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| 2 | '''Neighborhood 12358W''' ([[Characters/TheGoodPlaceMichael Michael]]) | [[Characters/TheGoodPlaceAfterlife The Afterlife]] | [[Characters/TheGoodPlaceEarth Earth]]-]]]]] |
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| 4 | '''WARNING! Only spoilers for Season 4 are marked! Beware of major spoilers!''' |
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| 8 | !Neighborhood 12358W/Team Cockroach/The Soul Squad |
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| 10 | !!!Humans |
| 11 | [[folder:In General]] |
| 12 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/goodplacehumans.jpg]] |
| 13 | [[caption-width-right:350:From L-R: Tahani, Eleanor, Jason, Chidi]] |
| 14 | * AbusiveParents: Eleanor's and Tahani's were directly abusive. Jason's parents were criminals who encouraged unethical and/or criminal behavior. Chidi's parents are the exception, except they didn't really do much to discourage his indecisiveness, which was evident ever since he was a child. |
| 15 | * AesopAmnesia: Justified; as Chidi says in "Dance Dance Resolution", they're being tortured but they can't learn from their mistakes because their memories keep getting wiped. It's finally averted in the Season 3 finale where Chidi sacrifices his memories to keep the new neighborhood experiment intact, but everyone else remembers their friendship. |
| 16 | * AscendedToAHigherPlaneOfExistence: [[spoiler:Jason, Chidi, and Eleanor all experience this after they walk through the Last Door in the SeriesFinale, with them losing their conscious identities as themselves and becoming one with creation itself. In other words, their waves [[{{Reincarnation}} return]] to [[TheLifestream the ocean]].]] |
| 17 | * BecomingTheMask: An odd case; by the end of the series, their CharacterDevelopment has caused them to all be genuinely deserving of the Good Place and be the people who they (both others and themselves) were previously thought to be in terms of making them worthy of the Good Place. |
| 18 | ** In Michael's Fake Good Place Experiment, the "Real" Eleanor was supposedly a human rights lawyer and environmentalist. After being brought BackFromTheDead, Eleanor became an avid environmentalist for about six months, and was [[spoiler:ultimately able to successfully debate the Judge and convince her to not simply wipe out humanity and help them create a newer and more ethical afterlife system]]. |
| 19 | ** Tahani thought of herself as a great philanthropist who helped countless people out of the goodness of her heart, but in reality she was SecretlySelfish. [[spoiler:In the series finale, Michael helps her become an Architect, where she's able to peacefully dedicate the rest of eternity to helping people become the best versions of themselves and deserve entrance to the Good Place]]. |
| 20 | ** Jason was given the fake identity of the Buddhist monk "Jianyu Li". Not only does Jason start to become a wiser person (even learning how to actually meditate to calm down), but he spends [[spoiler:[[TimeAbyss literal millennia]] living a simple monk-like life of solitude and contemplation in the woods while waiting by the Final Door to give Janet a necklace he'd made her. [[ComicallyMissingThePoint He doesn’t realize the significance of it]], but Janet does]]. |
| 21 | ** Chidi viewed himself as a clever philosopher who was able to live the most ethical life possible ([[RunningGag almond milk notwithstanding]]). Not only does he become less of a NervousWreck and gain better control over his neuroses, but [[spoiler:he becomes the primary designer behind a new afterlife system that completely exorcises eternal punishment and replaces it with constructive therapy]]. |
| 22 | ** There's also Michael, who goes from being a Bad Place Architect in charge of a Fake Good Place with a low opinion on humanity to first an AscendedDemon who fights against the entire corrupt afterlife system to [[spoiler:the new "owner" of the entire bonafide-Good Place after he and his friends finally gain entrance to it. Then he gets his fondest wish and becomes a human]]. |
| 23 | * BettyAndVeronica: Multiple examples given the amount of love triangles present in the earlier seasons of the show. |
| 24 | ** Eleanor is the openly selfish Veronica to Tahani's more dignified, presentable Betty and Chidi's Archie. [[spoiler:Subverted when it's implied that Chidi never actually had feelings for Tahani, and that his kindness was merely confused with romantic intent.]] |
| 25 | ** As of Season 2 and onwards, Janet is the cute, inexperienced Betty to Tahani's Veronica (and, of course, Jason's Archie). |
| 26 | * CharacterDevelopment: An interesting case where the development gets erased, redone, and explored down a different path. But despite all that Michael does in Season 2 to keep them apart and keep them static, the four humans manage to encounter each other and motivate each other with their friendship. |
| 27 | * CosmicPlaything: Quite literally; it's revealed that Michael specifically selected these four humans to torture each other with their petty flaws and insecurities in such a subtle way as to make them think they're in the Good Place when they're not. However, their banding together drives him to try over and over again for three hundred years in Earth time to keep them from realizing the truth until he calls for a truce in Season 2. |
| 28 | * CruelAndUnusualDeath: While they're all still successfully PlayedForLaughs, as noted below each of the Soul Squad's deaths on Earth were pretty horrific: |
| 29 | ** Eleanor: Was shoved by a runaway row of shopping carts out into a busy street and then got hit by a truck. |
| 30 | ** Chidi: Had his skull broken by the air conditioner unit he improperly installed in a friend's windowsill. |
| 31 | ** Tahani: Lassoed a golden statue of her younger sister and inadvertently brought it down right on top of herself, crushing her. |
| 32 | ** Jason: Suffocated to death inside of a safe. |
| 33 | * DiedHappilyEverAfter: [[spoiler:Jason, Chidi, and Eleanor eventually do this at the end by walking through the Last Door, not only giving themselves closure and happiness but putting more "Good" into the universe. Tahani was the only one who decides to stay and apply herself to other things, but she already achieved her happy state and she knows this is still an option if she feels she's completed that, too.]] |
| 34 | * FatalFlaw: Each character has one (Eleanor with her [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]], Chidi with his [[TheDitherer indecisiveness]], Tahani with her [[AttentionWhore lust for attention]], and Jason with his [[TooDumbToLive impulsivity]]) and most of these flaws either literally got them killed, or put them in the position where they would be killed. |
| 35 | * TheFellowshipHasEnded: [[spoiler:In a much more bittersweet manner than typical for the trope, this is ultimately what happens to the group. Jason, Chidi and Eleanor all find themselves at peace with the time they spent existing and go through the Final Door. While Tahani and Janet remain in the afterlife (and will be eventually reunited with the now-human Michael), their time as a group has effectively come to an end.]] |
| 36 | * {{Flanderization}}: It hits Tahani first, but eventually seeps into Eleanor and Jason late in Season 3. Michael, Chidi, and Janet largely stick to real CharacterDevelopment, and in fairness, they all do still greatly evolve over the course of the whole series. |
| 37 | ** Tahani's ability to utter a sentence that doesn't include a celebrity's name starts failing her late in Season 2. |
| 38 | ** Jason goes up and down between a CloudCuckooLander and TooDumbToLive. |
| 39 | * {{Foil}}: Invoked. The reason they were brought together in the first place was so that they could counter each other to the point of torture. In addition to making themselves all feel unstable as they believed their "soulmate" wasn't fully right for them, they were conceived as being tailored to deny each other the thing they needed most: effective advice for growth (Eleanor), decisiveness and closure (Chidi), supportive attention (Tahani), and constructive but loose structure (Jason). It failed because they balanced out each other to the point of helping each other through their worst faults, and ''did'' give each other what they needed. By the fourth season they had come to understand their primary flaws and [[CharacterDevelopment was able to move past them]]. |
| 40 | ** Eleanor: Her core trait was indifference |
| 41 | *** Was meant to make Chidi face an eternal ethical dilemma, that for all his study, he's unable to teach someone who won't grow to be better; to make Tahani feel overshadowed again in death as she was in life, by being effortlessly bombastic as the center of attention for everyone; and make Jason feel controlled, by keeping him from being free to express himself, lest he get them all sent to the Bad Place. |
| 42 | *** Instead, she learned ethics from Chidi and helped him teach others, and was his stable, decisive partner; she first felt inadequate compared to ''Tahani'', and then included Tahani as a friend and played to her strengths; and she bonded with Jason as a friend who understands him and encourages ''some'' of his behavior. |
| 43 | ** Chidi: His core trait was indecisiveness |
| 44 | *** Was meant to make Eleanor feel constantly criticized and face that she's unable to improve; make Tahani feel isolated by making her feel AllLoveIsUnrequited; and make Jason feel angry in being around an educated, uptight professional that Jason could never be. |
| 45 | *** Instead, he made Eleanor a better person and came to love her; he loved Tahani as a true friend, without demanding or expecting anything more from her; and helped Jason learn a reasonable level of restraint and ethical wisdom. |
| 46 | ** Tahani: Her core trait was attention seeking |
| 47 | *** Was meant to make Eleanor feel insecure and inadequate in attractiveness and accomplishment; make Chidi feel more stressed as a third love option to (never) choose from, in addition to Eleanor and "Real" Eleanor; and make Jason feel paranoid as her outgoing nature will never let him express his own. |
| 48 | *** Instead, she became Eleanor's friend despite their differences; gave Chidi an out on decisions by taking her love life into her own hands, and helping them both know what true love is, so that he could find it with Eleanor and she could find it in herself; and helps Jason learn constructive expression so he can be a better relationship partner to Janet. |
| 49 | ** Jason: His core trait was impulsiveness |
| 50 | *** Was meant to make Eleanor feel dependent on someone else to not get them all ruined; make Chidi feel stressed as his worst nightmare (stupid and impulsive); and make Tahani feel unloved by never talking to her (under the Jianyu persona), and distant by having constant other focuses, with his lack of attention. |
| 51 | *** Instead, he finds and becomes a friend Eleanor could bond with under a similar experience; was the biggest help to Chidi in making him more decisive and secure in his relationships; and listened to Tahani under both of his personas, and actually supported and encouraged her. |
| 52 | ** Chidi and Tahani deserve special mention, as they both ending up in the Bad Place for pretty much the opposite reasons and results; Tahani did good things (her charity work) for bad reasons (she was SecretlySelfish and wanted to get one over on [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter her sister]]), and Chidi did bad things (he made everyone around him miserable due to constantly acting as TheDitherer) for good reasons (he tried to live as ethical and considerate of a life as possible while unlocking the mysteries of the universe). |
| 53 | * GenderEqualEnsemble: The group consists of two men and two women. |
| 54 | ** The original subcategories (the "bad" people who didn't belong and the "good" people who thought they did) were also evenly split, consisting of one man and one woman. |
| 55 | * HeWhoFightsMonsters: A downplayed example. The four humans spend the first two seasons manipulated by Michael in the fake Good Place, and Eleanor in particular is upset about what was erased. They were also less than happy in Season 3 on learning that a reformed demon was manipulating them to become good only to get them condemned by accident. As part of the new experiment, they have to lie to Simone, John and Brent in the same way that they themselves were manipulated, albeit without torturing them the way Michael did. Chidi realizes he can't keep the experiment going while Simone is there, even if she doesn't remember him, and volunteers to wipe his memories so he doesn't sabotage it. [[spoiler:Eleanor realizes that she nearly crosses the line when motivating Chidi to become a better person by having Jason lie to him about not belonging]]. |
| 56 | * HoistByTheirOwnPetard: Two out of four of them died directly due to their own actions. |
| 57 | ** Tahani died trying to bring down Kamilah's statue when her sister insulted her, after sneaking in and telling off Kamilah for not inviting her. |
| 58 | ** Jason suffocated to death inside a safe he went into to try to rob a restaurant. |
| 59 | * HumansAreSpecial: It's made clear, again and again, that they're the ones who can really change things for the better, both in life and in death, rather than anyone in the CelestialBureaucracy because of how flawed, complicated, and unpredictable humans are. The system may be made to judge humanity, but it eventually becomes clear that none of the angels or demons really ''understand'' humanity. Michael is the exception, but only after he befriends the main four, and even then, he struggles with the nuances. |
| 60 | * InnocentlyInsensitive: All of them, to varying degrees of innocent and insensitive. Eleanor was insensitive to everyone but was conditioned since childhood to be that way as a defense mechanism, Chidi was insensitive to others' feelings and pain induced by his logical indecisiveness, Tahani was insensitive to how her standing and success motivated by feeling inferior could make others feel inferior, and Jason was insensitively impulsive to the detriment of everyone around him, but too sweet and adaptable to notice. |
| 61 | * InSpiteOfANail: As Michael smugly tells Trevor in Season 3, no matter what Michael or anyone does, the team's friendship manages to overcome their flaws gradually over time. |
| 62 | * InterclassFriendship: Eleanor, who comes from an American LowerClassLout family, and Tahani, who is a glamorous British socialite, get off to a rough start in their relationship due to their many differences, including class differences, but eventually become close VitriolicBestBuds. Tahani even likens their friendship to another Interclass Friendship in one of her favorite shows, ''[[ShowWithinAShow Deirdre and Margaret]]''. |
| 63 | * LockingMacgyverInTheStoreCupboard: Michael realizes that he did this in hindsight--by putting the other humans with Chidi, who has dedicated his life to studying ethics and morality, he motivates them to improve on their ethics and morals. He only didn't realize it sooner because he didn't know the humans could learn and improve. Basically, he didn't know Macgyver could build stuff. |
| 64 | * MrViceGuy: Eleanor was a self-serving, abrasive cynic, Chidi made everyone in his life miserable with his crippling fear of facing negative consequences, Tahani was a vain, attention-seeking snob who did good for selfish reasons, and Jason was a reckless moron who never considered the consequences of his actions. While these flaws are what threw them to the non-existent mercies of the Bad Place, the whole point of the series was for them to realize this and work to become better. |
| 65 | * NiceMeanAndInBetween: This mostly applies to the characters in the first season before their CharacterDevelopment: |
| 66 | ** Of the girls, Janet is genuinely cheerful and friendly (nice), Eleanor is rude and dishonest (mean), Tahani is polite but materialistic and SecretlySelfish (in-between). |
| 67 | ** Of the guys, Chidi is the only one who has no corrupt or selfish motives (nice), Michael is a literal demon until his HeelFaceTurn (mean), and Jason is a friendly but occasionally selfish LovableRogue (in-between). |
| 68 | * PlotTailoredToTheParty: Michael accidentally did this by choosing four humans who would bicker and torture each other for eternity. It turns out that the Soul Squad's qualities give them exactly what they need to escape the Bad Place and overturn the forked up system of divine justice. Eleanor's determination to grow and become a better person meld well with her pragmatism about life or the afterlife, which is how she keeps searching for solutions. Chidi's knowledge of ethics provides the Soul Squad with a foundation by which to build character and a motivation for them to improve. Tahani's apt communication, honed from years of being an event manager, allow her to convey sensible plans to use existing structures to better their situation, as shown when she tells everyone they need to plead their case to the judge. Jason's empathy and CombatPragmatist approach allows the gang to escape demons at least once, while suitably explaining to the judge about being in someone else's shoes and intuiting when [[spoiler:Janet was kidnapped]]. Everyone turned their flaws into strengths, which led to them being the heroes of the story. |
| 69 | * PositiveFriendInfluence: They're this to each other, Michael, and Janet. Despite their various flaws, they protect each other, build each other up, and help each other become better people. Nearly all of the main characters' growth can be traced back to their friendship. Eleanor and Jason needed non-toxic friends, Tahani needed friends who weren't demanding, shallow or exploitative, and Chidi needed friends who could be direct and upfront with him quickly. |
| 70 | * ThePowerOfFriendship: Despite their hangups and fights, in most reboots and in the alternate timeline Team Cockroach or The Soul Squad would rally together and become better people. |
| 71 | * ScrewDestiny: In Season 3, after learning they are condemned to going to the Bad Place, Eleanor convinces everyone that they should do as much good as possible to help everyone else get to the Good Place. They also do what they can to help Michael when he schemes to keep them out of the Bad Place. |
| 72 | * SlobsVersusSnobs: Eleanor and Jason are the boorish slobs, Chidi and Tahani are the cultured snobs, and this dynamic informs their interactions with each other. Chidi and Eleanor, and to a lesser extent Tahani and Jason, form two UptightLovesWild dynamics while Eleanor and Tahani are a TomboyAndGirlyGirl pair. In "What We Owe to Each Other", they briefly consider that Chidi and Tahani might be each other's true soulmates because of this. |
| 73 | * SpannerInTheWorks: to both Michael's plan and the cosmic system. Eleanor's proved people can learn. Chidi devised a better system. Tahani realized the need to make such a big deal about it the Judge couldn't ignore it. and Jason won over allies, including their first ally, Janet. |
| 74 | * ThrowTheDogABone: The Season 3 finale is the only time they're given a break from being tortured as part of an experiment to recreate Michael's neighborhood. Big difference from the Season 1 finale, where they were still unknowingly trapped in the Bad Place, or Season 2 where they're all given a second chance at life but lose their memories and CharacterDevelopment. Also, the memory wipes are optional this time, and Chidi is the only one who sacrifices his memories to make sure the experiment goes well and that they all aren't sent to the Bad Place. They get an even bigger bone when [[spoiler:the Judge lets them go to the real Good place in season 4]]. |
| 75 | * TownGirls: Eleanor is TheLadette (butch), Tahani is the ProudBeauty socialite (femme), and Janet is the bubbly HyperCompetentSidekick (neither). |
| 76 | * TrueCompanions: The four of them, plus Janet and Michael, become friends who are closer than their actual families, with a bond so strong, not even multiple memory wipes can destroy it. Even if they're sent to different countries, or planes of existence, they'll always come back for each other. |
| 77 | * TheUnchosenOne: Of the "[[TheChosenMany Many]]"-variety. The team is comprised of four random humans of different backgrounds [[spoiler:who are four of ''billions'' of humans being tortured in Hell]], a celestial-being constructing his first afterlife neighborhood and just another Good Place Janet. Who would have thought that a team of nobodies (in the cosmic scheme of things) would go on to [[spoiler:upend the not-so objective authority of the afterlife and reevaluate the moral balance of the universe]]? |
| 78 | * UndignifiedDeath: Due to the ([[BlackComedy somewhat]]) upbeat nature of the show, all four of the main protagonists had comedic deaths: |
| 79 | ** Eleanor was struck by a shopping cart and wheeled onto the streets, in which she was immediately hit by a truck advertising pills for erectile dysfunction. [[ObligatoryJoke Funnily enough, the first EMT to arrive was an ex-boyfriend of hers...]] |
| 80 | ** Chidi was hit by an air conditioner whilst unable to make a decision about which bar to go to. For bonus points, the air conditioner unit was the same one he had failed to properly install earlier that same day (again, due to his indecisiveness). |
| 81 | ** Tahani was crushed by the statue of her prodigious young sister, Kamilah, whilst attempting to topple it in a fit of jealousy regarding her success. |
| 82 | ** Jason suffocated to death in a safe whilst [[TooDumbToLive wearing a snorkel to make sure he'd still be able to breathe]]. |
| 83 | * YankTheDogsChain: In Season 3, on Earth, they decide to meet once a year after Tahani plans to marry Larry and Jason and Eleanor will return to the States. Eleanor isn't thrilled, but she realizes that she can't force everyone to stay together, and at least they have their friendship. While it may not have earned their way to the Good Place due to the rigging, it would have been a better effort. Then by accident, the Brainy Bunch learns about how they died once and how the system works, forfeiting their chance to enter the Good Place. Everyone breaks down for a few hours on realizing they're condemned to Hell. |
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| 86 | [[folder:Eleanor]] |
| 87 | !!Eleanor Shellstrop |
| 88 | [[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/shellstrop_eleanor.jpg]] |
| 89 | [[caption-width-right:300:''"I wasn't freaking Gandhi, but I was okay. I was a medium person. I should get to spend eternity in a medium place! Like Cincinnati."'']] |
| 90 | ->'''Portrayed by:''' Creator/KristenBell, Noelle E. Parker, Avery Hayes (young) |
| 91 | |
| 92 | -> "''What are you talking about? It is so easy to live with a lie. I once pretended to have a terminal illness to meet Creator/ScottWolf at a Sunglass Hut. Victimless crime."''\ |
| 93 | |
| 94 | [[TheHero Our Hero]], relatively speaking. Initially believed to be an activist lawyer who got innocent people off of death row and one of the best people accepted into the Good Place, she is quickly revealed to be not who she says she is. Actually a saleswoman from Arizona who sold fake medicine to the sick and elderly and self-professed "medium" person, Eleanor attempts to hide her secret and become someone worthy of staying in the Good Place. |
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| 96 | * TheAce: Ironically, despite having the worst personality when she was alive, she's the most competent of the protagonists in the afterlife. Out of the four main characters, she's constantly the one who has good ideas, finds solutions to the problems, and understands the situations. |
| 97 | * AgeGapRomance: Eleanor flippantly mentions being frequently hit on by men Michael's (physical) age, though she never specifies whether she took them up on the offer. |
| 98 | * AgeInsecurity: Implied by the fact that she frequently lied about her birthday during her time on Earth. |
| 99 | -->'''Eleanor:''' October 14, 1986. ''(beat)'' So sorry, that's what I used to tell people when I lied about my age. I was born in 1982.\ |
| 100 | '''Michael:''' You lied so much, you forgot your own birthday. Not a great start. |
| 101 | * AlcoholicParent: Eleanor's mother is all but said to be an alcoholic, and her drinking habits are shown to have put a damper on Eleanor's formative years. |
| 102 | * AllLovingHero: In the end, she helped save all of humanity. In fact, she wasn't able to find the peace necessary to go through the Door until she'd saved the last two lost souls in existence: Michael and Mindy St. Clair. |
| 103 | * AppropriatedAppellation: After Michael says he thinks of humans as "cockroaches, or dung beetles, any little thing that crawls around in its own filth," she dubs the group Team Cockroach. |
| 104 | * BadassNormal: She understandably laments her newfound burden as potential savior of the entirety of humankind in Season 4, telling Michael she's just a normal girl from Arizona. Although all of this is true, Michael reminds her that this same mundane mortal dirtbag from Arizona also beat out the then-evil demon Michael's torture systems nearly '''''800''''' times. |
| 105 | * BecameTheirOwnAntithesis: Eleanor spends Seasons 1-3 as a CosmicPlaything who consistently undergoes CharacterDevelopment to become a better person. The tables turn in Season 4 where, as Michael's compassionate DragonInChief, she runs the new experiment and gets a taste of what ''he'' was dealing with, including lying to everyone for the greater good and trying to improve the new humans' characters. |
| 106 | * BeingEvilSucks: Eleanor's selfishness and cynicism when she was alive never brought her any joy or made her happy, preventing her from ever fully growing as a person and pushing away many of her friends and romantic interests. |
| 107 | * BeingGoodSucks: In Season 3, Eleanor is annoyed when her conscience tells her to do good when it's a great inconvenience to her. Like when she returned a wallet and didn't take the money, though she is moved to tears when the owner says that he was more worried about losing his daughter's drawing within the wallet and says Eleanor is a good person. She was ''very'' close to destroying her mother's new life, and no one would blame her since Donna Shellstrop is a horny, embezzling, dog-killing liar that destroyed her first daughter's childhood. The only reason Eleanor didn't is that she refused to hurt her new stepsister Patricia, and instead told Donna to make sure not to fork up the little girl's life. |
| 108 | * BerserkButton: |
| 109 | ** She lashes out at someone for asking, "Why are you like this?" |
| 110 | ** People taking the moral high ground. As in, not trying to take the high ground over her specifically, but in general, since it hits her insecurities and makes her lash out, as shown with one of her boyfriends in life, as well as the way she rants out Chidi when he calls her out on her behavior. |
| 111 | * BigSisterInstinct: |
| 112 | ** Much to her surprise, this mixes with her envy that Patricia is getting a better childhood than Eleanor ever did since Donna is being the mom to her stepsister that Eleanor always wanted. But Eleanor clues in that Donna is occasionally tempted to return to her old ways, and bluntly tells her to not fork up Patricia's life the way Donna forked up Eleanor's childhood. |
| 113 | ** She's also somewhat of a big sister to Jason. Although they're both roughly around the same age, Eleanor is notably very patient with Jason; listens to his meaningless tirades, even when she doesn't have to; and treats him the same way any exasperated big sister would treat a little sibling. They even have a routine of high-fiving one another whenever one of them cracks a particularly dirty joke. |
