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** In the novel, Nelly says "But where did he come from, the little dark thing, harboured by a good man to his bane?" Creator/TomHardy, who played Heathcliff in the 2009 version, would later play ComicBook/{{Bane}} in ‘’Film/TheDarkKnightRises’’.

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** In the novel, Nelly says "But where did he come from, the little dark thing, harboured by a good man to his bane?" Creator/TomHardy, who played Heathcliff in the 2009 version, would later play ComicBook/{{Bane}} in ‘’Film/TheDarkKnightRises’’.''Film/TheDarkKnightRises''.
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** A few readers have [[http://livingston.schoolwires.com/139620929192030233/lib/139620929192030233/_files/Ellen_Dean_as_villain.pdf laid the blame for this tragedy]] at Nelly's feet, claiming that she is actually a very prejudiced person who only really cares about securing for herself a peaceful, comfortable existence and is consequently unable to relate to the [[TrueArtIsAngsty intense passions]] of Heathcliff or Cathy. May be [[JustifiedTrope justified]] if one considers her complicity in [[NiceJobBreakingItHero failing to reveal to Cathy that Heathcliff was present]] when she was discussing who to marry, [[WhatTheHellHero not telling Edgar Linton]] that his own wife was ill and dying, and [[WhatAnIdiot keeping Cathy II and Linton's relationship hidden]] until it was too late.

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** A few readers have [[http://livingston.schoolwires.com/139620929192030233/lib/139620929192030233/_files/Ellen_Dean_as_villain.pdf laid the blame for this tragedy]] at Nelly's feet, claiming that she is actually a very prejudiced person who only really cares about securing for herself a peaceful, comfortable existence and is consequently unable to relate to the [[TrueArtIsAngsty intense passions]] of Heathcliff or Cathy. May be [[JustifiedTrope justified]] justified if one considers her complicity in [[NiceJobBreakingItHero failing to reveal to Cathy that Heathcliff was present]] when she was discussing who to marry, [[WhatTheHellHero not telling Edgar Linton]] that his own wife was ill and dying, and [[WhatAnIdiot keeping Cathy II and Linton's relationship hidden]] until it was too late.
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"Sociopath" doesn't just mean "bad person", and Cathy and Heathcliff are too emotional to qualify.


* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The two lead characters are sociopaths in a destructive relationship, and the sympathetic supporting characters get abused by them, die sadly or become cold and heartless because of their treatment. While the ending is happier than you'd expect, sometimes the story can feel so grim and pessimistic that it's hard to care what happens. A Tumblr user by the name of prideprejudice summed it up best with "wuthering heights is basically a book about awful people who all made a secret promise to ruin as many lives as possible before they fucked off and died. and by the end heathcliff won with a 50 point lead".

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The two lead characters are sociopaths selfish people in a destructive relationship, and the sympathetic supporting characters get abused by them, die sadly or become cold and heartless because of their treatment. While the ending is happier than you'd expect, sometimes the story can feel so grim and pessimistic that it's hard to care what happens. A Tumblr user by the name of prideprejudice summed it up best with "wuthering heights is basically a book about awful people who all made a secret promise to ruin as many lives as possible before they fucked off and died. and by the end heathcliff won with a 50 point lead".



** Catherine the elder is likewise often imagined as an ideal romantic heroine, a survivor of abuse and the more sympathetic of the pair. In reality she's a sociopathic, tempestuous brat who at one point wants to marry Edgar solely for his money to secure her own comfort - while still keeping Heathcliff around for pleasure. Additionally while she's married, she still acts like a possessive GreenEyedMonster towards Heathcliff (her warning Isabella off him is motivated by jealousy as much as anything else). Several adaptations (particularly the 2009 miniseries) file off some of her worse traits to make her slightly more sympathetic.

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** Catherine the elder is likewise often imagined as an ideal romantic heroine, a survivor of abuse and the more sympathetic of the pair. In reality she's a sociopathic, tempestuous brat who at one point wants to marry Edgar solely for his money to secure her own comfort - while still keeping Heathcliff around for pleasure. Additionally while she's married, she still acts like a possessive GreenEyedMonster towards Heathcliff (her warning Isabella off him is motivated by jealousy as much as anything else). Several adaptations (particularly the 2009 miniseries) file off some of her worse traits to make her slightly more sympathetic.



