Line #7 FandomRivalry/LiveActionFilms


1	* ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' and ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' can be construed as an Creator/OrlandoBloom tug-of-war ([[DontExplainTheJoke he's Will Turner and Legolas respectively]]).
2	** You don't even have to leave the ''Pirates'' fandom to find a rivalry. Creator/JohnnyDepp fans love to attack Orlando Bloom fans on some forums, because they think Bloom is trying to copy him (apparently bearing a slight physical resemblance to someone equals trying to be him in some minds). And then there's the [[ShipToShipCombat ship wars]] that break out over who Elizabeth should have ended up with.
3	* Fans of Creator/ChristopherNolan's ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'' have achieved rivalries with a long list of film fans:
4	** Because they were both superhero movies released in 2008 that became extremely successful, a small rivalry developed between fans of ''Film/IronMan'' and ''Film/TheDarkKnight''. While the rivalry seemed to be pretty friendly (most fans were too happy to get '''two''' good superhero movies in one year and saw both), a small faction seemed to need to bolster their favorite movie by bashing the other. ''TDK'' fans accused ''IM'' of being a standard issue Marvel popcorn flick with an over-hyped Creator/RobertDowneyJr. ''IM'' fans hit back by saying that ''TDK'' was a [[DarkerAndEdgier brooding, pretentious]] movie that forgot it was supposed to be fun, and featured an over-hyped ([[DeadArtistsAreBetter and dead]]) Creator/HeathLedger. The pre-existing [[Creator/MarvelComics Marvel]] vs. [[Creator/DCComics DC]] rivalry probably didn't help. The rivalry flared again in 2012 when the ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' was released around the same time as ''Film/{{The Avengers\|2012}}''.
5	** ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' and ''Dark Knight'' fans have fought over whether or not one film deserved more Oscars than the other (mentioned more in depth below).
6	** Another ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'' rivalry has sparked with fans of the Burton directed ''ComicBook/{{Batman}}'' movies. Particularly over whether Creator/JackNicholson or Creator/HeathLedger is better as ComicBook/TheJoker (then there are those who like [[Series/Batman1966 Caesar Romero]], clown-whited-out mustache and all).
7	*** There's also a great feud between fans of Creator/MarkHamill's Joker from the Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse and fans of Creator/HeathLedger's Joker.
8	*** Add ''Film/SuicideSquad2016'''s Creator/JaredLeto to the mix... or even worse, the ''Film/{{Joker\|2019}}'' by Joaquin Phoenix, who raises fiery debates in comparison to Ledger (ironic, given both actors were friends).
9	** Fans of trilogy also have a contentious relationship with fans of the [[Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse DCEU]] movies directed by Creator/ZackSnyder with Nolan's fans criticizing ''Film/ManOfSteel'' and ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' for trying too hard to emulate or one-up on dark tone of Nolan's movies at the expense of good storytelling.
10	* ''Film/DoctorStrangeInTheMultiverseOfMadness'' and ''Film/EverythingEverywhereAllAtOnce'' have one as both are sci-fi films about the multiverse with surreal visuals that came out the same year. Fans of the former film disdain this one for being a big-budget Marvel production that gets more attention and money than an original film they think is superior. This really got started when Creator/JamieLeeCurtis jokingly took a shot at ''Multiverse of Madness'' in an Instagram post. Some have even called the film the '''true''' ''Multiverse of Madness''.[[note]]It's worth noting that the rivalry is largely one sided. With much of the discourse coming from fans of the former. Fans of the latter, on the other hand, are much less heated in the debate. Either agreeing that [=EEAaO=] is a superior film or thinking that both films are good in their own ways.[[/note]]
11	* [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] fans and [[Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse DCEU]] fans because Marvel vs DC and things never change. It doesn't help that the franchises are (initially) as different as [[DarkerAndEdgier night]] and [[LighterAndSofter day]]. This is further exacerbated by the pettiness of creators on both franchises like Warner Bros. executives dimissing Thor as a B-List title or MCU stars Creator/ScarlettJohansson and Creator/MarkRuffalo openly dismissing the DCEU before the films are even released.
12	** The rivalry came to a head with ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' and ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''. It started when the two movies were scheduled to release on the same day until DC moved their movie one month earlier. Then the movies came out. [=BvS=] was lambasted by critics while ''Civil War'' was a critical hit with some ''Civil War'' reviews fueling the fire by snidely referring back to [=BvS=], using the movie as a platform to get in jabs at ''Dawn of Justice''. Some DC fans reacted by accusing Marvel of paying critics off and leaving fake reviews on Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB. This caused Marvel fans to respond by calling [=BvS=] overly pretentious.