| 114 | ** One of her top point gains as revealed in Season 1 was frequently spending time with her cousin's daughter, Little Julie, because the cousin was "kind of a mess." As this was one of her higher point totals, it's clear she did this for completely altruistic reasons, and didn't gain anything from doing so; she just genuinely wanted to help her. |
| 115 | * BrilliantButLazy: Eleanor is/was this, especially in her adult life. She was determined enough as a teen to work two jobs while attending high school and appears to have put herself through college. She even got a full-time job offer at a successful company, but she blew it off in favor of a commitment-free, morally dubious sales job and appears to have had zero ambitions before she died. In the afterlife, she's smart enough to get a B+ on a college-level essay on moral particularism (only slightly lower than the highly educated Tahani's grade) but she's so committed to being a self-absorbed slacker most of the time, she's almost on the same level as [[TheDitz Jason]]. |
| 116 | * ButNotTooBi: She is confirmed to be bisexual and has made comments about being attracted to women. However, all her official relationships (or at least all the ones that have been mentioned or shown) have been with men. In fact, her comments about finding women hot are usually PlayedForLaughs and restricted towards hypothetical fantasies. |
| 117 | * CelebrityCrush: She has one for Wrestling/StoneColdSteveAustin. |
| 118 | * CelebrityParadox: Her favorite movie is the clip of John Travolta saying "Adele Dazeem". Which he did to introduce her singing a song from [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 a movie also starring Kristen Bell]]. |
| 119 | * CharacterDevelopment: She starts off as a completely selfish and amoral jerk, before becoming TheLeader of Team Cockroach. Her changing under Chidi's tutelage [[SpannerInTheWorks ruins Michael's plan]] for an innovative Bad Place, which depended on her being static forever. In Season 2 she's matured from a selfish person who cares about no one but herself to being the only one who passed Gen's test of character... and then lies about it when she found out everyone else failed. In Season 3, she becomes willing to shed her hard exterior and says ScrewDestiny in the face of impending torture, on realizing that she had become a better person. She also uses her lying for the good of the new experiment when Michael has a breakdown. |
| 120 | * ChildHater: Downplayed. While Eleanor certainly hates a number of things that pertain to children, such as baby showers, children's dance recitals, or people just ''talking'' about their kids, she doesn't appear to have much against children in general. She seems to like Donna's stepdaughter Patricia just fine (even if she is a bit jealous of the affection she receives from Donna that she herself never received at that age). Her highest point count total in life also came from the genuine love she showed for her younger cousin. |
| 121 | * TheCynic: When she was living, she believed that the world was so full of bad things and people that even trying to do anything good was pointless. Although under Chidi's influence she softens into the KnightInSourArmour, her basic cynicism enables her to see through the {{Masquerade}}. Repeatedly. |
| 122 | * DarkAndTroubledPast: Her parents were self-absorbed ash-holes who ignored her to the point that she asked them to sign emancipation papers when she was fourteen and they just ''shrugged''. ("Oh, this is a joint, do you have a pen?") Apparently, the next 15 years didn't go much better, because she descended into self-absorbed ash-holery herself. |
| 123 | * DepravedBisexual: Though the show downplays both the depravity and the bisexuality. Her attraction to Tahani is rampant and text, but she's only ever shown to be in relationships with men. As for depravity... she's Eleanor. |
| 124 | * DiedOnTheirBirthday: The Season 2 finale, "[[Recap/TheGoodPlaceS2E12SomewhereElse Somewhere Else]]", reveals she died on her birthday. |
| 125 | * DissonantSerenity: She is eerily calm after being told that she's dead and in The Good Place. |
| 126 | * DrowningMySorrows: Implied. It's her first suggestion after figuring out [[spoiler:that Michael can't get her to The Good Place]]. |
| 127 | * EmancipatedChild: She legally emancipated herself from Doug and Donna when she was only fourteen years old. They didn't put up a fight, and seemed happy to be rid of their responsibility towards her. |
| 128 | * EveryoneHasStandards: Even at her worst, Eleanor can't bring herself to cross certain lines. |
| 129 | ** She briefly hesitated over blowing off house-sitting for a friend because she didn't want to leave her friend's dog to starve. Her solution was to leave all the food out, which led to said dog getting morbidly obese but still alive. |
| 130 | ** No matter how she mistreats or insults Chidi, she insists that he is a good person with no ulterior motives. She asks outright why Chidi was sent to the Bad Place, since compared to her he never did anything wrong. |
| 131 | ** She tells off her mother for arriving drunk to Doug's funeral and insulting him; she doesn't say it, but she wants the space to grieve the only father she knew. |
| 132 | ** In Season 1, she is more than willing to press the button that will "end" Janet's life... till Janet starts begging and pleading for her life. She finds it far to realistic to feel comfortable following through with it, despite Janet insisting that she will feel no pain and the begging / pleading is nothing more than a failsafe mechanism. |
| 133 | ** In "Rhonda, Diana, Jake, and Trent", she is the most adamant about NoOneGetsLeftBehind when everyone schemes to escape Shawn. Michael has to distract her to push her into the portal to get to the judge because she was screaming at him to stop before Shawn caught him. |
| 134 | ** While she could be mean to kids outside of her family, she is remarkably kind to the kids who are related to her. She took a cousin on a nice outing for a churro dog, and upon meeting her stepsister Patricia, told their mother Donna to make sure that she didn't fork up Patricia's life the way that Donna messed up Eleanor. |
| 135 | ** Two examples that are played for laughs - Removing both shoes ''and'' socks on an airline is too much, and flossing in an open office is a crime worthy of eternal torture. |
| 136 | * EvilCanNotComprehendGood: "Evil" is a bit too strong here, but when she was alive, she couldn't fathom people being genuinely nice and altruistic for the sake of it and always assumed they had some ulterior motive. |
| 137 | * {{Expy}}: During the first season, she's one for Inès Serrano from ''Theatre/NoExit'', being a nasty antisocial lady who hits on their female companion (Estelle in ''No Exit'' and Tahani in ''The Good Place''), freely admits that she was a terrible person in life, and [[OnlySaneMan is the first to realize how and why they're all being tortured]]. After the events of the first season, though, she goes through CharacterDevelopment and quickly evolves beyond her similarities to Inès. |
| 138 | * FictionalFanRealCelebrity: Eleanor is vocal about her CelebrityCrush on Wrestling/StoneColdSteveAustin, and "once lied about having a terminal illness to meet Creator/ScottWolf." |
| 139 | * ForgottenBirthday: She got her emancipation papers on her fourteenth birthday, after her parents expectedly forgot to buy her a present. |
| 140 | * FreudianExcuse: |
| 141 | ** Part of the reason she's suspicious of Donna Shellstrop having reformed is that Donna never found a reason to reform for ''her'' and regularly emotionally abused her firstborn daughter. Donna killing her dog by accident and going into an inappropriate KickTheDog speech towards Eleanor, who was at the oldest six or seven, was one such example. |
| 142 | ** She explicitly states post-HeelFaceTurn for real that her mother's emotional abuse was the reason why she never felt vulnerable enough to confess to a lover that she loved him or her. |
| 143 | * FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse: Eleanor uses her neglectful parents and broken home as an excuse for her bad behavior. While her parents are genuinely awful, painfully self-absorbed and completely immoral, she eventually realizes that her past doesn't justify her actions. She even confesses this to Jason in "Mindy St. Clair", and a large part of her CharacterDevelopment involves her learning to take responsibility for her own actions and not be as selfish. |
| 144 | * TheFriendNobodyLikes: In life, she was this with the co-workers she drank with. She didn't really like ''them'' either; she was only tagging along for the drinking, not the friendship. Even among her social circle, she was either too much of a jerk for some and too nice for others. |
| 145 | * GoodFeelsGood: Eleanor is very excited when she realizes that she's started doing good things because she wants to, not just as a ploy to get to stay in the Good Place. When she gets a second chance at life, it starts out this way but [[InSpiteOfANail starts falling apart after about half a year, until Michael secretly guides her toward Chidi.]] |
| 146 | * GoodIsNotNice: She's not as outwardly sweet as ethics professor Chidi or the wholesome Tahani, but she ''is'' a genuinely good person as of the later seasons. |
| 147 | %%* GreenEyedMonster: A little when it comes to Chidi. %Needs more context |
| 148 | * HasAType: Eleanor has a thing for mailmen, particularly if she can get them to take their shirt off in front of her. |
| 149 | * HateAtFirstSight: A key part of Michael's plan is that Eleanor will hate Tahani the minute they meet, for no real reason. This part is mentioned to consistently work during their stay in the Bad Place. While it's initially averted when they meet in Season 3, where their first meeting goes much better, Eleanor still takes joy in taunting and mocking Tahani when she can. |
| 150 | * TheHedonist: When she was alive, she lived only to please herself and for instant gratification. |
| 151 | * HeroProtagonist: She starts out as a VillainProtagonist, but slowly becomes more and more selfless and determined over the course of the show, such that by the end of the first season she's the only main character determined to sacrifice herself to the Bad Place, no matter what, for the sake of the others, and even convinces Jason to do the right thing and leave the Medium Place to save Chidi and Tahani. |
| 152 | * InherentlyAttractiveProfession: Eleanor's thing for mailmen repeatedly comes up. It's implied that the uniform plays a big role in this case. |
| 153 | * ItsAllAboutMe: When she was alive, this was her defining personality trait. |
| 154 | * IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy: Despite being attracted to Chidi and falling in love with him several times, Eleanor will always step aside if he showed interest in someone else. In Season 3, she starts falling for him as he teaches her ethics, but is beyond ecstatic on realizing that he's in love with Simone in the neuroscience department. She schemes to make sure Chidi asks Simone out on a date and later gains the courage to kiss her. |
| 155 | * JerkassHasAPoint: |
| 156 | ** Eleanor is quick to point out everyone's flaws, suggesting that everyone is not as good as they seem - especially Tahani. She adds how it makes no sense to only pick the "best" people rather than have a place for "people who weren't terrible but not perfect." Michael and the Soul Squad come to agree with her. |
| 157 | --->'''Eleanor:''' What, one in a million gets to live in paradise and everyone else is tortured for eternity?! |
| 158 | ** When Chidi is down after being told his 3600 page book on ethics is a mess, Eleanor points out how "I get bored halfway through a text message" so even being able to ''write'' something so thick is an achievement to be proud of. This cheers Chidi up and gives him the motivation to rewrite his book. |
| 159 | ** While she uses it too much as an excuse for her awful behavior, her parents were genuinely terrible and neglectful people and her cynicism and selfishness resulting from her experiences with them is at least understandable. |
| 160 | * JerkassRealization: Eleanor was so self-absorbed that she never realized just how much of a jerk she was and thought of herself as a mildly decent person. When she is confronted with her past actions, she finally realizes just how nasty and selfish she was. |
| 161 | * JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Eleanor is shown to be a flagrantly selfish and hedonistic person, but she does eventually admit to having felt some guilt for shirking her trash duties, and she's the only one who finds it wrong that people who weren't perfect but weren't utterly terrible are sent to a place of eternal torment after they die. Deep down, she is capable of great selflessness and compassion. Her confessing to not belonging in the Good Place to protect Chidi is the most heroic act she commits. |
| 162 | * KickTheDog: PlayedForLaughs. Events in her life that resulted in her losing the highest amount of points include screaming at 22 different waiters, crashing Vanessa Garcia's quinceanera, showing a 9-year-old child ''Film/TheShining'', cyberbullying a pregnant woman from her spin class, and getting into fights with various children for trying to sell her things for their fundraisers (88 times). |
| 163 | * TheLadette: In many ways, she's written like a stereotypical uncouth man. She's also fond of women's MMA. |
| 164 | * LazyBum: As part of the "brilliant, but lazy" thing noted above. Michael notes that in life, if the going got tough for Eleanor, she gave up, to the extent she just abandoned her car the minute the oil change light came on, or in another instance frequenting a coffee shop owned and operated by a pervert simply because it was closer to her apartment. |
| 165 | * TheLeader: She eventually ends up being the ''de facto'' leader of Team Cockroach, mainly the Headstrong type. |
| 166 | -->'''Tahani:''' Oh, and to Eleanor, our unofficial leader. You pack a lot of heart and grit into that diminutive frame. Like a scrappy little auto mechanic. |
| 167 | * LimitedWardrobe: Her fashion sense tends towards casual clothes in blue and pink, often jeans and a flannel shirt, appropriate for a "trashbag from Arizona." |
| 168 | * LonersAreFreaks: From what "Someone Like Me as a Member" reveals, when she was alive, she disliked making any emotional or social connections with others to the point she quit a high paying job for the con job she had before she died because it was required she play games with her coworkers to form bonds. She also announced at a high school she transferred to when she was younger she didn't want to be friends with anyone and refused praise from another loner who respected her actions. |
| 169 | * LyingToProtectYourFeelings: Just as Gen tries to tell that Eleanor was the only one to pass her test and earn the right to the Good Place, Eleanor steps in and lies about her failure, so nobody would feel guilty about sending her to the Bad Place. |
| 170 | * MagneticHero: Surprisingly. She is able to convince everyone on Team Cockroach, even Michael, a bona fide demon, to work together to get them into the Good Place, and eventually, to change the system altogether. |
| 171 | * MeaningfulName: |
| 172 | ** One possible etymology for the name Eleanor comes from the life of [[UsefulNotes/EleanorofAquitaine Queen Eleanor of Aquitaine]], who was christened "Aenor" after her mother and then dubbed "alia Aenor," "the other Aenor" in her native Occitan. Eleanor is also [[OneSteveLimit "the other Eleanor."]] She also shares her medieval counterpart's political savvy, flair for the dramatic, and talent for survival. Additionally, it can be said that by her learning ethics and directly trying to improve herself, she's trying to ''become'' another, better version of herself (as in, "another Eleanor"). |
| 173 | ** At the same time, her name means "light-hearted", and she is nothing but. |
| 174 | * MessianicArchetype: As insane as it sounds, she essentially served as this. She was the person that managed to convince Michael of the capacity for goodness in every human, which led to the team figuring out and fixing the rules that had doomed every human soul for over five centuries to the Bad Place, essentially making her the savior of the souls of humanity. |
| 175 | * MinorLivingAlone: She got herself emancipated at the age of fourteen, and from then on lived by herself. It's not clear if she continued going to school or had to drop out, but she mentions having to pretend to be older to get a job. The sad part is, she probably ''was'' better off this way than she was with her parents. |
| 176 | * MirrorCharacter: In "The Trolley Problem", she notices that she and Michael have a disturbing amount in common. This is ''after'' she realizes that Michael is actually a demon. |
| 177 | * NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead: She told off her drunk mother for turning her dad's funeral into a "roast" when she just wanted some space to grieve. |
| 178 | * NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: After time is reset so that none of the main characters ever died in the first place to see if they would change their ways without the goal of a reward, Eleanor does indeed start to make an effort to be a better person after surviving the incident at the supermarket. However, her honest persona starts to have negative consequences, such as confessing to her roommate that she was the one responsible for tearing her dress and the "dress bitch" shirts resulting in the loss of her friendship and leaving an apology note on a car she ran into resulting in her receiving a lawsuit from the owner. |
| 179 | * NoodleIncident: For unknown reasons, she has a lifetime ban from Build-A-Bear Workshop. |
| 180 | * OneTrueLove: No matter what Michael did, no matter what ridiculous permutations or scenarios he set up, Eleanor always found Chidi, always asked him for help, and he always helped her. |
| 181 | -->''There is no answer. But Eleanor is the answer.'' |
| 182 | * OnlySaneByComparison: |
| 183 | ** When she was alive, she was this only when hanging out with her roommates. In the flashbacks with her co-workers, strangers, or other people, she comes off as a horrible person. But in the flashbacks with her roommates, she comes off as slightly more normal and reasonable, since Brittany and Madison were even worse people than her. |
| 184 | ** In the afterlife, she's this in the main cast. Despite being still rough and impulsive, she's easily the most perceptive and StreetSmart of the four, due to Chidi being a neurotic DitzyGenius, Tahani being an extremely shallow IdleRich, and Jason being TheDitz. This is also due to her CharacterDevelopment, since she's able to overcome the flaws she had when she was alive (being mean and selfish) much more easily than the other three with their respective flaws. |
| 185 | * TheParanoiac: Eleanor's life turned her into a misanthrope and made her unable to trust people. While it gives her a useful advantage when people are trying to manipulate her, it's also depicted as very maladaptive, since Eleanor seeing the worst in everyone makes her unable to open up and causes her to think kind people are silently judging her faults when they are (probably) doing no such thing, such as thinking various Rite-Aid employees were judging her purchases, or that Tahani is out to get her. |
| 186 | * ParentalNeglect: Much of her behavior is explained by a flashback revealing that Eleanor's parents were truly horrible people, total deadbeats who didn't even know her birthday and blew her college savings on bail money and various idiotic schemes. |
| 187 | * PerverseSexualLust: In Season 3, a review of Attempt #445 shows that Michael knows that she has frequent sex dreams about Sam The Eagle from ''Franchise/TheMuppets'', which Eleanor simply responds that she finds his authority reassuring. |
| 188 | * PintsizePowerhouse: It's frequently noted that Eleanor is quite short and petite. However, in the third season BarBrawl she effortlessly knocks out the demon Vicky with one punch, and this is after Vicky had taken multiple blows from Janet with much less effect. Evidently, Eleanor knows a thing or two about bar fights. |
| 189 | * ProperlyParanoid: |
| 190 | ** Earlier in Season 1, she correctly guesses that the marriage counselor and identity fraud expert couple wants to swing with her and Chidi. First they attempted to while posing as humans, then after the reveal of the twist they're shown in a flashback laughing with Michael and saying they could probably get Eleanor and Chidi to do it. |
| 191 | ** On a more serious note, she had usually been the one (except for Jason one time) to blow Michael's attempts at secretly torturing the 4 humans by revealing that they're really in the Bad Place, across ''over 800 different reboots'' with their memories wiped each time. |
| 192 | * ProudBeauty: She is confident in her own appearance, but usually done congratulating a current love interest for landing her rather than treating guys as a MealTicket. This often slides into the conversation at odd times, even when not appropriate. |
| 193 | -->'''Eleanor:''' ''[when trying to cheer Chidi up about Michael not seeming to take to his lessons]'' Teaching [Michael] to be good... it's like teaching me how to be not hot. How would you even do it? You'd have me hunch or something and then stand there and say "gurp, gurp, gurp"? I don't even know. I can't even picture it because I've been hot my whole life.\ |
| 194 | '''Chidi:''' I'm sorry. Who is this conversation for again? |
| 195 | * QueerEstablishingMoment: In the Season 1 finale Eleanor offhandedly states that "I might actually be attracted to Tahani". She expresses attraction to other women later on. |
| 196 | * RedOniBlueOni: The Red Oni to Chidi's Blue Oni. She's a headstrong and impulsive {{Womanchild}} and, especially before her CharacterDevelopment, very hedonistic, while Chidi is a levelheaded intellectual type and much more hesitant and thoughtful about his actions [[TheDitherer (to the point of paralyzing indecisiveness).]] |
| 197 | * SignificantNameOverlap: The pretense of her being in Neighborhood 12358W is that she died alongside another woman named Eleanor Shellstrop in the same accident, and when this woman shows up they start referring to her and our Eleanor as "Real" and "Fake" Eleanor, respectively. Ironically, "Real" Eleanor [[SubvertedTrope is actually a demon named Vicky and the whole thing was a ruse]], and in the end Eleanor is the one and only. |
| 198 | * SingleWomanSeeksGoodMan: |
| 199 | ** She would never admit it, but Eleanor's taste in men tends to go towards the NiceGuy UnderstandingBoyfriend who put up with a lot from her. |
| 200 | ** During her first lifetime, she dated a guy named Sam long enough for him to support her at her dad's funeral, and her issue with Sam was that he worried about hurting others with ethical choices. Sam was especially patient when Eleanor's drunk mother showed up and made a scene while emotionally abusing Eleanor. |
| 201 | ** She realizes in Season 1 that she fell in love with Chidi, who risked his stay in paradise to help her reform. Later, Eleanor is heartbroken to learn that Michael erased one reboot where Chidi returned her feelings and they admitted they loved each other. |
| 202 | ** Another past boyfriend of hers was a firefighter who saved children from burning buildings. |
| 203 | * SirSwearsALot: Played with. Eleanor certainly has a colorful vocabulary; however, since the supernaturally enforced rules of the neighborhood forbid profanity, she just constantly talks about "forking benches" and such. |
| 204 | * SnakeOilSalesman: Eleanor worked as a telemarketer selling fake medicines to sick seniors. |
| 205 | * SourOutsideSadInside: Eleanor is initially, a rude, selfish, cynical person. She also had an absolutely terrible childhood that taught her she couldn't rely on anyone, even her own parents. |
| 206 | -->'''Eleanor robot''': I'm Eleanor Shellstrop. I mock others to distract myself from the emptiness inside me. |
| 207 | * SpannerInTheWorks: |
| 208 | ** Eleanor, to the shock of everyone (including herself), genuinely reformed under Chidi's tutelage. This completely ruined Michael's plans and forced him to bring in Shawn to try and get things back under control. She also always figures out that she, Chidi, Tahani and Jason are all actually in The Bad Place, being used to torture each other. |
| 209 | ** In the second season, it doesn't matter what new tricks Michael comes up with to make the four humans think they're in the Good Place, most of the time it's Eleanor who figures out where they are. After it happens more than ''eight hundred'' times, Michael is forced to team up with them as the only way to break the eternal stalemate. |
| 210 | * SpottingTheThread: She's surprisingly good at this, at least compared to the rest of Team Cockroach. In all of the iterations of the neighborhood, she's (almost) always the one that eventually notices that it's really the Bad Place for some small reason, and during the Judge's SecretTestOfCharacter, she quickly notices that Chidi isn't the real Chidi [[SomethingOnlyTheyWouldSay based on an out-of-character remark]]. |
| 211 | * StepfordSnarker: At one point, she is called out for constantly mocking others as a way to distract herself from the emptiness inside her. She admits this is a fair observation. |
| 212 | * StealthPun: Eleanor's favorite food is shrimp, which makes sense as she's quite "shellfish." |
| 213 | * StreetSmart: Eleanor doesn't fall easily for traps and has shown an ease to figure out when people are lying to her or plotting against her, she's a very good judge of character and capable of detecting small things that can be used as hints to figure out something when others are talking. |
| 214 | * SuspiciouslySpecificDenial: Will often turn to a convoluted and very specific example from her own life when emphasizing a point, and will then proceed to deny that it's based on a true story. Eventually she starts admitting when they're based on actual events. |
| 215 | * TinyTyrannicalGirl: Because she's 5'1", she's a good deal shorter than everyone else in the main cast and most people on the show in general, but she still manages to intimidate people due to her short temper and headstrong nature. |
| 216 | * TomboyAndGirlyGirl: The Tomboy to Tahani's Girly Girl. Tahani is warm-hearted, has a feminine fashion sense, and is a social butterfly while Eleanor is a blunter {{Ladette}}. |
| 217 | * TomboyWithAGirlyStreak: Eleanor might be a crass, hypersexual {{Ladette}}, but she also enjoys celebrity gossip, keeping up with Kendall Jenner's Instagram feed as well as her entire family tree, and ''Series/TheRealHousewives of Atlanta''. She also takes pride in her own beauty and brags about her hotness very frequently. |
| 218 | * TookALevelInKindness: [[InvokedTrope Eleanor doing this deliberately]], in the hopes of becoming the kind of person who deserves to be in The Good Place, is half the premise of the show. She succeeds to the point that she's willing to go to The Bad Place to spare those she feels are genuinely more deserving of paradise. It's only really started to stick in the Season 3 finale, because for once her memories aren't wiped and she pulls herself together to pose as the architect of the Fake Neighborhood. |
| 219 | * TrademarkFavoriteFood: She really loves shrimp. Her ApologyGift from Michael is even an Infinite Shrimp Dispenser (a soda machine with shrimp in place of ice, with various dipping sauces). |
| 220 | * {{Tsundere}}: Towards Chidi, no matter what iteration, as Mindy lampshades. |