** Heathcliff is the most famous example. He's a sociopath who ruins a bunch of lives out of a desire for petty revenge - and an abuser who is implied to have raped his wife. But his upbringing was far from ideal - where he was bullied by Hindley and constantly reminded of his place. Catherine was the one bright spot in his life, and even his relationship with her was unbelievably toxic. He's as much a victim of her as anyone else. Then after her death, he becomes more monstrous and ruins more lives than ever, but all the while is tortured by grief for his LostLenore.

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** Heathcliff is the most famous example. He's a sociopath vicious, hot-headed man who ruins a bunch of lives out of a desire for petty revenge - and an abuser who is implied to have raped his wife. But his upbringing was far from ideal - where he was bullied by Hindley and constantly reminded of his place. Catherine was the one bright spot in his life, and even his relationship with her was unbelievably toxic. He's as much a victim of her as anyone else. Then after her death, he becomes more monstrous and ruins more lives than ever, but all the while is tortured by grief for his LostLenore.



* MisaimedFandom: The famous quote "I am Heathcliff!" is actually very misleading if you just read the back cover. What this situation needs more proper context on is the differences between Cathy and Isabella. Cathy by many means is just as sociopathic as Heathcliff is, the love between them is pure to them but alien to many others who can't wrap their heads around it. Isabella on the other hand practically finds Heathcliff TroubledButCute to her own detriment as Cathy readily points out. One meets Heathcliff on his level while the other is full of naivety without fully thinking. There are very major differences if someone is applying to this trope to Heathcliff thinking like Isabella vs thinking like Cathy. Just to add further context, Nelly lets Cathy have it after her "I am Heathcliff" line with "If I can make any sense of your nonsense, Miss, it only goes to show me that you are ignorant of the duties you undertake in marrying; or else that you are a wicked, unprincipled girl." Nelly is not only confounding Cathy on her plan but the whole principle in general. As while some people are the Cathy or the Isabella, some others might be the Nelly and find this whole conversation ridiculous.

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* MisaimedFandom: The famous quote "I am Heathcliff!" is actually very misleading if you just read the back cover. What this situation needs more proper context on is the differences between Cathy and Isabella. Cathy by many means is just as sociopathic toxic as Heathcliff is, the love between them is pure to them but alien to many others who can't wrap their heads around it. Isabella on the other hand practically finds Heathcliff TroubledButCute to her own detriment as Cathy readily points out. One meets Heathcliff on his level while the other is full of naivety without fully thinking. There are very major differences if someone is applying to this trope to Heathcliff thinking like Isabella vs thinking like Cathy. Just to add further context, Nelly lets Cathy have it after her "I am Heathcliff" line with "If I can make any sense of your nonsense, Miss, it only goes to show me that you are ignorant of the duties you undertake in marrying; or else that you are a wicked, unprincipled girl." Nelly is not only confounding Cathy on her plan but the whole principle in general. As while some people are the Cathy or the Isabella, some others might be the Nelly and find this whole conversation ridiculous.

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** The 1939 film includes an ending shot with Heathcliff and Cathy's ghosts wandering the moors TogetherInDeath. No such sequence exists in the book, but many other adaptations include something similar in some way.

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** The 1939 film includes an ending shot with Heathcliff and Cathy's ghosts wandering the moors TogetherInDeath. No such sequence exists in the book, but many Many other adaptations include something similar in some way.way, though the book itself only mentions some supposed sightings of the ghostly couple and ends with Lockwood visiting their graves and concluding these stories aren't true.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The two lead characters are sociopaths in a destructive relationship, and the sympathetic supporting characters get abused by them, die sadly or become cold and heartless because of their treatment. While the ending is happier than you'd expect, sometimes the story can feel so grim and pessimistic that it's hard to care what happens.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The two lead characters are sociopaths in a destructive relationship, and the sympathetic supporting characters get abused by them, die sadly or become cold and heartless because of their treatment. While the ending is happier than you'd expect, sometimes the story can feel so grim and pessimistic that it's hard to care what happens. A Tumblr user by the name of prideprejudice summed it up best with "wuthering heights is basically a book about awful people who all made a secret promise to ruin as many lives as possible before they fucked off and died. and by the end heathcliff won with a 50 point lead".
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* TheWoobie: The universe seems to conspire to make Isabella Linton's life a nightmare. She develops a PrecociousCrush on Heathcliff that a jealous Cathy reveals to others - which humiliates her and makes her withdraw from everyone. This leaves her prime fodder for Heathcliff to seduce her as part of his revenge - and as soon as they're married, she's tortured over the years until she can take no more and flees for her life.