13	** This rivalry is not just limited to the movies. Creator/AnthonyMackie did not help matters in 2016 when he said of ''Dawn of Justice'' going up against ''Civil War'', "Bitches step up to get knocked down". This led to more than quite a few DCEU fans gloating five years later that they "got their revenge" in the "rematch" against ''Civil War'' when ''Film/ZackSnydersJusticeLeague'' was released the day before ''Series/TheFalconAndTheWinterSoldier'' and got more downloads and views than the latter.
14	** ''Film/{{Captain Marvel\|2019}}'' fans have one with ''Film/{{Wonder Woman\|2017}}'' fans. Despite the MCU having a 5 year headstart, it was the DCEU that released the first acclaimed female-led superhero movie with ''Wonder Woman'', which was hailed by critics and audiences as a landmark in female representation and filmmaking. Subsequently, some MCU fans wished that it was their film that was released first and were bitter how ''Wonder Woman'' stole ''Captain Marvel'' 's thunder while also setting up a high standard that their movie will be judged against, unfairly or not. Conversely, some DCEU fans are concerned that the success of the MCU movie may lead to Captain Marvel displacing Wonder Woman as ''the'' iconic female superhero, especially given how Diana preceded Carol in the comics by over 27 years and ''Wonder Woman'' was a morale boost to the DCEU. That said, the cast and crew of both movies have a cordial relationship with ''Wonder Woman'' director Patty Jenkins expressing enthusiasm for Marvel's superheroine movie and ''Captain Marvel'' star Brie Larson even admitting to be a big Wonder Woman fangirl growing up.
15	** In a carryover from the comics community, some ''[[Film/Shazam2019 SHAZAM!]]'' fans are unhappy that Carol Danvers will be claiming the name "Captain Marvel", which was Billy Batson's original name and the one he had for decades before the appearance of Carol Danvers. It doesn't help matters that a past DC lawsuit against Billy's original creators, Fawcett Comics, lead to the Captain Marvel name falling into the public domain and getting claimed by Marvel, effectively forcing DC to change Billy's name to Shazam in 2011. That said, like the case with ''Wonder Woman'', the cast and crew of the movies have been largely supportive of each other, especially since the films' respective stars Zachary Levi and Brie Larson are good friends in real life.
16	* Even within the Marvel Cinematic Universe, fans of different movies and characters [[BrokenBase fight with each other]] over their merits. Notably, some Captain America and Spider-Man fans complain about Iron Man for his WolverinePublicity and accused the character of [[SpotlightStealingSquad overshadowing other superheroes]] since he became a major supporting character in both ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' and ''Film/SpiderManHomecoming''. Black Widow fans are jealous about how Captain Marvel got [[Film/CaptainMarvel2019 her own solo movie]] first even though Widow had been in the MCU longer. Some Black Panther and Captain Marvel fans were also unhappy how their movies were delayed so that Spider-Man may be included into the MCU with ''Film/SpiderManHomecoming''. However, since ''Film/{{Black Panther\|2018}}'' was released in [[MeaningfulReleaseDate Black History Month]] and surpassed ''Homecoming'' financially, fans have (mostly) dropped their gripes and animosity. Even now, the ''Homecoming'' vs ''Black Panther'' rivalry is more of civil debate about whether Toomes from ''Homecoming'' or Killmonger from ''Black Panther'' is the better villain.
17	* There was a one-sided rivalry between ''Film/AlitaBattleAngel'' and ''Film/{{Captain Marvel\|2019}}'' fans. While some simply see ''Alita'' as more visually-interesting and original, there's a strange case in that the rivalry is less down to the ''Alita'' fandom criticizing ''Captain Marvel'' and more a group of viewers using ''Alita'' as an outlet to attack ''Captain Marvel''. Following ''Captain Marvel'' lead Creator/BrieLarson making certain political statements, some of Larson's critics want to support ''Alita'' at the expense of the Marvel film as a way of protesting her without coming off as misogynistic. [[FriendlyFandoms Conversely]], a number of ''Captain Marvel'' fans, who are mindful of such sentiments, actually encourage people to support ''Alita'' since it would lead to more female-led movies with diverse casts and crews.
18	* ''Film/ManOfSteel'' fans vs. fans of the Creator/RichardDonner[=/=]Creator/ChristopherReeve Superman movies. The first side is considered a wild pack of ungrateful "highbrows", the other a beehive full of bitter Methuselahs. Of course, plenty of fans like both, but that doesn't matter to the fans engaged in the rivalry.
