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7	->''"To lose to a mere apprentice... I have been disgraced! Only death can remove this stain upon my honor."''
8	-->-- '''Sir Gawain/Knuckles the Echidna''', ''VideoGame/SonicAndTheBlackKnight''
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10	Sometimes all the experience and training in the world will not protect you. Sometimes luck is not on your side and even the top mercenaries in the world have nothing against luck. Sometimes someone can pick up a gun and manage to take out a few people.
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12	There are four ways that this trope is in effect:
13	# '''Blind Luck''': Someone with little to no training picks up a gun, fires and kills someone who is far better trained. Similar to AccidentalAimingSkills or AchievementsInIgnorance.
14	# '''Superior Tactics''': The inexperienced use tactics that the elites were not prepared for. They may not be the best, but the elites can be surprised. Usually, this would be a CombatPragmatist.
15	# '''Cheap Shot''': A DirtyCoward shoots the experienced in the back. Falling under InTheBack or other cowardly moves.
16	# '''Non-Fatal''': The non-lethal variety. Sometimes, a new guy in chess can put someone with practice in checkmate.
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18	Note: cheating does not count because, unlike just being normally inexperienced, cheating means that there are rules being broken and no skilled person can really beat a cheater.
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20	Different from TheWorldsExpertOnGettingKilled because that trope is about an expert on a subject being killed by someone/something they are knowledgeable about. This trope is about different levels of training between opponents.
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22	Sister Trope to BeginnersLuck due to both having some degree of luck being involved.
23	Can be joined with UnskilledButStrong or HardWorkHardlyWorks.
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25	'''This is mostly a {{Death Trope\|s}}, so be warned of unmarked spoilers.'''
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27	!!Examples:
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31	[[folder:Anime & Manga]]
32	* ''Manga/Eyeshield21'': Most of the Devilbats are only in their first year of football and while some of them like Sena and Monta have experience that help transitioning to becoming aces they are behind the strongest team by miles in experience and talents. But they manage huge upset thanks to calculated risk and superior tactics of their quarterback Hiruma. One rival even notes most of their plays like option routes and wishbone are too advanced for high school football.
33	* ''Manga/{{Holyland}}'': In the final chapter, [[TheHero Yuu]], after battling his way to the top of the street fighters' hierarchy of badassitude, is taken down by a cheap shot from a random nobody with a knife [[ThePerilsOfBeingTheBest trying to make a name out of having defeated the "Thug Hunter"]]. [[spoiler:TheStinger at the end of the WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue chapter reveals he survived.]]
34	* ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders'': Jotaro faces off against Telence T. D'Arby, a highly skilled pro video gamer, in a baseball video game, despite having '''never''' played '''any''' video game before. He predictably bungles up most of the first round... until he finally says that he's "gotten the hang of it" and scores a home run, then proceeds to prove that it wasn't blind luck, just [[InstantExpert ridiculously fast rate of learning]]. It's only when Telence starts cheating with his mind-reading Stand that Jotaro starts cheating himself (via [[spoiler:having his grandfather Joseph surreptitiously hijack the controller]]).
35	* ''Manga/VinlandSaga'':
36	** Askeladd, one of the most skilled fighters in the manga, is killed when he's blindsided and stabbed in the stomach by NonActionGuy Canute while busy with another foe. [[spoiler:Subverted in that Askeladd's death was a ThanatosGambit done for Canute's benefit; despite the wound he could probably have kept fighting long enough to take more people with him, but he stops when realizes Canute was the one to wound him.]]
37	** In the second arc, BoisterousWeakling Olmar manages to kill one of Canute's housecarls in a DuelToTheDeath with a freak stab to the neck, despite being hopelessly outmatched. [[spoiler:Subverted in that Canute had rigged the duel by using a third party to distract the housecarl at a critical moment, allowing Olmar to land the blow. Thorgil immediately realizes the duel was fixed when seeing the outcome.]]
