| 1 | [[WMG:[[center:[-''ComicBook/{{Venom}}'' '''[[Characters/{{Venom}} Main Character Index]]'''\ |
| 2 | ''Venom''\ |
| 3 | [[Characters/MarvelComicsVenom The Venom Symbiote]] | [[Characters/VenomMainHosts Main hosts of Venom]] ([[Characters/MarvelComicsEddieBrock Eddie Brock]] | [[Characters/MarvelComicsFlashThompson Flash Thompson]]) | [[Characters/VenomOtherHosts Other hosts of Venom]] | [[Characters/AlternateIncarnationsOfVenom Alternate Incarnations of Venom]] | [[Characters/VenomSupportingCharacters Supporting Characters]] | [[Characters/VenomRoguesGallery Rogues Gallery]]\ |
| 4 | ''Symbiotes in General''\ |
| 5 | [[Characters/MarvelComicsSymbiotes Symbiotes]] | [[Characters/MarvelComicsSymbioteHosts Hosts to other Symbiotes]]\ |
| 6 | ''Other Symbiotes''\ |
| 7 | '''Carnage (Character)''' ([[Characters/MarvelComicsCletusKasady Cletus Kasady]]) | [[Characters/MarvelComicsToxin Toxin (Character)]] | [[Characters/MarvelComicsScream Scream (Character)]]\ |
| 8 | ''Comics Characters Pages''\ |
| 9 | [[Characters/{{Carnage}} Carnage Characters Page]] | [[Characters/{{Toxin}} Toxin Characters Page]] | [[Characters/ScreamCurseOfCarnage Scream Characters Page]]]]-]]] |
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| 11 | !!The Carnage Symbiote |
| 12 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/venom_vs_carnage_crain.png]] |
| 13 | [[caption-width-right:350:''[[Music/GreenJelly Listen all you fools! Don’t you know that Carnage rules!]]]]'' |
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| 15 | !!! '''Hosts:''' Cletus Kasady, John Jameson, Ben Reilly, Norrin Radd, most of the populace of Doverton, Colorado, Logan, Ben Grimm, Clint Barton, Steve Rogers, Tanis Nieves, Karl Malus, Bentley Wittman, Carla Unger, Norman Osborn, Normie Osborn |
| 16 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''The Amazing Spider-Man'' #361 |
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| 18 | -> ''"But isn't that what you want to hear, Doctor? That I was a poor, abused child? That my mother beat me? My father molested me? That I was tortured and hung by my ankles above a pit of broken glass? Well, maybe that's all true. Or maybe... I'm just the inevitable aberration. The soul that's born so black, so twisted, so filled with unreasoning hatred... that there's no explanation. You can't make me sane, Doctor. You can't hope to redeem me. All you can do is kill me. Because, if you don't--I'll break out of here. You have my word on that. And the blood--the glorious blood--will flow like wine!"'' |
| 19 | -->-- '''Carnage''', ''ComicBook/SpiderManAndBatmanDisorderedMinds'' |
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| 21 | In the early 1990's, ComicBook/{{Venom}}'s skyrocketing popularity as an antihero derailed co-creator David Michelinie's plan to kill Eddie Brock off and have the symbiote jump from host to host. Feeling Marvel had lost one of its most terrifying villains as a result of Venom's transition into the Lethal Protector, Michelinie decided to create a new symbiotic super villain, [[VilerNewVillain one with no redeeming features whatsoever]]. Erik Larsen came up with Cletus Kasady, inspired by Batman's ComicBook/TheJoker, and Mark Bagley designed a red and black symbiote intended to emphasize the new villain's nature as a chaos-obsessed psychopath. Carnage debuted in 1991, when the Venom symbiote's newborn offspring bonded to serial killer Kasady. Carnage's defining storyline was the ''ComicBook/MaximumCarnage'' crossover, where he recruited several supervillains and declared war on New York, forcing Spider-Man to form his own alliance of superheroes and anti-heroes to combat him. |
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| 23 | Since then, Carnage has become one of ComicBook/SpiderMan's most (in)famous villains, appearing infrequently in the comics before seemingly being killed off after [[MakeWayForTheNewVillains Mac Gargan became a more monstrous version of Venom]]. After Flash Thompson became a heroic Venom, Carnage was brought back in 2011, and has starred in a number of his own miniseries since then. His popularity and role as a humanizing agent for Venom has led to his appearance in several video games and animated series. |
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| 25 | [[Characters/MarvelComicsSymbiotes Click here for the other Marvel Comics symbiotes.]] |
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| 28 | !! Carnage provides examples of: |
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| 32 | [[folder:In General]] |
| 33 | * AbortedArc: ''Maximum Carnage'' ends with an unhinged (well, more than usual) Carnage digging up and attempting to run away with his mother's casket. After he's beaten, the coffin is shown to be empty. This reveal has a vaguely sinister air to it, but nothing ever came of it and no explanation was ever given for why the casket was empty. |
| 34 | * AntagonisticOffspring: He's technically Venom's "son", the result of the Venom symbiote asexually reproducing itself. |
| 35 | * ArchEnemy: Carnage is Venom's and Toxin's arch-nemesis: no matter how many villains Venom fights, Carnage will always be the one villain Venom hates the most. Carnage himself also has considerable grudges against Spider-Man and Deadpool. |
| 36 | * ArtisticLicenseBiology: Carnage suffers a similar issue that Venom often undergoes, depending on the artist drawing him. Despite the fact an entire human head is supposed to be inside the symbiote's head, the mouth's position often indicates there is empty space there. Ideally, the host's chin SHOULD be inside the upper jaw but the art doesn't tend to observe this, drawing his head a bit too small for that. |
| 37 | * ArtisticLicenseMedicine: The ''Mind Bomb'' comic suggests that a simple overdose of Vitamin C affects the symbiotic bond because it severely alters brain chemistry. In reality, at best it might give him some light nausea or an upset stomach, it doesn't affect brain chemistry! The writer could've handwaved this by saying that Vitamin C affected the symbiote itself, or by saying it was some chemical mixture, but no, they specifically state that it affected brain chemistry of the host. |
| 38 | * AxCrazy: Carnage is a nihilistic and murderously violent sociopath who believes that law and order are meaningless in the face of chaos, and his associates Shriek and Doppelganger aren't much better. |
| 39 | * BigBad: Carnage is the chief antagonist of several of Spider-Man's and Venom's - both Eddie Brock and Flash Thompson - stories, as well as a number of his own. |
| 40 | * BodyHorror: When bonded to a host, the Carnage symbiote sometimes resembles a flayed human body. |
| 41 | * BreakoutVillain: Carnage was meant to replace Venom, but got so popular that they're both recurring mainstays. |
| 42 | * CallingCard: Left gruesome ones in his first appearance: the words "Carnage Rules!" scrawled on the wall of the crime scene [[CouldntFindAPen in his victim's blood.]] Since he didn't have access to a victim for his "paint" when Spider-Man first confronted him, he decided to use his own instead. |
| 43 | * ChaosIsEvil: Cletus is hailed as an anarchist because he seeks to bring chaos to the world. |
| 44 | * CreepyLongFingers: Carnage's fingers are almost always shaped into long, sharp claws. |
| 45 | * DependingOnTheArtist: Whether Carnage is [[RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver red and black]] or just plain red, and whether he has a JaggedMouth or discernible teeth, depends on who's drawing him. |
| 46 | * DependingOnTheWriter: |
| 47 | ** As with Venom, how vulnerable the Carnage symbiote is to fire and sonics seems to depend on who's writing. The general consensus has been that it's the more flammable of the two, and has developed an increased resistance to sound, but this also depends on who's writing. |
| 48 | ** Beginning with the ''Carnage'' Vol. 1 series, Cletus was given a Southern hillbilly accent and a love of the Confederate flag and Lynyrd Skynyrd, while earlier stories pinned him as a native New Yorker of implied Scottish-Irish heritage and no trace of a Southern attitude or heritage. |
| 49 | ** After Sentry ripped him in half, whether he regenerated his legs or he still has his robotic ones. In either case, you can't really tell when he's suited up. |
| 50 | * DesignPreservationVillain: Carnage was created mainly because David Michelinie thought it would be a waste to have Venom, one of Spider-Man's most visually impressive villains, no longer antagonize him. |
| 51 | * DidNotGetTheGirl: During Axis, Carnage took a reporter named Alice Gleason to teach him how to be a hero. He assumed Alice was a good woman with a strong moral compass, unaware she was just trying to achieve more viewers with an act. Carnage started seeing Alice as an angel and even started having a romantic interest in her. However, at the end she turns on him and has the police fire on him. Carnage has a brief ImagineSpot about marrying Alice and having a family with her, and assumes that this is a lesson about how if he got the girl he'd put her and their family in danger. So he leaves. |
| 52 | * EldritchAbomination: Like all symbiotes, the Carnage symbiote is a creature of living abyss -- though what sets it apart from other symbiotes aside from Grendel's Mother is that it's mixed with its host's blood. Being exposed to the eldritch power of the ''Darkhold'' augmented and altered Cletus's symbiote, making it immune to its former weaknesses but giving it a vulnerability to certain forms of magic. |
| 53 | * EnemyMine: When Carnage was first introduced, his presence was one of the few things that would allow Venom to -- temporarily -- put his hatred of Spider-Man aside and work with the wall-crawler to stop him. Later appearances of Carnage had other characters become willing to work with Venom only if it meant stopping Carnage. |
| 54 | * EvenEvilHasStandards: |
| 55 | ** Cletus really doesn't like it when people illegally park in handicap spaces. |
| 56 | ** For a rather literal version of this, this is why his team-up with ComicBook/TheJoker didn't last more than a few pages in ''ComicBook/SpiderManAndBatmanDisorderedMinds''. Kasady didn't care for the Joker's theatrics and the Joker found Kasady's lack of flair boring. |
| 57 | * EvilCounterpart: Venom (Eddie Brock) states he seems him as his in ''Maximum Carnage''. Depending on the host, it can be more something like [[EvilerThanThou ''Eviler'' Counterpart]]. (Mostly with Mac Gargan and Lee Price) And yes, it could be said that he is indeed ultimately an evil counterpart to a character who is himself formerly an evil counterpart. (Venom to Spider-Man) |
| 58 | -->'''Venom''': You're doomed, Carnage! I'm older, wiser, more experienced! |
| 59 | -->'''Carnage''': Yeah... but I'm '''nastier!''' |
| 60 | * {{Expy}}: Cletus Kasady, pre-Symbiote, is one of the Joker, right down to his character design being a recolor of the white-skinned, green-haired ''Batman'' villain, and his characterization basically being Joker's dialed up to eleven after getting superpowers. |
| 61 | * ForTheEvulz: His motivation for wreaking havoc is simply because he can. |
| 62 | * GenreThrowback: His post-''Secret Wars'' series is one to the Marvel horror books that Creator/GerryConway wrote back in the 1970's, such as ''ComicBook/TheTombOfDracula'' and ''ComicBook/WerewolfByNight''. |
| 63 | * GodhoodSeeker: While he's usually a nihilistic serial killer whose only goal is to cause as much death and chaos as possible, Carnage has on three separate occasions sought to apotheosize into a god of chaos and death -- first by absorbing the Enigma Force in ''Minimum Carnage'', then by freeing Chthon in ''Carnage'' Vol. 2, and finally by empowering the Dark Carnage symbiote and freeing Knull in ''ComicBook/AbsoluteCarnage''. |
| 64 | * HalfTheManHeUsedToBe: Was flown into space and torn in half by the Sentry in the opening arc of New Avengers. [[JokerImmunity He later got better.]] |
| 65 | * HeelFaceTurn: Briefly, like the other villains from the AXIS event. However, it's especially jarring in his case as Carnage is a psychotic serial killer who has murdered thousands with glee. When the reversal is undone, Carnage goes after the second ComicBook/{{Nova}}, Sam Alexander, because he was one of the few people who interacted with Carnage in a purely heroic fashion, and Carnage can't stand knowing that there's someone out there who has seen a part of him that wasn't a monster. |
| 66 | * HeroWithAnFInGood: When he gets inverted in ''ComicBook/{{AXIS}}'', Carnage tries to be a hero. The problem is that he doesn't know how to do anything heroic and has to get an ordinary woman he took hostage to teach him. |
| 67 | * InvincibleVillain: A major problem with the character during his early days was that he quickly degenerated into this, especially during ''ComicBook/MaximumCarnage'', where he simply got back up again no matter what the heroes threw against him, and the inconsistent writing didnt help. |
| 68 | * LeanAndMean: DependingOnTheWriter, but he is typically despicted as skinnier than the bulky, muscular Venom, and much, ''much'' worse. |
| 69 | * LovecraftianSuperpower: Carnage can grow CombatTentacles at will, and has the ability to consume biomass from its victims. |
| 70 | * NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Carnage, not that [[NamesToRunAwayFrom/RedneckNames Cletus Kasady]] is much better. |
| 71 | * PracticallyJoker: He was explicitly stated to be inspired by ComicBook/TheJoker -- though ''ComicBook/SpiderManAndBatmanDisorderedMinds'' proved that Carnage's methods have nothing in common with the Clown Prince's, and they end up ''hating'' each other, because Carnage wants to be AxCrazy while Joker has ComplexityAddiction. |
| 72 | * RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver: His symbiote is red and black, and he's ''[[AxCrazy most]] [[CardCarryingVillain definitively]] [[SerialKiller evil]]''. |
| 73 | * ReplacementFlatCharacter: He was created as this; Since by this point Eddie Brock had developed into an AntiHero NobleDemon, Carnage was made to fill his former place as the creepy symbiote villain. |
| 74 | * ResetButton: ''Web of Venom: Carnage Born'' promises to bring back Cletus Kasady as Carnage less than a year after he was transformed into Poison Carnage during ''ComicBook/{{Venomized}}''; and rather than play with this new version of the character -- who was specifically stated to be one of the two known surviving Poisons -- Marvel's opted to immediately revert him back to the status quo. |
| 75 | * {{Retcon}}: The time Venom ate the Carnage symbiote and Cletus obtained an identical symbiote from the Negative Zone has been [[CanonDiscontinuity completely disregarded]] by writers since it occurred, with the symbiote he had up until the end of ''Carnage'' Vol. 2 being repeatedly stated to be the same one the Venom symbiote spawned. |
| 76 | * {{Sadist}}: His sole mission in life is to go on ultraviolent killing sprees. He thinks the world is dull and uninteresting but can be made more colorful by spraying the streets red with blood. |
| 77 | * SeriesContinuityError: Despite Cletus' prosthetic legs being destroyed in ''Carnage'' #5, and him being shown with flesh-and-blood legs in the ''Superior Carnage'' and ''Deadpool vs. Carnage'' miniseries -- having regrown his entire body in ''Minimum Carnage'' -- he inexplicably has robotic legs again in ''Nova'' Vol. 5. |
| 78 | * ShapeshifterWeapon: A large part of Carnage's combat schtick. The symbiote is particularly fond of forming [[BladeBelowTheShoulder swords]], [[SinisterScythe scythes]], axes, and [[SinisterShiv shiv-like]] weapons, reflecting Cletus's brutal personality and prison experience. |
| 79 | * StrawNihilist: He thinks the very idea that "murder is wrong" is just "The Man" keeping you down, and that cowardice and weakness are the only reasons everyone else isn't killing too. |
| 80 | * VilerNewVillain: Typically serves this role to Venom whenever he's a villain, being a psychopath without any reason for what he does. |