19	* ''Film/DiaryOfTheDead'' fans vs. ''Film/TheZombieDiaries'' fans. Ironic since the latter is/was Romero fans.
20	* ''Film/DieHard'' has developed rivalries with (other) Christmas films--and, more specifically, Christmas-themed action films--due to the MemeticMutation around its setting of being in Los Angeles during Christmas. Some people claim, with varying levels of seriousness, that it's the greatest Christmas film ever made, even though it was actually released during the summer of 1988.
21	* The success of the ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' movies comparable to many "boy-friendly" franchises has essentially created a battle of the sexes.
22	** ''Film/ThirtyDaysOfNight'' fans and fans of the director David Slade were at odds with ''Twilight'' fans because he directed ''The Twilight Saga: Eclipse''. ''Twilight'' fans worried he he was going to ruin it, while Slade fans believed he would finally make the franchise worth the hype. And there's also a BrokenBase regarding the fact that Slade chose to direct ''Eclipse'' when he said he didn't even want to touch the franchise.
23	* To a certain extent, ''Film/StarTrek2009'' versus ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' fans, due to the latter taking a lot of attention at the 2010 Oscars fans feel was stolen away from ''Trek''. This is mainly the younger fans that ''Star Trek'' gained, with its hipper, attractive cast and brisker storytelling, as opposed to Cameron's much longer story and more alien world. And that's before we toss in ''Avatar'''s (ultimately lost) rivalry with ''Film/TheHurtLocker'' at the Oscars.
24	** ...which was filmed by Cameron's ex wife, arguably a huge component in why it won.
25	** For that matter, fans of the [[FanNickname J.J. Verse]] vs. fans of the classic ''Trek'' series. Many of the latter are resentful of the reboot nature of the former, having desired a continuation of the storyline past the [[Series/STarTrekDeepSpaceNine Dominion War]]. They also often accuse the reboot franchise of simply rehashing the previous films (''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'' using Khan as the main villain certainly didn't help) rather than doing anything new. Fans of the former frequently cite the slicker visual look and argue the reboot provides a fresh direction for a long-running franchise.
26	* Going back to the 1950s, there's always been critical contention over who was the greatest Japanese film director at the time: Kenji Mizoguchi or Creator/AkiraKurosawa. Later on, Yasujiro Ozu became known outside of Japan and put a new spin on the debate.
27	** So the question is, 'Is Kurosawa, Mizoguchi, or Ozu the greatest Japanese film maker?' [[MathematiciansAnswer Yes.]]
28	* ''Film/District9'' fans and ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' fans for a variety of reasons. For one, D9 fans prefer the gritty, dark world of South Africa to the colorful, optimistic world of Pandora and think ''Avatar'' stole ''District's'' thunder at awards shows at the end of the year. Avatar fans counter that it is more realistic in its take on humanity, more emotionally involving, and better produced than D9.
29	** Interestingly, both movies could be seen as a DarkerAndEdgier or LighterAndSofter take on the other, respectively, which probably fuels the rivalry. (and much overanalysis by film nerds)
30	* Fans of Film/TheThreeStooges and the Creator/MarxBrothers have been somewhat at odds for decades, though most people have agreed to like them both. Same goes for Creator/LaurelAndHardy and Creator/CharlieChaplin versus either of the aforementioned comedy acts, or each other.
31	** Laurel and Hardy also had an intergenerational rivalry with Creator/AbbottAndCostello, as typified in the film ''Film/StanAndOllie'', where Laurel leaves a film producer's office with their last chance for a new film fallen through, only to pass an advertisement for ''Abbott and Costello go to Mars'' and Laurel is chagrined at how their younger rivals are still going strong in film.
32	** Speaking of Chaplin, fans of Creator/BusterKeaton have been at odds with Chaplin fans since the Silent Era, with a lot of Keaton fans seeing Chaplin as over-rated with his over-maudlin attempts at drama because his fame overshadows Keaton, who had a more ironic modern sense of humor. Chaplin fans respond that their hero was a great innovator who was more modern in his own way considering he very rarely indulged in {{Blackface}} and other racial humor that Keaton had no compunction against using[[note]]For instance, Chaplin usually only went there when he was in a creative drought in what he later considered some of his weakest films like ''A Day's Pleasure''[[/note]].