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40	[[folder:Comic Books]]
41	* ''ComicBook/Robin1993'': Edmund Dorrance, a BlindWeaponmaster who is skilled enough to give Lady Shiva a fun fight, is defeated in a fight by Tim while he's still in training due to Tim's meticulous planning. Tim was also careful not to run in, only approaching Dorrance after he had already fought and beat to death a more impulsive attacker.
42	* ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'': Former superhero Hollis Mason (Nite Owl I) is killed by a gang of street thugs who overpower him. Justified because it's one against many and he is much older, though he still puts up a good fight.
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45	[[folder:Film -- Animated]]
46	* ''WesternAnimation/Cars3'': [[spoiler:Non-race car Cruz Ramirez switches out with Lightning [=McQueen=] and is able to win her first race against a number of experienced racers.]]
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49	[[folder:Film -- Live-Action]]
50	* ''Film/{{Collateral}}'': Max, a cab driver who has probably never held a gun before that night, manages to get the best of Vincent, an infamous and deadly assassin. Vincent follows his training and shoots perfectly for center mass... only for the bullets to harmlessly embed themselves in the metal section of the train door between the two men. Meanwhile Max shoots wildly, and a lucky shot goes through the window and fatally wounds Vincent.
51	* ''Film/{{Gladiator}}'': Commodus attempts to invoke this; he stabs Maximus before their fight to ensure his unlikely victory and thus make it seem like the weaker/less experienced fighter would win. However, Maximus holds out long enough to kill Commodus before succumbing to his wound.
52	* ''Film/GreenRoom'': Pat and Amber are able to kill a few neo-Nazis without any 'real' combat experience. [[spoiler:Pat has gone paintballing and uses his tactic of rushing his opponents for that against the neo-Nazis.]]
53	* ''Film/{{Logan}}'': Wolverine gets his ass kicked and eventually killed by X-24, his perfect clone. While X-24 is a perfect clone, he doesn't have the experience that Logan has. A running theme in the film is that Logan is DentedIron.
54	* ''Film/LoneSurvivor'': The Taliban kills three well-trained Navy [=SEAL=]s and forces the fourth to run.
55	* ''Film/ANewHope'': With the InformedAbility of Stormtroopers, Luke is surprisingly able to take them down. Not as surprising in later films.
56	* ''Film/{{Predators}}'': NonActionGuy Edwin blindsides Isabelle, a trained soldier and sharpshooter, while she is distracted and stabs her with a knife laced with a paralyzing neurotoxin.
57	* ''Film/TheProfessional'': Formidable badass Leon is killed when Stansfield cowardly shoots him in the back of the head.
58	* ''Film/RamboIV'': A missionary kills a soldier with a rock.
59	* ''Film/RedDawn1984'': The Wolverines are able to kill Russian Spetsnaz. The Spetsnaz are the best of the best in the Russian military.
60	* ''Film/TheTerminator'': Sarah Connor is able to beat an unstoppable death machine without any real training. Somewhat downplayed in that by the time she faces off with the Terminator alone, it has been seriously damaged (in fact, it's been blown in half) by Kyle Reese, who is not only an experienced soldier but has faced off with Terminators before.
61	* ''Film/TrueGrit'': Young girl Mattie kills Chaney, an experienced outlaw.
62	* ''Film/{{Whiplash}}'': Andrew loses his position as lead drummer to Connolly. A weaker drummer. Zig-zagged since it was Fletcher's tactic to push Andrew to the edge.
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65	[[folder:Literature]]
66	* Discussed in ''Literature/AConnecticutYankeeInKingArthursCourt''; it's mentioned that the best swordsman in the world has more to fear from the novice rather than the second-best swordsman, precisely because the novice is more likely to do something unpredictable.
67	* ''Literature/TheMeaningOfLiff'' defines "Aboyne" as "to beat an expert at a game of skill by playing so appallingly that none of his clever tactics or strategies are of any use to him".