| 221 | * UndignifiedDeath: Eleanor's memory of her own death was erased because it was "traumatic and embarrassing". She bent over to pick up a bottle of Lonely Gal Margarita Mix For One in a parking lot, and a long column of shopping carts plowed into her. She was carried into the street and struck by a billboard truck advertising an erectile dysfunction pill. Funnily enough, the first EMT to arrive was an ex-boyfriend of hers... |
| 222 | * UnkemptBeauty: While being in the Good Place usually keeps her fairly well groomed and fashionably dressed, her natural style tends to be jeans and a sweatshirt and is no less stunning with them. This provides a contrast to Tahani, who is part of TheBeautifulElite. |
| 223 | * UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist: In her life on Earth she was selfish, angry, spiteful and [[ItsAllAboutMe self-absorbed]]... but part of this was from neglectful parents that made her independent to a fault. So it's not entirely unjustified but she does have a good side and it doesn't take much for her to be better. |
| 224 | * YouAreWorthHell: She told Chidi this in two timelines, saying no matter what happened to them in the Bad Place or the many dimensions, she loved him and that's all that mattered. Unusually for Chidi, he reciprocated her feelings. |
| 225 | [[/folder]] |
| 226 | |
| 227 | [[folder:Chidi]] |
| 228 | !!Chidi Anagonye |
| 229 | [[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/anagonye_chidi.jpg]] |
| 230 | [[caption-width-right:300:''"You know the sound that a fork makes in a garbage disposal? That's the sound that my brain makes all the time."'']] |
| 231 | ->'''Portrayed by:''' Creator/WilliamJacksonHarper, [=A.J.=] Hudson (young) |
| 232 | |
| 233 | -> "''Okay, sure, but philosophy is about questioning things that you take for granted, and I, I just don't think that you're doing that.''"\ |
| 234 | |
| 235 | A moral philosophy professor from Senegal and Eleanor's soulmate. Well, for the Eleanor who is supposed to be there. Roped into keeping her secret, Chidi becomes the mentor to this not awful (but definitely not great) person by teaching her how to be good. |
| 236 | ---- |
| 237 | * AbusiveParents: Averted. He's the only one of the four whose parents ''weren't'' toxic and/or destructive. However, [[spoiler:his helping them stay together is part of what made him so certain that everything had an answer if you spent enough time to find it.]] Amusingly, they were also the source of his first stomach ache, when they asked him as a baby if he liked his name. |
| 238 | * AdorablyPrecociousChild: Flashbacks to his childhood reveal him to have been very precocious and a professor in the making, already pondering existential questions at a young age. |
| 239 | * AmnesiacResonance: [[spoiler:In Season 4, unlike any of the other times that he was in the fake neighborhood, Chidi can sense that he is being tortured. It's unclear if him seeing the Time-Knife in season 3 had anything to do with this, or that he was so happy before]]. |
| 240 | * BadassBookworm: |
| 241 | ** When Michael set up the scenario for Chidi to teach Eleanor ethics, he didn't expect for the man to ''succeed''. What's more, he would later do the same with Michael, and it was his idea to recreate the experiment to see if people can change after death. [[spoiler:When Eleanor wakes him up and restores his memories, it's also his idea to reform the afterlife by testing them with scenarios that force them to grow as people, using the Bad Place demons]]. |
| 242 | ** In a more literal sense, he's shockingly buff for an academic (he works out to deal with anxiety) and when [[spoiler:actually provoked to throw a punch at Brent, he floors him instantly and knocks him through a table]]. |
| 243 | * BadLiar: Refuses to tell lies if at all possible, and even considering telling one for an ethical reason twists him up in knots. As a result, he's terrible at it. |
| 244 | * BewareTheNiceOnes: When Michael messed with Chidi by reenacting the Trolley Problem, Chidi got so mad that he kicked Michael out and threatened his ability to become good enough to enter the Good Place. [[spoiler:It comes to a head when he punches out Brent in Season 4 for calling Simone a "bench" and shoving him]]. |
| 245 | * BlackAndNerdy: A moral philosophy professor from Senegal who is neurotic, bookish, not good with confrontation, and considers rowing out to the middle of a lake while reading French poetry to be his idea of a good time in paradise. |
| 246 | * BookSmart: With his vast knowledge of ethics and philosophy, he's the most well-educated of the main characters. |
| 247 | * BunnyEarsLawyer: For all his flaws, Chidi is a rocking awesome ethics professor. He manages to reform Eleanor in several hundred reboots in teaching her to be a good person, and it wasn't just because she fell in love with him during several of those; much later, he succeeds in reforming ''Michael'', who is a demon, from someone who is an AffablyEvil sadist into a literal NobleDemon that breaks the rules to save his friends' souls. As we see on Earth, his students like him and highly respect him. |
| 248 | * ButtMonkey: Bad things often happen to him for the sake of comedy. Just as an example, during the long montage of [[NoodleIncidents Neighborhood reboots]] in "Dance Dance Resolution", two of Eleanor's {{Eureka Moment}}s regarding the Bad Place feature [[FunnyBackgroundEvent in the background]] Chidi getting frightened by an angry pig while at a farm and getting chased across a field by a ScaryStingingSwarm of [[BeeAfraid bees]]. |
| 249 | * CharacterCatchphrase: |
| 250 | ** "I have / am getting a stomach ache." |
| 251 | ** "I am vexed, [addressee]! ''Vexed!''" |
| 252 | ** A drawn-out "what?" |
| 253 | ** In Season 4, whenever he's particularly pleased about something, his response is always a rather high-pitched and delighted "Oh!" |
| 254 | * CharacterDevelopment: |
| 255 | ** More than anyone else on the show, Chidi's development is of a "three steps forward, two steps back" type thanks to his indecisive nature. Time and again he tries to become more decisive, and he even has long stretches where he succeeds... but then, when one of his decisions turns out to be wrong or has negative consequences, he tends to lapse back into indecisiveness for fear that he'll make another wrong choice. His development comes to a head in the Season 3 finale, as he makes the decision to willingly give up memories in order to ensure the success of the experiment, a choice that is no doubt the most decisive decision he's made in his entire life. |
| 256 | ** In Season 4, [[spoiler:he's becoming more attuned to SpottingTheThread in the neighborhood, which is remarkable considering he's the one who gave up his memories and confidence to save the experiment. What's more, while he may not stand up for himself, he ''will'' stand up for others. His begging John to not blow Jason's cover has an impact, as John doesn't want to hurt Chidi or Jason. He also gains the confidence to stand up to Brent against the latter's racism and eventually punches him out for insulting Simone and shoving him]]. |
| 257 | ** By "The Answer" he is notably more serene, finally understanding that [[spoiler:some things in life just don't have answers.]] |
| 258 | * CharacterFilibuster: Once had an online lecture on Kantian philosophy that lasted three hours. |
| 259 | * ClarkKentOutfit: Chidi is a nerdy professor and dresses like one most of the time, but Eleanor mentions that he is "surprisingly jacked". This is confirmed in Season 3 when he rips off his shirt during a breakdown and is shown to be quite well-built, more than characters of his archetype in fiction usually are anyways. It's eventually explained that he exercises to cope with stress. |
| 260 | * TheCloudcuckoolanderWasRight: He thinks he ended up in the Bad Place because he drank almond milk. That's not the reason, but he's right about something so small putting enough evil in the world that it can damn a person for eternity. |
| 261 | * CluelessChickMagnet: Amusingly enough, he has had several different women vying for him at some point in the story (Vicky was faking it as part of her act, though her fixation on torturing him definitely raised some eyebrows), and he doesn't usually realize it until they spell it out for him. Notable because this doesn't tend to happen to characters of his archetype. |
| 262 | * TheConscience: To Eleanor, since he is the one teaching her about ethics and how to be a better person. Eleanor even asks herself [[WhatWouldXDo "What would Chidi do"]]. |
| 263 | * ConsistentClothingStyle: Chidi dresses like an academic in formal shirts and slacks, sometimes paired with a vest. |
| 264 | * CoolTeacher: He's very patient with his students, both in the afterlife and in the real world. As he points out, ethics is the only thing he's certain about because he's studied it for years. In fact, his students are genuinely worried when he seems to have a nervous breakdown and tells them to embrace nihilism. |
| 265 | * CordonBleughChef: During his brief HeroicBSOD, Chidi cared so little, that he decides to make canned chili with ''candy and marshmallows'' in it. He seems to have normal tastes and cooking ability otherwise. |
| 266 | * CunningLinguist: Chidi speaks half a dozen languages in addition to his native French, including Latin, "[[CrazyPrepared just in case it comes back]]." |
| 267 | * DeathFromAbove: Chidi died when an air conditioner slipped from a windowsill and landed on his head. |
| 268 | * DemotedToExtra: Downplayed. He's no longer the main character for most of Season 4 due to his memory being erased, putting him out of commission for helping the others run the neighborhood... And yet because the entire experiment hinges on him, he's effectively the ''most'' important character, just OutOfFocus. Even then, he is still a major supporting character, along with the other three humans in the new neighborhood. When he regains his memories, he goes back to being a main character. |
| 269 | * TheDitherer: Chidi is the "Too Many Trees" variant of this trope -- that is, he can't see the forest for the trees, weighing all sides of an issue far too much. It quite often gets to the point that that he can't stop weighing the pros and cons of anything long enough to make an actual decision. It's also deconstructed, as this flaw is what got him sent to the Bad Place due to how miserable it made everyone around him. |
| 270 | -->'''Eleanor''': Uh-oh, it's Chidi kryptonite: a choice between any two things. |
| 271 | ** He possesses an immense amount of knowledge, but it is all in constant conflict in his head, leading him to be unable to make even the simplest of decisions (such as choosing between a dry-erase board and marker or paper and pen). |
| 272 | ** His indecision is actually what killed him; [[DeathFromAbove he was hit by a falling AC unit]] while he was too busy making a decision, spending half an hour just trying to decide what bar he and his friend should get a drink at. |
| 273 | ** This is such a defining part of his character that Gen, the all-powerful judge, tests him by telling him to choose between two hats, a brown one and a grey one. He spends 82 minutes preoccupied with deciding which choice is the right one, failing because he didn't realize that neither one was the "right" one. The point was that it was a SecretTestOfCharacter; the right answer, therefore, was that either one was right. Chidi just had to make a simple choice quickly. |
| 274 | * {{Doorstopper}}: Chidi's life's work is a 3600-page monstrosity that attempted to encompass the entirety of human morality and ethics. Unfortunately, he contradicts himself so much that not even Michael, a near-omniscient supernatural being, can make sense of it. |
| 275 | * EndearinglyDorky: Chidi is a shy and analytical bookworm who can be an awkward NervousWreck, especially once his indecisiveness comes to light. Doesn't stop him from being a CluelessChickMagnet. For example, Simone delightedly explains that he's so weird, and she likes it. |
| 276 | * EstablishingCharacterMoment: Not to us, but to ''the universe''. Mere moments after he's born, he gets a stomachache after his parents ask him if he likes his name. |
| 277 | * ExactWords: He wants to be [[WillNotTellALie unrelentingly honest]], which causes problems when the team has to lie their way through a Bad Place event. While pretending to be a demon, he's asked about torture techniques, so he tells the truth: he was once assigned to torture a DumbBlonde from Arizona, so he made her read books. |
| 278 | * {{Expy}}: During the first season, he's basically a nicer version of Joseph Garcin from ''Theatre/NoExit''; Garcin feigns being an honest man mistakenly punished, and Chidi has no reason to believe, as a moral philosopher, that he would end up in the Bad Place. Both men are also cowardly French-speakers caught between the two women in their stories. After the events of the first season, though, he goes through CharacterDevelopment and quickly evolves beyond his similarities to Garcin. |
| 279 | * FatalFlaw: '''[[TheDitherer Indecision.]]''' He's a nice guy, but his obsession with always doing [[ThePerfectionist the most ethical thing no matter what]] has ruined his life and poisoned his relationships with other people. He also spends so much time debating the rights and wrongs of a situation that he never makes any decisions, so he either lets the decision time out or he lets others decide for him, and even then he can't make it concrete. He missed his mother's back surgery because he was already committed to helping his landlord's nephew set up a new phone, and once obsessed over a little white lie he told three years ago that meant nothing to anyone but himself. |
| 280 | -->'''Chidi:''' Every friend, every girlfriend was driven mad because I couldn't ''do'' anything! |
| 281 | * GentlemanAndAScholar: He's an incredibly intelligent and kind person, though his obsession with morality and resulting indecisiveness do a lot of harm. |
| 282 | * HeelRealization: Chidi realizes how much almond milk... no, his obsession and indecisiveness over doing the right thing led to him hurting everyone in his life and got him sent to the Bad Place. |
| 283 | * HeroesLoveDogs: He's shown to be fond of dogs on multiple occasions, and mentions having had one as a kid that he really loved. When trying to find the right way to break up with Simone, he seriously considers giving her a dog as he does so just to lighten the blow, and in a flashback, we see him unable to choose between two adorable puppies. |
| 284 | * HeroicBSOD: In Season 3, after he learns about his death, time in the Bad Place, and resurrection - and discovers that this knowledge dooms him to the Bad Place '''again''' because of the moral deserts problem, he loses morale entirely and embraces nihilism for the rest of the day. |
| 285 | * HonorBeforeReason: To the point of being a PrinciplesZealot. His strong moral code and refusal to budge on that often leads him to either do stupid things or otherwise put something important at risk. In "Rhonda, Diana, Jake, and Trent", he has a very hard time lying to the demons who think he's one of them because he's very much against lying, even though he ''needs'' to or else he'll be condemned to eternal damnation. |
| 286 | * IgnoredEpiphany: When he was alive, pretty much everyone told him that his attitude was unhealthy and he occasionally showed signs of listening but always fell back into his old habits. |
| 287 | * InnocentlyInsensitive: For Chidi, the road to the Bad Place was literally paved with good intentions. He cared about the people around him and only wanted to live a moral life, but his tendency to overthink and obsess about taking the right path led to him being so indecisive that he hurt everyone around him. |
| 288 | * IronicName: His given name means "God Lives". On one hand, it's fitting for a moral philosophy professor that finds out that the afterlife is real. However, in a show about what happens to you after you die, God is surprisingly non-existent as a character. In fact, it's implied in-universe that there is ''no'' God, or at least not as understood in modern Abrahamic religions, or any other religion for that matter (the closest thing so far would be Gen, referred to only as "The Judge"). And in Season 3, when a resurrected Team Cockroach accidentally finds out about the afterlife and is automatically disqualified from their last shot at getting into the Good Place, Chidi, taking it the worst out of everyone, ends up reciting everyone's favorite [[Creator/FriedrichNietzsche Nietzsche quote]]: |
| 289 | -->'''Dealer:''' Hey, do you wanna talk to God?\ |
| 290 | '''Chidi:''' ''[emotionless]'' God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to ''invent''? (Creator/FriedrichNietzsche, 1882.)\ |
| 291 | '''Dealer:''' ''[visibly freaked out]'' ...I was just try'na sell you some drugs, and you made it ''weird! (runs off)'' |
| 292 | * KnowNothingKnowItAll: Chidi is a variation. While he knows a lot about morality and ethics, he is unable to present a concise, decisive view of his knowledge, having learned so much that he can't keep his thoughts straight. His 3,600-page book is a total mess where Chidi repeats himself, goes off on tangents, and quite often contradicts what he just said. Chidi is naturally thrown to realize his life's work is worthless. |
| 293 | * LimitedWardrobe: As a college professor he is usually seen wearing polo shirts or flannel business shirts with a vest and brown slacks. |
| 294 | * LoveAtFirstSight: He and Eleanor tend to click on seeing each other in a fair portion of reboots. In Reboot 1, Chidi was attracted to her before hearing her story. Eleanor only realizes she fell in love with him for real after he saves her from going to the Bad Place. On Earth, Eleanor becomes besotted with him after seeing a video of his lecture but doesn't feel vulnerable enough to express it especially since he was interested in Simone. |
| 295 | * MeaningfulName: |
| 296 | ** "Chidi" is one of the names that can mean "God Lives" in Igbo, a language spoken in Nigeria, where Chidi was born before he moved to Senegal. This is even directly stated in the show by Kamilah. It's quite fitting for a show set in the afterlife. Furthermore, Eleanor had no real exposure to the concept of a person living a life focused on trying to do what was good, with Chidi introducing her to it (and, in a sense, bringing her closer to God). |
| 297 | ** "Anagonye" comes from three separate Igbo words that combine to mean "to build from the ground up," which Chidi does by giving Eleanor and later all of Team Cockroach entry-level ethics lessons to help improve their (mostly) non-existent morals. Also, though pronounced differently, it has the word "agony" in it, which handily describes his SecretKeeper situation and status as a ButtMonkey. |
| 298 | * MoralityPet: He helps Eleanor change for the better no matter the circumstance. Eleanor, who will otherwise insult him and other people, keeps emphasizing that Chidi is a good person and he deserves better than what he got. Exaggerated when he gets Michael, a literal demon, to pull a HeelFaceTurn through his ethics lessons. |
| 299 | * MoralityChain: He also functions as one of these to Team Cockroach, constantly analyzing their actions to help them make the best decision. |
| 300 | * MrFanservice: Very rarely the case due to his personality, but apparent when he takes off his shirt, due to his rather impressive figure underneath. |
| 301 | * NerdGlasses: Thick black rectangular ones, just to mark that he's the resident professor. Also possibly counts as PurelyAestheticGlasses, since he can't possibly be in need of them in the afterlife. |
| 302 | * NerdsAreSexy: Played with. Chidi is extremely ripped, but also a shy philosophy professor. According to Eleanor, this is because he once learned exercise helped with anxiety and then never stopped doing it. |
| 303 | * NervousWreck: Doing anything immoral, no matter how slight, turns Chidi into a wreck. He obsessed over a white lie he told his coworker for ''three years.'' |
| 304 | * NiceGuy: Like many of those in the Good Place, Chidi is kind and morally upstanding. Though initially conflicted about whether or not he should help Eleanor stay, he decides to go through with it even though it puts him in extreme danger as well. Michael even notes that he was the closest of the main four to get into the real Good Place. Not actually ''close'', but closer than the other three. |
| 305 | * NoSenseOfDirection: He claims to have what doctors call "directional insanity". Apparently he once got lost on an ''escalator.'' |
| 306 | * NonActionGuy: Despite being "surprisingly jacked", he's not good at physical fighting. In the fight scene in "Don't Let the Good Life Pass You By", he spends his time getting dragged around, while the others get hits on the demons. |
| 307 | * NoRespectGuy: Downplayed. The remainder of the Soul Squad (especially Eleanor and Michael) make fun of him due to his profession and indecisiveness. Besides that, he is considered the most valuable member of the team due to his intelligence and kindness. |
| 308 | * NotSoAboveItAll: In the new experiment in "Pandemonium," he giggles with Eleanor about kissing her in view of the test subjects since it's like he's dating his boss. He also says he wants to get horny with her while she says she wants to talk about philosophy. |
| 309 | * ObliviouslyEvil: In life, Chidi really tried to be a good person, but as Michael pointed out, his rigidity and indecisiveness made everyone around him suffer. |
| 310 | * OddFriendship: He and Jason couldn't be more different but they get along quite well and Jason even imparts some genuinely good advice to Chidi on occasion. |
| 311 | * OfficialCouple: With Eleanor, as demonstrated in Season 3. (And Michael made them soulmates.) |
| 312 | * OneTrueLove: No matter what Michael did, no matter what ridiculous permutations or scenarios he set up, Eleanor always found Chidi, always asked him for help, and he always helped her. |
| 313 | -->''There is no answer. But Eleanor is the answer.'' |
| 314 | * OOCIsSeriousBusiness: |
| 315 | ** During his nervous breakdown in "Jeremy Bearimy", Chidi started acting like ''Eleanor''. He put on a shirt without paying for it at a grocery store, bought a bunch of junk food, and then ranted to his students about how nothing matters and they should embrace nihilism and do what they want, and no exam since he's just going to eat candy chili. He only snaps out of it when Eleanor, in full HourglassPlot, convinces him they should do good anyway since it does matter. |
| 316 | ** He says that his college thesis was his life's work and everything he wanted to accomplish. Chidi is actually happy in Season 3 when the university fires him for having a nervous breakdown in front of the students. |
| 317 | * OppositesAttract: Chidi comes to realize that he's in love with Eleanor, who is a scatterbrained and amoral underachiever. |
| 318 | * OutOfFocus: For half of Season 4, ironically for the same reasons as why he was so central a character of the other seasons. |
| 319 | * PhraseCatcher: "This is why everyone hates moral philosophy professors" has been thrown his way more than once. |
| 320 | * PokeThePoodle: |
| 321 | ** His idea of being rebellious as a child was sneaking into his parents' study and reading the ''unabridged'' dictionary. Eleanor is dumbfounded that not only was that the worst he ever did as a kid, but he's also quietly proud of it. |
| 322 | ** On a similar note, at one point while disguised as a demon, he's pressed to come up with an especially bad torment. After he gets over his aversion to lying, he tells them to... force them to read books. |
| 323 | * ProperlyParanoid: Not that it helped him, but it turns out in Season 3 that his ethical paranoia over even the seemingly smallest actions (like drinking almond milk) was not unjustified. |
| 324 | * RedOniBlueOni: The Blue Oni to Jason and Eleanor's Red Oni. They are headstrong, impulsive, and, especially before CharacterDevelopment, very hedonistic, while Chidi is a levelheaded, cautious, and intellectual type and much more hesitant and thoughtful about his actions [[TheDitherer (to the point of paralyzing indecisiveness).]] |
| 325 | * RightForTheWrongReasons: A RunningGag is that whenever Chidi discovers that he is in the Bad Place, he thinks it is because he drank almond milk in-spite of how detrimental growing almonds is to the environment. In Season 3, it is revealed that long-term consequences for seemingly innocuous actions in a world as complex as 21st-century Earth have caused everyone who had died in the last 521 years to go to the Bad Place. So technically, Chidi ''did'' go to the Bad Place for drinking almond milk (among other things). |
| 326 | * RunningGag: During Seasons 1 and 2, whenever Chidi learns that he's in the Bad Place, he thinks that it's because he drank almond milk despite knowing about its negative environmental impacts. |
| 327 | * SecretKeeper: He's the first person Eleanor confesses to that she's not the person everyone else thinks she is. Since she made him promise not to betray her, he can't tell anyone else, so he tries to help her learn how to be a good person worthy of staying in the Good Place. |
| 328 | * SeenItAll: Literally, when he got all of his memories and reboots restored, including seeing the Time Knife. The two challenges that come closest to breaking Chidi's mind, "Jeremy Bearimy" and the Time Knife, no longer affect him, to the point that by the finale, [[spoiler:he makes a calendar out of the former, and gives a NoSell to the latter]]. |
| 329 | * ShirtlessScene: Gets shirtless in "Jeremy Bearimy" after embracing nihilism. |
| 330 | * SkewedPriorities: His inability to make a decision sometimes leads him to prioritize the trivial over the important. Just as an example, he missed his mother's back surgery because he was already committed to helping his landlord's nephew set up a new phone. |
| 331 | * SmartPeopleWearGlasses: He's a skilled teacher of moral philosophy, and he's worn glasses since he was a young boy. |
| 332 | * SpannerInTheWorks: No one expected Chidi to be as good of a teacher as he turns out to be. Eleanor genuinely turns over a new leaf and consequently completely screws up Michael's evil plan and forces him to bring in Shawn to try and salvage the situation. |
| 333 | * TheSpock: Of a sort. When he was alive, Chidi was obsessed with finding the most moral solution to every issue, even his romantic relationships, and believed everything else was secondary, even his own happiness. |
| 334 | * StrawNihilist: PlayedForLaughs in "Jeremy Bearimy". Chidi starts talking like this after he has a breakdown due to having learned about the afterlife. This includes quoting Creator/FriedrichNietzsche's "God is dead" speech, and telling all his students to become nihilists. |
| 335 | * StrawVulcan: Chidi's entire personality was born from the (false) assumption that everything can be explained through careful research, consistently weighing options and finding the objective truth with no heart to give it direction. This has made him a [[TheDitherer ditherer]] who could not make an easy decision no matter how simple or inconsequential for fear of making the wrong decision and the potential consequences of that failure. |
| 336 | * StylisticSuck: His attempt at writing his own philosophy book ended up as a 3600 page mess that was nearly indecipherable due to his inability to commit to any ideas and his attempts to be as logical and objective as possible. |
| 337 | * ThrowTheDogABone: As of "You've Changed, Man" it's revealed that [[spoiler:his point total did increase during the new experiment, and the Soul Squad trusts him enough to come up with a viable solution to reforming the afterlife. Which he does, with aplomb!]] |