33	* Several Youtube comment fights broke out between Creator/ChristopherNolan fanboys and Creator/JamesCameron fanboys on almost every ''Film/{{Inception}}'' trailer in the weeks running up to the release. This rivalry probably started when ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' was, in the eyes of many, [[AwardSnub snubbed for an Oscar nomination,]] but ''Avatar'' was nominated the following year despite also belonging to a usually neglected genre and earned more money, and tempers boiled over when Inception hype reached fever pitch.
34	** And just like ''Avatar'' and ''The Hurt Locker'' above, ''Inception'' fans also hold a grudge against ''Film/TheKingsSpeech'' following the 2011 Oscars.
35	** A few vocal ''Inception'' fans also have a grudge with Music/NineInchNails fans; they feel that ''The Social Network'' shouldn't have won the Oscar for best soundtrack because "it's just 4 notes on the piano", despite many people being fans of ''Inception'', ''Film/TheSocialNetwork'' and Music/NineInchNails
36	* ''Franchise/{{Godzilla}}'' fans, mostly between fans of the Japanese movies vs. the [[Film/{{Godzilla 1998}} American remake]], you have to praise one and hate the other because [[FandomHeresy you cannot like both]].
37	** To a lesser extent Showa Era Godzilla (1954-1975) fans vs. Heisei Era Godzilla (1984-1995) fans. At rare times both types of fans will go after Millennium Era Godzilla (1999-2004) fans, mostly the ones that liked ''Film/GodzillaFinalWars'' due to its poor box office reception and lackluster reviews.
38	** Godzilla vs. Film/{{Gamera}}, sometimes mixing in Clover from ''Film/{{Cloverfield}}''. Godzilla fans often [[TrueArtIsAngsty boast about how much darker]] [[QualityByPopularVote and financially successful]] their movies are while Gamera fans boast that their 90s movies got more high quality reviews than most of Godzilla's movies.
39	** Fans that often argue toward one another on how ''[[Film/AllMonstersAttack Godzilla's Revenge]]'', ''Film/GodzillaVsSpaceGodzilla'', [[Film/{{Godzilla 1998}} the 1998 American remake]], or ''Film/GodzillaFinalWars'' as the worst Godzilla movie ever for various reasons all over the place including over used stock footage (''Revenge''), bad music (''Space Godzilla''), adaption rape (remake and ''Final Wars''), lackluster action (''Revenge'' and ''Final Wars''), ripping off ideas from other movies (remake and ''Final Wars''), bland story and/or characters (all of them), bad dubbing even worse than usual (''Revenge'' and ''Space Godzilla''), [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks bad updated appearances]] or the monsters themselves be them new or old (''Revenge'', remake, and ''Final Wars'').
40	* ''Film/{{Godzilla 2014}}'':.
41	** A minor one with ''Film/ManOfSteel'', with jokes about how Godzilla's battles with the [=MUTOs=] apparently caused less property damage than Superman's battle with Zod.
42	** There's one with ''Film/PacificRim'' revolving around debates over which stylistic approach is best for a ''{{Kaiju}}'' film, the fantastical and lighthearted one for ''Pacific Rim'' or the realistic and dark one for ''Godzilla''. Although there's a sizeable portion of people -including Del Toro himself- who'd love to see a crossover.
43	*** The Godzilla fanbase in general is either friendly with ''Pacific Rim'' fans and united in their love of kaiju, or antagonistic towards them because Godzilla is a genuine Japanese kaiju property, not an imitation, and would so totally own all the robots and creatures in that film. It didn't help that Godzilla had sequels and spin-offs immediately greenlit after its box office debut while ''Pacific Rim'''s sequel lingered in development hell until it was finally announced in 2016.
44	* Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse has many other rivals that aren't named Marvel.
45	** Currently, there is a intra-franchise rivalry between Creator/{{Zack Snyder}}'s fans and fans of the other directors involved in the DCEU. When Creator/PattyJenkins's ''Film/{{Wonder Woman\|2017}}'' was released in 2017, it became the most critically and financially[[note]]Although its worldwide gross is less than that of ''Batman v Superman'', its higher domestic gross and lower budget means that it generated a ''much'' higher profit margin.[[/note]] successful DCEU movie up to that time, while also garnering praise from Creator/FrankMiller, Creator/RichardDonner, and Creator/ChristopherNolan. Likewise, Creator/JamesWan's ''Film/{{Aquaman\|2018}}'' received fairly positive reviews while becoming the first DCEU movie to gross over a billion dollars worldwide despite starring a lesser-known hero who is regarded by the public as a JokeCharacter. However, some fans of Zack Snyder, who directed ''Man of Steel'' and ''Batman v. Superman'', have accused ''Wonder Woman'' and ''Aquaman'' of "selling out" for abandoning the DarkerAndEdgier tone of previous DCEU films. This in turn has led to some ''Wonder Woman'' and ''Aquaman'' fans pointing out that a dark tone doesn't automatically result in a good film and that Jenkins and Wan deliberately choose to make their movies more light-hearted by their own volition. On top of everything, although Snyder personally prefers making his movies dark and gritty, he openly supported the lighter tone that the individual filmmakers decided on.