68	* ''Literature/{{Savages}}'': Pacifist turned badass Ben is able to kill numerous cartel soldiers only about two days after learning how to shoot properly.
69	* ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'': After Mat (a fairly inexperienced combatant) manages to defeat two trained swordsmen with a staff, the teacher who observes this happen takes a moment to remind all the other aspiring swordsmen students present that the greatest MasterSwordsman ever to live -- an EmpoweredBadassNormal, veteran of 10,000 combats, who once defeated ten men simultaneously -- lost only one fight, to a farmer with a [[MartialArtsStaff quarterstaff]]. The point is to never underestimate any opponent, no matter their rank in life, their experience as a fighter, or what weapon they're using.
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72	[[folder:Live-Action TV]]
73	* ''Series/BreakingBad'': Walter White is able to use his knowledge of chemistry to create an explosive substance and intimidate veteran cartel member Tuco Salamanca into working with him despite being a mere high school teacher.
74	* ''Series/{{Deadwood}}'': As TruthInTelevision, Wild Bill Hicock was shot in the back while playing poker by Jack [=McCall=], who was angry over losing to Bill at cards.
75	* ''Series/{{Fargo}}'':
76	** In Season 1, despite being a ButtMonkey with no real fighting expierence, Lester Nygaard outsmarts savvy hitman Lorne Malvo.
77	** In Season 2, Ed and Peggy Blumquist constantly do this. Notably, Ed manages to kill a hitman who works for the Gerhardts and Peggy is able to subdue Dodd Gerhardt with only minor issues.
78	* ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'': In the Season 2 finale, Hannibal Lecter is able to escape from two well trained FBI agents.
79	* Several times in ''Series/{{Highlander}}'':
80	** Richie manages to defeat Annie Devlin after Duncan has just begun training him. Duncan shows him how to counter Annie's favorite technique and it works.
81	** Later, Richie gets his first kill against the 300-year-old Mako. Granted, Mako might have had the advantage until he wound up trapped by a broken piece of furniture, rendering him unable to maneuver as Richie came to kill him.
82	** Duncan himself against the 1500+-year-old Grayson. Duncan is not inexperienced by any means, having been a soldier and warrior for several centuries, but compared to Grayson, who has been a warrior and warmonger all the way back to [[TheOlderImmortal before the fall of the Roman Empire]], he is at a disadvantage. He isn't sure he can beat Grayson until he actually manages to do it, and several seasons later members of [[TheWatcher the Watchers organization]] mention that they viewed Duncan's victory as an enormous surprise.
83	** A stronger example involving Duncan is his very first fight against another Immortal, before he even knew what an Immortal was. He faced off against Kanewulf the Viking, an Immortal who was several hundred years old and much more experienced. Duncan beat Kanewulf by a combination of BeginnersLuck and pure rage, since Kanewulf had just killed his adoptive father, the Chief of his clan.
84	* ''Series/MyWorldAndWelcomeToIt'': Narrowly averted in "Little Girls Are Sugar and Spice -- and Not Always Nice." John feels the need to connect more closely with Lydia and proposes they play chess together as a bonding experience. Even though the girl is new to the game, she puts her far more experienced father on the ropes, to the point where John finds excuses to interrupt the game and later consults with a chess-expert friend of his at work to try and figure out how to beat her. Lydia only lets up when her mother suggests she go easy on John to spare his pride.
85	* ''Series/StarTrekPicard'': In "[[Recap/StarTrekPicardS1E03TheEndIsTheBeginning The End Is the Beginning]]", Dr. Agnes Jurati is a non-combatant, but she kills a Zhat Vash assassin by shooting him InTheBack with a disruptor rifle.
86	* ''Series/TheSuiteLifeOfZackAndCody'': In ''The Suite Life on Deck'', when Cody is temporarily distracted during his chess championship, he puts London in charge. Despite being a BrainlessBeauty, she pulls a move that wins the match against her intelligent and experienced opponent -- unfortunately for Cody, this means she wins the title for herself instead of him.