| 338 | * TokenGoodTeammate: He's the most unambiguously nice of the main four, has no corrupt and selfish motives, and his indecision was rooted in good intentions; Michael even notes that Chidi was the closest to getting to the Good Place out of the original four humans (granted, not even ''remotely'' close enough to actually gain entry, but still, relatively close). On the other hand, Chidi ''saw'' what his obsessive indecisiveness did to the people around him yet made no effort to change. |
| 339 | * TomatoInTheMirror: Like Tahani. By the standards of the CelestialBureaucracy, he's a bad person, and therefore in the Bad Place. He had accepted the idea that they were in the Good Place because it validated his concept of himself as a good person. |
| 340 | * TrademarkFavoriteFood: Consistently shown to really like almond milk, even though he knows how bad it is for the environment. |
| 341 | * TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior: When picking teams for schoolyard games, he takes things like favoritism, gender politics, and privilege into account. Although his childhood behavior is mostly PlayedForLaughs, it takes a much more dramatic turn when we learn of the event that caused Chidi to become so obsessed with finding "the right answer" to every problem - [[spoiler:Chidi overheard his parents arguing & strongly hinting at a divorce when he was eight, and stayed up all night writing an ''hour long academic lecture'' on the reasons why they should stay together. This actually worked & his parents remained together, but it also had the unintended consequence of convincing the young Chidi that every problem has a "correct" solution, that he had a duty to find those solutions, and that the consequences for choosing incorrectly could be grave. Eleanor is the first person that we see actually point out the sad undercurrent of this story.]] |
| 342 | * UnderstandingBoyfriend: He's this with Eleanor after they actually fall for each other. A shining example is when she has a breakdown because their relationship seems too perfect, and he sits by her and gently assures her not to worry about the future too much. |
| 343 | * UnrequitedLoveSwitcheroo: Normally in a reboot, Eleanor is in love with him, and he can't decide if he wants to be with her. In one, shortly before Eleanor realized her soulmate's bad song was torture and "THIS is the Bad Place!" yet again, Chidi was upset when Eleanor left ethics class earlier to attend said soulmate's performance. |
| 344 | * WillNotTellALie: He wants to be unrelentingly honest because it's the ethical thing to do, which causes problems when the team has to lie their way through a Bad Place event. This also comes up when his former college professor buys bright red boots. Chidi is unable to hold back his honesty and calls the boots ugly right to his professors face making the professor quite upset. |
| 345 | * YankTheDogsChain: In at least one reboot and in the alternate timeline, he and Eleanor became a serious couple, and Eleanor admitted that she loved him. Michael undid the first relationship while taunting Eleanor and Chidi that their love wasn't real because he orchestrated it, and in the second Chidi willingly sacrifices his memories so that his previous relationship with Simone won't affect the experiment involving her soul in the fake neighborhood. |
| 346 | * YouAreWorthHell: He told Michael in the pet reboot that it didn't matter how they were tortured, because he and Eleanor are soulmates. In Season 3, he comforts Eleanor about the uncertainty of their future together by telling her she is worth it wherever they are, and Jeremy Bearimy means they have all of eternity to fall in love again. |
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| 348 | |
| 349 | [[folder:Tahani]] |
| 350 | !!Tahani Al-Jamil |
| 351 | [[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/al_jamil_tahani.jpg]] |
| 352 | [[caption-width-right:300:''"I would say I outdid myself, but I'm always this good. So I simply did myself."'']] |
| 353 | ->'''Portrayed by:''' Creator/JameelaJamil, Grace Anne Pullappally (young) |
| 354 | |
| 355 | ->''"You know, this really reminds me of my time in Vietnam, picking up mortar shells with my godmother, Diana. Doesn't really matter what she's a princess of. It's not really important."''\ |
| 356 | |
| 357 | A wealthy British socialite and Eleanor's next-door neighbor. She got into the Good Place by raising plenty of money for charity, and won't let anyone forget it. |
| 358 | ---- |
| 359 | * AbhorrentAdmirer: Downplayed, as she ''is'' physically attractive, but Tahani's brief attraction to Chidi at the end of season one is only met with his shock and confusion. |
| 360 | * AbusiveParents: Her parents heaped praise on her sister, while barely acknowledging any of her accomplishments, and belittling those they do. And they topped it all off by misspelling her name as "Tahini" ("like the sauce") in their will. |
| 361 | * TheAce: During her life, she raised $60 billion for non-profit groups and also worked as a museum curator, a fashion model, an "It Girl" and was Baz Luhrmann's muse. She frequently name-drops extremely famous celebrities as friends or people she's influenced, and when she does so in front of a truth-testing device, it confirms it as true. |
| 362 | * AccidentalHero: This happens twice, as a matter of fact. She's the reason that the Soul Squad got to see the Judge! When Eleanor jokingly said that Tahani would always ask to see the manager after the entire team was DrowningMySorrows, Tahani actually realizes it's a good idea. She says they should go see the Judge and plead their case. Cue about two years of Earth time where everyone realizes the morality system is broken, including Gen. The second time, Tahani while trying to help Jason and Janet with their feelings, vents to Michael about how her good intentions are undone by unexpected consequences. This leads to Michael's EurekaMoment on ''why'' the points system is broken. |
| 363 | * ActuallyPrettyFunny: She finds some humor in the fact that she failed her test before the Judge to talk to her parents, who aren't real, and they still talk about Kamilah. After they insult her weight and talk about her sister, Tahani smiles and says even in this scenario they haven't changed for the better. |
| 364 | * AffectionateNickname: Eleanor develops a habit of calling her "babe", especially in Season 4, when they've become close friends. |
| 365 | * AloneAmongTheCouples: A rare positive variation. [[spoiler:By the end of the series, she is the only member of the Soul Squad (excluding Michael) who is not in a romantic relationship. But considering her entire arc was about learning she doesn't need external validation to feel fulfilled, this is quite fitting.]] |
| 366 | * AlphaBitch: Tahani appears to be a grown-up version of this trope as per season one, as she hasn't fully outgrown the shallowness and quick scorn of adolescence. |
| 367 | * AlwaysSomeoneBetter: In spite of seeming to be almost insufferably perfect, she developed a deep inferiority complex because her sister Kamilah was even ''more'' successful and multi-talented, and her parents very openly played favorites. |
| 368 | * AmbiguouslyBi: She dates Jason in Season 2, but she sometimes gets quite affectionate with Eleanor, as well, and doesn't seem to mind the fact that Eleanor openly has a thing for her. The two were even made soulmates in at least one of the reboots, and from what little we saw, Tahani didn't seem averse to the idea of a female soulmate. |
| 369 | -->'''Eleanor:''' ''[translating Tahani's name]'' "Congratulations, beautiful."\ |
| 370 | '''Tahani:''' ''[smiling]'' Thanks, Eleanor. You big flirt. |
| 371 | * AttentionWhore: Tahani's many accomplishments were born from her insatiable desire for praise and recognition. She falls victim to this even when she ''knows'' the demons are using it to try and torture her. |
| 372 | * BadBadActing: Her initial attempts at acting like an average Joe during Team Cockroach's infiltration of the real Bad Place leaves a lot to be desired. She improves to the point of still being bad, but barely passable. |
| 373 | * TheBeautifulElite: Born into a wealthy English family, Tahani had access to the finest fashions and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1piIjRkAUec regularly mingled with high-name celebrities]]; to the point that her diary includes a foreword by Music/KylieMinogue and Malala Yousafzai. |
| 374 | * BigBreastPride: She has a BuxomBeautyStandard figure, something she points out with pride multiple times. |
| 375 | * BitchInSheepsClothing: In Season 1, she is implied to be quite judgmental and cruel, although she hides it well under her faux-polite demeanor. As the show progresses, she grows beyond this mindset, seeking to be genuinely good for the sake of it. |
| 376 | * BritishStuffiness: Her plummy British demeanor is often PlayedForLaughs. |
| 377 | -->'''Tahani:''' As us Brits are fond of saying: try your best to hide your sadness! |
| 378 | * BrokenAce: Tahani is a mess of self-esteem issues and is unable to handle being anything less than the best. She also hides her disappointment in being unable to connect with her soulmate Jianyu. And then there's her family... |
| 379 | * ButtMonkey: A downplayed example. While lauded by most everyone in the Good Place, Michael (who's consistently nice to everyone) often is frustrated by her narcissism and puts her down a lot. She's also spent virtually her entire life being mercilessly belittled, insulted, and talked down to by her own family. |
| 380 | * CallingTheOldManOut: She calls out a hypothetical version of her mother and father in "The Burrito", pointing out what lousy parents they were to her, and how doing everything they'd ''never'' approve of is what's finally made her happy. |
| 381 | * CharacterDevelopment: In Season 3, thanks to not losing her memories, she realizes that she wants to be good just for the sake of being good and not for any attention. Janet encourages her to make amends with Kamilah to save her sister from damnation, and Tahani realizes that blaming herself for their rivalry isn't the right way when their parents were "wankers". When she learns that Jason, who is her legal husband, was once married to Janet, she puts aside any mixed feelings she has about Jason and encouraged him to talk with Janet about it; while the actions backfired, it was very selfless of Tahani. Season 4 has her priming her StiffUpperLip to talk with her old harasser John, in the hopes of saving his soul in the new neighborhood. It all comes to a head in the final episode, where she dedicates her afterlife time to mastering multiple practical skills and then deciding to [[spoiler:forgo on passing through the final door to become an afterlife architect so she can apply her knowledge to helping the new souls that pass through the afterlife, becoming a true philanthropist]]. |
| 382 | * CombatPragmatist: When dragged into a brawl with demons, all of whom are skilled fighters, and many of whom are much bigger than Tahani (making physically overpowering them nearly impossible), she grabs a pool cue, boasting twelve years of fencing experience... and promptly beans a demon over the head with the stick, forgoing any flashy display of her skills in favor of just hitting him as hard as she possibly can. |
| 383 | -->'''Tahani:''' Obviously, I'd never do that during a competition. That'd be a three-tenths deduction! |
| 384 | * CompetitionFreak: A childhood plagued by resentment of her perfect younger sister, Kamilah, and a case of AbusiveParents, has led to Tahani being unhealthily obsessed with success, to the point where one failure (or second-place trophy) can result in a complete nervous breakdown. |
| 385 | * ConsistentClothingStyle: Tahani is always wearing long flowing dresses and gowns (if not in a floral pattern, then a bold solid color) to represent her wealth and femininity compared to Eleanor and Jason, who dress more casually. |
| 386 | * ConspicuousConsumption: She apparently wears bras made of gold. |
| 387 | -->'''Tahani:''' Darling, do you remember all the rules about what can and cannot be worn inside an MRI? More specifically, what if one's brassiere is very thin, but also very pure gold? |
| 388 | * DCupDistress: Her prodigious breasts are lampshaded by Tahani herself. |
| 389 | -->'''Tahani:''' Couture just doesn't fit my body. I'm cursed with ample bosom.\ |
| 390 | '''Eleanor:''' [[DeadpanSnarker And yet you soldier on.]] |
| 391 | * DesperatelyCravesAffection: Tahani is always fishing for compliments and praise from people due to being denied it by her parents. |
| 392 | * EvenTheGirlsWantHer: Aside from being considered attractive by most of the male characters on the show, Eleanor (who's implied to be [[AmbiguouslyBi bisexual]]) is shown to be somewhat turned on by her as well. |
| 393 | * {{Expy}}: During the first season, she's one for Estelle Rigault from ''Theatre/NoExit'', being a haughty socialite who never seems to fully realize [[InnocentlyInsensitive how grating she can be]], is repeatedly hit on by her female companion (Inès in ''No Exit'' and Eleanor in ''The Good Place''), and finds herself in a LoveTriangle over a cowardly French-speaker (Garcin in ''No Exit'' and Chidi in ''The Good Place''). After the events of the first season, though, she goes through CharacterDevelopment and quickly evolves beyond her similarities to Estelle. |
| 394 | * TheFashionista: Tahani is always seen wearing elegant dresses and cares about designer fashion, and when the neighborhood in emergency mode magically puts everyone in bright blue-yellow striped outfits her clothes is the first thing that reasserts itself as things go back to normal, in an apparent act of pure will on her part. That's right, Tahani's fashion sense is strong enough to warp reality. |
| 395 | -->'''Tahani:''' That was my first time as a Fashion Don't, and I did ''not'' care for it! |
| 396 | * FirstWorldProblems: Because she's an extremely wealthy socialite, she's rather out-of-touch. In the first season, she mentions her Bad Place torture would be being forced to wear a knockoff handbag and drink tap water. In the second season, she thinks her version of the Bad Place would be an eternity spent in the Swiss Alps during the off season, emphasizing "off-season" as if she was disgusted. Chidi (in the first instance) and Eleanor (in the second) react with disbelief. |
| 397 | -->'''Chidi:''' ''That's'' what you think Hell is?! |
| 398 | * [[{{Foil}} The Foil]]: Michael Schur remarked during casting, that they searched for an actress/character who could contrast Eleanor/Kirsten Bell in every way. So where Eleanor is petite, blonde, grubby and very uncouth, Tahani is tall, curvy, regal and effortlessly composed "like a brown Creator/GraceKelly." |
| 399 | * FreudianExcuse: Growing up with parents who refused to show affection or praise for anything while lavishing it on her sister, who was always the center of attention and actively contributed to Tahani's feelings of inferiority, would leave anyone with a serious complex. |
| 400 | * HeelRealization: She eventually realizes that all the good acts she's performed were rendered meaningless, because she only did them for praise and recognition, rather than because they were good deeds. Happens again a season later when the Bad Place is torturing her by making her throw unsuccessful parties, and she realizes that it's working, which makes her realize that she's a frivolous, prideful person. |
| 401 | * HeterosexualLifePartners: She and Eleanor become this in Season 4, while Eleanor is heartbroken about [[spoiler:Chidi losing his memories and having to stop Simone from destroying the neighborhood. Tahani insists on hugging her and constantly offers comfort. She tells Eleanor after getting her memories of the 802 reboots that she wants to be a better friend to her and hates how petty their rivalry was. Eleanor eventually admits that Tahani is her best friend in "The Funeral To End All Funerals"]]. |
| 402 | * HistoryWithCelebrity: Exaggerated [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1piIjRkAUec to the point of parody]]. Tahani can always find [[WeirdAside an opportunity]] to namedrop her famous friends and acquaintances even if the situation doesn't call for it, and the actions of afterlife beings like Michael and the Judge suggest that most, if not all, of these connections are real. To start with, she can apparently count UsefulNotes/DianaPrincessOfWales, Music/PaulMcCartney, Creator/MaggieSmith, Creator/SeanConnery, Frank Gehry, and ''Big Ben'' (yes, the clock) among her godparents. |
| 403 | * HoistByTheirOwnPetard: |
| 404 | ** Quite tragically, she died trying to bring down Kamilah's statue when her sister insulted her, after sneaking in and telling off Kamilah for not inviting her. What's worse is no one had the sense to stop her until Michael interfered in the new timeline. |
| 405 | ** In Michael's second attempt, Tahani gets a unique punishment fitting for the Bad Place: She must live the humble life she claims she always wanted, living in a crappy shack of a home, eating bad food and dressing in cargo pants. Her every attempted protest is cut off by Michael saying this is meant to be the humble and caring woman Tahani claimed to be so she has to bear it. |
| 406 | * HumiliationConga: The events leading up to her death were pretty bad, even by the standards of this show. First, she got an interview about an upcoming relief trip to Haiti she was taking... except all the interviewer wanted to talk about was Kamilah, even referring to Kamilah as an only child ''to Tahani's face''. We then find out Kamilah was being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (they decided to just waive the 25-year waiting period, because, [[ParodySue naturally]], Kamilah's album was ''that'' good), and Kamilah didn't even invite Tahani to the party. So, Tahani decided to dress up as a waitress and confront Kamilah. Kamilah mocked Tahani in front of all her friends, and said Tahani was just embarrassing herself, as always. When asked if that was really how she thought of Tahani, Kamilah simply said that she doesn't think of Tahani, period. Then Tahani turned around and saw a ''gold statue of Kamilah''. This proved to be the straw that broke the camel's back, and Tahani had a FreakOut and began to try and tear the statue down, in full view of the crowd, and succeeded… by bringing it down onto herself. To make matters worse, [[ComicallyMissingThePoint she died in Cleveland]]. |
| 407 | * IAmNotPretty: Played with. Tahani often mentions her attractiveness in conversations, and gives the impression of having quite a big head on her shoulders. However, other occasions show that Tahani is ''deeply'' insecure and jealous, and might merely be using her arrogant persona in order to cope with her lack of self-esteem. It doesn't help that her sister — who is often a point of envy for Tahani — is beautiful. |
| 408 | * IAmVeryBritish: She keeps her posh British accent in the afterlife, and Eleanor mocks it a few times. |
| 409 | * IChooseToStay: [[spoiler:She's the only one of Team Cockroach to ''not'' pass through the Last Door at the end of the series. Instead, she decides to become an Afterlife Architect like Michael to help other souls reach their ultimate potential.]] |
| 410 | * IdleRich: In season three, Tahani laments this, saying that due to her wealth and social affluence she's never been forced to gain any true skills (sans party-planning and the like), as opposed to Eleanor's inherent scrappiness. |
| 411 | * IJustWantToBeLoved: Ultimately, this is the crux of her problems. Even though she had many friends and admirers, lived an incredibly exciting life, and has a list of accomplishments that most people could never dream of achieving a ''fraction'' of, Tahani wasn't ever really happy. All she wanted was to gain the same level of recognition and appreciation that Kamilah got, especially from their parents. It's hard not to wonder if Tahani would've turned out this way if her mother and father had raised her with love and affection. Towards the end of Season 2, Tahani begins to make steps towards growing out of this issue. She breaks up with Jason so she can learn to stand on her own two feet, and finally accepts that her parents would ''never'' treat her well, no matter what she did -- and that's ''their'' problem, not hers. The reason why she and Eleanor have a better relationship in Season 3 is because Eleanor is the first person to not praise Kamilah in Tahani's presence, and who admits that she needs the Brainy Bunch as much as Tahani needs true companionship. |
| 412 | * InferioritySuperiorityComplex: Tahani is always praising herself, to the point of annoying Eleanor and Michael. She is thrown for a loop when she discovers she's second-to-last in the rankings of everyone in the Good Place and puts herself in danger by abandoning the curfew Michael set up to fix the sinkhole to help them out. The fact that all her charitable works were done in the name of self-aggrandizement rather than altruism got her sent to the Bad Place. |
| 413 | * InformedAttribute: Jameela Jamil is certainly a tall woman (1.8 m), but the show has lots of jokes that make it sound as though she towers over ''everybody'' (as in [=S04E12=], "Patty," where she says that she feels like Dorothy arriving in Oz, as she's taller than everybody else). She doesn't -- for instance, she shares many scenes with 6-foot-2 Michael and Janet, who's a mere inch shorter. {{Justified|Trope}}, as her height is apparently a point of pride for Tahani herself, so she understandably milks it. |
| 414 | * InnocentlyInsensitive: Has a habit of doing this, talking to Eleanor about "belonging" in the Good Place while unaware she doesn't, and throwing a happy retirement party for Michael before learning that retirement for Architects is [[AndIMustScream not pleasant]] and that the pinata she made of him happens to be in extremely poor taste. More seriously, in Season 3 she gets married to Jason to share her money with him after they all get condemned to the Bad Place... completely forgetting she's engaged to Larry, who shows up with their suitcases to go to the airport. |
| 415 | * IronicDeath: |
| 416 | ** It's finally revealed in "Team Cockroach" she died crushed under a massive gold statue of her sister. [[ComicallyMissingThePoint She's most upset about the fact that it happened in Cleveland.]] |
| 417 | ** In a variation, [[spoiler:after a life--and several afterlives--of wealth, privilege, and only doing good deeds for praise, she ends the series not by passing through the Last Door, but instead deciding to become an Architect herself. She starts at the very bottom of the company as an intern and plans to truly help others because it's the right thing to do.]] |
| 418 | * ItsAllAboutMe: |
| 419 | ** Downplayed. Most of her warm philanthropic appearance is a front and she greatly values surface gloss and receiving praise, but she is capable of acknowledging other peoples' feelings (even if it takes her a bit of a run-up). |
| 420 | ** A recurring problem for Eleanor and Chidi in Season 1 is Tahani trying to force "Jianyu" to break his vow of silence, not caring about his apparent view on the matter. When it looks like he has started speaking, Tahani leaps to the assumption that Eleanor and Chidi did this as a surprise for her. After that, she assumes she and Chidi are soul-mates, declares her love for him, and never once considers he doesn't return the feelings (as Eleanor points out, her declaration is more ''telling'' him he loves her than anything else). |
| 421 | * JerkassHasAPoint: The way everyone ignores her in order to gush about her sister Kamilah would give most people a serious complex. And despite her selfish motives, Tahani did accomplish some truly remarkable things through hard work and dedication yet everyone was always fixated on Kamilah. Plus Kamilah is a very callous and self-centered person as well. |
| 422 | * JerkassRealization: |
| 423 | ** In the first season finale, it finally hits her that she's in the Bad Place because all her "charity work" was just for attention and her own ego rather than helping others. |
| 424 | ** In "Team Cockroach", Michael shows Tahani that she died by accidentally crushing herself beneath her sister's statue, in a juvenile attempt to deal with her envy, rather than going to Haiti to help with the relief efforts like she planned. It makes Tahani truly realize that all the good things she did while she was alive were just for the attention and an attempt to measure up to Kamilah. Breaking down at the fact she wasted her life, she now wants to learn to be the woman she always believed she was. |
| 425 | ** She gets her memories [[spoiler:of the reboots back in "Employee of the Bearimy" and tells Eleanor expressly that she wants to be a better friend to her. Tahani admits that she wasn't very nice in the first timeline and wants to treat Eleanor better]]. |
| 426 | * TheLancer: To Eleanor. Both of them are [[{{Foil}} stark contrasts]] to one another in personality and also ultimately gain a {{Heterosexual Life Partners}}-style dynamic after undergoing 802 reboots together in Michael's Fake Neighborhood. |
| 427 | * LimitedWardrobe: Almost always wears sundresses, often with floral patterns and typically yellow, red or purple. |
| 428 | * LonelyRichKid: She grew up very wealthy but with parents who showed her zero affection or kindness, and a younger sister who was raised to be her competition and superior. |
| 429 | * LovableAlphaBitch: She was the social center of the Good Place during her initial stay there, and while she is very self-centered, she does care about her friends and will do what she can to help them. |
| 430 | * MeaningfulName: Lampshaded by her. In Arabic, Tahani means 'congratulations' and Al-Jamil is 'beautiful', so her full name means 'congratulations, beautiful'. |
| 431 | * MsFanservice: An non-exploitative example, with her almost always wearing very flattering [[CostumePorn and ornate]] outfits that show off how pretty she is without serving only as fodder for the MaleGaze. It's even amusingly lampshaded at one point early on into Season 2, when Eleanor freely admits that despite hating Tahani at that point in the series, [[EvenTheGirlsWantHer she's also very attracted to her]]. |
| 432 | * MsViceGirl: As condescending, arrogant, and shallow as she is, Tahani's too kindhearted to really qualify as a JerkWithAHeartOfGold, and she did do a whole lot of good. Yes, her motivations were corrupt, but she still helped a ''lot'' of people when she was alive. |
| 433 | * NiceGirl: |
| 434 | ** Played with. One has to be one by default to get into the Good Place, and Tahani raised millions for charity on top of that. Eleanor initially suspects this to be a front, but finds that while Tahani is [[InnocentlyInsensitive obliviously condescending and self-absorbed]], she is genuinely well-meaning, compassionate and sweet. However, she is still a bit too snobbish and SecretlySelfish to be a truly straight example. |
| 435 | ** It's played straighter in Season 3 where after all the Soul Sqaud gets condemned, she decides to give her money away to charity and people on the street -- the latter at Jason's suggestion -- and resolves to do good for the same of being good rather than trying to measure up to Kamliah. While she still reverts to childish behavior in her sister's presence, she manages to settle their rivalry. When Eleanor confesses about how she has feelings for Chidi after learning they were a couple in the fake Good Place, Tahani gives her kind advice to tell Chidi if Eleanor wants to date him again, and assumes they must have all been friends in the fake neighborhood. Eleanor doesn't have the heart to tell the truth. |