46	** On a separate note, several Superman fans were riled when ''Film/Shazam2019'' director David Sandberg joked how Shazam could kick the DCEU!Superman's ass and mocked the [[NeverLiveItDown infamous]] "Save Martha!" scene from ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. Sandberg had to clarify that he was being facetious but some DCEU fans [[PoesLaw took his comments at face value]].[[note]]Given how the character was created as a Superman knockoff by Fawcett comics, there are bound to be flame wars about who is the better hero regardless of the creative minds involved in these movies.[[/note]] The rivalry only heated up as not only did ''SHAZAM!'' became more critically acclaimed than the DCEU movies starring Superman, but many consider Shazam to be a modernized Superman done right since Billy Batson has sympathetic reason for his glumness and convincingly evolves into an idealistic hero.
47	** Even though both properties are co-produced and distributed by Warner Bros., fans of [=DCEU=] and Film/{{Monsterverse}} (the American shared universe centered around Godzilla and other Kaiju) really don't get along. So far, the Monsterverse films have received more critical praise than the first three DCEU movies with some commentators claiming that the Monsterverse is better at setting up a cinematic universe than the DCEU. Not helping matters is that some Monsterverse fans have spoofed the more controversial scenes in the DCEU like [[spoiler:Superman killing Zod in ''Film/ManOfSteel'']] and "Save Martha!" scene in ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' using goofy Godzilla memes like [[http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1077033-godzilla these]] [[http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1294277-godzilla ones]].
48	* ''Franchise/{{Ghostbusters}}'' has a rivalry which crosses multiple media: Fans of Columbia's franchise call themselves "Ghostheads," and fans of [[WesternAnimation/FilmationsGhostbusters Filmation's franchise]] (the one with the gorilla) call themselves "Go-ers." These days, it's less of a rivalry and more of an uneasy alliance.
49	* One of the nastiest: ''Film/TheIllusionist2006'' vs. ''Film/ThePrestige''. Be careful who you discuss either of these movies with. The argument might lead to IQ dissing. Seriously though, it's impossible to find someone who's a fan of both, even though both movies deal with magicians and revenge plots... They just appeal to different folks. Loving one means hating the other. In fact, your love for one is pretty much ''defined'' by how much you hate the other. People pick sides based on which one they saw first, which one they saw in the cinema, Bale/Norton affection, Jackman/Rufus affection, belief that if it has Caine/Giamatti in it, it must be epic... But you ''have'' to pick a side.
50	* A minor and friendlier rivalry occurred among the filmmakers and fans of the ''Film/XMenFilmSeries'' and ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'' since both series kick-started the return of comic book movies for the new millennium with their second acts often being cited as some of the best superhero flicks ever made.
51	* As with Creator/{{Sony}}'s ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderManSeries'', many fans of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse criticize ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' just for existing and maintaining {{Creator/FOX}}'s hold on the X-Men film rights, since they wish the rights would go to Marvel Studios. All the more since Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, two characters synonymous with both the Avengers and the X-Men, were in something a legal grey area (and appeared in both franchises). And then there are the accusations of Marvel trying to undermine Fox's success by downplaying its ''ComicBook/XMen'' marketing in the comics and cancelling its ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' titles, while playing up lesser-known teams and characters such as the ComicBook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy and Inhumans that will appear in its upcoming movies.[[note]]This is something it ''isn't'' doing with ComicBook/SpiderMan, for obvious reasons, but Marvel is known to be on better terms with Sony than with Fox as well.[[/note]] Given that most of these franchise's box office draw comes from movie goers and not comic fans, however, one has to wonder how people got this assumption.