| 81 | * VillainProtagonist: Carnage has been the protagonist of ''Superior Carnage Annual'', ''AXIS: Carnage'', and ''Carnage'' Vol. 2; the latter of which was an intentional throwback to ''ComicBook/TheTombOfDracula''. |
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| 83 | |
| 84 | !!The Carnage Symbiotes |
| 85 | |
| 86 | [[folder:Carnage]] |
| 87 | !!Carnage |
| 88 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/carnagesymbi_8327.jpg]] |
| 89 | !!!'''First Appearance:''' ''The Amazing Spider-Man'' #361 |
| 90 | |
| 91 | --> ''"And, as my old friend Cletus taught me... it's time to start painting this town a lovely shade of red."'' |
| 92 | |
| 93 | The original Carnage symbiote was the first spawn of the Venom symbiote, left behind during the alien's jailbreak of Eddie Brock. Needing a host and sensing Cletus' jealousy of Venom's power, the infant symbiote entered the serial killer's body through a cut and bonded to his bloodstream. The Carnage symbiote was utterly subservient to him and fully embraced his nihilistic philosophy to the point where it functioned as an extension of Cletus' will. Fed up with Carnage, Venom [[OffingTheOffspring once devoured the symbiote]], leaving Cletus powerless for a time, though the serial killer somehow managed to obtain an exact duplicate of it in the Negative Zone that has since merged with the remnants of the original. Despite initially being disgusted at the notion of giving birth, Cletus came to consider the Carnage symbiote to be female, [[InterspeciesRomance causing his relationship with the creature to take on a new dynamic]]. |
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| 95 | Despite supposedly being irremovable, the Carnage symbiote has been bonded to people other than Cletus over the years, usually for a short duration. These range from unwilling hosts whose dark tendencies it encourages, such as Ben Reilly, Silver Surfer and Normie Osborn, to willing hosts seeking its power, such as Karl Malus and Norman Osborn. |
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| 97 | * AdaptiveArmor: Like the Venom symbiote, the Carnage symbiote protects its host from harm and took on the appearance of body armor while bonded to Karl Malus. |
| 98 | * AlternateSelf: Not to the same degree as the Venom symbiote, but the Carnage symbiote has a number of prominent AU counterparts. |
| 99 | * AmbiguousGender: While technically genderless, writers have variously referred to the symbiote with gender-neutral, male, and female gender pronouns. |
| 100 | * AntagonisticOffspring: To Venom. Even Cletus refers to the black symbiote, regardless of its host, as his father. |
| 101 | --> '''Symbiote:''' Maybe if my host had a little more filial sentiment... a little more human love for his own daddy... some of it would have crossed over to me. As it is, I feel nothing but cold empty contempt. I hate you daddy. |
| 102 | * ApocalypseHow: Duplicates of the symbiote (created by the government to take down Mayhem after she went rogue) called "Biopreds" and "[[SpellMyNameWithAThe The]] Carnages" [[GoneHorriblyWrong decimate and overtake most of the Earth]] in a BadFuture shown in ''ComicBook/SpiderGirl''. Cletus had similar ambitions in ''Carnage [=USA=]''. |
| 103 | * ArchEnemy: To the Venom Symbiote and to a lesser extent Toxin. |
| 104 | * ArchnemesisDad: To Toxin and Scorn. |
| 105 | * TheAssimilator: The Carnage symbiote has made a habit of assimilating others of its own kind, first during the Symbiote Invasion, and then to rejuvenate itself after most of it was eaten by Venom. |
| 106 | * AxCrazy: Just like [[Characters/MarvelComicsCletusKasady its favorite host]], the symbiote delights in bloodshed and violence. |
| 107 | --> '''Symbiote:''' (on Black Cat) Look, Cletus, a pretty girl. Smells nice. Nice and soft...\ |
| 108 | '''Cletus:''' Squeeze all the perfume outta her.\ |
| 109 | '''Symbiote:''' Great idea, partner. |
| 110 | * BackFromTheDead: It's implied that the remnants of the Carnage symbiote in Cletus' body assimilated the replacement symbiote Cletus obtained in the Negative Zone, since all subsequent stories featuring Carnage treat his symbiote as the same one spawned by Venom. ''ComicBook/ExtremeCarnage'' and ''ComicBook/{{Carnage|2022}}'' Vol. 3 do the same thing with the Carnageized Grendel symbiote, with Ram V confirming on Twitter that so far as his run is concerned it's the original resurrected by taking over the Grendel offshoot, despite ''ComicBook/{{Venom|DonnyCates}}'' (Vol. 4) going to lengths to stress that it's ''not'' the original Carnage symbiote. |
| 111 | * BatmanCanBreatheInSpace: After being launched into orbit by ComicBook/TheSentry, it saved itself and Cletus by inducing a comatose state in which they would only need oxygen (which the symbiote could convert [=CO2=] into) to survive. While it's unknown how long they would have lasted like this, it's implied that they were near death by the time Hall Industries found them. |
| 112 | * TheBerserker: Without Cletus's mind to direct it the symbiote was little more than a feral predator attacking anything it saw, though after reuniting with him it develops the ability to speak on its own. |
| 113 | * BerserkButton: One of the first hints that Hall Industries's new tech is symbiote-based is Iron Man taking note of how a recovered piece of it goes absolutely nuts at the mere sound of Spider-Man's voice. |
| 114 | * BigEater: Ate a meat processing plant's worth of cows and workers to increase its biomass in preparation for taking over Doverton, Colorado. |
| 115 | * BlankWhiteEyes: Like Venom, the Carnage symbiote manifests huge, distorted white eyespots. |
| 116 | * BlobMonster: Like its progenitor, the Carnage symbiote is an amorphous mass when not bonded to a host. |
| 117 | * BloodyMurder: The symbiote is bonded to Cletus' bloodstream, making it ''very'' difficult for them to be separated. There have even been times when, without it, Cletus was on the brink of death due to anemia. |
| 118 | * BodySurf: In order to reunite with Cletus in ''Superior Carnage Annual'', the surviving remnant of the symbiote jumps from host to host, consuming them from the inside out to regenerate. |
| 119 | * BrattyTeenageDaughter: |
| 120 | ** It acts this way towards Venom, who just wants to discuss its pregnancy, at the beginning of ''Venom vs. Carnage''. |
| 121 | ---> '''Carnage Symbiote:''' The old fool has lost his mind. This is just his way to exert control. We'll both ignore him. |
| 122 | ** Klaw explicitly compares it to a teenager, desiring independence from its original host but at the same time craving a connection with him. |
| 123 | * CannibalismSuperpower: In ''Carnage USA'', the symbiote ingests a meat processing plant's worth of cattle - [[ToServeMan and workers]] - and converts them into extra biomass. In ''Superior Carnage Annual'', the symbiote regenerates from a small tissue sample by [[EmotionEater feeding off Carla Unger's hatred for her abusive husband]] and then eating her body and those of its other temporary hosts from the inside out after bonding to them. |
| 124 | * CantLiveWithoutYou: In ''Superior Carnage Annual'', the Carnage symbiote dies after being separated from its host for a prolonged period of time. The only part of it that survives is a "neutered" piece that was separated from the main body and makes a desperate bid to reunite with Cletus. |
| 125 | * ColdBloodedTorture: When returning to Cletus, the symbiote tears itself away from the Wizard in as excruciating a way as possible as punishment for separating them. It also develops a taste for this while bonded to Norman Osborn. |
| 126 | * ClingyJealousGirl: Even when separated from Cletus, the remnants of the symbiote in his blood do not take kindly to the Poisons attempting to bond him to another symbiote and try to reject it. |
| 127 | * ADayInTheLimelight: ''Web of Carnage, The Carnage Cosmic'' and ''Superior Carnage''. And, even though Cletus was fully capable during the events of it, the symbiote was in charge in ''Venom vs. Carnage'', even doing most of the talking. |
| 128 | * DragonInChief: The takeover of Doverton in ''Carnage, USA'' was the symbiote's idea, if a few of Cletus's comments are anything to go by. |
| 129 | * EmotionEater: The Carnage symbiote can convert hatred and bloodlust into biomass, making it, Cletus, and [[HatePlague Shriek]] a perfect team. |
| 130 | * EnemyMine: Temporarily allied with Venom to try and kill Toxin. A slight AwkwardFatherSonBondingActivity-vibe was present. |
| 131 | * EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: The symbiote considers Cletus to be its one true host and hates being separated from him. |
| 132 | * EvilCounterpart: The Carnage symbiote was created to be one to the Venom symbiote. |
| 133 | * EvilSmellsBad: Doctor Kurtz from ''Mind Bomb'' notes that the symbiote reeks of "slaughterhouse sweat" while [[ComicBook/{{Nova}} Sam Alexander]] less eloquently describes it as smelling "like puke". |
| 134 | * FemaleMonsterSurprise: Played with: While the Carnage symbiote is actually asexual, Cletus referred to it with female pronouns after it gave birth to Toxin, although he also refers to it with male pronouns. |
| 135 | * FromASingleCell: |
| 136 | ** Because it's bonded to Cletus' bloodstream, intwining itself into his very DNA according to some comics, there have been times when the symbiote was thought to be killed only for it to reform when he cut himself. |
| 137 | ** In ''Superior Carnage Annual'', the main body of the symbiote dies, leaving only a small tissue sample that proceeds to regenerate via ThePowerOfHate and CannibalismSuperpower. |
| 138 | * FusionDance: |
| 139 | ** The remnants of the symbiote in Cletus' blood have apparently assimilated the doppelgänger he obtained in the Negative Zone. |
| 140 | ** In ''Minimum Carnage'', Marquis Radu creates multiple clones of the Carnage symbiote and Venom symbiote and merges them together. This inspires Carnage to try to assimilate the Venom symbiote, but he's stopped by Kaine. |
| 141 | * GoalOrientedEvolution: Klaw deduces that the reason the symbiote keeps leaving Cletus for stronger hosts is so that when it returns to him they'll be more powerful than before. |
| 142 | * IWasBeatenByAGirl: Reacts poorly to Cletus blaming it for their loss to the newborn Toxin, telling him to shut up and threatening to leave him. |
| 143 | * IdenticalStranger: After Venom devoured his symbiote, Cletus acquired [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute an identical one]] from the Negative Zone in ''Webspinners''. This has either been made into CanonDiscontinuity, or the remnants of the original symbiote in Cletus' blood overtook the new one since it hasn't come up since. |
| 144 | * InLoveWithYourCarnage: The symbiote views Cletus as the perfect host due to his sociopathic nihilism enmeshing with its own predatory instincts. |
| 145 | * KillItWithFire: One of the symbiote's weaknesses, although according to Karl Malus it doesn't mind flames if it's the one wielding them. |
| 146 | * KilledOffForReal: According to Donny Cates, Cletus Kasady's portion of the Carnage symbiote died trying to save him from atmospheric re-entry in ''Web of Venom: Carnage Born''. |
| 147 | * LegacyCharacter: Despite being bonded to his blood, the symbiote has been separated from Kasady on numerous occasions and bonded to other people, namely [[http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111127111255/spiderman/images/d/dc/Spider-Carnage_(Ben_Reilly_-_Peter_Parker_Clone Ben Reilly]], [[http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060530104711/marveldatabase/images/0/03/Amazing_Spider-Man_Vol_1_430_page_--_Norrin_Radd_%28Earth-Earth-616%29.jpg Norrin Radd]], [[http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110219085826/marveldatabase/images/0/05/Carnage_Vol_1_3_page_12_Tanis_Nieves_%28Earth-616%29.jpg Tanis Nieves]], and [[http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130923022706/marveldatabase/images/b/b8/Karlin_Malus_%28Earth-616%29_from_Superior_Carnage_Vol_1_3_001.jpg Karl Malus]]. It always returns to him in the end, though. |
| 148 | * LoudOfWar: The symbiote's other weakness, although Cletus claims it's developed a resistance to it. After being augmented by the ''Darkhold'', it loses this weakness completely. |
| 149 | * LovecraftianSuperpower: Initially to a greater degree than Venom, as it enables its hosts to freely transform their limbs into weapons. Venom later develops this ability as well after bonding to Flash Thompson. |
| 150 | * MagicEnhancement: Exposure to the eldritch power of the ''Darkhold'' partially restores its ability to create and control copies of itself, and exchanges its vulnerability to sonics for a weakness to Chthonic magic. |
| 151 | * MakeWayForTheNewVillains: Was incinerated via atmospheric re-entry in ''Web of Venom: Cult of Carnage''[='=]s flashback sequence, and was replaced by the Grendel Symbiote at the start of ''ComicBook/AbsoluteCarnage''. |
| 152 | * MaternallyChallenged: It was just as thrilled to be pregnant with Toxin as Cletus was. |
| 153 | --> '''Venom Symbiote:''' Don't be ashamed, Carnage. It happens to all of us.\ |
| 154 | '''Carnage Symbiote:''' I'm not ashamed. I just don't want anything to do with it. |
| 155 | * MindHive: The symbiote could remotely control separated parts of itself, enabling it to seize control of Tanis' prosthetic, the Iron Rangers' [[PoweredArmor armors]], the entire town of Doverton, Colorado, and Baron Karza's fused Venom[=/=]Carnage clones. |
| 156 | * MindRape: The symbiote forces Cletus' memories onto hosts as a form of psychological torture, in order to break them. |
| 157 | * MonsterIsAMommy: The symbiote has two offspring, Toxin and Scorn. |
| 158 | * MonstrousCannibalism: It didn't object to Cletus having it feed on other symbiotes in ''Planet of the Symbiotes'', or to trying to eat Venom in ''Minimum Carnage''. |
| 159 | * MyGodWhatHaveIDone: When the symbiote left Cletus and bonded to the ComicBook/SilverSurfer, it was apparently unaware that the separation would doom Cletus to a slow and painful death from stomach cancer. When it learned Cletus was dying, it instantly called off whatever plans for mass destruction it had and returned to him, not caring that he was still imprisoned or it could just stay with the far more powerful Silver Surfer. |
| 160 | * OhCrap: When the symbiote sees the Silver Surfer it abandons Cletus in terror, having [[GeneticMemory recalled]] an incident when Radd callously fed a symbiote-infested planet to ComicBook/{{Galactus}}. |
| 161 | --> '''Carnage:''' I... we... know... you! |
| 162 | * OrganicTechnology: Hall Industries used the symbiote to create biomechanical prosthetics and PoweredArmor. |
| 163 | * OverlyLongTongue: Although nowhere near as frequently as Venom, the Carnage symbiote has occasionally been drawn manifesting a long, thick tongue. |
| 164 | * PantheraAwesome: After being separated from Cletus by Scorn in ''Carnage U.S.A.'', the symbiote tries to return to him by bonding to a lion, while [[AsteroidsMonster the rest of it]] takes over the other escaped zoo animals. |
| 165 | * ThePowerOfHate: Theorized to be one of the reasons why the Carnage symbiote is more powerful than the Venom symbiote. It can also [[EmotionEater feed off of negative emotions]] to become stronger. |
| 166 | * ProudWarriorRace: It was willing to abandon Cletus in order to take revenge on the Silver Surfer in the name of its species, many of whom were killed when the Surfer led Galactus to a planet overrun with symbiotes. |
| 167 | --> '''Spider-Man:''' Talk to me, Kasady! Why did your symbiote ditch you?\ |
| 168 | '''Cletus:''' ''[in a TroubledFetalPosition]'' I-it was the Surfer... m-my other recognized him. Some kind of race memory... t-they all hate and fear the Surfer... because of what he did to them! R-revenge! They must have revenge! B-but there's only one way to conquer the Surfer... [[PuppeteerParasite only one way]]. |