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* TheWoobie: The universe seems to conspire to make Isabella Linton's life a nightmare. She develops a PrecociousCrush on Heathcliff that a jealous Cathy reveals to others - which humiliates her and makes her withdraw from everyone. This leaves her prime fodder for Heathcliff to seduce her as part of his revenge - and as soon as they're married, she's tortured over the years for two months until she can take no more and flees for her life.
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** What motivates Cathy I's speech warning Isabella of Heathcliff's cruelty when Isabella first falls in love with him? Pure selfish jealousy, genuine desire to protect her sister-in-law, or both?

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** What When Isabella falls in love with Heathcliff, what motivates Cathy I's speech warning Isabella her of Heathcliff's cruelty when Isabella first falls in love with him? and her subsequent humiliating reveal of her feelings to Heathcliff? Pure selfish jealousy, jealousy (as Isabella believes), genuine desire to protect her sister-in-law, sister-in-law (as she herself claims), or both?
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** What motivates Cathy I's speech warning Isabella of Heathcliff's cruelty when Isabella first falls in love with him? Pure selfish jealousy, genuine desire to protect her sister-in-law, or both?

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** The 1939 film includes an ending shot with Heathcliff and Cathy's ghosts wandering the moors TogetherInDeath. No such sequence exists in the book, but many other adaptations include something similar in some way. Likewise many others follow the 1939 film's trend of adapting out Cathy II, Linton and Hareton - focusing on the first generation.

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** Many adaptations follow the 1939 film's trend of adapting out Cathy II, Linton and Hareton - focusing only on the first generation and skipping straight from Cathy I's death to Heathcliff's (or, alternatively, [[SparedByTheAdaptation keeping Heathcliff alive in the end]]).
** The 1939 film includes an ending shot with Heathcliff and Cathy's ghosts wandering the moors TogetherInDeath. No such sequence exists in the book, but many other adaptations include something similar in some way. Likewise many others follow the 1939 film's trend of adapting out Cathy II, Linton and Hareton - focusing on the first generation.
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** Heathcliff is the most famous example. He's a sociopath who ruins a bunch of lives out of a desire for petty revenge - and an abuser who is implied to have raped his wife. But his upbringing was far from ideal - where he was bullied by Hindley and constantly reminded of his place. Catherine was the one bright spot in his life, and even his relationship with her was unbelievably toxic. He's as much a victim of her as anyone else.

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** Heathcliff is the most famous example. He's a sociopath who ruins a bunch of lives out of a desire for petty revenge - and an abuser who is implied to have raped his wife. But his upbringing was far from ideal - where he was bullied by Hindley and constantly reminded of his place. Catherine was the one bright spot in his life, and even his relationship with her was unbelievably toxic. He's as much a victim of her as anyone else. Then after her death, he becomes more monstrous and ruins more lives than ever, but all the while is tortured by grief for his LostLenore.
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** Catherine I is an arrogant, vicious-tempered gold digger whose relationship with Heathcliff is toxic, but she's also an orphan trapped in an oppressive household with a drunken brother, as well as in a society that can't accept her natural wildness. By choosing to marry Edgar, she thinks she's doing what's best for Heathcliff as well as herself, hoping to free him from Hindley's abuse by supporting him with the Lintons' money, but instead is abandoned by him, and the turmoil both of her love triangle and of her dual longings for freedom and security drive her to madness and death.
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** If we assume that Cathy I's ghost really does roam the moors, haunt Heathcliff and [[spoiler: eventually cause his death]], is she motivated by undying love for Heathcliff and longing for him to [[TogetherInDeath join her]], or is she a vindictive spirit striving to [[MamaBear save her daughter from Heathcliff's cruelty?]] Or both?

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** If we assume that Cathy I's ghost really does roam the moors, haunt Heathcliff and [[spoiler: eventually cause his death]], death, is she motivated by undying love for Heathcliff and longing for him to [[TogetherInDeath join her]], or is she a vindictive spirit striving to [[MamaBear save her daughter from Heathcliff's cruelty?]] Or both?