52	** Note that this MCU rivalry is different for ''X-Men'' than for ''The Amazing Spider-Man'' (which has a FandomRivalry with ''DOFP'' in its own right). Due to ''DOFP'''s very positive reception, the rivalry is less "they're turning the series into a FranchiseZombie [[AshCanCopy just to hold on to the rights]]"[[note]]A criticism of ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2'' by [[BrokenBase some fans]][[/note]] and more "which Marvel movie series/universe is better". While MCU fans claim that the X-Men would benefit from their inclusion in the MCU since it would allow for crossovers and more faithful adaptations, X-Men fans argue out that the X-Men work better in their own cinematic continuity because the "oppressed minority" metaphor would be undermined by the presence of similar superhumans who aren't persecuted.
53	** Although the Disney-Fox merger initially seemed to quell the rivalry, in many ways it actually intensified the rivalry with concerns that the X-Men will be cheapened by their inclusion in the MCU. Given how the MCU movies are massively budgeted tentpole movies aimed at children and designed to sell merchandise, some X-Men fans worry that there won't be any more smaller, R-rated X-Men movies made under the MCU banner. Not helping matters is that several of Fox's planned X-Men projects like future movies and a Deadpool animated series were canned in response to the merger.
54	** ''Film/Deadpool2016'', however, seems to have avoided much of the hate, likely due to MCU fans accepting the fact that Disney would never make an R-rated Deadpool movie with the level of sex and violence that Fox allowed.
55	** ''Film/{{Logan}}'' was also able to avoid hatred from MCU fans due to its much more intense depiction of Wolverine with a deep R-rating. However, it did spawn a (mostly) friendly rivalry between ''Logan'' fans and ''Deadpool'' fans due to the two films' radically different tones.
56	** With regards to the Fantastic Four, MCU fans were heavily critical of ''Film/FantasticFour2015'' simply for existing, which wasn't helped by the suspicious timing (the reboot of the FF film franchise was announced in 2009 but made no progress until 2014, which was around the same time the rights to the team would've reverted back to Marvel). Fans of the Fantastic Four, meanwhile, were sour against MCU fans in turn and accused Marvel of trying to undermine the movie's success (no official merchandise was released for promotion) and the team itself due to the cancellation of its ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' titles (although that was caused more by bad sales than anything else). It was ultimately subverted when the movie came out after a deeply and well-publicized TroubledProduction to scathing reviews and was a BoxOfficeBomb, making many FF fans agree that a film franchise of Marvel's First Family would indeed be better handled under Marvel Studios.
57	* ''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2014'' with ''Film/{{Guardians of the Galaxy\|2014}}''. They were released a week apart from each other, and they're both based on comic books with an anthropomorphic animal as one of the main characters. Didn't help that the film managed to steal the number 1 spot from them at the box office (although ''Guardians'' had a higher opening). Even more, ''Guardians'' actually took back the number 1 spot sometime afterward.
58	* ''Franchise/StarWars'' fans vs. fans of the UsefulNotes/NewHollywood[=/=]"Auteur Era." This is because many New Hollywood fans see the release and overwhelming success of ''Film/ANewHope'' as the beginning of a shift in the film industry away from artsy, director-driven films and toward "big, loud, dumb" {{Summer Blockbuster}}s. [[{{Misblamed}} In reality, there were many other reasons for the New Hollywood's decline]], including the fact that [[ProtectionFromEditors its aforementioned director-led nature]] led to some [[PrimaDonnaDirector truly gargantuan egos]] springing up.
59	* ''Franchise/StarWars'' fandom, and especially ''Film/StarWarsTheLastJedi'' fans, have a bone to pick with fans of superhero movies largely over ideas of aestheticism, theme and entertainment value.
60	** ''The Last Jedi'' has one with both ''Film/{{Wonder Woman\|2017}}'' and ''Film/{{Black Panther\|2018}}''. Although the films are critical and commercial hits, while also having non-{{White Male Lead}}s, the two superhero movies didn't experience as much vitriolic backlash as ''The Last Jedi''. This in turn has led to the fanbases arguing about which film is better at representing minorities while also providing escapist entertainment. Not helping matters is that some of ''The Last Jedi'''s more vocal detractors have praised ''Wonder Woman'' and ''Black Panther'' to deflect accusations of bigotry while also using the success of the two superhero movies to highlight everything they disliked about ''The Last Jedi''.