| 169 | * PuppeteerParasite: While the symbiote is subservient to Cletus, it ''does'' possess a mind of its own, as it tried to take over Ben Reilly, Norrin Radd, and Norman Osborn. In ''Venom Vs. Carnage'' it was portrayed as being the one in control of Carnage, and following Cletus being put in a coma by Kaine it took over his body and that of Karl Marcus when forcibly transferred to him. The symbiote was also capable of infecting others with pieces of itself and controlling them through it. Cletus's influence on the symbiote was apparently once so all-encompassing that when it briefly left him in favor of the ComicBook/ScarletSpider and the ComicBook/SilverSurfer, it acted ''almost exactly'' like Cletus while possessing Reilly and Radd (who, granted, [[FightingFromTheInside put up a fight]]), and Nieves. While the symbiote was bonded to the comatose Cletus, it acted like a beast instead of mimicking his mannerisms, but following its reunion with Cletus it becomes able to talk, and [[spoiler: in ''Superior Carnage Annual'' #1 vehemently turns down Dr. Jenner's request to become its new host]]. |
| 170 | * PsychoSupporter: The symbiote fully endorses Cletus' nihilistic vision of a world filled with wanton violence and anarchy. |
| 171 | * RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver: The symbiote's coloration is red and black, and Cletus' influence on the symbiote has made it even more savage than its progenitor. |
| 172 | * ReducedToDust: In ''Web of Venom: Carnage Born'' it's shown crumbling to red ash after sacrificing itself trying to shield Cletus from atmospheric re-entry. |
| 173 | * RoaringRampageOfRevenge: When the Wizard sucks it out of Cletus' body and forcefully bonds it to Karlin Malus, the not–so–good doctor warns Klaw that the symbiote is ''severely'' pissed off, which only gets worse when the Wizard blows up his base with Cletus's body inside. After taking control of Malus the symbiote shanked Klaw with a chunk of vibranium, massacred Spider-Man's soldiers, ate Malus after taking over the Wizard. When Cletus is revealed to be alive, it rips itself off the Wizard in such a way as to cause maximum agony and was just about to eat him after reuniting with Kasady before Klaw hits it with a lightning bolt. |
| 174 | * ScrewThisImOuttaHere: When Carnage ran into the ComicBook/SilverSurfer, the symbiote (aware of the Surfer's connection to ComicBook/{{Galactus}} due to its GeneticMemory) freaked out and ran off, leaving Cletus behind. |
| 175 | * SecretIdentityApathy: It apparently didn't consider it pertinent to inform Cletus of everything it learned while bonded to the Scarlet Spider, like his and Spider-Man's secret identities, where they lived, etc. |
| 176 | * SelfDuplication: Following the shenanigans involving Hall Industries, the Carnage symbiote discovered it could create and control offshoots of itself. The only surviving piece of the symbiote to reunite with Cletus after ''Superior Carnage'' was stripped of this ability by the Superior Spider-Man, but regained it thanks to the Darkhold and being infused with Goblin Formula. Combined with its ability to regenerate inside Cletus' body, this has resulted in a number of duplicates of the Carnage symbiote falling into the hands of the US government, corporations like Alchemax, and individuals like Norman Osborn. |
| 177 | * ShapeshifterWeapon: The Carnage symbiote lets its hosts morph their limbs into bladed[=/=]serrated weapons and fire projectiles formed from the symbiote. This was notably an ability the Venom symbiote did not regularly utilize until bonded to Flash Thompson. |
| 178 | * SherlockScan: It could somehow tell that the Spider-Man it was fighting was actually Ben Reilly. |
| 179 | --> '''Symbiote:''' Wrong-o! You are not my true enemy! You are not the spidery specter who haunts the dreams of Kasady! Are you my Scarlet frien--ugnn!\ |
| 180 | '''Ben:''' He knows! He can somehow distinguish me from Peter! How--? How--?! |
| 181 | * SpikeShooter: The Carnage symbiote can fire projectiles made of its biomass, but they only last for roughly 30 seconds before disintegrating. |
| 182 | * SuddenlyVoiced: The ''Web of Carnage'' four-parter was the first time the Carnage symbiote was shown speaking, though it only does so through internal dialogue, and hosts. It's established as having absolutely nothing in the way of goals or personality beyond what it picked up from Cletus, making it little more than an extension of his will. |
| 183 | * TheSymbiote: The Carnage symbiote is the offspring of the Venom symbiote, and is even ''more'' vicious than its progenitor. [[SymbioticPossession It is completely subservient to Cletus and operates as an extension of his will and body]]... until he is lobotomized and [[PuppeteerParasite their relationship is temporally inverted]]. |
| 184 | * {{Synchronization}}: The symbiote could sense Cletus was in danger in ''Superior Carnage Annual'', and once he's shanked starts dying itself. |
| 185 | * TemporaryBulkChange: The John Jameson version of Carnage was very tall and ''very'' muscular, which was Ben Reilly's first clue that someone other than Cletus was in the suit. |
| 186 | * ToServeMan: Not to the degree of the Venom symbiote, but the Carnage symbiote isn't averse to chowing down on human flesh when it can get it. |
| 187 | * TrulySingleParent: Like the Venom symbiote, the Carnage symbiote has given birth to several progeny: Toxin, Scorn, Raze, and the unnamed symbiote bonded to Jubulile van Scotter. |
| 188 | * UpgradeVsPrototypeFight: The Carnage symbiote is more powerful than the Venom symbiote, but conversely weaker than the Toxin symbiote. |
| 189 | * TheUnfavourite: Of all Venom's children, Carnage is the one that's hated the most. |
| 190 | * TheVoiceless: According to ''Superior Carnage'' #5 the symbiote could only vocalize by screeching, snarling, and roaring. [[SeriesContinuityError It's been shown speaking through hosts before, however]]. |
| 191 | * WifeBasherBasher: |
| 192 | ** While in possession of John Jameson in ''Web of Carnage'', the symbiote murders an abusive alcoholic in a ParkingGarage, but leaves his wife alone. |
| 193 | ** While bonded to a scientist named Carla Unger, the symbiote took time off from its reunite-with-Cletus-at-all-costs quest to help her put the "death" in "till death do us part". |
| 194 | ---> '''Carla (as Carnage):''' I want you to know something, [[DomesticAbuse Will]]. Everything that's about to happen... All the nasty things that I'm going to do to you... It's not the monster making me do it. I'm killing you because I want to. I've been married to you a long time. It's about time you started bringing me some joy! |
| 195 | * {{Yandere}}: The symbiote ''hates'' being separated from Cletus and is more-than-willing to do whatever it takes to reunite with him if they are separated. Woe betide the people responsible for their separation... and whoever gets in its way. The sole exception being when it willingly abandoned Kasady to try and take over the Silver Surfer. |
| 196 | --> '''Warden:''' P-please. I've done what you wanted. I h-have a family.\ |
| 197 | '''Symbiote:''' Don't talk to me about ''your'' family! I've got family too! You kept them locked up here! You let ''this'' happen to my family!\ |
| 198 | '''Doctor Jenner:''' Your ''adopted'' family. You can always adopt a new one... one who is worthy of you... one who has ''dreamed'' of this... [[InLoveWithYourCarnage of your embrace]]... for oh-so-long.\ |
| 199 | '''Symbiote:''' [[DramaticStutter Who... who... who... who...]] WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? |
| 200 | * YouCanTalk: In ''Superior Carnage #5'' it's revealed the symbiote has developed the ability to [[SssssnakeTalk talk]] and treats it like a big deal, ignoring the previous occasions where it was shown to be capable of speech, like ''Venom vs. Carnage''. |
| 201 | --> '''Symbiote:''' Sssssstay back! Thisssss body isssss mine! |
| 202 | * YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: The symbiote kills each of the intermediate hosts it bonds to in ''Superior Carnage Annual'', although its roundabout thank-you to Carla Unger construes her death as a MercyKilling since it had been eating her from the inside out. |
| 203 | [[/folder]] |
| 204 | |
| 205 | [[folder:Carnage II]] |
| 206 | !!Carnage II |
| 207 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/cletus_kasady_earth_616_and_carnage_ii_klyntar_earth_616_from_webspinners___tales_of_spider_man_vol_1_14_001.png]] |
| 208 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Webspinners: Tales of Spider-Man'' #14 |
| 209 | |
| 210 | A malicious symbiote somehow imprisoned in the Negative Zone. Cletus -- guided by the remnants of the original Carnage symbiote still in his body -- unearthed and bonded to it to become Carnage once more. |
| 211 | ---- |
| 212 | * InexplicablyIdenticalIndividuals: Even before bonding to Cletus Kasady, it [[RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver looked identical]] to the original Carnage symbiote. |
| 213 | * ChuckCunninghamSyndrome: Subsequent storylines treat the symbiote bonded to Cletus as being the original Carnage symbiote, leaving this one's fate unknown -- though some writers have lent credence to the fan-theory that the remnants of the original Carnage symbiote in Cletus' body assimilated it. |
| 214 | * SealedEvilInACan: It was trapped in a buried canister inside the Negative Zone until Cletus -- guided by the remnants of the the remnants of the original Carnage symbiote in his body -- unearthed and bonded to it. |
| 215 | [[/folder]] |
| 216 | |
| 217 | [[folder:Carnage III]] |
| 218 | !!Carnage III |
| 219 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/cletus_kasady_earth_616_and_carnage_iii_klyntar_earth_616_from_venomized_vol_1_3_001.png]] |
| 220 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''ComicBook/{{Venomized}}'' #2 |
| 221 | |
| 222 | A symbiote abducted from Klyntar by the Poison Hive and forcibly bonded to Cletus Kasady. It was consumed by an unbound Poison, creating Poison Carnage, and later perished alongside the Poison after the death of the Poison Queen. |
| 223 | ---- |
| 224 | * DeathOfPersonality: It is consumed by an unbound Poison to create Poison Carnage in ''Venomized'' #3, silencing its individual personality. |
| 225 | * PowerBornOfMadness: While watching Cletus use it to massacre every Poison sent in to subdue him, Poison Doom and Poison Thanos comment how Cletus' insatiable bloodlust is what makes him so powerful regardless of that symbiote he's bonded to. |
| 226 | * RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver: Unlike its predecessors, it was black with red eyespots and markings. |
| 227 | * ReducedToDust: While the implication at the end of ''Venomized'' was that Poison Carnage would become a recurring threat, a flashback scene in ''Web of Venom: Carnage Born'' shows Poison Carnage's crystalline exoskeleton and consumed symbiote crumbling to dust to reveal Cletus somehow restored to humanity. |
| 228 | [[/folder]] |
| 229 | |
| 230 | [[folder:Carnage IV / Dark Carnage]] |
| 231 | !!Carnage IV / Dark Carnage |
| 232 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/dark_carnage_symbiote.png]] |
| 233 | !!!'''First Appearance:''' ''Venom'' Vol. 4 #7 |
| 234 | |
| 235 | An offshoot of the Grendel symbiote bonded to the corpse of Cletus Kasady, reanimating him and imbuing it with the personality and abilities of the original Carnage symbiote. |
| 236 | ---- |
| 237 | * AnimateDead: It turned Cletus Kasady into a RevenantZombie after being bonded to his corpse, and was later used to reanimate Emil Gregg. |
| 238 | * TheAssimilator: |
| 239 | ** By absorbing codices and other symbiotes, its connection to Knull was amplified and it grew in power to the point of effectively becoming a god. Additionally, absorbing the codices of superhumans -- like the former Ghost Rider Alejandra Jones -- temporarily imbues it with the powers of those hosts. |
| 240 | ** After Cletus was killed by Venom, the Dark Carnage symbiote was absorbed into the Venom symbiote... though this backfired when it absorbed the Venom symbiote from the inside. Eddie was able to separate them by electrocuting it, but this enabled it to briefly take over him. |
| 241 | * AxCrazy: It's just as bloodthirsty as the original Carnage symbiote, and seeks to carry on Cletus' mission to paint the world red with blood. |
| 242 | * BroughtDownToBadass: According to the Maker in ''Venom'' #20, the codices it had absorbed were lost following Cletus' death. While it lost its immunity to flames and sonics, it's still resilient enough to the former to chill in the wreckage of a burning Quinjet. |
| 243 | * ChestInsignia: While first bonded to Cletus Kasady, it manifested a distorted red dragon emblem on its chest, which disappeared after Cletus assumed control. As its connection to Knull grows stronger across the leadup to ''ComicBook/AbsoluteCarnage'', it manifested a white version of Knull's dragon emblem on its chest.[[note]]Though many of the tie-in artists mistakenly drew it as Venom's spider emblem.[[/note]] After Cletus' death, it loses the emblem and appears almost-identically to the original Carnage symbiote. |
| 244 | * ChuckCunninghamSyndrome: Like with the second Carnage Symbiote, ''ComicBook/ExtremeCarnage'' and ''ComicBook/{{Carnage|2022}}'' (Vol. 3) treat it as being one-and-the-same as the original Carnage symbiote,suggesting the originals mind took it over. |
| 245 | * DeadPersonImpersonation: |
| 246 | ** It manifests as Cletus Kasady in Eddie's mindscape, with it being eventually being clarified that it's been indwelled by Cletus' soul/codex, like the Killmonger Symbiote from ''Black Panther'' Vol. 7 is indwelled by Emperor N'Jadaka's. |
| 247 | ** In ''ComicBook/AbsoluteCarnage'', ''Carnage Forever'', and ''ComicBook/{{Carnage|2022}}'' Vol. 3 it's treated as the original Carnage symbiote back from the dead, and is being controlled by the original Carnage symbiote's consciousness. |
| 248 | * DevouredByTheHorde: In ''Carnage: Black, White & Blood'' #2, [[spoiler:the Dark Carnage symbiote takes over a new human host intending to join the battle in ''ComicBook/KingInBlack'' just as Eddie Brock kills Knull and becomes the new God of the Symbiotes. As the symbiotes comprising the dome of living abyss rain down from the sky and bond to the crew of a whaling ship and a pack of sharks, Eddie promptly sentences Carnage to execution and has the symbiote-sharks devour him]]. |
| 249 | * DreamWeaver: After bonding to Eddie Brock, it drags him into the Hive-Mind and traps him in a nightmare where the Venom symbiote is killed, Dylan is taken away from him, and Knull attacks Earth. |
| 250 | * GlowingEyesOfDoom: Its eyespots glow yellow, signifying how its status as a symbiote demigod. |
| 251 | * GodhoodSeeker: In ''ComicBook/{{Carnage|2022}}'' (Vol. 3) it parts ways with Cletus and decides to embark on a quest to become a god of death and destruction, and succeeds by forging All-Blood. |
| 252 | * GothSpirals: While bonded to Cletus Kasady, it initially manifested a red spiral-shaped eyespot, and later manifested a white/yellow version of Knull's spiral on its forehead. |
| 253 | * LegacyCharacter: It serves as a more-powerful successor for the original Carnage symbiote, inheriting its personality and memories--assuming that it's not just the original having been resurrected via BodySurf. |
| 254 | * MagicEnhancement: |
| 255 | ** Bonding to Cletus imbued it with the power of the ''Darkhold'', making it immune to fire and sonics, though it seems to have lost this augmentation following Cletus' death. Eating Alejandra Jones' spine temporarily imbued it with the power of her Spirit of Vengeance. |
| 256 | ** In ''ComicBook/Carnage2022'' it hunts down Malekith [[spoiler:and extracts the remnants of the Venom symbiote from his body in order to obtain a measure of the dark elf's power]]. |