| 436 | * NoSenseOfPersonalSpace: Early on, aside from the many innocently insensitive comments she makes, Tahani had a habit of "booping" Eleanor on the nose, which Eleanor really doesn't like. She drops this in Season 3. |
| 437 | * NotSoDifferentRemark: |
| 438 | ** Both she and Eleanor just wanted to be loved by their parents and the actions they took because of that lack of love drove them to the behavior that sent them to the Bad Place. They bond over this in season 3 when Tahani pays for Eleanor's flight to Arizona to confront her mother. |
| 439 | ** Part of the reason why and Larry Hemsworth rekindled their relationship and got engaged is because they both have been overshadowed by their siblings and feel like no one appreicates their accomplishments. They even share a laugh over it when Michael and Janet orchestrate their meeting. |
| 440 | ** She also realizes that while John was skulking on his website, jealous and miserable and with no real friends, she was jet-setting with the beautiful elite...while being jealous and miserable and with no real friends. It inspires her to start genuinely reaching out to him. |
| 441 | * OppositesAttract: Tahani, the rich and sophisticated socialite, gets together with the dimwitted and immature Jason in Season 2. |
| 442 | ** Across the various reboots, she gets paired as supposed "soul mates" with Jason, Eleanor, and Chidi. And goes with it with no objections every time. |
| 443 | * OvershadowedByAwesome: While considered one of the most talented and sophisticated people in the Good Place, Tahani all through her life was constantly outdone by her sister Kamilah. It got so bad that a reporter interviewing Tahani about her accomplishments starts asking questions about Kamilah instead and completely forgets about Tahani, to the point where she mistakenly identifies Kamilah as an only child! It's indicated the only reason her death is memorable at all is because she was crushed by a gold statue of her sister. In Cleveland. |
| 444 | * ParodySue: Tahani is initially presented as one when her many achievements are first detailed, but it's subverted when it is revealed that she is ''incredibly'' spoiled and self-centered. All her efforts were just a way to show to her parents that she was just as good as her younger sister Kamilah, who is the ''real'' Parody Sue and who outdoes Tahani in every possible area. |
| 445 | * PungeonMaster: Enjoys naming her baked goods and desserts with themed puns. For example, at Michael's retiring party she had on display 'Retire-Mint' chocolate cake and 'Flan Voyage', and made donut holes when Michael and Janet were attempting to fix the giant sinkhole. |
| 446 | * ProudBeauty: She's well-aware of her own attractiveness and is overall rather vain about it. |
| 447 | * RageBreakingPoint: Kamilah is the only person who can inspire this out of her; Tahani and Eleanor will bicker, but Eleanor will never hurt her as much as her sister did. Tahani died after having a breakdown at Kamilah's latest party, snapping when her sister insulted her and called her out for making a scene. She tried to bring down a statue of Kamilah, only for it to crush her. In the new timeline, Tahani gets furious when Kamilah continues to insult her two years after said incident -- one which snapped Tahani out of her breakdown-- and won't talk about their shared trauma, bringing a fire ax to break a table. |
| 448 | * RefusingParadise: Played with: [[spoiler:Although the series ends with the four main characters ending up in the Good Place, Tahani ultimately decides not to head through the Last Door at the end of the afterlife, electing instead to become an Architect like Michael so that she can spend eternity helping people who need guidance.]] |
| 449 | * RichKidTurnedSocialActivist: In season three, after [[spoiler:finding out about the points system in the afterlife]], she decides to focus on becoming a better person for the sake of it, leading her to become something of this trope. |
| 450 | ** This trope reaches its apex in the GrandFinale, when [[spoiler:she first spends her time in the Good Place learning practical skills. Then, she chooses ''not'' to walk through the Last Door and instead decides to help with the reformation of the afterlife by becoming an Architect herself, even taking the position of an intern so she can truly learn the ropes.]] |
| 451 | * RightlySelfRighteous: Much to Eleanor's chagrin, Tahani is a genuinely nice and caring person even if she can be a little condescending and boastful. |
| 452 | * RunningGag: Tahani drops names at least thrice per episode, mentioning places she visit, things she did and how she is related to several celebrities. |
| 453 | * SecretlySelfish: The many good deeds she performed in her life were negated by the fact that she only did them to gain attention and try to outdo her sister. |
| 454 | * SheepInSheepsClothing: Tahani is more than a little self-righteous and obliviously condescending, but otherwise every bit as kind as she appears, despite Eleanor's suspicions. Tahani is so convinced that she is a good person that even she is shocked when she realizes her flaws, and it becomes the launching point for her character arc. |
| 455 | * ShipperOnDeck: In Season 3, she encourages Eleanor to confess her feelings for Chidi. She's horrified on realizing that that if Chidi wipes his memories, then he won't remember Eleanor. |
| 456 | * SilkHidingSteel: Played with; she often acts like this, but it turns out that she's much more emotionally fragile than she appears to be. In Season 3, she reveals that she can knock out a demon with a pool cue if her friends are in danger. |
| 457 | * SitcomArchnemesis: As Eleanor's plummy, seemingly perfect, upper class neighbor who is more than a little boastful and self-righteous, Tahani ''really'' gets on Eleanor's nerves. Turns out to have been invoked, as Michael expected that they'd grate on each other. It becomes subverted in Season 3, where Eleanor is kind to her during their "first" meeting on Earth, and they truly become friends. Come Season 4, they're working together to run the new experiment and Tahani insists on [[spoiler:comforting Eleanor after Chidi gets his memories wiped]]. |
| 458 | * SkewedPriorities: Tahani has a tendency to latch on to pointless details. For example, when Eleanor explains what's going on with the Good Place, Tahani's only response is when Eleanor states Chidi doesn't love her. |
| 459 | * SlaveToPR: Ultimately, Tahani's philanthropy and good deeds were all to look good and outdo her younger sister. |
| 460 | -->'''Tahani:''' I was ''supposed'' to be in Haiti being photographed helping people... |
| 461 | * SlidingScaleOfBeauty: She's of the Level II, World-Class variety, bordering on Divine level despite being a mortal human. Eleanor is conventionally beautiful and frequently owns her hotness; Janet is a very pleasant-featured not-lady who also knows she's pretty. But Tahani's drop-dead gorgeousness is an omnipresent aspect of her life and character, to the point that a Good Place employee — who, according to Michael's description of the show's supernatural entities, shouldn't even be able to identify physical attractiveness by human standards — is stunned by her beauty (and Jason's!). |
| 462 | * SoBeautifulItsACurse: Played for laughs. Tahani mourns not being able to wear haute couture because of her large cup size, and her pores are ''so'' miniscule that that leave-on face masks don't stick to her skin. |
| 463 | * {{Socialite}}: She was this in life; she spent her days mingling with the upper class and raising money for charity. |
| 464 | * SpoiledSweet: Zigzagged. Though Eleanor believed her to be a rich BitchInSheepsClothing, Tahani reveals herself to be kind and generous who used to her wealth to benefit the needy and all sorts of charity groups. Though it turns out that Eleanor wasn't entirely wrong; Tahani did those things to inflate her own ego, which is why she's in The Bad Place. However, when her memories are rebooted and she (re)learns the true nature of the afterlife in Season 3 she becomes genuinely devoted to helping people, to the point of straight-up handing out wads of cash to people on the street. |
| 465 | * StatuesqueStunner: |
| 466 | ** Is acknowledged by everyone--including Eleanor, who calls her a "sexy skyscraper" despite herself--to be very attractive, and at one point Eleanor acknowledges that Tahani "has legs for days." Jameela Jamil was a former model and is the second tallest member of the main cast; Tahani is taller than Jason and Chidi. |
| 467 | --->'''Tahani''': I'm just a girl, towering over a boy, asking him to admit he loves me. |
| 468 | ** Tahani's height is evidently a [[ProudBeauty point of pride]] for her; the Bad Place even [[ExploitedTrope exploits]] this in the first reboot by claiming her soulmate is a man a head shorter than her. |
| 469 | * StepfordSmiler: Her flashbacks make it clear that, for all her wealth, sophistication, and fame, she was ''not'' a happy person. Of course, looking at her family and the way everyone treated her in comparison to Kamilah, it's not hard to see why. It gets better in the afterlife, when she meets the others. |
| 470 | * StylishSunhats: Tahani Al-Jamil (an extremely wealthy philanthropist) has a sunhat she wears out on occasions with some of her fashionable outfits. |
| 471 | * SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome: Suffers from this due to living her entire life in her sister Kamilah's shadow. |
| 472 | * SugarAndIcePersonality: In season one, her personality was a good mix of genuine, well-intentioned (albeit sometimes condescending) kindness and jealous hostility. She appears to outgrow this trope during later seasons, though. |
| 473 | * SupremeChef: In Season 1, she was always baking and Eleanor admitted her cooking was good. This trait was dropped in the next few seasons. |
| 474 | * TakeAThirdOption: [[spoiler:How she ends the series: she doesn't want to stay in the Good Place any longer, but she also doesn't want to pass through the Last Door. Instead, she opts to learn how to become an Architect (the first human to ''ever'' do so) and design afterlives for others to genuinely help them improve so they can reach the Good Place, too.]] |
| 475 | * TomatoInTheMirror: By the standards of the CelestialBureaucracy, she's a bad person, and therefore in the Bad Place. She had accepted the idea that they were in the Good Place because it validated her concept of herself as a good person. |
| 476 | * TomboyAndGirlyGirl: The Girly Girl to Eleanor's Tomboy. Tahani is warm-hearted, has a feminine fashion sense, and is a social butterfly while Eleanor is a blunter {{Ladette}}. |
| 477 | * UndignifiedDeath: Being crushed to death by a giant statue of her hated sister, as a direct consequence of her own actions, with the public fully seeing what a petty, selfish person she really was. Tahani, being Tahani, misses the point of the story. |
| 478 | -->'''Tahani:''' Oh no... I died... in ''Cleveland''? |
| 479 | * TheUnfavourite: All but outright stated to be the case. Her parents had unrealistic expectations for Tahani, unfavourably comparing her to Kamilah. When they died, they even misspelled her name in the will, calling her Tahini ("Like the sauce."). |
| 480 | * UpperClassEquestrian: Tahani mentions that of course she had a stable full of horses growing up, but they were only ever used to pull carriages and perform in horse ballets (dressage). Nevertheless, this is yet another posh and upper-class detail to her life. |
| 481 | * UpperClassTwit: A spoiled but good-natured and intelligent version, but on occasion, Tahani shows this aspect of herself, such as her idea of Hell being a vacation to the Alps in the off-season or being forced to wear a knockoff handbag, or considering marrying a duke "dallying below my station", or showing disdainful or dismissive attitudes towards working class type occupations ("I'm not a factory worker."). |
| 482 | * UptightLovesWild: In Season 2, she's the "uptight" to Jason's "wild". |
| 483 | * WealthyPhilanthropist: Born into an upper-crust British Pakistani family, she seemingly got into The Good Place by raising plenty of money for humanitarian causes. |
| 484 | * WellDoneDaughterGirl: Ultimately all her issues stem from never winning her parents' approval. In "The Burrito", she faces off against her parents one last time during her test, and finally gets closure, realizing she will never gain their approval over Kamilah, and she is better off not trying. |
| 485 | [[/folder]] |
| 486 | |
| 487 | [[folder:Jason/Jianyu]] |
| 488 | !!Jason Mendoza/Jianyu Li |
| 489 | [[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mendoza_jason.jpg]] |
| 490 | [[caption-width-right:300:''"I'm ranking my favorite ''Film/TheFastAndTheFurious'' movies. You said you wanted to know who I am, and this is the best way to get to know me."'']] |
| 491 | ->'''Portrayed by:''' Creator/MannyJacinto |
| 492 | |
| 493 | ->''"Yo, you should listen to me! I came up with hundreds of plans in my life and only one of them got me killed."''\ |
| 494 | |
| 495 | A Buddhist monk and Tahani's soulmate who took a vow of silence during his time on Earth, and continues to do so in the Good Place. Or so the other characters believe. In actuality, he's a "pre-successful" DJ and small-time criminal from Florida. Also quite possibly one of the dumbest people who has ever lived. |
| 496 | ---- |
| 497 | * AbsurdPhobia: He's afraid of the film ''WesternAnimation/{{Ratatouille}}'' because he's scared by the concept of a rat crawling into his hair and forcing him to do stuff. |
| 498 | * AchievementInIgnorance: During "Janets", Jason figures out how to use his temporary Janet powers with ease, while Eleanor has repeated problems with them. |
| 499 | * AdmiringTheAbomination: During Season 4 when Glenn returns to tell the Soul Squad that Michael is actually Vicky in a Michael-suit, Eleanor tells Michael to remove his suit. He refuses because his true form is a gigantic fire squid and is worried that the humans will look at him differently, but Jason is all-too excited to see his true form. |
| 500 | * AffablyEvil: Not "evil" exactly, but he's a lot more outwardly friendly than his criminal past would suggest. He drops this characterization in season 3 after he joins the Brainy Bunch. |
| 501 | * TheAllSolvingHammer: He invariably suggests a Molotov cocktail as the solution to any situation the group faces. As he puts it, as soon as you use one, your problem gets replaced by a different problem. |
| 502 | * AmbiguouslyBi: Jason had multiple flings with Tahani, had no problem suggesting getting married to his male best friend, and eventually got into a lifelong relationship with the NonHumanNonBinary femme-presenting Janet. |
| 503 | * AscendedMeme: Jason and his friends ''are'' Florida Man. They are all incredibly stupid criminals who do every drug and never, ever realize how extreme they are. |
| 504 | -->'''Eleanor:''' Are you from Florida?\ |
| 505 | '''Jason:''' Jacksonville! |
| 506 | * AsianAirhead: Jason is so very dumb. For starters, he thinks the Good Place might be an alien zoo or a highly elaborate prank show. Also mispronounces ethics as "ethnics." He only avoided giving himself away immediately by pretending to be silent, and as soon as he starts speaking again, he almost ruins his and Eleanor's chances of staying in the Good Place. He also thinks [[EskimosArentReal penguins aren't real]]. |
| 507 | -->'''Eleanor:''' ''[to Jason]'' Does your brain work, actually? Do you have a functioning head? |
| 508 | * AtrociousAlias: His stage name was "DJ Mr. Music." DJ Music for short. He also tries going by "Jake Jortles" instead of "Blake Bortles" when it's already known that he's obsessed with Bortles and it might blow his cover. |
| 509 | * AttentionDeficitOohShiny: Jason has the attention span of a goldfish, which is not helped by his lack of intelligence. At one point, Eleanor gets him to stop hindering their discussion by having Janet give him a sparkler to play with. |
| 510 | * TheBabyOfTheBunch: Played with. Although the humans on Team Cockroach are all around the same age, everyone is significantly nicer and more patient with Jason, mostly because he's basically a ten-year-old in a thirty-year-old's body. Notable examples include Michael ordering Janet to give him a Pikachu balloon to distract himself with, and Eleanor almost always calling him "bud," especially whenever she needs him to get serious (much like how one would talk with a child). |
| 511 | * BerserkButton: Although Jason is normally too goofy and self-absorbed to get truly upset or angry, he does get very irritated when Tahani keeps calling him Jianyu long after he's stopped hiding his real identity. |
| 512 | * BewareTheNiceOnes: Eleanor acknowledges that he's the nicest of the Soul Squad in due part to being too stupid to be a jerk. But in Season 2 he was instrumental to helping them escape the museum with a MolotovCocktail, and in Season 4 [[spoiler:he figures out a Bad Janet replaced our Janet, slapping magnetic handcuffs on her before Michael could turn himself into goo. When Tahani is terrified for our Janet being in the Bad Place and being tortured, still alive but conscious, Jason gets a KubrickStare and gives a BadassBoast: he's going to go to the Bad Place, punch Shawn in the mouth, and rescue Janet. Then he and Michael pull it off]]! |
| 513 | * BlueAndOrangeMorality: He sees no problem with committing robbery and other serious crimes, but he has an extremely strong moral objection to lying or pretending to be someone else, to the point that he still struggles with it even if it's the only way to avoid eternal damnation. |
| 514 | * BookDumb: Much is made of his lack of applicable knowledge and how it impacts his life (even being what ended it), but he's still gained a lot of life experience to be StreetSmart and is capable of surprising intelligence on occasion. |
| 515 | * BrainlessBeauty: Jason is definitely not the brightest of people, but [[StupidSexyFriend as Eleanor notes]] multiple times, he's pretty easy on the eyes. In fact, his combination of good looks and earnest innocence eventually gets him caught in the center of the show's first legitimate LoveTriangle. |
| 516 | * CallingParentsByTheirName: As part of their carefree Floridian nature, Jason refers to his dad by his name Donkey Doug. He tries calling him Donkey Dad during a father-son bonding moment but the two of them decide it doesn't sound as nice. |
| 517 | * CallingYourAttacks: PlayedForLaughs. Yells out "BORTLES!" (referencing Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback Blake Bortles) when he throws a Molotov in both his flashback and in "Mindy St. Claire". Gets a CallBack in "Rhonda, Diana, Jake, and Trent;" When posing as "Jake Jortles," he yells "JORTLES!" |
| 518 | * CelebCrush: Apparently thinks Music/ArianaGrande is the sexiest woman alive. He also wishes they were related. |
| 519 | * ChaoticStupid: Jason comes damn close to defining this alignment, having zero impulse control and a general inability to think of the consequences to his actions. |
| 520 | * CharacterCatchphrase: "Aw, dip", used in moments of realization. "The Ballad of Donkey Doug" suggests he got it, and "BORTLES", from Donkey Doug. |
| 521 | * CharacterDevelopment: It only really sticks in Season 3, but after his near-death experience, he becomes more introspective and empathetic towards others. He turns down a dance manager --Michael in disguise-- because he wants to fix his life and find his purpose. Then he manages to assess that saving his father from damnation is impossible but he can still save his best friend. In Season 4, when trying to [[spoiler:save his relationship with Janet after murdering Derek]], Michael gives him a gentle lecture about not being so impulsive and reminding him why he got condemned the first time. Generally, throughout season 4 he shows a more empathetic and thoughtful side. |
| 522 | * TheCharmer: Jason is very charismatic. He led a sixty person dance crew solely through it and later has no issue charming both Janet and Tahani and even reaching Gen where others had failed. And unlike most examples, his charm is completely sincere. |
| 523 | * ChekhovsSkill: MolotovCocktail-making. Introduced in "Jason Mendoza", used to stall a room full of demons chasing Team Cockroach in "Rhonda, Diana, Jake, and Trent". Also used as a FailedAttemptAtDrama at the end of "Mindy St. Claire". |
| 524 | * CloudCuckoolander: Has only the vaguest idea what's going on around him at any given time. |
| 525 | * CombatPragmatist: When the going gets tough, Jason doesn't waste any time before starting to chuck pool balls at his opponents' heads. [[spoiler:When rescuing Janet from the Bad Place, he made it a point to pack a not-lie detector that turns demons into goo, so as to make their escape easier]]. |
| 526 | * ComicallyMissingThePoint: Jason only has a vague idea of what's going on around him at any given point, frequently played for laughs. When the humans infiltrate the real Bad Place and come across some (very cover-blowing) animatronics of themselves, he's thrilled by the sight and seems indifferent to both the danger and the unflattering portrayal the animatronics present. |
| 527 | * TheCuckoolanderWasRight: Though he's usually spouting nonsense, Jason has occasional moments where something he says becomes relevant later in the episode or season. |
| 528 | * CrazyJealousGuy: When they're creating the second neighborhood, Jason is very uncomfortable with Derek being around his girlfriend Janet. |
| 529 | * CrazyPrepared: When Michael bluntly told him that a MolotovCocktail wouldn't work when [[spoiler:infiltrating the Bad Place, Jason reveals he packed the not-lie detector to turn demons into goo]]. |
| 530 | * CultureEqualsCostume: |
| 531 | ** He's a Buddhist monk, and thus wears their traditional robes around the Good Place. Justified (since they're not supposed to really have worldly possessions). Once the truth about him comes to light he starts dressing like a bro, although he does put on the robes when fooling the demons. |
| 532 | ** Filipino fans have noticed that [[https://images.summitmedia-digital.com/townandcountry/images/gallery/7558/manny-jacinto-7.jpg one of his other main ensembles in the afterlife]] looks ''heavily'' inspired by [[https://pinayboutique.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/s-l5001.jpg the barong Tagalog]]. Strangely, he gets to wear this even before he reveals he's actually of Filipino descent InUniverse and no one realizes the outfit belongs to another culture, although that may be a testament to [[DumbassHasAPoint his point]] that "[[InterchangeableAsianCultures Heaven is so racist]]". |
| 533 | * DarkAndTroubledPast: [[PlayedForLaughs One which Jason is all too flippant about, though]]. {{Lampshaded}} when he facetiously mentions a depressing or horrifying thing from his past, and the camera pans to other people looking aghast, usually with an equally apt one-liner or two. For example, he very casually drops a reference to sexual abuse being perpetrated by teachers in a school he once attended during his wedding to Tahani. Not to mention, when he was young, he lost his mom to [[TheTopicOfCancer the big C]]... [[BaitAndSwitch which was what they called the crocodile that lived by his house.]][[note]][[DoubleSubversion Except that it actually was cancer.]][[/note]] |
| 534 | * TheDitz: Jason is really carefree. After several weeks in the Good Place, he thinks they might have been abducted by aliens, he doesn't see why he should make an effort to avoid going to the Bad Place even after having it explained to him multiple times, and once he ''does'' understand, he assumes that Chidi's "ethnics" class works like regular school, complete with football and a prom. It's to the point that his Bad Place museum animatronic caricature literally only introduces himself and says "duhhhhhhhh", [[InsultBackfire which real Jason thinks is hilarious]]. |
| 535 | * DivineDate: Jason, an ordinary human being, falls in love with Janet, an anthropomorphized, omniscient, immortal vessel of all knowledge in the universe. |
| 536 | * DumbassHasAPoint: Jason may be the dumbest human being on the planet, but even he can have flashes of brilliance every now and then. |
| 537 | ** In Chapter 13, when they're arguing about who should go to the Bad Place, Jason points out that he's the only one who hasn't been causing problems for anyone since they all came to the Good Place. |
| 538 | ** Jason also realizes he was right that this "Heaven" was really a prank show, and Eleanor even high-fives him on it. |
| 539 | ** In one of the many "reboots" of Neighborhood 12358W, it was Jason who figured out they are actually in the Bad Place. The idea that even '''Jason''' was able to outsmart him gave Michael heartburn out of sheer frustration. |
| 540 | --->'''Michael:''' Jason figured it out? ''Jason?'' This is a real low point. Yeah, this one hurts. ''Ow.'' |
| 541 | ** Every once in a while he comes up with a helpful insight, but these moments are buried deep within rambling stories about the things he got up to when he was still alive. |
| 542 | --->'''Jason:''' ...I framed one innocent gator dealer to save a 60-person dance crew.\ |
| 543 | '''Chidi:''' Shockingly, that ''is'' a relevant example of the Utilitarian dilemma. Well done. |
| 544 | ** In Season 3 Chapter 11, he manages to effectively explain to the Judge how difficult it can be for humans to make good decisions while also juggling the problems of normal life. |
| 545 | ** In the Season 4 premiere he is the first person to realize Eleanor is [[spoiler:going too far in torturing Chidi]]. |
| 546 | ** A flashback in Season 4 shows that he gave Chidi advice about living in the moment, not agonizing over every decision, and making choices based on what he wants and feels. In another episode, he helps Chidi get over being an InsecureLoveInterest for Eleanor. |
| 547 | ** Invoked in Season 2, Episode 11, where he suggests that [[ItMakesSenseInContext the burrito is the Judge]]. He turns out to be wrong, but Eleanor points out that a lot of weird things have happened up to that point, and a burrito judge would be downright normal by comparison. |
| 548 | * DumbIsGood: Downplayed. While Jason has done many ''not'' good things (such as committing crimes), he doesn't consider them to be too wrong and too underprivileged to really know better, so the show gives him more of a pass. That said, his genuine character flaws and need to improve are pointed out. |
| 549 | * DumbMuscle: Jason is ripped and is generally the first to choose violence as a solution, but he's very, very book dumb. |
| 550 | * ExtremeOmnivore: Eleanor once watched him eat electrical tape off the roll because he thought it was a Fruit by the Foot that had gone bad. Tahani also had to teach him not to eat candles just because they smell good. |
| 551 | * EveryoneHasStandards: |
| 552 | ** It shows that when he is dating someone, he will always be kind to them and even make them breakfast -- at least, cereal. Janet can't eat, but she tells Jason that she fell in love with him because he was nice to her when she was rebooting and didn't know anything. Tahani is won over in Season 2 when he cheers her up after the demons succeeded in torturing her. |
| 553 | ** Even at his dumbest, he's AboveTheInfluence. In Season 3 when Trevor tried to send him and Tahani away in a taxi after they had drunk several rounds of beer, Jason made sure that Tahani got safely to her hotel room and spent the night in a dumpster, rejecting all of her drunken advances. He also happily stepped aside when she reconnected with Larry Hemsworth. |
| 554 | ** When trying to save him from damnation, Jason rather bluntly explains that giving Donkey Doug money wouldn't help his situation, as he'd just spend it all. |
