then expected the gods to clean it all up. The gods were not pleased by this arrangement. So the gods created the Exalted, who could slip the bonds of the pact between the gods and the Primordials and actually kill them. And after the great war... the Exalted were charged with keeping everything running, while the gods engaged in the Games of Divinity. Yeah.
76	** It is implied that all the gods actually wanted was a part in the Games. This doesn't make the whole debacle any less ridiculous.
77	** It's also pretty much stated that the Primordials created the world solely to have a place to rest from their constant struggle against the unformed chaos of the Wyld, where they first came to be. This might to some extent explain their attitude towards it. (It could also be argued that the Primordials, while they did create the world everybody in the setting knows, did not so much create 'the universe'; the Wyld existed before them and who, if anybody at all, may be responsible for creating ''that'' is unknown.)
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81	* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''
82	** The [[OurGodsAreDifferent Aedra and Daedra]] are this, albeit indirectly in a PiecesOfGod sense. They are said to have formed from the spilled blood of [[CreationMyth Anu and Padomay]], the GodOfGods and TheAntiGod who are the [[AnthropomorphicPersonification personifications]] of the forces of [[OrderVersusChaos "stasis/order/light" and "change/chaos/darkness"]], respectively. As Padomay [[DrivenByEnvy attempted to destroy creation]] because it favored Anu, he and Anu fought before Anu [[TakingYouWithMe pulled them both outside of time]]. According to some myths, the Aedra are "Anuic" beings, emerging from intermingled blood of Anu and Padomay, while the Daedra are purely "Padomaic" beings, emerging from the blood of Padomay.
83	** In the [[ScaryBlackMan Yokudan/Redguard]] pantheon, Ruptga, the "Tall Papa" and [[TopGod chief deity]] of their pantheon, created such a hierarchy. To note:
84	*** Ruptga gave purpose to Tu'whacca, another greater spirit who did not previously have one. (He was essentially a God of Life and Death in a world where everyone was immortal spirits.) Tu'whacca would be the caretaker of the [[WarriorHeaven Far Shores]] and [[{{Psychopomp}} help guide souls there]].
85	*** Ruptga created Sep, the Yokudan serpentine version of [[GodIsDead Lorkhan]] to help him save the lesser spirits from Satakal's ViciousCycle of devouring the world. Sep immediately began consuming the souls instead, forcing Ruptga to save them. Sep then devised the idea of Mundus, which was supposed to be an easier alternative to the Walkabout, Ruptga's method of saving the souls, but instead it trapped the souls and made it ''harder'' for them to reach the Far Shores. Thus, Ruptga punished Sep by "squashing him with [[CarryABigStick a big stick]]".
86	*** Some of Ruptga's children (Leki, Zeht, [=HoonDing=]) and his wife (Morwha) are also deities in the Yokudan pantheon.
87	* ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' has Din, Nayru and Farore, "The Golden Goddesses" who left the world some time after creating it. Other beings of varying degree of power are commonly described as gods through the series, generally as implicitly or explicitly having been put there by the Golden Goddesses to maintain and protect in their absence. The threat level of Hyrule generally leaves them the divine equivalent of a BadlyBatteredBabysitter.
88	** ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'' has the goddess Hylia, implicitly the highest ranked of the delegate divinities, who [[spoiler: incarnates as the mortal Zelda, leaving her power and soul within that bloodline]]. Below her, the surface is protected by a trio of dragons: Faron the Water Dragon that guards the Woods, Lanayru the Thunder Dragon who oversees the Desert and Eldin the Fire Dragon who watches over the Volcano, while the skies are protected by the whale-like deity Levias.
89	** ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess'' has the light spirits Ordona, Faron, Lanaryu, and Eldin, each tasked with keeping one province of Hyrule protected from magical darkness and the like.
90	** ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'' has the Deku Tree as a godlike figure for the Kokiri and Jabu-Jabu as a godlike figure for the Zora.
91	** ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'' has the Deku Tree as the Spirit of Earth, the great fish Jabun as the Spirit of Water, the dragon Valoo as the Spirit of Fire, and a pair of... frog things as the Spirits of Air.
92	** ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'' has the three dragons, Dinraal, Naydra, and Farosh, who guard the Springs of Power, Wisdom, and Courage respectively.
93	* The [[PowersThatBe Elder Powers]] from ''VideoGame/NexusClash'' have various origins, but some of them are so old that no one knows where they came from, much less who created them. This was originally a nod to the original creator's [[UsefulNotes/{{Deism}} Deism]], but the origins of the setting are left deliberately mysterious.
94	* According to the mythology in ''VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl'', after the original Pokemon Arceus created the universe, he created Dialga, Palkia and Giratina (representing time, space and anti-matter), followed by Uxie, Mesprit and Azelf (knowledge, emotion and willpower). After that, he went into a deep sleep, and the others took care of everything.
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98	* The cosmology of ''Webcomic/KillSixBillionDemons'' begins with the supreme god YISUN, an infinite being simultaneously alive and dead, everything and nothing at once. Tormented by their circular, stagnant existence, YISUN committed divine suicide to split into the gods YIS, black goddess of everything that was, and UN, white god of everything that wasn't. YIS and UN were so horrified by each other that they warred for seven years, then made love for seven hours, and ultimately birthed 777,777 other black and white gods, who first built the heavenly city of Throne, then all kinds of life, and had various misadventures before finally killing themselves in turn to create [[TheMultiverse 777,777 new universes]], which the life they created migrated into. Despite being dead, YISUN has a habit of showing up alive and well in mythology to hang out with their various descendant gods.
99	* In ''Webcomic/{{Misfile}}'', God created the Celestial Filing Deposit some time after creation and leaves the day-to-day organization of the universe to the angels. Nobody knows why, as God isn't talking and seems to only intervene when something big happens, like when Satan tried to take over.
100	* ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'': Mohkadunese mythology tells of "the One", who empowered Prozoato (the Creator), Kozoaku (the Destroyer), and later Krohnus (the God of Time). In practice, Krohnus is the TopGod of a pantheon of [[DeityOfHumanOrigin other exalted mortals]], with Kozoaku a GodOfEvil and neither the One nor Prozoato obviously engaged with events.
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