| 257 | * NoSell: When bonded to Cletus Kasady it's blasted with hellfire by Andi Benton, the Monsters of Evil, and Ghost Rider, but is completely unaffected. |
| 258 | * NotQuiteDead: Eddie assumed he'd put an end to Carnage by killing Cletus at the end of ''Absolute Carnage'', but the Dark Carnage symbiote survived and resurfaced a few weeks later. Dylan also blasted it off of Eddie at the end of ''Venom Island'', seemingly destroying it, but it reconstituted itself at the end of #25. |
| 259 | * PuppeteerParasite: After bonding to Eddie Brock, the symbiote -- controlled by Cletus' codex -- torments him with visions of his worst fears coming true while it controls his body, intending to use him to pick up where Cletus left off. |
| 260 | * RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver: It originally appeared similar to Venom's Ancient/Corrupted form -- black with a red spiral on its face and a distorted red dragon emblem on its chest. After absorbing Scorn's Carnage codex, it assumes the appearance of the original Carnage symbiote. |
| 261 | * {{Retcon}}: While Creator/DonnyCates was, for the most part, adamant about it not being the original Carnage symbiote during [[ComicBook/VenomDonnyCates his run]], subsequent series like ''ComicBook/ExtremeCarnage'', ''ComicBook/CarnageReigns'', ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheVenomverse'', and ''ComicBook/{{Carnage|2023}}'' (Vol. 4) treat it as being one-and-the-same as the original Carnage symbiote. When asked about it on Twitter[=/=]X, Creator/RamV stated that as far as [[ComicBook/Carnage2022 his run]] is concerned the Dark Carnage symbiote is the original resurrected by its consciousness indwelling the piece of the Grendel when it bonded to Cletus' corpse. |
| 262 | * SemiDivine: As an offshoot of the Grendel symbiote, it inherited its progenitor's direct connection to Knull -- which empowers it beyond the abilities of a normal symbiote; and it grows increasingly powerful by amplifying its connection to Knull through absorbing codices and other symbiotes. |
| 263 | * TheSymbiote: The Dark Carnage symbiote was born from a piece of the Grendel symbiote-dragon that survived Tyrannosaurus and Venom's attempt to immolate it. |
| 264 | * ThreateningShark: After being separated from Eddie in ''Venom'' Vol. 4 #25, it escapes the Isla de Huesos by bonding to a great white shark. Its full form -- dubbed the "Crimson Leviathan" -- is shown in ''Carnage: Black, White & Blood'' #2, and is nightmarish to behold. |
| 265 | * ThroatLight: Its mouth glows yellow, signifying that it's SemiDivine on a whole other level compared to other symbiotes. |
| 266 | * TransformationOfThePossessed: When it first bonds to Cletus it's under Knull's control and takes an appearance similar to Ancient Venom's, but when Cletus boots Knull out and the Carnage symbiote's consciousness takes over it transforms to be more or less identical to its original body. |
| 267 | * WeaponizedOffspring: It's capable of bonding offshoots of itself to others, taking control of them and connecting them to Cletus' hive-mind. |
| 268 | [[/folder]] |
| 269 | |
| 270 | [[folder:Carnage V]] |
| 271 | !! Carnage V |
| 272 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mjarnage.png]] |
| 273 | !!!'''First Appearance:''' ''ComicBook/KingInBlack: [[ComicBook/SpiderGwen Gwenom]] vs. Carnage'' #1 |
| 274 | A symbiote forcibly bonded to the Mary Jane Watson of Earth-65 and dubbed "Carnage" by Knull in honor of the late Cletus Kasady. |
| 275 | ---- |
| 276 | * CostumeEvolution: "[=MJarnage=]" starts off with a mostly-human looking appearance, but later assumes a form closer to that of the original Carnage. |
| 277 | * FacialMarkings: When bonded to Mary Jane, the symbiote forms large black streaks on her face. |
| 278 | * LegacyCharacter: It is the fourth individual symbiote to bear the name "Carnage", and stands out by being the first to do so without first having bonded to Cletus Kasady. |
| 279 | * NotQuiteDead: After weakening its bond to MJ, Gwen causes her corrupted gummy spiders to turn on Knull's living abyss -- seemingly killing the gestalt symbiote. However, the final panel shows some of it still remains inside MJ. |
| 280 | * OverlyLongTongue: "[=MJarnage=]" has a prehensile tongue that makes Venom's seem small in comparison, as shown in her concept art -- where it's looped around her hips and legs multiple times. |
| 281 | * PuppeteerParasite: It immediately takes over Mary Jane and enslaves her to Knull's will, forcing her to fight Gwen Stacy. |
| 282 | * RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver: While concept art showed it more-closely resembling the classic Carnage, the finalized design is still red-and-black, and a dangerous enemy for Ghost-Spider. |
| 283 | * SupernaturalGoldEyes: The symbiote turns MJ's sclerae yellow with [[RedEyesTakeWarning red irises]] after bonding to her. |
| 284 | * WhatHappenedToTheMouse: MJ is shown to still have some of the symbiote in her at the end of ''Gwenom vs. Carnage'', but no mention of it is made in ''ComicBook/SpiderGwenGwenverse''. |
| 285 | [[/folder]] |
| 286 | |
| 287 | !! Carnage's Main Hosts |
| 288 | [[folder:Cletus Kasady]] |
| 289 | !!Cletus Kasady |
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| 297 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' Carnage; Poison Carnage; Dark Carnage; Devil Carnage |
| 298 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''The Amazing Spider-Man'' #344; ''The Amazing Spider-Man'' #361 (as Carnage); ''Venomized'' #3 (as Carnage II and Poison Carnage); ''Web of Venom: Carnage Born'' (as Dark Carnage); ''Absolute Carnage'' #4 (as Devil Carnage) |
| 299 | |
| 300 | A psychopathic serial killer imprisoned for eleven consecutive life sentences, Cletus Kasady met Eddie Brock when the latter, separated from the Venom symbiote by the toxic touch of the supervillain Styx, became his cellmate. Learning of Brock's grudge against Spider-Man, Kasady tried to convert him to his nihilistic philosophy, mocking Eddie over his claims to have once been the supervillain Venom. Repeatedly rebuked, Kasady decided to murder his cellmate, but before he could the Venom symbiote entered the cell and rebonded to Eddie. Venom broke free, leaving behind a newly birthed spawn and a terrified and jealous Kasady. Sensing his desire for the power Eddie possessed, the spawn of the Venom symbiote dripped onto Cletus' hand and bonded with him, transforming him into the monstrous '''Carnage'''. |
| 301 | ---- |
| 302 | -> See [[Characters/MarvelComicsCletusKasady his character page]] here. |
| 303 | [[/folder]] |
| 304 | |
| 305 | [[folder:Ben Reilly]] |
| 306 | !!Ben Reilly |
| 307 | [[quoteright:250:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/spider-carnage_169.jpg]] |
| 308 | !!!'''Alter Ego:''' Spider-Carnage |
| 309 | !!!'''First Appearance:''' ''The Amazing Spider-Man'' Vol. 1, #145; ''The Amazing Spider-Man'' Vol., 1 #410 (as Spider-Carnage) |
| 310 | |
| 311 | -> ''"I am reborn in BLOOD and AGONY! I am remade into a bringer of DEATH and DESTRUCTION! CHAOS is my only love - and CARNAGE is my name!"'' |
| 312 | |
| 313 | One of the two clone "brothers" of Peter Parker created by the Jackal, Ben Reilly believed himself to be the original Spider-Man and convinced Peter to retire, taking over the identity for a time. |
| 314 | \ |
| 315 | When Ben learned that Carnage had escaped Ravencroft, an investigation revealed that the symbiote had left Cletus Kasady and taken over security chief John Jameson. During their fight, the Carnage symbiote left Jameson and latched onto Ben, bonding with him and transforming him into "Spider-Carnage". Spider-Carnage was stopped from killing Peter Parker by Ben's willpower, but after learning his friend Seward Trainer may have been behind the clone debacle, the symbiote overwhelmed him and set out to take revenge. Ben regained enough control to seek out Cletus Kasady, who the symbiote tried to return to when it realized that he was dying due to their separation. To stop this from happening, Ben elected to contain the symbiote within his own body and remain in Ravencroft. The symbiote left Ben when John Jameson flooded his cell with microwave radiation; but before it could be captured, it escaped through the room's sink and reunited with Cletus. |
| 316 | ---- |
| 317 | * BadassBoast: After successfully taking Ben over, the symbiote lets out the header statement. |
| 318 | * BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind: Ben was continually fighting the symbiote for control of his body, and eventually managed to expel it. |
| 319 | --> '''Cletus:''' You can't beat it. You can't control it. It's a disease--a cancer growing inside you--spreading its fingers throughout your brain--altering your perceptions--twisting you into what it wants to be!\ |
| 320 | '''Symbiote:''' And I want you to be a bloody piece of meat that I can play with! I want you to be small! Give in to me!\ |
| 321 | '''Ben:''' [[UnusualEuphemism Rub a lamp]], pal--this is my head--this is my mind--my will against yours--and I won't be cowed in my own head! |
| 322 | * BreakoutVillain: Despite only appearing in three issues, Spider-Carnage has appeared in ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries'', ''VideoGame/SpiderManWebOfShadows'', and ''VideoGame/TheAmazingSpiderMan2''. |
| 323 | * CloneAngst: Both Peter and Ben believed themselves to be the original Spider-Man, although Ben had convinced Peter to retire as Spider-Man. The discovery of a skeleton wearing the charred remnants of a Spider-Man costume threw them both into a second round of existential crisis because it was found in the same smokestack where Spider-Man had cremated his apparently-dead clone.[[note]]The body found was actually that of a fourth Spider-Man clone that the Jackel killed and left in Ben's place specifically to {{troll}} them both.[[/note]] For Ben, this was only made worse when he learned that his best friend Seward Trainer was involved with the bad guys responsible for the whole Clone Saga debacle. Add the [[AxCrazy Carnage symbiote]] to the mix, and it's a recipe for disaster. |
| 324 | * ConsultingAConvictedKiller: In a desperate bid to learn how to control the symbiote, presumably to see if he can possibly use it for good, Ben breaks into Ravencroft to see Cletus. |
| 325 | * DemonHead: An in-universe example occurs when Ben forms one to tell a couple he saved from some muggers to get away. |
| 326 | * FireAndBrimstoneHell: The mental plane Ben fights the symbiote on is depicted as this. |
| 327 | * FightingFromTheInside: Ben struggled to overcome the symbiote's control of his body, and ultimately succeeded in expelling it. |
| 328 | * IAmLegion: After arguing with Peter about Seward Trainer, Ben angrily swings away, and refers to himself with "we" while doing so. |
| 329 | * IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight: Peter tries this on Ben. It works, but barely. |
| 330 | --> '''Peter:''' Ben... don't... don't do this.\ |
| 331 | '''Symbiote:''' I'm sorry... Ben is not available at the moment... please leave a message at the sound of the tearing flesh and he'll try to get back to you. |
| 332 | * IndulgentFantasySegue: While using his new powers to stop some muggers, Ben envisions ripping them apart, and very nearly does so. |
| 333 | * JaggedMouth: Like the original Carnage, Spider-Carnage had black fangs that blended into his mask. |
| 334 | * LegacyCharacter: The Carnage symbiote ditched Cletus and took over John Jameson before jumping to Ben Reilly and bonding to him. |
| 335 | * PaintTheTownRed: The symbiote declares this to be its intent during one of its mental arguments with Ben Reilly. |
| 336 | --> '''Ben:''' No... leave him alone. Let him live.\ |
| 337 | '''Symbiote:''' Be quiet, Spider! Can't you seem I'm trying to work! Now shut up... you lose! I'm in control of this body now! And, as my old friend Cletus taught me... it's time to start painting this town a lovely shade of red. |
| 338 | * PowerFist: The symbiote forms a hand out of Ben's chest to try and punch its way into Cletus's cell. |
| 339 | * PowerLimiter: The symbiote merging with him dulls Ben's Spider-Sense, but doesn't completely remove it. |
| 340 | * RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver: In ''Spider-Man'' Vol. 1, #67 the blue areas on Spider-Carnage's arms and legs were colored black. |
| 341 | * RooftopConfrontation: Spider-Carnage fights Peter, John Jameson, and the Ravencroft crew on top of a hospital. |
| 342 | * SealedInsideAPersonShapedCan: Ben regains control long enough to tell John Jameson to stick him in a Ravencroft cell, fully intending to spend the rest of his life in it if it means keeping Carnage contained. |
| 343 | * SuperPoweredEvilSide: When symbiote successfully took over Ben it caused him to behave exactly as Cletus had, though he tried to fight its influence. |
| 344 | * TaintedVeins: The blue areas of Ben's Spider-Man costume are covered in red veins. |
| 345 | * WeHardlyKnewYe: Ben was only Spider-Carnage for three issues before the symbiote returned to Cletus. |
| 346 | [[/folder]] |
| 347 | |
| 348 | [[folder:Norrin Radd]] |
| 349 | !!Norrin Radd |
| 350 | [[quoteright:246:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/carnage_cosmic_4221.gif]] |
| 351 | !!! '''Alter Ego''' Carnage Cosmic |
| 352 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' #48; ''The Amazing Spider-Man'' Vol. 1 #430 (as Carnage Cosmic) |
| 353 | |
| 354 | -> ''"My mind is aflame with MADNESS! OUTRAGE, WRATH, and CHAOS now smolder within me! I long to give vent to my most wanton desires and my basest emotions! The Silver Surfer is no more! In his place soars... THE CARNAGE COSMIC!"'' |
| 355 | |
| 356 | The cosmically-powered Norrin Radd -- alias the Silver Surfer -- is the former (and sometimes current) Herald of Galactus. |
| 357 | |
| 358 | In an effort to cut costs, the new chief of security at Ravencroft weakened the microwave radiation keeping Carnage in his cell. Naturally, Cletus promptly escaped and headed to the Daily Bugle to pick a fight with Spider-Man, injuring Martha Robertson in the process. Spider-Man came out of retirement to do battle... and the Silver Surfer crashed the party. The symbiote recognized him as a Herald of Galactus and abandoned Cletus in terror, later ambushing the Surfer and bonding to him. Cletus revealed that he had terminal stomach cancer the symbiote was keeping in check, and was hospitalized. While Spider-Man tries to rally the superheroes against the threat of a cosmically-empowered Carnage, the Surfer flew out into space to try to suppress the symbiote, but was taken over and returned to Earth. Upon learning that Cletus was dying without it, however, the symbiote ditched Radd and returns to its original host, and the Silver Surfer imprisoned Carnage in an inescapable energy prison... [[CardboardPrison from which he later escaped]]. |
| 359 | ---- |
| 360 | * BreakoutVillain: Not to the extent of Spider-Carnage, but enough that he received a WhatIf comic where he fights the Avengers before committing suicide, and cameoed in ''Superior Carnage'' #5. |
| 361 | * CurbStompBattle: The combined power of the Carnage symbiote and the Power Cosmic completely overwhelms Spider-Man and the Avengers in ''WhatIf... The Avengers Battled The Carnage Cosmic?'' It's only Radd regaining control of himself long enough to commit suicide that stops him from killing everyone. |
| 362 | * DrivenToSuicide: In the ''What If'' comic that showed what might have happened if the symbiote had decided to stay with the Silver Surfer, Carnage Cosmic almost kills the Avengers. Norrin regains control of himself long enough to [[DrivenToSuicide fly himself]] and the symbiote [[HurlItIntoTheSun into the sun]] to keep it from hurting anyone else. |
| 363 | * FightingFromTheInside: Norrin flies himself and the symbiote into space to stop it from killing innocents while he tries to fight it off. It succeeds in breaking him and returns to Earth... only to find that Cletus is dying without it. |