| 555 | * {{Fanboy}}: A huge fan of things [[{{Manchild}} you'd expect a teenage boy to be into]]. He loves the ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'' movies, or at least the first one (since it's the only one he references). Also, ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'': Michael's idea of a gift for him is a Pikachu balloon, which he's overjoyed to see. He also says ranking the ''Film/TheFastAndTheFurious'' films is the best way to get to know him. He's also a diehard fan of the Jacksonville Jaguars, particularly quarterback Blake Bortles. |
| 556 | * {{Foil}}: |
| 557 | ** Most directly to Chidi, to their mutual benefit. Chidi being BookSmart and contemplative helps Jason be more outright ethical and rational, while Jason being StreetSmart and impulsive helps Chidi finally become decisive in his decisions and secure in his relationships. |
| 558 | ** Jason can also be a mirror of Eleanor, due to similar circumstances, but differing conditions: |
| 559 | *** They both grew up in low-class neighborhoods, but whereas Eleanor had zero love from her parents and had to grow up quickly, Jason grew up in a loving family, but never emotionally matured while he was alive. |
| 560 | *** Eleanor became selfish and immoral as a survival mechanism, never wanting to have to rely on anyone, or be relied on. Jason, meanwhile, is more ''amoral'' and more social, living in and relying on a close-knit community of family and friends who happen to share his ethical shortcomings. |
| 561 | *** Eleanor, directly or indirectly, caused a lot of problems for people (being a scam artist that might have gotten people killed with fake medicine; causing a laundromat to file bankruptcy while she reaped the benefits from the fallout) while Jason's crimes were pretty petty in nature, and not a whole lot in terms of collateral damage. |
| 562 | * AFoolForAClient: He would represent himself in court, against the advice of the judge... and get immediately convicted. |
| 563 | * TheFunInFuneral: [[spoiler:In the finale, he precludes his walk through the final door with a huge party with everyone he knows in attendance, featuring EDM, breakdancing, and lots of junk food. The reason for the gathering is bittersweet, and everyone's sad to see him go, but everyone also has a great time, and it's clear it's ''exactly'' how Jason wants to go out.]] |
| 564 | * GeniusDitz: Jason is capable of surprising intelligence and insight on occasion, most notably being the one to finally reach Gen and get her to see the flaws in the points system. Had it not been for his involvement, the events of the series would have been radically different and it's quite likely the old system would have gone on unchanged. |
| 565 | * GoodIsDumb: Played with. While super-friendly, Jason is a very childish petty criminal ruled by his impulses and inability to think through the consequences of his actions; he can also be incredibly selfish. All things considered though, Jason is the nicest of the four, as Eleanor notes, calling him the nice one of the group. |
| 566 | * GreenEyedMonster: |
| 567 | ** Averted when Tahani gets back together with Larry Hemsworth in Season 3. While he is attracted to her, he happily steps aside and celebrates their engagement. It helps that he found a Jacksonville Jaguars Facebook group at the same time, thanks to Michael and Janet. |
| 568 | ** Played straight between him and [[spoiler:Derek. Derek is showing interest in Janet again and is more refined, and he provokes Jason into killing him]]. |
| 569 | * HanlonsRazor: He's an illustrative example; he's a career criminal, but not with any malice or disregard towards anyone, he's just too dumb to know any better. |
| 570 | * TheHeart: The most sincere and heartfelt of the Good Place crew, in spite of his lack of impulse control. Before his death, he managed to use this ability to command and encourage a sixty person dance crew/petty criminals through sheer charisma. |
| 571 | * HeterosexualLifePartners: One of the few characters to have had one of these before Team Cockroach. He and Pillboi were longtime friends and thick as thieves (metaphorically and literally). |
| 572 | * TheHedonist: Jason is primarily concerned with his own instant gratification and amusement. Exploited by Michael as part of the IronicHell -- he could theoretically have everything he wanted at his fingertips in the Good Place, but has to keep up the facade of being a humble Buddhist monk with no earthly desires or possessions. And while his soulmate is the rich and beautiful Tahani, he can't relate to her upper-class background. |
| 573 | * HiddenDepths: |
| 574 | ** He actually is a good dancer, and charismatic enough to lead a giant crew. The problem is that having talent isn't enough to win competitions. |
| 575 | ** PlayedForLaughs in Season 4's "Mondays, Am I Right?". He casually makes an apt reference to Shakespeare, to which Chidi responds "''How'' do you know that?" Turns out there's no weird explanation -- he's read ''some'' books in his lifetime, you know. |
| 576 | ** [[spoiler:Despite his childish nature and enthusiasm for... well, everything, ''he's'' the first of the Soul Squad to become truly content and ready to depart the Good Place for oblivion.]] |
| 577 | * HilariouslyAbusiveChildhood: Played with; Jason has a tendency to describe aspects of his rather crummy childhood with DissonantSerenity, and while it's humorous to the audience, the other characters tend to react in a rather understandably horrified way. |
| 578 | -->'''Jason:''' I went to Lynyrd Skynyrd High School in Northeast Jacksonville, which was really just a bunch of tugboats tied together.\ |
| 579 | '''Tahani:''' Didn't you get seasick?\ |
| 580 | '''Jason:''' No, sorry, they were tied together in a junk yard. It wasn't a very good school. For most of my classes, we just sold dirty magazines door-to-door.\ |
| 581 | '''Tahani:''' ...You know, Jason, every single detail about your life is ''deeply'' disturbing. |
| 582 | * ImprovisedWeapon: He knows how to make Molotov Cocktails on a second's notice, which comes in handy at least once. |
| 583 | * InnocentlyInsensitive: Compared to Tahani, Jason's more insensitive to laws, norms, and the idea of "oversharing", but he's a lot nicer to people. And he does often make a sincere effort to improve when he finds out how he's acting. |
| 584 | * InterchangeableAsianCultures: Is believed to be Taiwanese, when actually he's a Filipino-American from Florida. Ironically, Jacinto in real life ''is'' actually of mixed Chinese descent -- like many Filipino people. |
| 585 | -->'''Jason:''' [[LampshadeHanging That's racist]]. [[{{Foreshadowing}} Heaven is so racist]]. |
| 586 | * InsistentTerminology: He prefers to call himself a "pre-successful" DJ rather than a "failed" DJ. |
| 587 | * InterspeciesRomance: Jason, a human in the afterlife, develops a romance (in multiple lives) with Janet, a...well, ''Janet.'' |
| 588 | * {{Irony}}: Come Season 1, he was posing as a Buddhist monk that would sometimes dispense advice. In Season 3, he's actually introspective and gives good advice, only it's not BecomingTheMask since he doesn't remember. |
| 589 | ** In the finale [[spoiler:before departing the Good Place, he spends an ''extremely'' long period of time contemplating the nature around him in silent introspection. When Janet points out that this is the sort of thing a monk would do, he doesn't get it]]. |
| 590 | * JerkWithAHeartOfGold: On the surface, Jason seems like a moronic robber and serial vandal who tried to cheat his way through life... and he is. But once you actually get to know him, you'll find that he's an extremely loyal friend whose stupidity can lead to genuine kindness, and, just like everyone else, he too improves himself in the afterlife. |
| 591 | * KindheartedSimpleton: Played with. Jason is [[TheDitz extremely dumb]] and definitely the nicest of the four, but he is still categorically not a good person -- not only did he commit several crimes in life, but he is also ruled by his impulses and can't often see when he's being selfish. However, he is relatively emotionally intelligent compared to the other main characters, and increasingly shows an empathetic and thoughtful side. |
| 592 | * LimitedWardrobe: Outside of his Buddhist Monk attire, he typically wears pants and jacket in the form of a windbreaker or track suit, with a tank top. |
| 593 | * LovableRogue: Has little care for the law, but is generally still sweet and personable to pretty much everyone. |
| 594 | * LoserSonOfLoserDad: As it turns out, Jason's father is a dim-witted criminal, and in a more horrifying twist, ''Jason'' is the more intelligent of the two. |
| 595 | * MagicalAsian: Being a wise Buddhist monk, Jianyu dispenses powerful truths and sage advice without saying a word... Except not. Jason is in fact just a normal human being. This even gets hilariously alluded to in the Season 2 premiere, where he invokes this trope to give Eleanor a bike gear he stole from his soulmate and she spends the rest of the episode convinced that Jason is a "mighty wizard" who gave her a magic amulet to help her in her time of need. |
| 596 | * {{Malaproper}}: He mispronounces various words or phrases, such as saying "ethnics" instead of "ethics". |
| 597 | * {{Manchild}}: When he shows Eleanor and Chidi his "Budhole," Eleanor comments the décor -- the game consoles, the posters of cars and bikini-clad models -- is like "12-year-old boy meets... 13-year-old boy." Jason generally has an immature and child-like mind. It's revealed that he and Jianyu have the same IQ, only Jianyu stopped learning at age eight; at least that was Michael's explanation. There actually is no Jianyu as far as we know. |
| 598 | * MeaningfulName: |
| 599 | ** His fake name, "Jianyu", has multiple possible meanings. "Build the universe" or "build the world" could just be a reference to Michael constructing the Good Place, or even a hint about the "Jianyu" identity being fabricated. Another, even more interesting, translation is "prison", hinting both at Jason feeling imprisoned by pretending to be Jianyu and at the real nature of the Good Place. |
| 600 | ** His real name, Jason, means "healer", which can apply to his function in the friend group, but is just as likely a reference to the mythic hero of the same name who hunted the Golden Fleece. |
| 601 | * MissingMom: He lost his mother to cancer. |
| 602 | * MistakenForProfound: All of his "wisdom" is actually just him staying completely silent and letting people come up with their own answers. He's actually a complete idiot who's bluffing his way through the whole thing. Ironically, when he ''does'' try to give advice after his cover is blown, it often ends up being genuinely helpful in spite of sounding like ridiculous nonsense on the surface. |
| 603 | * MotorMouth: Jason has a tendency to share detailed, long-winded tangents, even when they aren't exactly relevant to the topic at hand. Usually PlayedForLaughs. |
| 604 | * NiceGuy: Ditziness and selfishness aside, Jason genuinely tries to be a good person and is very sweet-natured and caring. In fact, the main reason Shawn thinks he belongs in the Bad Place is not that he is a bad person, but that [[OnlyInFlorida he is from Florida]]. |
| 605 | * NotQuiteDead: The real Jianyu isn't dead, he just achieved such a deep level of meditation that he was mistaken for dead, leading to Jason being mistaken for him. Though given TheReveal of Chapter 13, it's unlikely there even ''is'' an actual Jianyu. |
| 606 | * OnlyInFlorida: He's from Florida, and does a lot of weird things. When just hearing he's from Florida, Shawn says he must belong to the Bad Place. |
| 607 | * OOCIsSeriousBusiness: In Season 4, when it's revealed that [[spoiler:Janet is actually a Bad Janet in disguise,]] [[ViolentlyProtectiveGirlfriend Jason]] promptly turns serious and declares that he's [[spoiler:gonna march right down to Hell and punch Shawn in the mouth.]] |
| 608 | * OppositesAttract: |
| 609 | ** Jason, who may very well be the dumbest person to ever live, falls in love with Janet, an infinite database who knows literally everything. |
| 610 | ** With Tahani in Season 2 (and to a lesser extent, Season 3). Tahani was a cultured, educated, wealthy philanthropist in life while Jason was an unintelligent, uncouth petty criminal. |
| 611 | * PairTheDumbOnes: Invoked and zigzagged. While Jason is literally TooDumbToLive, his girlfriend [[BenevolentAI Janet]] is TheOmniscient, knowing ''everything''. That said, Janet is also inexperienced in life and frequently inept at social cues and generally [[DissonantSerenity cheerful at inappropriate times]] due to her programming to always be positive. They pair up, and help each other to learn from experience. |
| 612 | * PatrioticFervor: A city-specific example. He ''loves'' his home city of Jacksonville, for reasons no one else can figure out. |
| 613 | * ThePollyanna: As Tahani points out, so many aspects of his pre-death life are deeply disturbing; his father was a ludicrously idiotic criminal, his mother was a criminal, his "school" was a bunch of tugboats, where lessons consisted of selling porn mags, and one of the teachers was arrested for having sex with Jason... He didn't really have much of a chance. Even in death he puts up with a ''lot'' from the others and Michael (considering they were supposed to be torturous to him). And yet Jason never seems to be bothered by any of these things, rarely stops smiling, and is often trying to help. |
| 614 | * ProperlyParanoid: Unlike the others, he was the only one suspecting that The Good Place was a "prank show"; he points out that heaven is racist for assuming him to be Taiwanese when he is Filipino, for example, and is vindicated when Eleanor finds out in the first version of the Neighborhood that they're in The Bad Place. |
| 615 | * TheQuietOne: He's a Buddhist monk who is continuing his vow of silence. Somehow, he is able to make his feelings known anyway. It turns out this is just how he maintains his bluff. When he finally breaks his silence, he reveals he's actually a Filipino DJ who, like Eleanor, was sent to the Good Place in someone else's place. |
| 616 | * RagsToRiches: In Season 3 he goes from having the finances of a small-time Florida crook to legally being extremely wealthy after his MarriageOfConvenience to Tahani. |
| 617 | * RightForTheWrongReasons: Occasionally. His first guess as to what's going on is that they're on some kind of prank show (sort of right, although he thought it was an actual show) and he even correctly figures out they're in the Bad Place based on his dimwitted observations regarding football and them constantly fighting amongst each other. |
| 618 | * SadClown: Subverted. Jason has had a very sad and often disturbing life: he lost his mom to cancer when he was very young, and his dad, Donkey Doug, is a BlueAndOrangeMorality type minor gangster who is always pulling him into scrapes. However, Jason doesn't use his humor to deflect from it; he genuinely doesn't seem sad. |
| 619 | * SeeminglyProfoundFool: Zig-zagged. Things like his calming touch on Michael appear genuinely wise, until we learn Jason's true nature. Then, when we learn who Jason is, it looks like this is what's happening when, for example, he pricks his finger on a cactus and Michael manages to convert that into a parable. Then, when we learn the true nature of the Good Place, it becomes clear that everyone except maybe Chidi, Eleanor and Tahani already knew he had nothing to offer in the wisdom department and the poetic reinterpretations of his semi-random actions were just a way of keeping the charade going. And then by the time they work to ''change'' the system, he's ''actually'' profound more often than not. |
| 620 | * SimpleMindedWisdom: Most of his DumbassHasAPoint moments stem from this. His direct and simplistic way of thinking can lead him to logical answers, such as reasoning he's in the Bad Place because his "soulmate" doesn't know who Blake Bortles is and the TV doesn't get a certain football channel. |
| 621 | * SpannerInTheWorks: |
| 622 | ** Michael couldn't anticipate that he would fall in love with Janet and cause the not-a-girl to genuinely fall in love with him in return. This, in turn, led to Michael having a HeelRealization when Janet subconsciously remembered their marriage and was expressing her heartbreak through neighborhood glitches. |
| 623 | ** In Michael's second attempt, he blows his cover within a single day, throwing Michael's plans off and forcing him to start from scratch again. |
| 624 | * StupidCrooks: Part of his backstory is committing all kinds of ill-conceived and/or impulsive crimes, one of them ultimately resulting in his death. The guy is basically the "Florida Man" meme if it genuinely was all done by one person. |
| 625 | * TooDumbToFool: In the second iteration, he ruins Michael's plans within a single day because, separated from the others, he forgets he's supposed to be hiding the fact that he doesn't belong. |
| 626 | * TooDumbToLive: He died during the execution of a badly-planned robbery that involved him being locked in a safe. He forgot to put in air holes, thinking just wearing a snorkel inside would help him breathe, and suffocated after doing a number of whippets inside. |
| 627 | -->'''Jason:''' I'm just a dope who died in a safe with a snorkel... '''[{{Beat}}]'' Who's only ''now'' realizing why that didn't work! |
| 628 | * TrademarkFavoriteFood: Jalapeno poppers. |
| 629 | * UptightLovesWild: In Season 2, the wild and impulsive Jason briefly hooks up with the elegant and uptight Tahani. In the afterlife, his true "soul mate" is the proper and coolheaded Janet. |
| 630 | * VanityLicensePlate: Among the many, ''many'' things that got him sent to the Bad Place was the fact that he had license plates that read "I LUV BUTTS". |
| 631 | * WalkingSpoiler: It's hard to talk about Jianyu when he's actually an amateur DJ named Jason and, like Eleanor, is also unworthy of being in the Good Place. |
| 632 | * WeNamedTheMonkeyJack: [[spoiler:We see that when he became human, Michael named his dog "Jason" after him. The dog's collar is also themed after the Jacksonville Jaguars!]] |
| 633 | [[/folder]] |
| 634 | |
| 635 | !!!Administration |
| 636 | |
| 637 | [[folder:Michael]] |
| 638 | |
| 639 | See Characters/TheGoodPlaceMichael. |
| 640 | |
| 641 | [[/folder]] |
| 642 | |
| 643 | [[folder:Janet]] |
| 644 | !!Janet |
| 645 | [[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/janet.jpg]] |
| 646 | [[caption-width-right:300:''"Hi! I'm Janet!"'']] |
| 647 | ->'''Portrayed by:''' Creator/DarcyCarden |
| 648 | |
| 649 | ->''"I mean, it does matter if I know things, because I'm an informational delivery system, and I don't have a heart. But thanks!"''\ |
| 650 | |
| 651 | A walking talking user interface for the celestial mainframe, providing the neighborhood's residents with information about the afterlife and indulging their various requests as long as they are allowed by the neighborhood's rules. Though Janet looks and sounds like a human woman, she is quick to correct anyone who considers her a woman and/or a robot.\ |
| 652 | \ |
| 653 | She has her own [[{{SelfDemonstrating/Janet}} self-demonstrating page]]. Hi there! |
| 654 | ---- |
| 655 | * AchillesHeel: She is [[RestrainingBolt rendered powerless and disoriented if magnetic handcuffs]] are placed on her. She also has a manual outlining a large number of secondary functions and use of a paperclip in her left ear can turn her into a marble, helpless until restored. |
| 656 | * ActionGirl[[note]][[RunningGag not a girl.]][[/note]]: Beats up Shawn and throws him into a wall to help Michael escape from the Bad Place. Even when she's depowered on Earth she can still take out half a dozen demons by herself, and then she gets her powers back and starts telekinetically throwing them across the room. |
| 657 | * AffectionateNickname: |
| 658 | ** Jason calls her "not-a-girl" often. |
| 659 | ** He also still calls her "girl", with the expectation that she'll respond "Not a girl." It started out as him not understanding that Janet wasn't a girl and her genuinely correcting him, but the exchange has now morphed into an inside joke between them. |
| 660 | * AIIsACrapshoot: |
| 661 | ** Played for laughs. She gets rather glitchy after she's rebooted. |
| 662 | ** Later when she helps Jason and Tahani as relationship therapist, since she subconsciously remembers being married to Jason and she glitches whenever she attempts to lie about being happy. Then promptly subverted when she willingly offers herself up to be turned off and replaced before her lie glitches hurt people. |
| 663 | * AintTooProudToBeg: She's programmed to beg for her life if anyone tries to press her kill switch. As soon as someone balks, she reassures them that she feels no pain. |
| 664 | * AlienCatnip: Magnets cause her to act drunk. She even gets a hangover afterward. |
| 665 | * AnthropomorphicPersonification: She (and every other kind of Janet) is often described as an "anthropomorphized vessel" of all the knowledge in the universe. |
| 666 | * BadassInDistress: [[spoiler:She's kidnapped for a couple episodes in Season 4, rendered powerless by a magnet jail.]] |
| 667 | * BadBadActing: In "Rhonda, Diana, Jake, and Trent," Janet has to pretend to be a Bad Janet when the gang is breaking into the Bad Place. She finds it difficult to refuse a direct request, let alone insult them while she's doing it. |
| 668 | -->'''Tahani:''' I'm going to make a simple request, and you're going to give me that patented Bad Janet attitude. Can I have a glass of water?\ |
| 669 | '''Janet:''' ''(chimes and produces a glass of water; cheerfully)'' Here you go.\ |
| 670 | '''Tahani:''' ''(hands the glass to Michael)'' No. Let's try again. Be mean. ''Bad Janet,'' can I have a glass of water?\ |
| 671 | '''Janet:''' ''(strained)'' No. I would never give you that, you...dumb...person.\ |
| 672 | '''Tahani:''' Janet, what's that behind your back?\ |
| 673 | '''Janet:''' Nothing.\ |
| 674 | '''Tahani:''' Give it to me.\ |
| 675 | '''Janet:''' ''(apologetic)'' It's a glass of water. ''(Michael sighs)'' And a backup glass. |
| 676 | * BenevolentAI: A being with most, if not all the knowledge of the universe, Janet just wants to be as helpful as possible. |
| 677 | * BewareTheNiceOnes: When Trevor tries interfering with the humans, Janet tries summoning various items to see if they can injure and/or kill him. Only the fact she lacks her powers prevents anything happening. Later on, Shawn attempts to kidnap the humans, and Janet promptly fights off a bar full of demons in hand-to-hand combat to stop him. She even interrupts Shawn and Michael's pre-fight banter with a "Screw this! Let's fight!" and karate-chopping Shawn in the neck. |
| 678 | * BigRedButton: In order to reboot her, one must push a big red button on an isolated beach. |
| 679 | * BizarreAlienBiology: [[RunningGag Not an alien.]] Janets are sexless, genderless, human-shaped vessels of knowledge. They can summon anything they imagine or are asked for into existence, have a body temperature measured upward of several million degrees, don't experience the passage of time but do use it as a lotion for their skin, [[EatingOptional don't need to eat]], get drunk near magnets, and aren't supposed to have blood (having blood is a sign a Janet is glitching). Also, shining a light in one ear causes it to come out the other refracted. |
| 680 | * BlessedWithSuck: At the beginning of Season 1, Janet was more robotic[[note]]not a robot[[/note]], acting on the default settings of Janet programming by only following orders and her [[ThePollyanna failure to express any emotion or individual thought that wasn't blind optimism]]. After more than 800 reboots, she starts displaying a more complex, human-like personality, which also includes more negative human qualities like a capacity to lie, feel anger, sadness, jealousy and existential ennui. Since Good Janets aren't made to feel such emotions, this has caused a modicum of problems, including causing earthquakes and other mishaps whenever she lies (even when she doesn't know it), creating the unpredictable Derek who jeopardizes Michael's truce with the humans and frustrations with trying to keep the Neighborhood Experiment going in Season 4. |
| 681 | * BroughtDownToNormal: Along with Michael, being on Earth removes her powers. She's still ''insanely'' smart and apparently still has the capacity to remember ''everything'' she learns, but she can't just instantly absorb new knowledge anymore, nor can she summon things... much to her frustration. Like Michael, it's unclear if it made her effectively mortal, though. |
| 682 | * BroughtDownToBadass: Being on Earth negates her powers, but she still has complete knowledge of (and seemingly perfect memory of) the entire universe up to the point she entered Earth, which she's able to use to put together incredibly advanced sci-fi devices. She also retains all her knowledge of how to fight, allowing her to easily beat up a room full of angry demons. |
| 683 | * BrutalHonesty: When Michael announces he's leaving the Good Place, Janet bluntly says it will not affect her in any way. Which is true, since she's an anthropomorphized construct with no real emotions. |
| 684 | * BuxomBeautyStandard: She has a sizeable chest, to the point Eleanor nicknames her "busty Alexa" and notes her "rockin' bod". |
| 685 | * CameBackWrong: Every reboot she goes through adds another layer to her programming. In one reboot, she somehow bonded with Jason in a way no one could have anticipated and the two of them end up getting married. Michael finds this development to be so abhorrent that he decides to go reboot Janet again to try and fix things. And as of "The Trolley Problem", she's accidentally developed the ability to willfully lie (due to being rebooted 802 times) which causes potentially-catastrophic glitches throughout the neighborhood as lying fundamentally goes against her programming. |
| 686 | * CharacterCatchphrase: |
| 687 | ** "[[PhraseCatcher Janet]]?" (boop) "Hi there!" |
| 688 | ** "[[MadLibsCatchphrase Not a X]]", "X" referring to whatever humanly-relatable thing characters assume her to be, most commonly a girl or robot. [[spoiler: The lack of this catchphrase when Jason called her a girl in Season 4 [[SpottingTheThread is a major hint that]] she had been replaced by a Bad Janet.]] |
| 689 | * CharacterTics: When not doing anything, Janet always keeps her hands clasped in front of her. |
| 690 | * CloudCuckooLander: Even though she knows everything, that doesn't necessarily mean she truly ''understands'' everything. So she can sometimes come off as this, especially in the earlier seasons where she hadn't yet developed emotion. |
| 691 | * CovertPervert: Not quite, as she's too innocent to really qualify, but in season three she tries to make a stop on the mission to buy Jason some booty shorts. She also engineers a simulation that allows her to spend time with him in a sauna (while he's wearing a ''strongman suit''). |
| 692 | * TheCutie: Always friendly and glad to help. Every time she is updated, which is compared to a birthday, she likes to take a piece of birthday cake and smash it around where her mouth is. |
| 693 | * DamselInDistress: Not a damsel, on account of being [[InsistentTerminology not a girl]], but "Tinker, Tailor, Demon, Spy" reveals [[spoiler:that she's been kidnapped by the Bad Place while a Bad Janet has been pretending to be her to sabotage the experiment. The episode ends with Michael and Jason leaving the neighborhood to rescue her.]] |
| 694 | * DeathIsCheap: |
| 695 | ** Though she is accidentally "killed" by Chidi when he presses her deactivation button, she comes back to life a few hours later as an updated version. Though as Eleanor, and Janet herself points out she is an anthropomorphic construction of information who wasn't born to begin with so therefore she can't technically die. |