61	** In turn, ''Star Wars'' fans has a rivalry with fans of superhero movies, especially the MCU. The Sequel Trilogy and anthology ''Star Wars'' movies have garnered a more splintered fanbase compared to the MCU and, to a lesser extent, the DCEU. This led ''Star Wars'' fans to claim that superhero movies play it too safe and have spoiled audiences into becoming very hostile to deconstructions and genre-critiquing in blockbusters. Superhero fans, however, pointed out that their movies can be as introspective and thought-provoking and that the ''Star Wars'' franchise only has itself to blame for its backlash. It doesn't help that many superhero movies released from 2017 to 2018 have many similarities to ''The Last Jedi'' [[note]]Whether it's having an escapist hero growing into a jaded mentor (''Film/{{Logan}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse''), dealing with the past (''Film/ThorRagnarok'' and ''Film/{{Black Panther\|2018}}''), or starring non-{{White Male Lead}} heroes (''Black Panther'', ''Into the Spider-Verse'', ''Film/{{Wonder Woman\|2017}}'', and ''Film/{{Aquaman\|2018}}'')[[/note]] but didn't receive as much in the way of fan backlash.
62	*** It got cranked up when ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' and ''Film/AvengersEndgame'' came out. A stream of articles and videos, some by people who had previously defended ''The Last Jedi'', came out in the wake of ''Infinity War'' claiming that the Marvel movie had been able to do what ''Last Jedi'' had wanted to do but better and without the ''Star Wars'' film's pitfalls. Common points were that ''Infinity War'' handled subverting audience expectations better, had the heroes make mistakes without seeming stupid, and was able to keep its plot more focused despite having even more main characters. ''Last Jedi'' fans were less than thrilled and made their own videos counting these points and criticizing ''Infinity War,'' often making jabs at how Thanos's plan makes no sense. The rivalry was ignited again, when the respective grand finales ''Endgame'' and ''The Rise of Skywalker'' came out in the same year. While ''Endgame'' received superior critical reception, some ''Star Wars'' criticized Thor's portrayal in ''Endgame'' as a more shallow imitation of Luke's portrayal in ''The Last Jedi''. The fact that ''Endgame'' would go on to defeat ''The Rise of Skywalker'' in overall box office numbers probably didn't help.
63	* In some cases, the ''Film/{{Carry On\|Series}}'' film series vs ''Creator/MontyPython'', mostly due to the fact that ''Monty Python'' is commonly associated with the Creator/{{BBC}} and ''Carry On'' is often distributed on Creator/{{ITV}} (both dueling TV stations in themselves). Unintentionally, the fact that the ''Monty Python'' series hasn't been shown on television for years in Britain, yet ''Carry On'' occasionally gets an appearance a couple times a year, adds a bit of fuel to the rivalry pot.
64	* Some fans of ''Film/TheBreakfastClub'' have a beef with those of ''Film/BackToTheFuture1'' for AwardSnub reasons: during the 1986 Academy Awards, Back To The Future was nominated for awards that Breakfast Club should have been nominated for (the most notable being Best Song).
65	* Some ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'' fans have a beef with ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderManSeries'' fans over which portrayal of Spider-Man was TruerToTheText and which one handled the characters better. Some fans of the former tend to criticize Andrew Garfield's portrayal and others calling him a ReplacementScrappy to Tobey Maguire's portrayal. Some fans of the latter tend to criticize Maguire's portrayal by feeling that he was whiny and had a lack of personality in addition to comparing his acting to a brick wall.
66	** The [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] interpretation of Spider-Man has only further divided fans over where each portrayal ranks. Interestingly, while The Amazing Spider-Man seems to have the least number of fans who consider it their favorite, it's also not often considered the worst. Most Spider-Man fans instead either consider the worst Tobey Maguire's for being outdated and corny, or Tom Holland's for being too sidelined by other MCU characters and reliant on Iron Man. This came to an end with ''Film/SpiderManNoWayHome'', as [[spoiler:the IntraFranchiseCrossover allowed all three Spideys time to shine]].
67	* While there's significant overlap in the fandoms, there's been some sniping between admirers of Creator/AlfredHitchcock and Creator/BrianDePalma. The Hitchcock side accuses De Palma of crossing the line from homage to [[FollowTheLeader outright ripoff]] of Hitchcock in his thrillers. The De Palma side argues that De Palma's references to Hitchcock are just part of a larger sophisticated sensibility in De Palma's work, and that De Palma's films were actually better than [[SeasonalRot Hitchcock's later films]].
68	* In April 2018, Creator/JamesCameron criticized superhero movies and said he hoped audiences would get tired of them soon. One year later, MCU fans took extra pleasure in seeing ''Film/AvengersEndgame'' overtake his box office records. This then resulted in backlash from the ''Film/{{Titanic\|1997}}'' and ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' fandoms.
69	** Cameron also incurred the wrath of DCEU fans with [[https://variety.com/2017/film/news/james-cameron-wonder-woman-praise-misguided-step-backwards-1202538440/ his remarks about Wonder Woman]].