| 364 | * AGodAmI: Carnage really enjoyed having access to the Power Cosmic. |
| 365 | * HumanoidAbomination: Radd by himself is a god-like entity due to the Power Cosmic, and the already Lovecraftian symbiote taking over him results in a threat the likes of which even the Avengers couldn't stop. |
| 366 | * ICannotSelfTerminate: Radd asks Spider-Man to kill him before the symbiote takes him over completely. |
| 367 | * JaggedMouth: As with most depictions of Carnage in the 1990's, he has black teeth that blend into his face. |
| 368 | * LegacyCharacter: The symbiote ditches Cletus out of terror and jumps Norrin in an alleyway, only returning to Cletus when it learns that he'll die without it. |
| 369 | * MindRape: The symbiote forces Cletus' memories onto Radd in an effort to break him. |
| 370 | * MonstrousMandibles: Carnage Cosmic had four decorative spiked projections extending from his cheekbones and jawline. |
| 371 | * RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver: ''Almost'' averted, as aside from his face and teeth, Carnage Cosmic is completely red. |
| 372 | * SealedEvilInACan: After returning the symbiote to Cletus, Norrin traps him in an inescapable energy field. |
| 373 | * SkySurfing: Carnage Cosmic uses the Silver Surfer's Cosmic Surfboard covered in the symbiote's biomass. |
| 374 | * SpikesOfVillainy: The main thing differentiating Radd's Carnage form from other hosts - aside from the giant surfboard - was that he was covered in huge spikes. |
| 375 | * TakingYouWithMe: At the end of his ''WhatIf'' comic, the Silver Surfer commits suicide by flying into the sun, and takes the Carnage symbiote with him. |
| 376 | * ThatManIsDead: Proclaims "The Silver Surfer is no more!" when revealing himself to Spider-Man. |
| 377 | * WeHardlyKnewYe: Silver Surfer was only Carnage Cosmic for two issues (and a non-canon ''WhatIf'') before the symbiote returned to Cletus, but he was acknowledged by Klaw as one of its four major hosts alongside Cletus, Ben Reilly, and Tanis Neives. |
| 378 | * WhatTheHellHero: In an effort to make him think he's not that different from Cletus, the symbiote dredges up memories of all the planets he callously helped Galactus devour, including one that had been conquered by symbiotes. |
| 379 | * YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: The ''What If?'' issue had Spidey guess that, like in the main story, the symbiote would eventually return to the dying Cletus. Instead, the symbiote shot down that assumption and revealed that it was just going to let Cletus die because of how pathetic a host he was when compared to the Silver Surfer. |
| 380 | [[/folder]] |
| 381 | |
| 382 | [[folder:Karl Malus]] |
| 383 | !!Karl Malus |
| 384 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/supcar_7280.jpg]] |
| 385 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' Superior Carnage |
| 386 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Spider-Woman'' #50; ''Superior Carnage'' #2 (as Superior Carnage) |
| 387 | |
| 388 | Growing up, Doctor Karlin "Karl" Malus was fascinated by the exploits of the Fantastic Four and graduated with a degree in biology, wanting to study the science behind superpowers. Unable to get money through legal means, Karl turned to crime and set up the Institute for Supranormality Research with backing from criminal organizations. Through illegal human testing, Malus developed supersoldier serums, but his desire to experiment on an already superpowered individual went unrealized until Richard Deacon, a supervillain called the Fly, came to him looking for a power boost. Malus' experiments brought him into conflict with Jessica Drew, the first Spider-Woman; and later Captain America. Malus was eventually hired by Power Broker, Inc. to supply superhumanly strong wrestlers for the Unlimited Class Wrestling Federation, though this arrangement backfired when the serum he used drove most of his subjects insane and his spine was broken. Wheelchair-bound, Malus was later recruited by his old friend the Wizard, who sought his help in controlling Carnage... by forcibly transferring the symbiote to his body and controlling him instead. Resentful of the Wizard's trickery, Malus nevertheless was forced to become the "Superior Carnage", joining Wizard's attack on city hall and coming into conflict with the Superior Spider-Man. Malus ultimately lost control of the symbiote and killed Klaw, and was stripped of it and eaten by the symbiote-controlled Wizard. However, he managed to survive the experience, emerging and returning to his mad science career...and having gained a symbiote's powers in the process. |
| 389 | ---- |
| 390 | * AdaptiveArmor: Under the Wizard's direction, the Carnage symbiote takes on the appearance of body armor to mock Agent Venom. |
| 391 | * BackFromTheDead: Malus survived being eaten by Carnage, "gestating" inside him for a while... and [[CameBackStrong emerging with symbiotic powers himself]]. |
| 392 | * BadassBandolier: Rocks one as part of his "superior" look. |
| 393 | * BadassLongcoat: Manifests one when the Wizard whines about too many superheroes and villains wearing PaintedOnPants and SensualSpandex. After taking control of Malus, the symbiote remarks that it thought the coat was a stupid addition until it realized it could [[CreepySouvenir accessorize it]] with the tongues of Spider-Man's {{Mooks}}. |
| 394 | * BlackEyesOfCrazy: As Superior Carnage, he has black sclera and glowing red pupil-less irises, though he has BlankWhiteEyes when the symbiote takes over. |
| 395 | * BladeBelowTheShoulder: Forms a curved sword-like blade on his left arm when assuming his "superior" look. |
| 396 | * BoxedCrook: Malus kept finding himself in this situation whenever he was arrested, having his bail paid in exchange for access to his knowledge on superpowers. |
| 397 | * BroughtDownToNormal: After Malus loses control of the symbiote and kills Klaw, the shockwave strips Malus of the symbiote. The symbiote takes over the Wizard and promptly eats Malus. |
| 398 | * EatenAlive: Karl is eaten off-panel by a Carnage-controlled Wizard. He survives and eventually emerges as a human-symbiote hybrid. |
| 399 | * EmpoweredBadassNormal: Was a crippled MadScientist before bonding to the Carnage symbiote. |
| 400 | * EvilCounterpart: The whole point of Wizard recruiting Carnage was to create one for Agent Venom. Like Flash Thompson, Malus is wheelchair-bound without the symbiote, though rather than being from a military background he is a scientist specializing in superpowers. |
| 401 | * EvilCripple: He was wheelchair-bound thanks to having his spine broken by insane super-strong wrestlers he created for Power Broker Inc. |
| 402 | * FightingFromTheInside: Both Malus and the symbiote were ''very'' resentful at being forced to obey the Wizard and being separated from its favorite host respectively. Malus even warned Klaw that if the Wizard's control faltered for even a moment, the symbiote would take over and eviscerate them all in revenge for what they did to Cletus. |
| 403 | * FingerFirearms: Of a sort: Malus launched a flurry of shurikens formed from the symbiote's fingertips at Superior Spider-Man's Spiderlings, decapitating them. |
| 404 | * FromNobodyToNightmare: Malus went from a relatively obscure Spider-Woman villain to the new Carnage. |
| 405 | * GlowingEyesOfDoom: [[RedEyesTakeWarning Red ones]] as Superior Carnage, though he has BlankWhiteEyes when the symbiote takes over. |
| 406 | * HalfHumanHybrid: Rather than dying after the Carnage symbiote ate him, Malus assimilated some of it into himself and was reborn as a human/symbiote hybrid. |
| 407 | * LegacyCharacter: When Wizard is unable to mind control the original Carnage due to Cletus Kasady being in a coma, he extracts the symbiote and stuffs it down his old friend Dr. Karl Malus' throat. |
| 408 | * LovecraftianSuperpower: Though his use of them is more sporadic than Kasady's, Malus uses tentacles to turn a flamethrower into an ArmCannon. |
| 409 | * MadScientist: Dr. Malus, inspired by [[ReedRichardsIsUseless Reed Richards]] of the ComicBook/FantasticFour, got a degree in biology from the University of California and once ran the Institute for Supranormality Research, experimenting on super-powered individuals and supplying the LA mob with PsychoSerum formulas. |
| 410 | * MoreTeethThanTheOsmondFamily: Though they're not as pronounced as they are when the symbiote takes over. |
| 411 | * NoSell: Uses tentacles to turn a flamethrower into an ArmCannon, remarking that the symbiote doesn't mind the heat so much if it's the one dishing it out. |
| 412 | * NotQuiteDead: Malus was seemingly killed when the Carnage symbiote ate him, but was later revealed to not only have survived but to have assimilated part of it into himself. |
| 413 | * TokenGoodTeammate: While Malus is ''not'' a good person by any stretch of the word, he ''is'' [[EvenEvilHasStandards appalled]] by Klaw's drone-like obedience to Wizard and at his old friend's [[SanitySlippage decrepit mental state]]. |
| 414 | * RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver: The symbiote becomes noticeably red-and-black again, and although it's subdued by the Wizard it's still plenty AxCrazy. |
| 415 | * RoaringRampageOfRevenge: The first thing Malus does after becoming Carnage is try to kill the Wizard. |
| 416 | * SuperPoweredEvilSide: When the Wizard's mind control slipped up after being defenestrated by Spider-Man, the symbiote partially reverts to its original appearance and rampages. |
| 417 | * SuperheroPackingHeat: As Agent Venom's EvilCounterpart he is equipped with an arsenal of firearms, though the symbiote is markedly fond of disemboweling its victims instead. |
| 418 | * TakeThat: Malus proclaims that Kasady was a fool for being so obsessed with chaos when much more power could be attained with even a little focus. |
| 419 | [[/folder]] |
| 420 | |
| 421 | [[folder:Norman Osborn]] |
| 422 | !!Norman Osborn |
| 423 | [[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/amazing_spider_man_vol_1_799_mcguinness_variant_textless.jpg]] |
| 424 | [[caption-width-right:300:Red Goblin]] |
| 425 | [[caption-width-right:300:[[labelnote:Carnage]] https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/carnage_norman_osborn.png [[/labelnote]]]] |
| 426 | |
| 427 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' Red Goblin I; Carnage |
| 428 | !!! '''Host To:''' Carnage, Dark Carnage |
| 429 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #14; ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #796 (as Red Goblin) |
| 430 | |
| 431 | A longtime enemy of Spider-Man, ComicBook/NormanOsborn -- aka the Green Goblin -- was stripped of his powers and AxCrazy split personality by Spider-Man following his attempt to take over New York as the Goblin King. Despite Norman initially revelling in his newfound sanity, he eventually realized he was at a disadvantage against Spider-Man and became increasingly desperate to reawaken the Goblin within. When science and magic failed to re-empower him, Osborn hired a pair of mercenaries to retrieve the Carnage Symbiote from the government facility it was being kept in and bonded to it, thinking that he could control its bloodlust. Despite its initial resistance to Osborn's attempts to control it, Carnage had discovered that it somehow liked the idea of slowly killing people instead of out-and-out insta-kills. Osborn convinced the symbiote to let him have "the driver's seat" in order to show it more of that sort of violence. The symbiote purged Osborn of the vaccine, and he took the Goblin Formula to become a symbiote-Goblin hybrid; kidnapping J. Jonah Jameson and re-discovering Spider-Man's civilian identity of Peter Parker. |
| 432 | \ |
| 433 | With this knowledge, Norman waged a war on Spider-Man by targeting Peter Parker's loved ones. While targeting Harry Osborn and his family, he also bonded his grandson Normie to a piece of the Carnage symbiote. Norman was eventually stopped by the combined efforts of Peter, his allies and Norman's own ego, in the end receiving brain damage for his efforts. |
| 434 | ---- |
| 435 | * BigRedDevil: Norman seems to be going for a demonic vibe as the Red Goblin, being RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver and possessing fangs, claws, and a long tail with two serrations on the end. |
| 436 | * BioArmor: The Red Goblin's outfit strongly resembles a red-and-black version of the Green Goblin armor from Sam Raimi's ''Spider-Man'' trilogy, with the addition of a JaggedMouth and a tail. |
| 437 | * BreathWeapon: His new abilities enabled him to breath flames, which he used as a weapon against Venom. |
| 438 | * TheCorrupter: He gave Normie some of the Carnage Symbiote, turning him into a smaller Red Goblin. |
| 439 | * CurbStompBattle: |
| 440 | ** Spider-Man is so terrified by the fact that Osborn has bonded to the Carnage symbiote that his brain almost shuts down and he flees without a single word besides "[[PrecisionFStrike #$%&]] [[OhCrap me]]." The Red Goblin effortlessly takes him down with a "Carnage-Bomb" and offers to let him live on one condition: Peter gives up being Spider-Man. |
| 441 | ** The next issue features him dishing one out to all of Spidey's closest allies. The only one who puts up anything resembling a fight is Anti-Venom, and even then only because the latter has anti-Symbiote powers. |
| 442 | ** The finale has him taking out both Venom and the Superior Octopus, though it didn't help that MJ accidentally had the symbiote deterrents on in Stark Tower and J. Jonah Jameson dropped in with a Spider-Slayer. |
| 443 | * DressedInLayers: Osborn puts a Green Goblin costume on over the Carnage symbiote. |
| 444 | * ExtraEyes: In addition to his yellow-and-red eyes, the Carnage symbiote's white eyespots act as the Red Goblin's BigOlEyebrows. |
| 445 | * FakingTheDead: Impaled by a girder, Norman pretends to be dying to troll Peter before revealing he's bonded to the symbiote and transforming into the Red Goblin for the first time. |
| 446 | * GoodCounterpart: ''ComicBook/SpiderManDeadpool'' #47 contains a brief appearance by a version of the Red Goblin who allied with Earth's heroes against the Manipulator. |
| 447 | * HealingFactor: Both the Goblin Formula and the Symbiote give you one so, yeah... Even if you can put as much as a dent in this guy, he'll heal in way that could give Wolverine a run for his money. Being impaled is no big deal anymore, at least. |
| 448 | * HellishPupils: The Red Goblin has yellow eyes with red vertically-slitted pupils. |
| 449 | * HeroKiller: He murders Flash Thompson for ruining his plan to torture Peter's friends and loved ones. |
| 450 | * HijackingCthulhu: Norman ''thought'' he could do this, but the symbiote initially took over him. He quickly persuades it to listen to him by offering to teach it new ways to make people suffer. |
| 451 | -->'''Norman:''' Stop! I am in control! Norman Osborn! The Green G-\ |
| 452 | '''Carnage Symbiote:''' G-g-give it up! There's no "I" here! And green is out! There's only red! We're making everything red! They'll be soaked in it! Drenched in it! And we are -- Carnage! Hahahahahaaaa! |
| 453 | * HomingProjectile: His Pumpkin Bombs are now oddly adorable "Carnage Bombs" that can follow and latch onto their targets by biting them. |
| 454 | * ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice: |
| 455 | ** Norman is impaled through the back by a girder and tricks Spider-Man into thinking he's dying before he unveils his Red Goblin form. |
| 456 | ** After Spider-Man saves Liz Allan from suffering Gwen Stacy's fate, Harry Osborn rams his father with an old Goblin Glider - impaling his chest in the same manner Norman had died the first time. |
| 457 | ** Inflicts this on Phil Urich after finding his treacherous protege raiding the Goblin cache he was residing in. |
| 458 | * JaggedMouth: The Red Goblin's mouth has serrated red teeth that blend into the rest of his mask. |