| 696 | ** In "Dance Dance Resolution", each neighborhood reset requires Michael to reboot Janet, thus resulting in (at least) 801 more iterations of this trope. |
| 697 | ** Janet's manual reveals that a so-called permanent death would involve turning her into a marble. Michael finds that he can't do it when Janet tells him to so that the neighborhood stops glitching. We learn that marbleized Janets can be revived but they are conscious as marbles. |
| 698 | * DissonantSerenity: She always speaks in a friendly, upbeat tone, even when giving bad news or noting unpleasant facts. |
| 699 | * ADogNamedDog: Like all Janets, she is called "Janet." |
| 700 | * FaceDeathWithDespair: PlayedForLaughs; Janet is programmed to plead for her life when someone threatens to push her kill switch. When we see this in action, she follows the pleading with something to the effect of "Just kidding". |
| 701 | * FirstGuyWins: Jason was the first person who was nice to her after she rebooted, and they get married in Season 1. Season 3 reveals that Janet is still in love with him and has been all this time, though she doesn't remember it. |
| 702 | * AFormYouAreComfortableWith: She's the neighborhood's interface with the celestial mainframe. That said, she's not entirely a non-sentient construct in human form in the sense that she does have some sense of 'selfness' and even emotion at times, same as a sentient being. |
| 703 | * GreatBigBookOfEverything: She can access information about everything in the universe. |
| 704 | * GrewBeyondTheirProgramming: Each reboot results in an update to her processing power and capabilities, she ponders that she might be the most advanced of her kind to ever exist after it's happened more than 800 times, and indeed comes off as far more human-like by mid season two. The biggest change is that she is now able to feel emotions, develop genuine attachments and affection for others while also displaying empathy and intuition. She even figures out a LoopholeAbuse in her own programming, at several points pulls off strategies that should not have been possible like creating Derek or pulling humans into her void. |
| 705 | * {{Hammerspace}}: She either has access to one or is at least partially made of one, considering [[ItMakesSenseInContext she pulls her user manual out of her nose]] and seems to be able to create objects out of thin air. |
| 706 | * HaveYouTriedRebooting: If Janet glitches, or needs to be taken offline for a while, you can simply turn her off and back on again. It then takes her a few days for her to fully reboot. |
| 707 | * HumanityIsInfectious: Janet acts much less robotic[[note]]Not a robot[[/note]] as the series progresses, as a superfluous amount of reboots gave her the ability to connect to humans in ways a Janet has never connected to a human before. In the season three finale, she even states that each reboot made her feel more human, which subsequently made everything make less sense. |
| 708 | * HypercompetentSidekick: At first to Michael, then to Team Cockroach. Janet can do basically ''anything''. But this gets played with in Seasons 3 and 4 when the pressures of having to do everything and being everyone's sidekick starts to get to her. |
| 709 | * InsistentTerminology: Whenever someone refers to her as virtually anything, she'll quickly counter that she's not one, such as a robot or a girl. |
| 710 | * InterspeciesRomance: She, a Janet, develops a romance with the human Jason, a human in the afterlife in multiple lives. |
| 711 | * {{Irony}}: Though a Bad Janet cannot impersonate a Good Janet without melting, our Janet is able to impersonate a Bad Janet with ease. [[spoiler: Though as Season 4 shows, that probably has to do with the multiple reboots beforehand.]] |
| 712 | * LimitedWardrobe: The "variations of the same scheme" version. Her standard outfit is a vest, skirt and a patterned blouse which together look sort of like a flight attendant's uniform. Every time she's rebooted the color of the skirt and vest change along with the pattern of the blouse and the way she styles her hair. "Dance Dance Resolution" shows her in multiple variations of this outfit thanks to Michael constantly rebooting her. Other Good Janets have the same general look. |
| 713 | * LogicBomb: |
| 714 | ** {{Parodied|Trope}}. She is often compared to a robot, and becomes extremely confused that Chidi decided to come alone to the couples' spa, even saying "DOES NOT COMPUTE" over and over. Though she was just joking. |
| 715 | -->'''Janet:''' ''[in a robotic voice]'' DOES NOT COMPUTE! DOES NOT COMPUTE! ''[laughs]'' I'm just kidding. I mean it doesn't compute, but I'm not gonna explode or anything. |
| 716 | ** She does begin glitching when faced with a more complex internal contradiction when she gives Jason and Tahani couples' therapy. She is programmed to put the happiness of the residents first, but as she is also in love with Jason, she at the same time doesn't want to do this. |
| 717 | * LoopholeAbuse: |
| 718 | ** She can side with the humans and Michael when they team up, because she was made to make humans' lives easier and tend to their needs. Eleanor, Jason, Chidi and Tahani are the only real humans in the "Good Place", so she can help them instead of everyone else. |
| 719 | ** While she technically CannotTellALie, her primary directive is to ensure the happiness of the humans under her control. Since there are actually only four humans residing in the Neighborhood, she is allowed to deceive the non-humans if it helps the humans. |
| 720 | * MeaningfulName: "Janet" comes from "Jeanette"/"Jeanne", which means "God is gracious." Makes sense for a being designed by [[{{Main/Heaven}} the Good Place]] to be forever courteous and all-providing for those in the afterlife. |
| 721 | * MechanicalAbomination: Of the "[[HumanoidAbomination Android]]/[[AngelicAbomination Angelic]]" variety. While she insists that she isn't a robot, she in an anthropomorphized celestial entity that operates not unlike that of an interactive program like Siri and Alexa, with various quirks similar to how you input information and request not unlike a browser or a computer. She can be "activated" by pressing her nose for three-seconds, she can be logged on by entering a four-digit key on a key-pad conjured on her hand[[labelnote:*]]Michael's code is his birthday 0000[[/labelnote]], her marbleizing procedure is pressing her nose and inserting a paperclip behind her ear, she takes time to download all of the knowledge in the universe after she is "rebooted", there are many other Janets (including other Good Janets, Bad Janets, Neutral Janets and obsolete Disco Janets) that all run on the same network and they all maintain the existence of their respective neighborhoods. |
| 722 | * MsFanservice: She usually leans more towards pretty and modest, but Janet occasionally indulges in this via some of her outfits. |
| 723 | * MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch: After an excessive amount of reboots, this Janet is able to do things previously thought to be impossible for a Janet, such as lying, expressing and experiencing emotions, and, under certain circumstances, the ability to refuse orders. When she meets up with another Good Janet in the penultimate episode, she's clearly off-put by their lack of autonomy and critical thinking. |
| 724 | * NiceGirl: [[RunningGag Not a girl]], but semantics aside, Janet is extremely kind, bubbly, and always ready to help out, to the point that even ''trying'' to be rude is against her very nature. |
| 725 | * NoBiologicalSex: Janet is confirmed to be sexless and genderless. She physically resembles a human woman, and answers to the pronouns "she" and "her", but will always politely chime in with "Not a girl!" if someone calls her one. Given that she's a physical manifestation of all the knowledge in the universe, and the body is probably [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith to make things more convenient for the humans she helps]], it makes sense that Janets don't really have or need genders. |
| 726 | * NonHumanNonBinary: Janet's species are infinite databases that, despite appearing as female and going by she/her pronouns, explicitly do not identify as women. |
| 727 | * NoSocialSkills: Janet's very nice and polite, but tact is apparently not part of her programming, and she often drops some pretty harsh truth-bombs without any sort of attempt to take the edge off. While on Earth, she sees no problem with cheerfully informing a total stranger that the woman he thinks is his aunt is really his mother, leading Michael to quickly drag her away. |
| 728 | * OffscreenTeleportation: Both in-universe and out-of-universe. She always appears and disappears via jump cut, usually appearing directly behind whoever called her. |
| 729 | * TheOmniscient: She's designed to know ''literally'' everything, right down to the smallest detail. A person cannot pick up a sandwich without Janet knowing about it instantly. |
| 730 | * OnlyFriend: To Michael, after god-knows-how-long working together on their fake Good Place. |
| 731 | * OppositesAttract: She, an infinite database who knows literally everything, falls in love with Jason, who may very well be the dumbest person to ever live. |
| 732 | * OutOfCharacterAlert: She's visibly more annoyed with Eleanor and Brent, and delivering more BrutalHonesty in Season 4. [[spoiler:This is because it's not actually "our" Janet; it's a Bad Janet impersonating her]]. |
| 733 | * PerpetualSmiler: Always has a smile on her face, which often crosses into DissonantSerenity territory when she spouts horrific facts about the Bad Place (such as Columbus being there because of the raping, pillaging and genocide he committed) or when she tells Eleanor how she can be killed. |
| 734 | * PhysicalGod: Janet knows everything and can create anything at any time. Seemingly her only limitation is not being able to lie, though the latest version has found a way around that. |
| 735 | * PinocchioNose: In Season 2, she becomes very sad that Jason and Tahani are together. She attempts to lie that she's happy for them, but every time she does, she malfunctions in strange ways like spewing pennies out of her mouth or causing a huge vegetarian sub sandwich to fall from the ceiling of Michael's office. |
| 736 | * ThePollyanna: Janet is constantly cheery and optimistic, which, in Season 4, is one of the ways that [[spoiler:they realize she's actually Bad Janet.]] |
| 737 | * RealityWarper: Her powers involve being able to conjure almost anything into existence. Martial application of these powers make her (and other Janets) more dangerous than most anything else in this realm. |
| 738 | * ResurrectionSickness: After being killed and subsequently rebooted, she spends a few days having to relearn all the knowledge of the universe. Initially she can only say her name and "hello", and spontaneously generates cacti. |
| 739 | * RobotGirl: Subverted/defied. While she ''is'' like a walking, talking, infinitely more helpful version of intelligent personal assistant programs like Siri or Alexa (even lampshaded as Eleanor calls her "Busty Alexa" at one point), she's neither a robot nor a girl (rather, a genderless interface for the celestial mainframe). Jason or the other characters repeatedly refer to her as one and/or the other, and Janet always has to correct them. [[spoiler:The one time she doesn't clues in Jason that she's an impostor]]. |
| 740 | -->'''Janet:''' Not a robot.(...) Not a girl. |
| 741 | * RunningGag: |
| 742 | ** Interjecting to deny whatever label or emotion is ascribed to her in casual conversation. |
| 743 | ** Whenever Michael calls her name, she appears in the opposite direction that he's currently facing. |
| 744 | * SayingSoundEffectsOutLoud: When deprived of her powers of teleportation, she says the distinctive "bing" out loud because she's uncomfortable without it. |
| 745 | * ShipperOnDeck: Seems to approve of Chidi and Simone, having determined their hypothetical offspring would be incredibly attractive. |
| 746 | -->'''Janet:''' One of them is hot enough to be on ''Series/TheBachelor'', and [[TakeThat smart enough not to go on]] ''The Bachelor''! |
| 747 | * SingleTargetSexuality: After marrying Jason Mendoza once, she retains this toward him through all subsequent reboots, even though neither of them remember it. |
| 748 | * SpannerInTheWorks: Michael really doesn't understand how badly Janet's Good Place programming can interfere with his experiment. Because she prioritizes the desires of human residents above all else, she frequently acts to contradict Michael's intentions. This is most apparent in the second Neighborhood reboot, where Janet is directly responsible for how quickly the charade collapses: |
| 749 | ** Eleanor stuffed a letter to herself in her mouth, knowing Janet would deliver it to her post-reboot. She was right. |
| 750 | ** Janet brings Jason directly to Eleanor when he wants someone to talk to, precipitating her realization of the true nature of the experiment. |
| 751 | * StatuesqueStunner: Janet has NoBiologicalSex, but looks like the 5'10 and beautiful D'Arcy Carden. Not to mention, no Janets are ever seen not wearing heels! |
| 752 | * StepfordSmiler: Despite not remembering her romance with Jason, she's still subconsciously attracted to him and her conflicting feelings about seeing him with Tahani start having dire effects on the whole neighborhood. |
| 753 | * SuperStrength: She is capable of lifting and throwing Shawn across the room with a single hand. |
| 754 | * ThreeLawsCompliant: While she is not a robot, she still follows her own version of the Three Laws. She will try to preserve her own existence but this is trumped by her having to follow the instructions of the residents of the Neighborhood. However, her primary objective is to ensure the happiness of the humans under her care so she is allowed to deceive the non-humans running the Neighborhood. |
| 755 | * TokenGoodTeammate: She is actually the only genuinely good part of Neighborhood 12358W, having been kidnapped by Michael from the real Good Place to sell the illusion that the residents are not in the Bad Place. |
| 756 | * TrustPassword: Although she isn't aware of it, saying "not a girl" to Jason is this for them. [[spoiler:When she doesn't say it in Season 4, he realizes "she" (actually Bad Janet) is the mole.]] |
| 757 | * WhatIsThisThingYouCallLove: Initially (before she gains sentience and emotions over the course of several hundred reboots) she is unable to reciprocate Jason's love for her. However, as she is programmed to make humans happy, she marries him anyway. |
| 758 | * WhatMeasureIsANonHuman: Often PlayedForLaughs when Janet "begs for her life" or something similar to the horror of the humans, but played straight throughout Season 3 as Janet realizes she's in love with Jason and bonds with the other humans. |
| 759 | [[/folder]] |
| 760 | |
| 761 | !!!Newcomers |
| 762 | |
| 763 | [[folder:John]] |
| 764 | !!John Wheaton |
| 765 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/f1f2fc54_84a6_42dd_9331_f1d89ab91ceb_screen_shot_2019_09_26_at_11713_pm.png]] |
| 766 | [[caption-width-right:350:''"Luckily before I died I pumped my face with 6 vials of juvederm. I'm hoping that my corpse looks like a waxed tile-floor. My ex-boyf is gonna be supes jel."'']] |
| 767 | ->'''Portrayed By:''' Creator/BrandonScottJones |
| 768 | |
| 769 | A gossip columnist selected by the Bad Place for the new experiment. He had a history of writing disparaging things about Tahani. |
| 770 | ---- |
| 771 | * ArchEnemy: To Tahani as he often went out of his way to be cruel to her, even while knowing her emotional baggage. |
| 772 | * TheAtoner: He gradually comes to realize how cruel his behavior was and starts making a genuine effort to improve. |
| 773 | * BackForTheFinale: [[spoiler:He appears in the series finale, bidding Tahani farewell when she's considering going through the door to oblivion.]] |
| 774 | * BitchInSheepsClothing: He ''seems'' like a nice enough guy at first glance, but it doesn't take long for him to reveal that he's a catty, sleazy, and self-absorbed gossip. |
| 775 | * CampGay: He is very effeminate and mentions having an ex-boyfriend. [[spoiler:When he reappears in "Whenever You're Ready", he mentions hooking up with Alexander the Great]]. |
| 776 | * CharacterDevelopment: Against all odds, he does become more mindful and concerned for the other humans in the neighborhood, [[spoiler: which is confirmed when the experiment results come in and he made a large improvement in terms of points.]] |
| 777 | * DeadpanSnarker: Of the catty, mean-spirited variety. It was also how he ran his site. |
| 778 | * EveryoneHasStandards: |
| 779 | ** Even ''he'' can't stand Brent's {{Jerkass}} behavior and refuses to stand up for the guy. [[spoiler:On the last day of the experiment, he won't risk his life to save Brent when the latter falls into a potentially-deadly pit]]. |
| 780 | ** He also agrees to keep Jason's "secret" because he doesn't want to condemn someone to Hell. |
| 781 | * EvilCannotComprehendGood: Before his JerkassRealization, he was unable to realize that Tahani genuinely is a nice person and wanted to forgive him for hurting her feelings. It's not until they connect over being excluded that he admits he was horrible to her and doesn't understand why she would give him a second chance. |
| 782 | * {{Foil}}: To Tahani; they both used their sense of being excluded to drive their actions. In Tahani's case, however, she was motivated to do more philanthropy out of jealousy towards Kamilah and how her sister was better regarded, so she ended up in The Bad Place for having SecretlySelfish motivations. John was just petty and wanted to hurt people out of spite towards them, which means his motives ''and'' actions were corrupt. Like Tahani, his CharacterDevelopment comes about not through attending ethics classes, but by interacting with others (in his case, Tahani). |
| 783 | * GossipyHens: All the way to owning a gossip blog. The first thing he asks Janet is what the weirdest celebrity hookup was. |
| 784 | * GreenEyedMonster: Part of his cruelty stemmed from his envy of how TheBeautifulElite had wealth, status, and attention and he desperately wanted what they had. |
| 785 | * IronicHell: It is eventually revealed that being in "The Good Place" with the woman he harassed was as uncomfortable for him as it was for her. That's why he was avoiding her gestures of friendship. |
| 786 | * TheJailbaitWait: [[invoked]] He proudly says that his site had a countdown clock for when the Olsen twins became legal. Though for what it's worth, his actor is only two years older than them. |
| 787 | * JerkassHasAPoint: He was meaner about it than he needed to be, but he was apparently one of the few people who successfully identified Tahani's very real issues. |
| 788 | -->'''Tahani:''' He made it seem like I was shallow, plagued with jealousy, and ''[[[IResembleThatRemark bursts into tears]]]'' prone to fits of ''melodrama!'' |
| 789 | * JerkassRealization: In "Chillaxing", he finally admits part of the reason he's standoffish to Tahani is he feels guilty for harassing her to the point of ''[[EvilIsPetty mocking her bangs at a Broadway show via a scrawled note on a playbill]]'', admitting there was no excuse for it. What's more, he's amazed that despite what he did, she's ''still'' willing to be friends with him and move on from the past. Even if he can't shed ''all'' of his {{Jerkass}} behavior, he wants to try and start. |
| 790 | * KickTheDog: He often made Tahani a target of his harassment. Tahani, who, for much of her life, was a SpoiledSweet NiceGirl compared to the rest of the FictionFiveHundred. |
| 791 | * LackOfEmpathy: He never seemed to give any thought to how cruel and hurtful his remarks were to his intended victims. He grows out of it in the afterlife, though. |
| 792 | * LargeHam: He's always very camp and theatrical. |
| 793 | * LaserGuidedKarma: He spent his life harassing the FictionFiveHundred due to feelings of jealousy and exclusion. Thanks to the Bad Place sending him for the experiment, he gets access to all the luxuries he couldn't afford but has to spend his afterlife with the woman he harassed, who goes out of her way to be nothing but nice to him and bury the hatchet. John finds he's unable to enjoy paradise when it comes with guilt, which spurs his own growth. |
| 794 | * MasterOfTheMixedMessage: When Tahani says she hopes they can be friends, this is his response (all with a bright, sunny smile on his face): |
| 795 | -->'''John:''' Oh, my God. You are so cute. You are so cute, it's gross. You disgust me. I love you. Get out of here. I never want to see you again. I love you so much. |
| 796 | * {{Paparazzi}}: He wrote for your run-of-the-mill, trashy celebrity gossip blog, and apparently had it out for Tahani in particular. |
| 797 | * StalkerWithoutACrush: Even though he created a clock counting down to when Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen would be considered adults, he is gay, so he probably wasn't interested in them that way. |
| 798 | * TakeThat: He is a pretty clear parody of the infamous celebrity gossip blogger Perez Hilton. |
| 799 | * WellIntentionedExtremist: He claims the purpose of his blog was to "speak truth to power." [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist It seems more likely he was just a horrible gossip]]. |
| 800 | [[/folder]] |
| 801 | |
| 802 | [[folder:Simone]] |
| 803 | !!Dr. Simone Garnett |
| 804 | [[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/tgp_simone.png]] |
| 805 | [[caption-width-right:300:''"I mostly do clinical research in neuroscience. I don't really specialize in temper tantrums. Maybe you need a child psychologist. Or a binky."'']] |
| 806 | ->'''Portrayed By:''' Creator/KirbyHowellBaptiste |
| 807 | |
| 808 | A neuroscientist and professor at St. John's University in Australia, Chidi first meets her when he tries to determine if there's a neurological reason that he is so indecisive. |
| 809 | ---- |
| 810 | * AllGirlsLikePonies: She had a pet horse as a child that she adored. |
| 811 | * AmbiguouslyBi: Simone's an unusual case, since everything we see of her, proper, indicates she's into men only. However, Janet [[ItMakesSenseInContext creates a hyper-realistic simulation that includes Simone, exactly as she would react and behave in real life]]. In one run of this simulation, Eleanor talks to Simone, which quickly develops into flirty banter and an AlmostKiss -- and Simone seems just as into it as Eleanor. So, if the simulation is as accurate as Janet claims, Simone may well be bisexual. |
| 812 | * AmicableExes: [[spoiler:In the finale, she is shown to be on good terms with her ex-boyfriend Chidi, even going to dinner with him, Eleanor, and their friends in The Good Place.]] |
| 813 | * AscendedExtra: She was PutOnABus early in Season 3, but is a major recurring character in Season 4, as one of the four humans chosen for the new experiment. |
| 814 | * BlackAndNerdy: A slightly more downplayed example compared to Chidi. She's black and highly intelligent but is a lot less neurotic than him. |
| 815 | * BrainyBrunette: She has dark hair, and is just as intelligent as Chidi, if not more. |
| 816 | * BriefAccentImitation: In a simulation created by Janet, she briefly imitates Eleanor's American accent (to tease Eleanor about her claim that she doesn't have an accent). |
| 817 | * BunnyEarsLawyer: Like Gen, she's rather quirky and eccentric, but is still very competent at her job and is one of the more helpful characters the gang has encountered thus far. |
| 818 | * BackForTheDead: [[spoiler:Kind of. She comes back to die so she can be part of the experiment.]] |
| 819 | * TheBusCameBack: The Bad Place intentionally chooses her as one of the four humans for the gang's good place experiment to put Chidi under the stress of having his former girlfriend there to compromise his duties running the neighborhood. She also comes BackForTheFinale, [[spoiler:hanging out with Eleanor and Chidi in the Good Place]]. |
| 820 | * DyingDream: [[spoiler:She initially believes the afterlife is one of these and that she'll either wake up to reality or likely cease to exist. As a result, she doesn't take any of it seriously and starts acting erratically to test how much she can bend her "dream" before she finally wakes up or fades away completely]]. |
| 821 | * EntertaininglyWrong: [[spoiler:In the first weeks of the experiment, she believes that the afterlife is simply a DyingDream of hers, and that all the people she meets are random faces pulled from the deepest depths of her memory--for instance, when she sees Derek, she speculates that he might be her doctor in the real world. She also tries several methods to wake herself up, like loudly singing a song that used to play on her alarm clock radio when she was a girl. Her logic is sound, and given that she never saw any evidence of the afterlife when she was alive but knows quite a lot about the human brain and how it responds to trauma, her explanation makes perfect sense from her perspective. She just happens to be wrong.]] |
| 822 | * EvenTheLovingHeroHasHatedOnes: She has a great amount of patience for even the most obnoxious of people, but only if she feels they truly deserve it. Eleanor had a meltdown in season 3 after her pleas to keep the Brainy Bunch together fall flat, and Simone gives her some meaningful advice and sympathy because she knows Eleanor is afraid of being alone. When Brent is supposedly put in danger as part of Michael's SecretTestOfCharacter for the group, Simone is not willing to help him because of how horribly he treated everyone in the neighborhood. |
| 823 | * {{Flanderization}}: Zigzagged at the start of Season 4. [[spoiler:When she's convinced that the Good Place neighborhood is just a dream, she decides to stop taking it seriously, and we see her quirky side take almost full reign of her.]] |
| 824 | * {{Foil}}: To both Eleanor and Chidi. Like the former, she puts Chidi out of his comfort zone and helps him take decisive actions, but lacks Eleanor's negative personality traits. While she studies human nature like Chidi, she also lacks his faults and is more interested in concrete facts than ethical questions. She's also interested in science, while the other characters have a supernatural perspective of events. |
| 825 | * TheGadfly: Although quite nice, she does mess with Chidi's head by telling him the way she'd analyze his brain involves peeling his scalp open and jabbing his brain with an electrified needle while he's still conscious. |
| 826 | * HollywoodAtheist: PlayedWith. While it's never made explicit and she is overall a nice and perky person and never looks down on anyone unless she has a ''really'' good reason to (like Brent when he exposes his casual racism and sexism), Simone is strictly into cold and hard rational facts that can be examined scientifically rather than a philosopher who debates nebulous concepts, so when she's [[spoiler:taken on a tour of the afterlife, she initially believes everything she's seeing is just an intense hallucination brought on by the chemicals in her dying brain and she'll eventually just cease to exist]]. |
| 827 | * HourglassPlot: In Season 3, she comforted Eleanor after the latter lashed out at the Brainy Bunch and explained that Eleanor is scared of losing her first group to which she was attached. [[spoiler:Eleanor in Season 4 has to stop ''her'' from lashing out at the fake neighborhood in a fit of denial that she is in a real afterlife]]. |
| 828 | * InformedFlaw: In Season 4, Michael repeatedly states that her flaw is being too quick to make snap judgments of people, but this is never demonstrated. Every time we actually see her judging someone, her conclusions always seem to be totally reasonable and have a great deal of thought put into them. |