70	* The long awaited sequel ''Film/AvatarTheWayOfWater'' grew rivalries with multiple movies.
71	** A particularly bitter one brewing even ''before'' the first trailer was released, between Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse fans and ''Avatar'' fans, with the rivalry blowing up after November 2022. It didn't help that many MCU fans remained antagonistic towards the franchise since ''Film/AvengersEndgame'' was able to overtake ''Avatar'' for the highest box office in history, only for the latter to retake the spot due to a rerelease two years later. Particular points of contention were CGI and visual effects, and story quality, with both sides criticizing the other's movies for their perceived lack of quality in either aspect. It doesn't help that ''The Way of the Water'' was released a month after ''Film/BlackPantherWakandaForever'', which also features extensive underwater scenes, or that ''The Way of Water'' quickly overtook the box office gross of every MCU film released in 2022 within just over a week of its release.
72	** Towards the end of 2022, there's been some growing rivalry between ''The Way of Water'' and ''Film/TopGunMaverick'' fans as well, what with both movies being major blockbuster long-awaited sequels to modern classics featuring older heroes now having to pave the way for the younger generation that are famous for their well-crafted choreography and special effects. The rivalry started brewing as ''The Way of Water'' broke ''Maverick'''s long-held title as the highest-grossing film of 2022, which is in part thanks to ''The Way of Water'' gaining a lot of viewership in China while ''Maverick'' did not (conversely, ''The Way of Water'' did not gain as much traction in the U.S. as ''Maverick'' did). A more tongue-in-cheek rivalry was also present when it was revealed that Creator/KateWinslet broke Creator/TomCruise's underwater breath-holding record during the filming of ''The Way of Water'', which she proudly made note of.
73	** Despite the two films having virtually nothing in common in terms of plot and characters, it started growing one with ''WesternAnimation/PussInBootsTheLastWish'' because of how closely they were in release. ''The Last Wish'' was lauded for its animation and storytelling and received higher critic and audience scores than ''The Way of the Water''. Puss in Boots fans consider that film to be an EvenBetterSequel that “nobody thought they needed” and dislike this film’s box office success, deriding it as a “sequel no one really wanted” not helped by the perception of the the original's lack of clear legacy. It’s mainly one-sided on ''Puss in Boots'' fans though, as most fans of ''The Way of Water'' either also like ''The Last Wish'' or couldn’t care less about the other film.
74	** Continuing from the first film is a small rivalry with fans of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', which began to flare up again when James Cameron revealed that the sequels will explore other Na'vi tribes that are associated with different elements. With the first sequel titled ''The Way of Water'', which deals with marine-based Na'vis that can be compared to the Water Tribe in ATLA, and the next sequel [[https://theplaylist.net/avatar-james-cameron-says-avatar-3-will-introduce-an-antagonistic-fire-based-navi-clan-called-the-ash-people-20230105/ rumored]] to deal with the "Ash People", a Na'vi clan associated heavily with fire that will serve a more antagonistic role than the other Na'vi clans we've seen before - just like the Fire Nation, ATLA fans couldn't help but notice how James Cameron's ''Avatar'' series seems to have more and more similarities to the animated series aside from the shared title to the point many are now expecting Avatar 4 to feature “Earth” Navi.
75	--->[[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlbXu1VaAAED8R3?format=jpg&name=large ... If part 3 is called "The Firebending masters, we riot"]]
76	** It started growing one with the sci-fi horror movie ''Film/{{M3gan}}'' due to it being one of the only major releases in January 2023. Many ''Avatar'' haters who aren't even that interested in the movie started paying money to see ''[=M3GAN=]'' in theaters purely out of spite. ''[=M3GAN=]'' having a higher critic score on Rotten Tomatoes certainly helped fuel the rivalry too.
77	* Among film buffs with an interest in nuclear war films, there's a huge divide between those who prefer ''Film/TheDayAfter'' and those who prefer its TransatlanticEquivalent, ''Film/{{Threads}}''. Fans of ''The Day After'' often dismiss ''Threads'' as excessively bleak and feel that the {{Bowdleri\|se}}zation in the US film actually gave enough hope in it to spur a push towards nuclear disarmament, while fans of ''Threads'' criticize ''The Day After'' as too unrealistic and praise the UK film for its greater research. Then there's a third camp that appreciates both films and views the rivalry as a huge case of MisaimedFandom, given that the movies were never meant to be compared to one another like that.

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