| 459 | * MindRape: Peter exploits Osborn's ego to trick him into rejecting the Carnage symbiote, then beats him to a pulp. When Osborn tries to rebond to the Carnage symbiote, Spider-Man immolates it and Osborn is hit with the full force of its dying agony, sending him into an AngstComa. He recovers... somewhat, as he's now stark raving mad and under the impression that he's Cletus Kasady and that Spider-Man is Norman Osborn. |
| 460 | * MyGodWhatHaveIDone: In ''Red Goblin: Red Death'', even the psychopathic Norman Osborn is left horrified when the Carnage symbiote tricks him into letting it go on a killing spree. |
| 461 | -->'''Norman:''' How could I allow this to happen? |
| 462 | * NoSell: |
| 463 | ** He's strong enough to casually shrug off Miles Morales' Venom Strike, which has infamously struck down his Earth-1610 counterparts with ease. |
| 464 | ** He also resists a full power simultanious blast from Clash and the Human Torch - proving how he is completely immune to a symbiote's conventional weaknesses. |
| 465 | * OmnicidalManiac: Upon bonding to Osborn, the symbiote gleefully announces its intent to resume its mission to kill everyone in the world. However, Norman eventually manages to earn the symbiote's favour by showing it that it can possibly do more harm through more intricate means, speculating that the Carnage symbiote has actually gotten somewhat bored of mindless death and destruction. |
| 466 | * PartialTransformation: When interrogating Jameson, Norman is distracted by a rat and pounces on it. While attempting to use it as a DeadlyEuphemism, he eats it -- [[ShadowDiscretionShot his shadow shown sporting a fanged maw and claws]]. When he kills Phil Urich, he's similarly shown in shadow with only his arm transformed. |
| 467 | * PlayingWithFire: The Red Goblin was capable of creating explosive "Carnage Bombs", a flame-wreathed Carnage Glider, and breathing fire. |
| 468 | * PunchedAcrossTheRoom: When Osborn mortally wounds Flash Thompson, Symbiote Spider-Man Venomizes and punches him halfway across the city in a berserk rage. |
| 469 | * {{Pride}}: This is what ultimately defeats him -- Peter warns Osborn that if he kills him, he doesn't get credit for the kill; the Carnage symbiote does and thus Cletus Kasady. |
| 470 | * {{Sadist}}: Norman teaches the symbiote the joys of slowly torturing people to death, and offers to show it more nuanced ways to inflict death and suffering than turning people into confetti. |
| 471 | * ShockAndAwe: Due to wearing his Green Goblin costume under the symbiote, he's able to use his gloves' Sparkle Blasters to electrocute Flash Thompson. |
| 472 | * StoryBreakerPower: The Green Goblin formula? Turns you into a Spidey-level bruiser at the cost of your sanity. The Carnage symbiote? Turns you into a heavy hitter with a few specific weaknesses. The two ''combined''? Gives you a vastly-enhanced version of the Carnage symbiote's powers, and a combined HealingFactor that basically becomes Wolverine-Level, with ''none'' of the symbiote's weaknesses. Spidey's allies (including Miles and his infamously overpowered Venom Strikes, the Human Torch, and Agent Anti-Venom) drop like flies before him. |
| 473 | * ToThePain: The Red Goblin tells Spider-Man that he will kill everyone even tangentially-related to Peter Parker in ways too agonizing for him to comprehend if he catches him so much as wall-crawling. He keeps this promise by covertly slipping pieces of Carnage into them as seemingly nonlethal slivers in projectile attacks. He explains he can remotely will them to work their way up the victim's circulatory system to the brain, killing them in an unimaginably agonizing way. |
| 474 | * UnderestimatingBadassery: Peter takes up Osborn's offer to stop being Spider-Man because not only is he heavily outgunned at this point, he surmises that Osborn is ''completely'' underestimating who he is; he's so gung-ho on ridding himself of the Spider, he's completely ignoring the "-Man" part of "Spider-Man", thus he's going to fight him as Peter Parker. |
| 475 | * WreathedInFlames: The Red Goblin's glider is augmented by symbiote biomass and is wreathed in flames. |
| 476 | * YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: He rips off the symbiote (who tells him doing such is a ''bad idea'') when the opportunity to kill Spider-Man with his bare hands as the Green Goblin seems to present itself. |
| 477 | * YouNeedABreathMint: Noxious-looking fumes billow out of the Red Goblin's mouth whenever he speaks. It's presumably meant to be invocative of sulfur, given his BigRedDevil look. |
| 478 | [[/folder]] |
| 479 | |
| 480 | [[folder:Normie Osborn]] |
| 481 | !!Normie Osborn |
| 482 | [[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/goblin_childeearth_616.png]] |
| 483 | [[caption-width-right:300:Goblin Childe]] |
| 484 | [[caption-width-right:300:[[labelnote:Red Goblin]] https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/redgoblin2_0.png [[/labelnote]]]] |
| 485 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' Goblin Childe, Red Goblin II |
| 486 | !!! '''Host To:''' Norman Osborn's Carnage offshoot, Rascal |
| 487 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #263; ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #799 (as Goblin Childe); ''Free Comic Book Day 2022: Spider-Man/Venom #1'' (as Red Goblin II); |
| 488 | |
| 489 | The son of Harry Osborn and Liz Allan, Norman "Normie" Harold Osborn idolized his grandfather, resented his father's apparent preference for his younger son Stanley, and hated Spider-Man. Normie was bonded to a piece of the Carnage symbiote by his grandfather, taking up the alias Goblin Childe, but ultimately turned against Norman when he saw how much of a monster his grandfather really was. Dylan Brock later recruits Normie to assist him in saving his father Eddie, giving him a symbiote —that Normie later names Rascal— to become the second Red Goblin. |
| 490 | ---- |
| 491 | -> See Characters/RedGoblin |
| 492 | [[/folder]] |
| 493 | |
| 494 | !!Carnage's Other Hosts |
| 495 | |
| 496 | [[folder:John Jameson]] |
| 497 | !!John Jonah Jameson III |
| 498 | [[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/carnage_john_jameson.jpg]] |
| 499 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' Man-Wolf; Carnage |
| 500 | !!! '''Host To:''' Carnage; Dark Carnage |
| 501 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #1 |
| 502 | |
| 503 | ---- |
| 504 | See Characters/SpiderManSupportingCharacters |
| 505 | [[/folder]] |
| 506 | |
| 507 | [[folder:Tanis Nieves]] |
| 508 | !!Tanis Nieves |
| 509 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/1678871_carnage_vol_1_3_page_12_tanis_nieves__earth_616.jpg]] |
| 510 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' Scorn, Carnage |
| 511 | !!! '''Host To:''' Carnage, Scorn |
| 512 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Carnage'' #1 |
| 513 | |
| 514 | Inspired by a troubled childhood to want to help people no matter what, Dr. Tanis Nieves became a psychiatrist and was assigned to Frances Barrison -- aka Shriek. When a battle between the Spider-Doppelgänger and Hall Industries' Iron Rangers cost Tanis one of her arms, she was outfitted with a biomechanical prosthetic created using samples harvested from the Carnage symbiote. The symbiote seized control of Tanis' prosthetic and bonded to her, attempting to take over her mind. When Tanis refused to submit to it, the Carnage symbiote used her to locate Cletus Kasady and returned to him, leaving a newborn spawn in Tanis' prosthetic that matured into the Scorn symbiote. |
| 515 | ---- |
| 516 | -> See Characters/MarvelComicsSymbioteHosts |
| 517 | [[/folder]] |
| 518 | |
| 519 | [[folder:Steve Rogers]] |
| 520 | !!Steve Rogers |
| 521 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/captain_america_in_absolute_carnage_variant.jpg]] |
| 522 | |
| 523 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' Captain America, Nomad, the Captain |
| 524 | !!! '''Host To:''' Carnage |
| 525 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' |
| 526 | |
| 527 | ---- |
| 528 | -> See ComicBook/CaptainAmerica |
| 529 | [[/folder]] |
| 530 | |
| 531 | [[folder:Logan]] |
| 532 | !!Logan |
| 533 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' Wolverine |
| 534 | !!! '''Host To:''' Tyrannosaurus; Mania; Carnage |
| 535 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Incredible Hulk'' #180 |
| 536 | |
| 537 | ---- |
| 538 | -> See ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} |
| 539 | [[/folder]] |
| 540 | |
| 541 | [[folder:Ben Grimm]] |
| 542 | !!Ben Grimm |
| 543 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/fantastic_four_carnage.png]] |
| 544 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' The Thing |
| 545 | !!! '''Host To:''' Carnage, Unnamed Symbiote |
| 546 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Fantastic Four'' #1 |
| 547 | |
| 548 | ---- |
| 549 | -> See ComicBook/TheThing |
| 550 | [[/folder]] |
| 551 | |
| 552 | [[folder:Clint Barton]] |
| 553 | !!Clint Barton |
| 554 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' Hawkeye, Goliath, Ronin |
| 555 | !!! '''Host To:''' Carnage |
| 556 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Tales of Suspense'' #57 |
| 557 | |
| 558 | ---- |
| 559 | -> See ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} |
| 560 | [[/folder]] |
| 561 | |
| 562 | [[folder:Bentley Wittman]] |
| 563 | !!Bentley Wittman |
| 564 | [[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/bentley_wittman_earth_616_and_carnage_klyntar_earth_616_from_superior_carnage_vol_1_5_0002.jpg]] |
| 565 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' The Wizard |
| 566 | !!! '''Host To:''' Carnage |
| 567 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Strange Tales'' #102 |
| 568 | ---- |
| 569 | -> See [[Characters/MarvelComicsFrightfulFour Frightful Four]] |
| 570 | [[/folder]] |
| 571 | |
| 572 | [[folder:Carla Unger]] |
| 573 | !!Carla Unger |
| 574 | [[quoteright:250:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/carla_unger_earth_616_002.jpg]] |
| 575 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' Carnage |
| 576 | !!! '''Host To:''' Carnage |
| 577 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Superior Carnage Annual'' #1 (April, 2014) |
| 578 | |
| 579 | ---- |
| 580 | [[/folder]] |
| 581 | |
| 582 | !!Dark Carnage's Other Hosts |
| 583 | |
| 584 | [[folder:Eric Morrell]] |
| 585 | !!Eric Morrell |
| 586 | [[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/eric_morrell_earth_616_from_web_of_venom_cult_of_carnage_vol_1_1_001.jpg]] |
| 587 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' |
| 588 | !!! '''Host To:''' Dark Carnage |
| 589 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Carnage, U.S.A.'' #1 |
| 590 | |
| 591 | ---- |
| 592 | [[/folder]] |
| 593 | |
| 594 | [[folder:John Jonah Jameson III]] |
| 595 | !!John Jonah Jameson III |
| 596 | [[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/john_jonah_jameson_iii_earth_616_from_absolute_carnage_lethal_protectors_vol_1_3_001.jpg]] |
| 597 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' Man-Wolf |
| 598 | !!! '''Host To:''' Carnage, Dark Carnage |
| 599 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #1 (March, 1963);[[note]]As Jameson[[/note]] ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #124 (September, 1973);[[note]]As Man-Wolf[[/note]] ''Amazing Fantasy'' #18 (March, 1996)[[note]]Chronologically[[/note]] |
| 600 | |
| 601 | ---- |
| 602 | -> See Characters/SpiderManSupportingCharacters |
| 603 | [[/folder]] |
| 604 | |
| 605 | [[folder:Chewie]] |
| 606 | !!Chewie |
| 607 | [[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/chewie.jpg]] |
| 608 | |
| 609 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' |
| 610 | !!! '''Host To:''' Dark Carnage |
| 611 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Giant-Size Ms. Marvel'' #1 |
| 612 | |
| 613 | ---- |
| 614 | -> See Characters/MarvelComicsCaptainMarvelSupportingCharacters |
| 615 | [[/folder]] |
| 616 | |
| 617 | [[folder:Carol Danvers]] |
| 618 | !!Carol Danvers |
| 619 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/carol_danvers_earth_616_and_venom_klyntar_earth_616_from_siege_spider_man_vol_1_1_0001.jpg]] |
| 620 | !!! '''Alter Egos:''' Ms. Marvel, Binary, Warbird, Captain Marvel |
| 621 | !!! '''Host To:''' Venom, Dark Carnage |
| 622 | !!! '''First Apperance:''' ''Marvel Super-Heroes'' #13 (March 1968) [[note]]As Carol Danvers[[/note]]; ''Ms. Marvel'' #1 (January 1977) [[note]]As Ms. Marvel[[/note]]; ''The Uncanny X-Men'' #164 (December 1982) [[note]]As Binary[[/note]]; ''The Avengers'' #4 (May 1998) [[note]]As Warbird[[/note]]; ''Avenging Spider-Man'' #9 (July 2012) [[note]]As Captain Marvel[[/note]] |
| 623 | |
| 624 | ---- |
| 625 | -> See ComicBook/CarolDanvers for more info. |
| 626 | [[/folder]] |
| 627 | |
| 628 | [[folder:Eddie Brock]] |
| 629 | !!Eddie Brock |
| 630 | [[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/carnage_eddie_brock.png]] |
| 631 | |
| 632 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' Venom, Anti-Venom, Toxin |
| 633 | !!! '''Host To:''' Venom, Anti-Venom, Toxin, Sleeper, Dark Carnage |
| 634 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Web of Spider-Man'' #18 (September, 1986);[[note]]As Eddie Brock.[[/note]] ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #299 (April, 1988);[[note]]As Venom.[[/note]] ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #569 (October, 2008);[[note]]As Anti-Venom.[[/note]] ''Venom'' Vol. 2 #17 (July, 2012);[[note]]As Toxin.[[/note]] |
| 635 | |
| 636 | ---- |
| 637 | -> See Characters/MarvelComicsEddieBrock |
| 638 | [[/folder]] |
| 639 | |
| 640 | [[folder:Arthur Krane]] |
| 641 | !!Arthur Krane |
| 642 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/extreme_carnage_alpha_vol_1_1_scorpion_comics_exclusive_virgin_variantjpg.jpg]] |
| 643 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' Carnage |
| 644 | !!! '''Host To:''' Dark Carnage |
| 645 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Extreme Carnage Alpha'' #1 (July, 2021) |
| 646 | |
| 647 | ---- |
| 648 | * DependingOnTheArtist: In ''ComicBook/ExtremeCarnage'' he's drawn with brown hair, but in ''ComicBook/{{Venom|2021}}'' he's drawn with grey hair -- making him resemble his father. |
| 649 | * EvenEvilHasStandards: Arthur Krane expresses distaste for the sexism that Gemma Shin is subjected to by other Friends of Humanity campaign workers, and was presumably being sincere about it since, unlike with everyone else, he had no reason to put up a NiceGuy façade around Gemma. |
| 650 | * MeaninglessVillainVictory: While Arthur Krane is now Senator in place of his father and the Friends of Humanity are more popular than ever, he feels he's nothing without Carnage and begs Agony to bring the symbiote back to him. |
| 651 | * TheQuisling: Arthur Krane -- addicted to the power he had as Carnage -- begs Gemma and Agony to help him get it back, swearing fealty to the Bleeding King in exchange for their assistance. |
| 652 | * SelfMadeOrphan: Arthur was plotting to murder his father and usurp his senate seat, and did so after bonding to the Carnage symbiote -- using it as a convenient scapegoat for having done so. |
| 653 | * TheSociopath: Arthur Krane is a sociopathic serial killer -- having killed small animals as a child before moving on to murdering homeless people and eventually his classmates and ex-girlfriends, to the extent that Carnage considers him to be a kindred spirit. |
| 654 | [[/folder]] |
| 655 | |
| 656 | [[folder:Elsie]] |
| 657 | !!Elsie |
| 658 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/carnage_elsie_earth_616_from_carnage_forever_vol_1_1_001jpg.jpg]] |
| 659 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' Carnage |
| 660 | !!! '''Host To:''' Dark Carnage |
| 661 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Carnage Forever'' #1 (February, 2022) |
| 662 | A young girl abused and neglected by her family, who stumbles across the Carnage symbiote after seeking refuge in the ruins of St. Estes'. |