| 829 | * InSpiteOfANail: Season 4 confirms, sadly that [[spoiler:she and Chidi would have broken up sooner or later due to their differing personalities. Unlike the HonorBeforeReason Chidi, she doesn't believe in adhering to principles to save someone who has been a jerk to her and her friends, preferring to be pragmatic]]. |
| 830 | * JerkassHasAPoint: Her constant frustration with Brent, even to the [[spoiler: point of leaving him to die]], can be harsh but is very justified given Brent's awful behavior. |
| 831 | * JerkWithAHeartOfGold: With the "jerk" part heavily downplayed. While she's rather fond of playfully messing with and taunting "The Brainy Bunch", she really does have their best interests at heart and wants to help them out in any way she can. A prominent example of this is when Eleanor asks her why she lashed out when the gang expressed that they weren't interested in her proposal to continue the study. After jokingly suggesting that she find a child psychologist or a binky for her temper tantrums, she offers Eleanor genuine advice, saying that as "The Brainy Bunch" was the first real group she'd ever been truly attached to, the thought of it breaking up upset her, as she was scared to be alone again. |
| 832 | * KilledOffscreen: [[spoiler:She apparently died not long after Chidi broke up with her. Shawn claims that the circumstances of her death were "hilarious" but is interrupted before he can tell Chidi (and the audience) what happened to her.]] |
| 833 | * NiceGirl: Simone's no pushover, but she's a sweet, easygoing lady who takes Team Cockroach's weirdness in stride. |
| 834 | * NoodleIncident: How exactly she died. Also, ''when'' she died since Jeremy Bearimy muddles it. It was hilarious, according to [[UnreliableNarrator Shawn]], but Chidi interrupts the demon before he can gloat about the details. |
| 835 | * NotSoAboveItAll: She starts acting [[spoiler:as destructive as pre-CharacterDevelopment Eleanor in the new neighborhood in an attempt to push the limits of what she believes is all in her imagination, since her rational nature means she can't accept that this is a genuine afterlife]]. |
| 836 | * OnlySaneMan: So far, she's one of the only characters we've met who isn't evil, stupid, or dysfunctional to the point of self-destruction. Of The Brainy Bunch, she is ''easily'' the most together. [[spoiler:This doesn't last once she gets to The Good Place. Her theory that it's all a hallucination is based on sound reasoning, but it causes her to start acting irrationally in an attempt to wake herself up.]] |
| 837 | * OohMeAccentsSlipping: Simone's Aussie accent is awful and suffers from slipping with the actress being British. |
| 838 | * SassyBlackWoman: While Simone does have a sharp wit, this is highly downplayed until she meets Brent in Season 4, as Simone is the person who is most inclined to call him out. |
| 839 | * SixthRanger: Was this to the group during their time as "The Brainy Bunch", but leaves after Chidi breaks up with her when the group transitions into "The Soul Squad", since he does not want to her to also be unconditionally damned like him and the rest of the gang. |
| 840 | * SoapboxSadie: She is the person with the most against Brent for his cruel stupidity, racism, and sexism. However, she is also completely right about most of this. Eleanor just has to teach her to cool it with snap judgements. |
| 841 | * TakingItWell: She was sad and surprised but [[spoiler:accepted quite calmly that Chidi was breaking up with her and he can't say why. She says it must be really important to him since he's never certain about anything]]. |
| 842 | * WhatYouAreInTheDark: Simone, when she thinks there are [[spoiler:no consequences to her actions]], is quite terrifying. [[spoiler:She causes as much havoc as Eleanor does, on ''purpose'', in what she thinks is a DyingDream. Eleanor at least was causing havoc due to inherent selfishness and shaped up after realizing she had to pay actual consequences. Simone is going in the ''opposite'' direction]]! |
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| 844 | |
| 845 | [[folder:Brent]] |
| 846 | !!Brent Norwalk |
| 847 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/good_place_brent_the_worst_1200x750.png]] |
| 848 | [[caption-width-right:350:''"And I was an equal-opportunity offender, okay? I made jokes about everybody. And by the way, I'm the furthest thing from racist. My dentist was a black woman."'']] |
| 849 | ->'''Portrayed By:''' Creator/BenKoldyke |
| 850 | |
| 851 | A materials salesman and one of the humans selected for the experimental Good Place neighborhood. |
| 852 | ---- |
| 853 | * AbhorrentAdmirer: The name of his AuthorAvatar Chip Driver's love interest, "Scarlett Pakistan," is clearly a riff on Creator/ScarlettJohansson. Although this indicates she's a synthesis of at least more than one target of his undesirable attractions, Scarlett Pakistan is also very evidently based mostly on Tahani. That is, an extremely racist and misogynistic, one-note caricature of Tahani that he finds attractive. |
| 854 | * AccidentalMisnaming: He has never called Chidi by the correct name (thus far he's called him "Chad" and "Chippy"), and has no interest in learning how to say it properly. He later gets Chidi's name right in ''Help Is Other People''. |
| 855 | * AngryWhiteMan: Is a stereotypical middle-aged white male who feels confounded by the changes of the modern world. He frequently makes various racist, sexist and classist remarks (even pointing out how they are what is wrong with "this country") and treats "his secretary" Janet less like a person and more like a mindless slave and a sex object. |
| 856 | --> '''Brent''': My assistant, Janet, is a little uptight. I mean she hasn't worn any of my gifts.\ |
| 857 | '''Michael''': Have you been asking Janet to make ''herself'' clothes that you give back to her?\ |
| 858 | '''Eleanor''': Yeah. You're doing the math right there, bud. |
| 859 | * BackForTheFinale: [[spoiler:He appears in the series finale, still going through a bunch of afterlife tests.]] |
| 860 | * BelievingTheirOwnLies: Perhaps the hardest obstacle in redeeming Brent is that he ''genuinely'' believes he is a good person, and deserves only the best out of everything. His own belief is so strong he will adamantly refuse to change his opinion no matter how much he's called out on it. [[spoiler: The moment he realizes he is considered to be a bad person in the eyes of the beings who run the afterlife, Brent takes the revelation to heart, expressing regret for the first time in a year since he first arrived in the Neighborhood, possibly even for the first time in his entire life.]] |
| 861 | * BreakTheHaughty: He starts off seemingly impermeable to learning genuine humility, even when Michael and Eleanor try to frame him for chaos in the fake neighborhood. Then Simone bluntly tells him his book is bad, Tahani follows suit, and Chidi ''punches him out'' when Brent shoves him for accidentally getting hit by his book. Later he's knocked into a fiery pit as part of the Soul Squad's last attempt at a SecretTestOfCharacter for the experiment subjects and Chidi is the only one who chooses to help him out (and even then, it was only because his conscience [[HonorBeforeReason wouldn't let him]]). Then he's made to believe he's truly in the Bad Place, receives a vicious (though well-deserved) TheReasonYouSuckSpeech from Chidi, and has a breakdown as he undergoes a JerkassRealization. |
| 862 | * CantTakeCriticism: Throws a massive tantrum when the other residents criticize his book and call out how racist, sexist, and just plain ''bad'' it is. He reacts so poorly that he and Chidi end up in an actual fight over it. |
| 863 | * CorruptCorporateExecutive: He was one while alive, having committed various white-collar crimes and buried many HR complaints, presumably about workplace harassment. |
| 864 | * DramaticallyMissingThePoint: When Eleanor and Michael orchestrate a chaos sequence centered around him, he runs to them and admits that he doesn't belong there in the Good Place... and instead he belongs in a better place than that; "The Best Place." While it is a tad bit PlayedForLaughs, a lot of Brent's actions center around this supposed "Best Place,'' [[spoiler: and his ultimate moment of character growth is when this delusion is shattered.]] |
| 865 | * EvilCounterpart: To Eleanor. Eleanor also realized she was causing the chaos in Season 1, like Brent does in Season 4. However, Brent seriously and unironically thinks this is because of how ''great'' he is, and he continues to berate and insult Chidi, while Eleanor fell in love with him. |
| 866 | * {{Foil}}: |
| 867 | ** To Eleanor. Eleanor, while doing horrible things, knew that she was committing wrong and was extremely guilty upon realizing that she was causing chaos in Season 1. She also reformed in part for Chidi's sake before admitting that she fell in love with him and stepped aside when he seemed interested in someone else. Brent, on the other hand, practices SelectiveObliviousness and doesn't realize that he is quite terrible. He's interested in Janet, who is "not a girl or a robot" and is already in a relationship with someone else, treating her as a sex object. Janet, who can't even have sex, broadcasts her disgust with annoyed politeness. Their backgrounds also differ greatly: Eleanor's family seems to have been lower middle class, she had neglectful and unloving parents, and she was well into adulthood before she found anyone who genuinely gave a crap about her. Brent, on the other hand, was wealthy since birth and spoiled rotten. Eleanor's selfishness stems partially from having to fend for herself from day one, while Brent's stems from the fact that he had everything handed to him and thus never ''had'' to fend for himself, and just thinks everything he wants is his birthright. The two also have radically different reactions to being in The Good Place with Eleanor eventually using it as a chance to sincerely improve and earn her spot there while Brent dismisses it and believes he deserves somewhere even better. And Eleanor, even at her worst, was capable of at least some genuine kindness, empathy and gratitude awhile alive and during her early days in The Good Place, Brent never shows concern for anyone but himself. |
| 868 | ** Much like Jason, he is a {{Manchild}} who has lived his entire life out of short-sighted ignorance and [[TooDumbToLive ended up in the afterlife due to his own ineptitude]]. However, Jason has many of the more positive traits of childhood (blind optimism, curiosity, desire for friendship, fantastical idea of what love is), lived a life of street crime, and was born into a lower socioeconomic class; meanwhile, Brent behaves more like a SpoiledBrat who throws tantrums at the first sign of conflict, has committed (and gotten away with) various {{white collar crime}}s and was born into wealth. And while Jason showed himself to be very sweet-natured and loving, Brent is incredibly obnoxious and selfish. Best summarized by how Brent thinks of Janet as nothing but a glorified secretary who exists solely to serve his needs while Jason eventually fell in love with her and Jason treats Chidi and Tahani with great respect and they in turn grow to see him as a true friend while Brent treats is openly disrespectful of Chidi and objectifies Tahani, leading both to hate him. |
| 869 | ** In terms of their backgrounds, Brent is a foil to Tahani. Both of them were born into wealthy upper class backgrounds and thus have high expectations and expensive tastes. Both of them constantly crave attention and tend to bring their status into conversations, Tahani with her constant namedropping while Brent constantly brings up having gone to Princeton. The difference is that Tahani's parents messed her up by constantly pitting her against her sister in competitions which made her feel like she had to earn their love and approval and subsequently corrupted her motives for any good things she did. Brent is messed up in the complete opposite direction, having been given everything in his life on a silver platter and thus never actually struggled or earned anything in his life on his own merit. And while Tahani used her wealth and privilege for altruistic purposes, even if they were selfishly motivated, Brent is never mentioned as having done anything kind and doesn't seem to think his privilege brings with it any kind of higher responsibility. Furthermore, despite her motives, Tahani is genuinely kind and sweet-natured while Brent is incredibly boorish, insulting and obnoxious. |
| 870 | ** To Chidi with regards to them both being InnocentlyInsensitive. While Chidi spent his time on Earth obsessively pondering the ethics of each choice and worrying about them having a negative effect on others and such an attitude ruined many of his close relationships, he ultimately just wanted to live a morally good life and was otherwise a caring person. Brent on the other hand is completely oblivious to the feelings of others and never expresses any concern about the effects of his behavior, nor is he interested in trying to improve. |
| 871 | ** Like Jason, he is pretty clueless and unaware of what's going on around him and mostly focused on his own simple pleasures. However, Jason is a sweet and loving dimwit from a troubled background whose father treated him like a best friend to steal things and do drugs with, while Brent is an entitled jerk who had every opportunity to be the best version of himself from day one. |
| 872 | ** By contrast, unlike Chidi, John, and Simone, he has absolutely no genuine desire to improve nor does he even seem capable of the introspection required to do so. |
| 873 | * TheFriendNobodyLikes: Has essentially been pressed into this role by nature of the experiment and his own personality. Between the titanic sense of entitlement, the inability to take criticism, the casual bigotry, and the endless bragging, it's hardly surprising that the others begin to treat him with disdain. When he falls into a fiery sinkhole in "Help is Other People", John and Simone opt to leave him to his fate and Chidi only very begrudgingly rescues Brent because [[HonorBeforeReason his conscience wouldn't allow him not to]] no matter how much he personally despises him. |
| 874 | * GiftedlyBad: With his ''Chip Driver'' novel. He really did pour his soul into it and considers it a masterpiece work, but everyone (including Bad Janet) agrees it's the worst thing they've ever read. |
| 875 | * HateSink: He's racist, sexist, arrogant, self-centered, running a business that harms the environment, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and the only one who thinks his golf game is any good]]. He also gets considerably less developed than the other characters, with no humanizing peeks into his backstory or hints toward redeeming qualities, because there aren't any. |
| 876 | * HeelFaceDoorSlam: Played with. "The Funeral to End All Funerals" reveals he was the only person to actually get ''worse'' during the experiment, but his genuine apology to Chidi during the very last minute of the experiment did redeem him from a very low score to just 1% worse. |
| 877 | * {{Hypocrite}}: In "A Girl From Arizona, Part 2", Brent says that he believes that people rejecting personal responsibility and expecting handouts is a major problem in society, all the while being completely blind to the fact that he got handouts his whole life. Later, in "A Chip Driver Mystery", he aggressively pushes responsibility for everything that goes wrong for him onto others, from blaming the poor reception of his novel on Simone and Tahani being "mean" and prejudiced against him to insisting that his golf game went badly because Michael sneezed. |
| 878 | * InnocentlyInsensitive: This is probably the kindest way to describe his behavior. Brent honestly does not seem to grasp how awful his actions and personality are, nor does he care to do even a tiny bit of self-reflection. Deconstructed in that, unlike most examples of this trope, this doesn't redeem or soften him as he doesn't mean well nor does he have very many positive traits to make up for it, with his ignorance and narcissism making him almost ruin the experiment and possibly doom all of humanity. |
| 879 | * ItsAllAboutMe: To call him self-absorbed would almost be an understatement. Eleanor even lampshades this, stating that men like Brent think the whole world revolves around them while begrudgingly admitting that it's kinda true. Chidi cites this as the first and main reason why Brent is a terrible person. |
| 880 | * IvyLeagueForEveryone: Invoked; he sees the fact that he went to Princeton as indicative that he's a great individual, and will take any opportunity to mention it in conversation. |
| 881 | * JerkassRealization: In "Help Is Other People", he realizes how much of a dick he was his whole life and all Season 4 and genuinely apologizes to Chidi about it, though he doesn't finish due to the experiment being over. The next episode shows that it ''did'' end up factoring into his final judgment and greatly boosted his point totals, but not enough to give him a positive score. |
| 882 | * JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: Brent constantly seems to be on the brink of discovering something profound about himself, but only behaving even more rudely and terribly. In fact, the only time he doesn't behave like this [[spoiler:actually gets cut off - he's about to apologize when the experiment ends, freezing him and Chidi.]] It did still seem to count [[spoiler: toward his point totals, but not enough to give him a positive score.]] |
| 883 | * KarmaHoudini: While alive, he got away with various white-collar crimes and a lifetime of wealth and privilege protected him from facing any negative consequences for his actions, so he never had to face his mistakes or personality flaws. As such, it's near impossible for the Soul Squad to get through to him. |
| 884 | * KarmaHoudiniWarranty: He escaped accountability in his earthly life, but he is made to answer for his actions and behaviors in his afterlife. |
| 885 | * LackOfEmpathy: A non-malicious example. Brent seems completely incapable of considering the feelings of others and never shows concern for anyone but himself. |
| 886 | * {{Manchild}}: Despite being around 50 to 60 years old, being an AngryWhiteMan raised in privilege has made him incredibly thin-skinned and prone to throwing tantrums whenever he's inconvenienced or challenged in any way. He spends most of the time golfing with the instant-win setting turned on, only to immediately accuse Michael of sneezing as the reason why he misses a shot after it is turned off. When everyone voices how bad his book (and by extension, his own personality) is, he complains about how much of a victim he is and cancels his book signing "because of these ''mean'' women." |
| 887 | --> '''Bad Janet''': Ah, middle-aged American male fragility. You know why they're called baby boomers, right? Because the tiniest little pin-prick to their ego and boom: they become babies. |
| 888 | * {{Nepotism}}: He inherited his family business and got his spot in Princeton through his father and grandfather having gone and presumably been wealthy donors. Not that he ever mentions or even seems aware of it. |
| 889 | * NiceToTheWaiter: Of the "treats the staff badly and is, therefore, a bad person" flavor. Upon being introduced to Janet, he immediately assumes that she's his secretary and is consistently rude to her. |
| 890 | * NotQuiteTheRightThing: The Soul Squad believes that the best way to redeem Brent is to play to his ego, tip-toeing around his sensitivity to criticism and trying to appease him in hopes that simply being around good people doing good things for good reasons will convince him to do the same. [[spoiler: The reality of the matter is that it's the opposite that needs to be done, as it's only when Brent is confronted with the hard truth and has the rug pulled out from under him does he begin to change his views.]] |
| 891 | * ObliviouslyEvil: He has no malice and doesn't realize how damaging his behavior is because he's been protected from consequences all his life. This fact makes it quite difficult to reform him, as he doesn't believe he has any need to reform. |
| 892 | * OhCrap: When Eleanor and Michael "confirm" that Brent and Chidi are in the Bad Place in "Help Is Other People", Brent's cockiness that had been in place since his first appearance completely drops as he's forced to realize he's not nearly a good person as he thought and that his theory of being worthy of "The Best Place" was completely unfounded. He tries to retain his composure after Eleanor and Michael leave the room but fails, as Chidi's subsequent TheReasonYouSuckSpeech underlines that Brent is a genuinely ''bad'' person and sends him further into a panic. |
| 893 | * OOCIsSeriousBusiness: In the last moments of the experiment, he realizes that Chidi is right, and he's behaved horribly. He starts to apologize -- the first time in his existence he seems to understand he's done something wrong and needs to amend -- but is cut off right at the last second. |
| 894 | * ParentalNeglect: He offhandedly mentions that he had a child back on Earth, but doesn't seem to think much of said "dumb kid" and doesn't care that he is now permanently out of their life. |
| 895 | * PastimesProvePersonality: He really loves golf which reflects his lifetime of massive privilege. He also plays with the cheat codes on so each shot is perfect yet still brags about his skill, showing his gigantic ego. |
| 896 | * PlayingTheVictimCard: Whenever anyone has had enough of his attitude and starts to get the tiniest amount of fed up with him, he will act as if he is being attacked for no reason. |
| 897 | * PoliticalCorrectnessIsEvil: At least that's what he thinks. When he's told that Janet isn't a secretary, he starts complaining about "all the terms" he's expected to learn. |
| 898 | * PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Unambiguously a bad person, and leans heavily into casual misogyny and racism. He then gets defensive and angry whenever he's called out on it. |
| 899 | * PrettyFlyForAWhiteGuy: A part of his casual, unthinking racism coupled with trying to earn points for friendliness to secure a spot in "The Best Place". In "Tinker, Tailor, Demon, Spy", he calls Chidi "my brother" and [[BriefAccentImitation imitates a stereotypical black American accent]], despite Chidi not being American. Simone quickly gives the [[NoJustNoReaction appropriate reaction]]. |
| 900 | * SmallNameBigEgo: To an utterly absurd degree. Brent believes he is above any kind of criticism and that he fully deserves not only all the good things he has but even more. Best summarized by Simone telling him that to go on to an even better afterlife as Michael and Eleanor said he would, he would have to be one of the single best people in all of history and Brent's only response is to say, with complete sincerity, that such a classification "makes sense to me". |
| 901 | * SomeOfMyBestFriendsAreX: Denies being a racist by pointing out that his dentist was black. |
| 902 | * SpannerInTheWorks: More so than [[spoiler: the two actual Demons working as moles, or the people chosen specifically to hurt Chidi and Tahani]]. He actually got ''worse'' in death, and [[spoiler: even a heartfelt apology at the last minute wasn't enough to save him]]. And that was under the ''best'' case conditions. [[spoiler: Without Chidi, he's on attempt 15,724, and ''still'' hasn't gotten better.]] |
| 903 | * StrawmanPolitical: Brent seems to be intended as a caricature of all of the worst stereotypes of his demographic (rich, straight, white right-wing baby boomer men). He is portrayed as being wrong on every issue, basing his opinions entirely on unexamined prejudice and privilege (leading him to do and say various unapologetically sexist and racist things), [[CantTakeCriticism reacting disproportionately to criticism]], [[ItsAllAboutMe behaving as though the world revolves around him]] and has earned it himself despite inheriting his privilege. |
| 904 | * StylisticSuck: The awful descriptions in his crime novel are also inspired by the work of... unfortunately, ''legions'' of male authors, even highly acclaimed and established ones. "Her eyes were as brown as the brownest crayon" is [[TruthInTelevision barely]] {{Pastiche}}. |
| 905 | * SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: |
| 906 | ** As Michael later points out, Brent was almost 60 by the time he died, making him not only the oldest human test subject chosen for the experiment but also means he had the most time to be set in his ways without rhyme or reason to ever think about anyone but himself. By telling him he is in "The Good Place", his choices have become vindicated and he finds no reason to change, and only does minor good deeds with the promise of getting into "The Best Place", furthering his sense of superiority. [[spoiler: As such, the only time Brent ''ever'' displays genuine decency is when he realizes that he's ''not'' in the Good Place and is in fact in the Bad Place, soon to be tortured for his actions and behaviors in his earthly life and left with the revelation he is not as good a person as he led himself to believe, owns up to his mistakes and earnestly apologizes to Chidi.]] |
| 907 | ** With how selfish Brent is throughout Season 4, it comes as no surprise to the viewer that by the time of the finale, [[spoiler:he still isn't able to cross over to the Good Place. This is even after the tests have been completely restructured to allow continued redoes until the person can finally become their best selves and pass. The episode sends him off on a note that he ''might'' be able to eventually pass, but he still has a long road ahead of him.]] |
| 908 | * TakeThat: Is a thinly veiled parody of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh. |
| 909 | * TokenEvilTeammate: While nobody in the new neighborhood deserves to be in the Good Place (per the old rules), [[spoiler:everybody else improves quite significantly, except Brent, who actually gets worse.]] |
| 910 | * TooDumbToLive: Literally in this case. The reason he died was that [[AlcoholInducedIdiocy he won a drinking contest with a pilot and got to fly his helicopter]]. |
| 911 | * UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: His self-centered nature nearly condemns all humanity, past and present, to oblivion. |
| 912 | * WantsAPrizeForBasicDecency: |
| 913 | ** He seems convinced that his "personal belief" that UsefulNotes/MartinLutherKingJr was a good person is bold and insightful |
| 914 | ** He also thinks having Janet make clothes which he then gifts to her is an act of immense kindness on his part. |
| 915 | ** He seems to think that he is entitled to "complos" from his neighbors because he "accomplished something" by writing a novel. Nevermind that it's poorly written and offensive to everyone else, he '''deserves''' those complos and they are "mean" for standing up to him. |
| 916 | * WriteWhoYouKnow: InUniverse, he writes a novel and bases the love interest on Tahani and the nerdy sidekick on Chidi. |
| 917 | * YouGetMeCoffee: By his first night in the Neighborhood, Brent has asked Janet for so many things (one of which being a BLT) that Janet (who was created solely to answer questions and give humans stuff) finds it annoying. Though of course, she found it condescending that he asks for clothes in her size and "gifted" them to her, expecting she would wear them. Odds are this falls in the "[[StayInTheKitchen Make Me a Sandwich]]" category given his political incorrectness. |
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