87	* ''Series/TheTwoRonnies'': Played for laughs in one sketch where Ronnie Corbett's character, a squash champion, is incensed that Ronnie Barker's character, a newbie so clueless he can't even get the name of the game right, has effortlessly beaten him.
88	* ''Series/TheWire'':
89	** In "[[Recap/TheWireS05E08Clarifications Clarifications]]", Omar Little -- a KarmicThief who has spent a decade or more stealing from other criminals and survived numerous shootouts, ambushes, and other predicaments -- is killed when a kid he doesn't know shoots him in the back of the head to earn some [[VillainCred street cred]].
90	** 14-year-old Michael Lee is just being taken into a life of crime during "[[Recap/TheWireS04E12ThatsGotHisOwn That's Got His Own]]" when he is put into a simulated gunfight against Chris Partlow and Snoop, [[ProfessionalKiller the top assassins/enforcers]] for the Stanfield gang, which has large swathes of Baltimore in an iron grip. It ''should'' be an UnwinnableTrainingSimulation, but by cleverly using debris in an abandoned building for concealment, Michael manages to lure them into an improvised trap and shoots them both with paintball rounds, winning the "fight".
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93	[[folder:Professional Wrestling]]
94	* On the September 22, 1997 ''Wrestling/WCWMondayNitro'', [[Wrestling/{{BillDemott}} "The Laughing Man" Hugh Morrus]], seven years into his career, was defeated by the debuting rookie [[Wrestling/{{Goldberg}} Bill Goldberg]], in a match which included Goldberg becoming the first wrestler to kick out of Morrus' FinishingMove No Laughing Matter.
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97	[[folder:Video Games]]
98	* ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty'': A non-lethal variation. In basic training, the player (usually the new guy) can outshoot a lot of guys practicing just because it's a player.
99	* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'':
100	** While ''very'' unlikely, the player can be beaten by someone younger than them.
101	** Conversely, the player characters can and will defeat trainers who have been training for far longer than them.
102	* ''VideoGame/SonicAndTheBlackKnight'': Sonic, an apprentice knight, manages to defeat a trio of Knights of the Round Table. The humiliation of being beaten by a "mere apprentice" is enough for Knuckles to be DrivenToSuicide.
103	* ''VideoGame/UntilDawn'': A group of college students are able to kill numerous {{Wendigo}}s with minimal knowledge in survival.
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106	[[folder:Web Videos]]
107	* ''WebAnimation/BattlefieldFriends'': The N00b, of all characters, is the one who is able to kill the 100 Colonel. In fact, it's the only time the 100 Colonel is shown dying on screen.
108	* ''WebVideo/VideoGameHighSchool'': When Brain returns from being AFK, he kills The Law with minimum effort. Granted, The Law was toying with him for being AFK and not fully paying attention.
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111	[[folder:Western Animation]]
112	* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'':
113	** Played with in "[[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheBlindBandit The Blind Bandit]]" when Aang first runs into Toph in an earthbender fighting competition while he's looking for someone to teach him [[DishingOutDirt earthbending]]. He uses [[BlowYouAway airbending]] and beats her. However, neither knew the others skillset but both were the best, so whoever won would have been this trope. [[spoiler:In the SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'', Toph can now ''dodge'' airbending.]]
114	** Much of Avatar consists of Aang, who is an excellent airbender (and the youngest airbender to ever be awarded the rank of master), but is still a 12-year-old boy who has no experience with the special powers that come with being the Avatar and little time to train with any elements besides air overcoming seasoned combatants and masters of various elements.
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117	[[folder:Real Life]]
118	* The NVA and Viet Cong in UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar were able to keep the better armed forces of the US at bay and eventually causing them to retreat due their knowledge and use of the environment.
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