| 663 | ---- |
| 664 | * AbusiveParents: Elsie's mother and step-father don't just neglect her -- kicking her out onto the street all day and not caring whether or not she comes home at night, they physically abuse and torture her by burning her arms. |
| 665 | * TheCorruptible: Elsie goes from being a fairly nice, if a bit standoffish, to gleefully taunting her stepfather over having skinned his dog and hung her pelt in a closet, devouring him, and then burning her stepmother alive. |
| 666 | * EnfantTerrible: Elsie is a semi-homeless young girl who lives with her abusive mother and stepfather in a derelict townhouse. After being bullied by some drunk college students, she takes refuge in the burnt-out ruins of St. Estes'... where she encounters the Carnage symbiote -- being piloted by Cletus Kasady's codex. The symbiote bonds to her, and Elsie is quickly indoctrinated into Cletus' nihilistic worldview, gleefully murdering the college students, skinning her step-father's dog alive, devouring her step-father, and burning her mother alive. |
| 667 | * HeyYou: Her mother refers to her exclusivly as "The Kid". |
| 668 | * ImAHumanitarian: When Elsie's abusive stepfather threatens to beat her to death after he discovers she skinned his dog, Elsie transforms into Carnage and devours him in front of her mother. |
| 669 | * RoaringRampageOfRevenge: After bonding to the Carnage symbiote, Elsie butchers a trio of drunk college students who bullied her, eats her abusive stepfather, and burns her mother alive. |
| 670 | * SelfMadeOrphan: After bonding to the Carnage symbiote, Elsie eats her stepfather and burns her mother alive. |
| 671 | [[/folder]] |
| 672 | |
| 673 | [[folder:Detective Jonathan Shayde]] |
| 674 | !!! '''Host To:''' Carnage |
| 675 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''ComicBook/{{Carnage|2022}}'' (Vol. 3) #1 |
| 676 | An NYPD detective obsessed with bringing the serial killer known as the Artist to justice, only to find himself swept up in the Carnage symbiote's pursuit of apotheosis. |
| 677 | ---- |
| 678 | * ContagiousHeroism: When they're stranded in space, "Cletus" delivers a speech about how it and Shayde are the only ones who can stop Carnage, before grousing that Shayde's good nature must be rubbing off on it since the real Cletus Kasady would want nothing more than to watch the world burn. |
| 679 | * CowboyCop: Shayde starts out a ByTheBookCop, but -- through his obsession with catching the Artist and "Cletus" trying to corrupt him into a KillerCop -- makes him more willing to bend or even break the rules to accomplish his goals. By the end of the series, he's broken by the Carnage symbiote and turns into a RabidCop. |
| 680 | * TheCorruptible: Being infected by a piece of the Carnage symbiote and later taken over by it slowly breaks his conviction that he's a good man, leaving him a RabidCop. |
| 681 | * {{Determinator}}: Shayde ''will'' bring Ken Neely to justice, no matter the risk to his own life or what he has to do to accomplish it. |
| 682 | * HearingVoices: When the Carnage symbiote left a piece of itself with Shayde, it also left a copy of Cletus Kasady's codex in his head. So now he hears the voice of the most dangerous serial killer on Earth in his mind. |
| 683 | * HeroicHost: He's bonded to a piece of the Carnage symbiote, which grants him superhuman strength, speed, and durability; a HealingFactor, all while leaving in a copy of Cletus Kasady's codex in his mind. The fact that he's still remotely sane and in control is a testament to his will, since typically just ''looking'' into Cletus's mind causes sever MindRape. |
| 684 | * LeeroyJenkins: He leaps through the energy vortex created by Hydro-Man's death throes to get to Ken Neely, which impresses the Carnage symbiote enough that it saves him to see how far he's willing to go to get his quarry. |
| 685 | * LivingOnBorrowedTime: Jon's body was shredded on a quantum level by the energy vortex emitted by Hydro-Man's death throes, and had Carnage not bonded him to a piece of itself he would've disintegrated. This leaves him dependant on the Carnage symbiote for survival... or so he believes, as Earth-31's Venom mocks him for falling for the old "you'll die without me" scam when the Carnage symbiote abandons him and nothing happens. |
| 686 | * MarriedToTheJob: Shayde notes to himself that his job is his life, and that without it he has nothing but an apartment that's empty save for beer bottles and pizza boxes. |
| 687 | * RabidCop: While he starts off the series as a ByTheBookCop, his experiences with "Cletus Kasady" and the Carnage symbiote corrupt him into a BloodKnight who's more than eager to use the tactics serial killers use to hunt their victims in order to hunt them. |
| 688 | * SaveTheVillain: |
| 689 | ** After being dropped off in Niffleheim, his piece of the Carnage symbiote tries to goad him into killing Malekith. Shayde can't bring himself to do so even when made aware of the warlord's laundry list of atrocities, instead freeing Malekith and trying to help him escape from Hel and Carnage. |
| 690 | ** He unwittingly derails Ken Neely and Drorin Runehewer's attempt to assassinate the Carnage symbiote, enabling it to escape and become more powerful than ever. In mocking "thanks" for saving it, it takes him as its next host and spends the rest of the series mentally torturing him. |
| 691 | * SuperCop: Like Patrick Mulligan, Jon Shayde is a symbiote-enhanced police officer. Unfortunately, that symbiote happens to be a piece of Carnage. |
| 692 | * TakenOffTheCase: Shayde is taken off the Artist case when he reveals a symbiote -- and not just ''any'' symbiote, but Carnage -- is involved, and goes AWOL out of frustration. |
| 693 | * WorthyOpponent: Carnage sees him as something of a kindred spirit, and saves his life as a test to see how far he's willing to go to bring Ken Neely to justice. [[spoiler:Although he regrets his decision after Shayde saves Malekith, disrupting Carnage's plan]]. |
| 694 | [[/folder]] |
| 695 | |
| 696 | [[folder:Cletus Kasady (First Clone)]] |
| 697 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/cletus_clone.png]] |
| 698 | !!! '''Host To:''' Carnage |
| 699 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''ComicBook/{{Deadpool|2022}}'' (Vol. 9) #4 |
| 700 | A short-lived clone of Cletus Kasady created by Harrower. |
| 701 | ---- |
| 702 | ->'''For more information, please see ''[[Characters/MarvelComicsCletusKasady here]]'''''. |
| 703 | [[/folder]] |
| 704 | |
| 705 | [[folder:Cletus Kasady (Second Clone)]] |
| 706 | !!! '''Host To:''' Carnage |
| 707 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''ComicBook/{{Carnage|2023}}'' (Vol. 4) #1 |
| 708 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/cletus_clone_2.jpg]] |
| 709 | A clone of Cletus Kasady created by the Carnage symbiote to aid it in its pursuit of understanding what it means to be a god. |
| 710 | ---- |
| 711 | ->'''For more information, please see ''[[Characters/MarvelComicsCletusKasady here]]'''''. |
| 712 | [[/folder]] |
| 713 | |
| 714 | !!Carnage Offshoots |
| 715 | |
| 716 | [[folder:Populace of Doverton, Colorado]] |
| 717 | !!Populace of Doverton, Colorado |
| 718 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/doverton.png]] |
| 719 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' |
| 720 | !!! '''Host To:''' Carnage; Dark Carnage |
| 721 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Carnage, U.S.A.'' #1 |
| 722 | |
| 723 | Travelling to the city of Doverton, Colorado, Cletus Kasady gorged the Carnage symbiote on the contents of a slaughterhouse and sent offshoots of his symbiote through the sewers, bonding it to almost everyone in the city. While the residents were freed with intervention from Captain America, Wolverine, Hawkeye, the Thing, Spider-Man, Agent Venom, Mercury Team, and Scorn; a few years later Cletus returned -- now bonded to an offshoot of the deific Grendel symbiote -- and inducted them into a cult worshipping the dark god Knull. When John Jameson arrived to investigate the strange occurrences, Dark Carnage infected him with a piece of his symbiote and sacrificed the residents of Doverton to Knull. |
| 724 | ---- |
| 725 | [[/folder]] |
| 726 | |
| 727 | !!Carnage IV / Dark Carnage's Offshoots |
| 728 | |
| 729 | [[folder:Carnage IV Offshoot]] |
| 730 | !!Carnage IV Offshoot |
| 731 | !!! '''Hosts:''' Norman Osborn, Dylan Brock |
| 732 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''ComicBook/AbsoluteCarnage'' #1 |
| 733 | |
| 734 | An offshoot of the Dark Carnage symbiote bonded to Norman Osborn, who at the time believed himself to be Cletus Kasady. It was seemingly killed by Dylan Brock, who kept a surviving piece and sought to learn how to control it using his powers; though he was eventually forced to destroy it when Dark Carnage attempted to use it to take him over. |
| 735 | ---- |
| 736 | * NotQuiteDead: Dylan Brock used his powers to blow it up at the end of ''Absolute Carnage'', but a piece survived. Dylan kept it and wanted to tame it, but learned the hard way that EvilIsNotAToy and ended up killing it in ''[[ComicBook/VenomDonnyCates Venom]]'' #25. |
| 737 | * TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: In the animated shorts tying in to ''Absolute Carnage'', it continually berates Norman Osborn as his original personality tries to reassert itself. |
| 738 | * WeaponizedOffspring: It's an offshoot of the Dark Carnage symbiote, which can remotely control it at-will. |
| 739 | [[/folder]] |
| 740 | |
| 741 | [[folder:Carnage Doppelgängers]] |
| 742 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/cult_of_carnage.png]] |
| 743 | !!! '''Hosts:''' Numerous unnamed Ravencroft patients, Dan Andrews |
| 744 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''ComicBook/AbsoluteCarnage'' #1 |
| 745 | |
| 746 | Offshoots of the Dark Carnage symbiote bonded to the inmates of Ravencroft Institute for the Criminally Insane, turning them into a horde of four-armed monsters. |
| 747 | ---- |
| 748 | * JaggedMouth: They're usually drawn with black fangs that blend into their faces. |
| 749 | * LesCollaborateurs: Most of their hosts willingly submitted to them, having already been bloodthirsty murderers and criminals. |
| 750 | * MultiArmedAndDangerous: Patterned after the original Doppelgänger, they have multiple arms -- though they only have four rather than six. |
| 751 | * ToServeMan: They're shown chowing down on civilians in the ''Scream'' and ''Deadpool'' tie-ins. |
| 752 | * WeaponizedOffspring: They're offshoots of the Dark Carnage symbiote spawned to create an army and overrun New York. |
| 753 | [[/folder]] |
| 754 | |
| 755 | [[folder:Miles Morales's Symbiote]] |
| 756 | !!Miles Morales's Symbiote |
| 757 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/miles_morales_spider_carnage.png]] |
| 758 | !!! '''Hosts:''' [[Characters/MarvelComicsMilesMorales Miles Morales]], [[Characters/MarvelComicsJJonahJameson J. Jonah Jameson]] |
| 759 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''ComicBook/AbsoluteCarnage'' #2, ''ComicBook/AbsoluteCarnage: Miles Morales'' #1 |
| 760 | |
| 761 | An offshoot of the Dark Carnage symbiote bonded to Miles Morales, turning him into a six-armed Carnage Doppelgänger. |
| 762 | ---- |
| 763 | * ContinuitySnarl: Miles Morales spends most of his tie-in under the symbiote's thrall and struggling to break free. After he manages to zap it off himself, he eventually rebonds to it in order to eavesdrop on Dark Carnage's hive-mind and is shown to be in control of it. In ''Absolute Carnage'' #5, however, the symbiote is shown to be back in the driver's seat -- with Donny Cates stating this was due to a lack of communication between himself and Saladin Ahmed over how the latter was going to end his tie-in. |
| 764 | * JaggedMouth: When drawn by Ryan Stegman, it has red fangs that blend into the rest of its face. |
| 765 | * MultiArmedAndDangerous: Unlike all the other Carnage Doppelgängers, it has six arms. |
| 766 | * ReligiousBruiser: The symbiote is zealously devout to Knull and Dark Carnage, regarding Miles as nothing more than "host-flesh" whose will is nothing compared to Knull's malice. |
| 767 | * WeaponizedOffspring: It's an offshoot of the Dark Carnage symbiote bonded to Miles Morales. |
| 768 | * YouDontLookLikeYou: When drawn by Ryan Stegman, it's black with a red face and teeth, a black spiral-shaped eyespot, red lower arms and legs. When drawn by Federico Vicentini, it's dark red with a yellow spiral, has bone fangs, and has spider-like chelicerae. |
| 769 | [[/folder]] |
| 770 | |
| 771 | !! Notable Alternate Versions of Carnage |
| 772 | |
| 773 | [[folder:Bizarnage]] |
| 774 | !!Bizarnage |
| 775 | [[quoteright:312:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/297318_188412_bizarnage.jpg]] |
| 776 | !!! '''Universe:''' Earth-9602 |
| 777 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''[[ComicBook/AmalgamUniverse Spider-Boy]]'' #1 |
| 778 | |
| 779 | --> ''"You am going nowhere, Spider-Boy--except going to die!''" |
| 780 | |
| 781 | When the events of ''Marvel vs. DC'' caused both universes to temporarily combine, Carnage was merged with longtime ComicBook/{{Superman}} foe Bizarro. This union created Bizarnage, a crazed monster that was the result of Project Cadmus's attempt to synthetically replicate alien [=DNA=]. |
| 782 | ---- |
| 783 | -> See Characters/AmalgamUniverse |
| 784 | [[/folder]] |
| 785 | |
| 786 | [[folder:Spider]] |
| 787 | !!Spider |
| 788 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/carnageexiles_3119.jpg]] |
| 789 | |
| 790 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' Peter Benjamin Parker |
| 791 | !!! '''Universe:''' Earth-15 |
| 792 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Exiles'' #12 |
| 793 | |
| 794 | --> ''"Yeah, you do that, buddy. God knows I can't wait to get back to my dimension and sit in prison for sixty-seven consecutive life sentences. Stupid jury."'' |
| 795 | |
| 796 | At some point, a teenage version of Spider-Man originating from Earth-15 merged with his world's Carnage symbiote, the two becoming a monster dubbed "the Spider". Incarcerated for the heinous crimes he went on to commit, the Spider was given a chance for freedom when he was drafted into Weapon X, a [[DarkerAndEdgier more]] [[AntiHeroTeam extreme]] counterpart of the reality-hopping ComicBook/{{Exiles}}. |
| 797 | ---- |
| 798 | * AlternateSelf: He is an alternate universe counterpart of Spider-Man from Earth-15, bonded to that universe's version of the Carnage symbiote. |
| 799 | * AntiHeroSubstitute: He and Weapon X were this for the Exiles, being given "unsavory" missions that could involve assassinations at best, and outright genocide at worst. |
| 800 | * AxCrazy: This version of Spider-Man was a convicted serial killer sentenced to ''sixty-seven'' consecutive life sentences. |
| 801 | * BladeBelowTheShoulder: His preferred method of attack was to morph his arms into long spikes, which he used to give Vanisher a TorsoWithAView. |
| 802 | * BoxedCrook: He was drafted into Weapon X after being arrested. |
| 803 | * CoDragons: He and an evil ComicBook/CarolDanvers were this for [[ComicBook/SquadronSupreme King Hyperion]]. |
| 804 | * EnemyDetectingRadar: His Spider-Sense allowed him to locate others, including the Exiles. |
| 805 | * EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor: His idea of a joke was something Deadpool would have appreciated. Ironically, the Deadpool he was teammates with had NoSenseOfHumor. |
| 806 | * {{Expy}}: His dark sense of humor makes him a CompositeCharacter of both Carnage and Deadpool. |
| 807 | * JerkAss: Gambit orders She-Hulk to knock Hulk!Wonder Man into a portal, convincing her to do so by reassuring her that Spider will be able to reel her back in to safety. Spider doesn't lift a finger to help her, and can barely be bothered to come up with an excuse for why he didn't. |
| 808 | * KillItWithFire: The Firestar from Earth-3062 flambéed him [[TakingYouWithMe and herself]]. |
| 809 | * NoMouth: Unlike the other versions of Carnage, he didn't manifest a mouth. |
| 810 | * OhCrap: Spider tries to get an alternate ComicBook/WonderMan to back off by threatening [=WM=]'s MoralityPet, the Scarlet Witch. This leads to him discovering that this Wonder Man is also the [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk Hulk]]. |
| 811 | --> '''Wanda:''' He does everything in his power to maintain control, you imbecile! You're threatening me--you're setting him off!!\ |
| 812 | '''Spider:''' Crap. |
| 813 | * OlderThanTheyLook: He was 42 when he died, but still looked fourteen. The symbiote or his status as a member of Weapon X presumably retarded his aging. |
| 814 | * PsychoForHire: When King Hyperion usurped control of Weapon X, the Spider sided with him because Hyperion let him do whatever he wanted, namely kill and maim to his heart's content. |
| 815 | * RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver: He had an entirely red costume with a black chest insignia and webbing-like veins stretching from it to his shoulders. |
| 816 | * RiseOfZitboy: With the symbiote retracted, he's shown to be quite pockmarked. |
| 817 | * SamusIsAGirl: He's stunned when one version of [[ComicBook/AlphaFlight Sasquatch]] turns out to be a black woman named Heather Hudson. |
| 818 | * TheSociopath: He's a mass-murderer with a depraved sense of humor. |
| 819 | * TerribleTrio: Formed one with King Hyperion and Ms. Marvel, after they decided to stop listening to the Timebroker. |
| 820 | * YouAreNumberSix: His inmate number was 24739. |
| 821 | [[/folder]] |
| 822 | |
| 823 | [[folder:Carnage (Animated Series)]] |
| 824 | !!Carnage (Animated Series) |
| 825 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/b6d47c735941c8ebc50d9c2b9d4024da.jpg]] |
| 826 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' Cletus Kasady |
| 827 | !!! '''Universe:''' Earth-92131 |
| 828 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Spider-Man: The Animated Series ''Season 3, Episode 10 |
| 829 | !!! '''Voiced By:''' Scott Cleverdon |
| 830 | |
| 831 | --> ''"Kasady is gone! There is only... CARNAGE!"'' |
| 832 | |
| 833 | A deranged madman who had committed crimes so severe even the Post refused to report them, Cletus Kasady was captured by Spider-Man after attempting to suicide-bomb a squad of police inside his booby-trapped house. Imprisoned at Ravencroft Asylum for the Criminally Insane, Cletus wound up in the cell next to Eddie Brock, who was doing time for his actions as the super villain Venom and undergoing therapy with Dr. Ashley Kafka. When [[Characters/DoctorStrangeEnemies Baron Mordo]], servant of the demon lord Dormammu, offered to return the symbiote to Eddie, Cletus eavesdropped and eagerly offered his services in return for power. When the symbiote later returned for Eddie and Venom escaped, Cletus watched in jealous frustration, but later on Baron Mordo revealed that the symbiote had reproduced, offering its spawn to Cletus in exchange for his fealty to Dormammu. Kasady gleefully accepted, bonding to the creature, and was dubbed Carnage by Mordo. |
| 834 | |
| 835 | As Carnage, he helped Venom steal Tony Stark's inter-dimensional portal device, and following Venom's defection was given the ability to drain life force via physical contact, using it to fill an urn that would set Dormammu free. After rampaging through the city, Carnage drained enough life force to nearly fill the urn, When Mordo told him only one more person's life was needed to free Dormammu, Carnage was disappointed but chose Detective Lee, his arresting officer, as his final victim. Spider-Man intervened, but Carnage defeated him, draining Detective Lee's life force and Dr. Kafka's as well when she arrived, taking her to Dormammu's lair. There, Mordo used the urn to open a portal to Dormammu's prison, but Spider-Man, Iron Man, and Venom intervened. Spider-Man reversed the portal's flow, but was unable to close it due to the power Dormammu had given Carnage. As he was pulled through the portal, Carnage grabbed Dr. Kafka, determined to take her with him, but Venom sacrificed himself to save her, trapping both himself and Carnage in the void between worlds. |
| 836 | |
| 837 | Some time later, the Carnage symbiote - or possibly an alternate version of it - made its way through a portal and into the hands of a nihilistic alternate version of Spider-Man driven insane by the existence of a clone named Ben Reilly, transforming him into Spider-Carnage. Spider-Carnage sought to destroy the Multiverse and nearly succeeded, but was stopped by a team of Spider-Men from other worlds. When confronted by an alternate version of Uncle Ben, Spider-Carnage realized what a monster he had become and sacrificed himself to destroy the portal machine and the symbiote for good. |
| 838 | ---- |
| 839 | -> See ''Characters/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries'' |
| 840 | [[/folder]] |
| 841 | |
| 842 | [[folder:Carnage (Unlimited)]] |
| 843 | !!Carnage (Unlimited) |
| 844 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/e6b36d26f878de270de22d0e77711140.jpg]] |
| 845 | |
| 846 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' Cletus Kasady |
| 847 | !!! '''Universe:''' Earth-751263[=/=]Earth-7831 |
| 848 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Spider-Man Unlimited'' Episode 1 ("Worlds Apart, Part One") |
| 849 | !!! '''Voiced By:''' Michael Donovan |
| 850 | |
| 851 | Cletus Kasady was imprisoned in a maximum security prison cell before being broken out by Eddie Brock, who gifted Cletus with a portion of his symbiote and turned him into the monstrous Carnage. An unknown amount of time later, Carnage attacked Colonel Jameson's shuttle to Counter-Earth alongside Venom, guided by an entity they called the Synoptic. On Counter-Earth, Carnage and Venom began working to further the Synoptic's goal of conquering Counter-Earth with symbiotes, at times working with the High Evolutionary, but most often against. |
| 852 | ---- |
| 853 | -> See ''Characters/SpiderManUnlimited'' |
| 854 | [[/folder]] |
| 855 | |
| 856 | [[folder:Ultimate Carnage]] |
| 857 | !!Ultimate Carnage |
| 858 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ultcarn_8567.jpg]] |
| 859 | |
| 860 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' "Little Ben"; Gwen Stacy (genetic duplicate) |
| 861 | !!! '''Universe:''' Earth-1610 |
| 862 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Ultimate Spider-Man'' #61; ''Ultimate Spider-Man'' #98 (as Gwen Stacy) |
| 863 | |
| 864 | --> '''Peter:''' Conners? What--have--you--done? |
| 865 | |
| 866 | A protoplasmic entity created by Curtis Connors and Ben Reilly by combining a sample of Spider-Man's blood with a sample of his own - which contained traces of the Lizard Formula, and a sample of the Venom Suit. The creature's genetic code was incomplete, so to sustain itself it began attacking everyone it came across and draining them of all their vital fluids. Possessing fragments of Peter Parker's memories, it returned to his house, where it encountered and killed Gwen Stacy. Carnage later returned and attacked Peter, who led it away from his home into the city. After watching it transform into a monstrous replica of Richard Parker, Peter realized that it needed his DNA to become complete and, rationalizing that [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman it wasn't alive to begin with]], immolated it in an industrial smoke stack. Dr. Connors was arrested for his role in creating it, and Ben Reilly was fired. |
| 867 | |
| 868 | Otto Octavius and Ben Reilly later created a second Carnage using a sample of the original and DNA samples of Gwen as a base. The second Carnage, possessing Gwen's memories, sought out Peter Parker after escaping from SHIELD during the Green Goblin's breakout. When Eddie Brock threatened Peter in an attempt to get the Venom Suit back from SHIELD, Gwen intervened and transformed into Carnage. This caused the traces of the Venom Suit inside Eddie's body to reform, and after a brief fight he assimilated Carnage, spitting out the fully human clone of Gwen. |
| 869 | ---- |
| 870 | -> See ''Characters/UltimateSpiderMan2000'' |
| 871 | [[/folder]] |
| 872 | |
| 873 | [[folder:Carnage Curl]] |
| 874 | !!Carnage Curl |
| 875 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/carnagecurl_6719.jpg]] |
| 876 | |
| 877 | !!! '''Universe:''' Earth-615.9[=/=]Earth-90211 |
| 878 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''What If? Venom Possessed Deadpool'' #3 |
| 879 | |
| 880 | --> '''Hairy Spranger:''' And this "lady" is-- |
| 881 | --> '''Carnage Curl:''' I am the Carnage Curl. I am living death. I am twisted hair and broken hearts. |
| 882 | --> '''Hairy Spranger:''' I bet you are, sweetie. |
| 883 | |
| 884 | InAWorld where the Venom symbiote bonded to ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}, the Merc with a Mouth attempted to modernize his look by cutting off his Beyonder-inspired Jheri curls, not knowing that they contained the gestating spawn of his symbiote. Once separated from its parent, the baby symbiote assumed a human form, and became an enemy of Venompool. |
| 885 | ---- |
| 886 | * AmbiguouslyHuman: There's no indication that Carnage Curl has a host, she might simply be a BlobMonster that can somehow make itself look like a person. |
| 887 | * ArchEnemy: Carnage Curl went out of her way to make Venompool miserable after he rejected her. |
| 888 | --> '''Venompool:''' Do you know what she put me through? Do you?! Carnage Curl killed my great secret uncle, Buffalo Hopskotch! She blew up the laboratory where I worked for years to create diarrhea retardant Olestra! She left [[ExcrementStatement an upper-decker]] at my country time birthday hoedown. Everyone thought I left a stinker! |
| 889 | * DenserAndWackier: This being a [[ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} Deadpool]]-centered ''WhatIf'' comic, she was born from a botched haircut, looked completely human, and was sleeping with two cosmic entities. |
| 890 | * MonsterIsAMommy: She was dating the Beyonder, but got knocked up by ''Galactus''. |
| 891 | --> '''Galactus:''' Behold--Galactus is the baby daddy! My revenge is finally complete, Beyonder!\ |
| 892 | '''Beyonder:''' No... [[ThisCannotBe it can't be]]... not him. Home-wrecking monster! [[TalkShowWithFists Let us solve our differences with fists!]] |
| 893 | * MostCommonSuperpower: She was incredibly buxom and not afraid of flaunting herself. |
| 894 | * OneWingedAngel: She's able to assume a form that resembles the mainstream Carnage, but with the addition of FemmeFatalons and PrehensileHair. |
| 895 | * OppositeSexClone: She was formed from Venompool's amputated Jheri curls. |
| 896 | * RetGone: Venompool erased her from existence with the Retcon Expungifier. |
| 897 | * SassyBlackWoman: As her shirt advertises, she took the appearance of a dark-skinned human woman. |
| 898 | [[/folder]] |
| 899 | |
| 900 | [[folder:Carnage (Ultimate Animated Series)]] |
| 901 | !!Carnage (Ultimate Animated Series) |
| 902 | [[quoteright:319:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/carnage_ultimate_spider_man_2.png]] |
| 903 | |
| 904 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' Peter Parker (original); Otto Octavius, Iron Fist, Hulk, Agent Venom, Shriek, Mary Jane Watson (second) |
| 905 | !!! '''Universe:''' Earth-12041 |
| 906 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Ultimate Spider-Man'' Season 2 Episode 8 (original); ''Ultimate Spider-Man'' Season 4 Episode 13 (second) |
| 907 | |
| 908 | The original Carnage symbiote was created by the Green Goblin from a modified sample of the Venom symbiote, and bonded to Peter Parker. Transformed into a berserk red-and-black monster dubbed Carnage by the Goblin, Peter was sent to kill Spider-Man and his team, and easily trounced them and a squad of S.H.I.E.L.D. agents until Harry Osborn - the former host of the Venom symbiote, intervened and took the symbiote from Peter, becoming Venom once again. |
| 909 | |
| 910 | Several months later, Doctor Octopus and Hydra scientist Michael Morbius acquired a sample of the Venom symbiote from Agent Venom and modified it to create a second Carnage symbiote. Originally bonding to Otto Octavius, the symbiote quickly developed the ability to speak and manifest a humanoid form without a host. Carnage battled Spider-Man and Agent Venom until it was blown up, scattering pieces of the symbiote across the city that proceeded to take over most of the populace. Seemingly destroyed by Anti-Venom, the Carnage symbiote instead reformed and infested Midtown High, where it took over Mary Jane Watson and turned her into the Carnage Queen. Hydra intended to control her and use her to spread the symbiote around the world, but Mary Jane was able to overcome and tame the symbiote to become Spider-Woman. |
| 911 | ---- |
| 912 | -> See ''Characters/UltimateSpiderMan2012'' |
| 913 | [[/folder]] |
| 914 | |
| 915 | [[folder:Carnage Beyond]] |
| 916 | !! Carnage (Beyond) |
| 917 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/carnage_ized_codex.jpg]] |
| 918 | !!! '''Alter Ego:''' Dylan Brock |
| 919 | !!! '''Universe:''' Unknown[[note]]While Dylan is implied to be the one from Earth-1051, Ryan Stegman clarified that the story wasn't meant to be canon.[[/note]] |
| 920 | !!! '''First Appearance:''' ''Carnage: Black, White & Blood'' #4 |
| 921 | |
| 922 | An alternate version of Codex, the Dylan Brock of Earth-1051, who was taken over by the Carnage symbiote. |
| 923 | ---- |
| 924 | * AlternateSelf: As an undead demigod bonded to the Carnage symbiote and augmented by Knull, Dylan is his universe's counterpart to Dark Carnage from ''ComicBook/AbsoluteCarnage'', and even has a dragon emblem on his chest. While the issue itself implies he's the Dylan Brock from Earth-1051, Ryan Stegman clarified on Twitter that -- as far as he was aware, at least -- that wasn't the case. |
| 925 | * DeadPersonImpersonation: Impersonates Agent Venom (Anne Weying), who he killed, in order to get Venom (Dylan) to let his guard down. |
| 926 | * DiscardAndDraw: Dylan's connection to Knull was severed by his mainstream counterpart, but Carnage bonding to him restored it and gave him Carnage's powers on top of those he'd possessed as Codex. |
| 927 | * MonsterFromBeyondTheVeil: Dylan was left in a coma that lasted for years, and the Carnage symbiote bonding to him turned him into an undead demigod lacking even the trace remnants of humanity he'd possessed as Codex. |
| 928 | * OtherMeAnnoysMe: Carnage specifically targets Venom and Dylan as revenge for what they'd done to him as Codex, attempting to infect them with an offshoot of his symbiote after trouncing them in combat. |
| 929 | * SelfMadeOrphan: Controlled by Carnage, he tortured his mother to death following his conquest of the world. |
| 930 | * SkullForAHead: Due to all that was left of Dylan being an emaciated corpse, Carnage has a fanged skull for a face. |
| 931 | [[/folder]] |
| 932 | |
| 933 | [[folder:Carnage (SSU)]] |
| 934 | !!Carnage (SSU) |
| 935 | [[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/cletuskasady.jpg]] |
| 936 | [[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/carnage_symbiote_movie.png]] |
| 937 | [[caption-width-right:300:[[labelnote:Click here to see the Carnage symbiote in humanoid form]]https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/carnage_9.jpg[softreturn][[/labelnote]]]] |
| 938 | [[caption-width-right:300:[[AC:''"There you are. Death to you, Father."'']]]] |
| 939 | !!!'''Species:''' Klyntar |
| 940 | !!!'''Citizenship:''' None |
| 941 | !!!'''Voiced By:''' Creator/WoodyHarrelson |
| 942 | !!!'''Appearances:''' ''Film/VenomLetThereBeCarnage'' |
| 943 | |
| 944 | An offshoot of the Venom symbiote bonded to Cletus Kasady. |
| 945 | ---- |
| 946 | -> See ''Characters/SSUVenomsEnemies'' |
| 947 | [[/folder]] |
| 948 | |
| 949 | ---- |
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