* HarsherInHindsight:
** Heathcliff is AmbiguouslyBrown and trying to fit into a society of middle class white people. The 1939 film adaptation casts Merle Oberon as Cathy -- she herself an actress of MixedAncestry [[note]]She was born in India but her exact racial background isn't known, as she claimed to be born in Tasmania.[[/note]] who tried to pass for white.
** Speaking of race, some 21st-century UsefulNotes/AmericanChurches have begun a movement to adopt "orphans" ([[https://newrepublic.com/article/127311/trouble-christian-adoption-movement not all of whom were actually orphans]]) from developing countries and give them an Evangelical UsefulNotes/{{Christian|ity}} upbringing. Like Heathcliff, [[https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/04/christian-evangelical-adoption-liberia/ some of these kids]] were ostracised due to their race, subjected to harsh discipline, and treated as servants by the rest of the family.

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* HarsherInHindsight:
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HarsherInHindsight: Heathcliff is AmbiguouslyBrown and trying to fit into a society of middle class white people. The 1939 film adaptation casts Merle Oberon as Cathy -- she herself an actress of MixedAncestry [[note]]She was born in India but her exact racial background isn't known, as she claimed to be born in Tasmania.[[/note]] who tried to pass for white.
** Speaking of race, some 21st-century UsefulNotes/AmericanChurches have begun a movement to adopt "orphans" ([[https://newrepublic.com/article/127311/trouble-christian-adoption-movement not all of whom were actually orphans]]) from developing countries and give them an Evangelical UsefulNotes/{{Christian|ity}} upbringing. Like Heathcliff, [[https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/04/christian-evangelical-adoption-liberia/ some of these kids]] were ostracised due to their race, subjected to harsh discipline, and treated as servants by the rest of the family.
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* {{Narm}}:
** The name "Heathcliff" may make some readers think of [[WesternAnimation/{{Heathcliff}} an animated TV show]].
** In the 1939 film right before she dies, Cathy's eyes widen in such a way that makes it look like an EyeTake.
* TheScrappy: Joseph mostly for his annoying FunetikAccent and his repetitive Bible thumping. While not meant to be liked, the former just makes any chapter where he has a lot of dialogue a chore to get through.
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: One of the most shocking parts of the novel at the time was when Cathy gave a speech about a dream where she was unhappy in {{Heaven}} and would much prefer to wander the moors as a ghost. The pious Nelly Dean is scandalised at such a statement.

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* {{Narm}}:
** The name "Heathcliff" may make some readers think of [[WesternAnimation/{{Heathcliff}} an animated TV show]].
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{{Narm}}: In the 1939 film right before she dies, Cathy's eyes widen in such a way that makes it look like an EyeTake.
* TheScrappy: Joseph mostly for his annoying FunetikAccent and his repetitive Bible thumping. While not meant to be liked, the former just makes any chapter where he has a lot of dialogue a chore to get through.
%% * SeinfeldIsUnfunny: One of the most shocking parts of the novel at the time was when Cathy gave a speech about a dream where she was unhappy in {{Heaven}} and would much prefer to wander the moors as a ghost. The pious Nelly Dean is scandalised at such a statement.

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** Vivien Leigh really wanted to play Cathy in the 1939 film, and turned down the part of Isabella. Seeing her playing an abused wife in an unhappy marriage alongside her real-life husband would have been especially uncomfortable - seeing as how their marriage fell apart in the 1950s.

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped:
** Emily Bronte hammered in the anvil about gender inequality in Victorian/Georgian society - with Catherine being torn between a happy life with the man she loves (yet is lower class) and a life of comfort she's expected to sacrifice her own happiness for. Likewise it's all too easy for Isabella to be DefiledForever thanks to Heathcliff using her for his revenge, and Catherine II is later screwed out of her inheritance thanks to the sexist laws of the time.
** It's also notable for Cathy being forced to conform to society's expectations of what a Victorian/Georgian ProperLady should be. The first wedge between her and Heathcliff properly comes when she's spent weeks at the Linton house, being taught how she's 'supposed' to act. This forced conformity is what drives her and Heathcliff apart.
** She also deconstructs the fascination with AllGirlsWantBadBoys (see below) before it was even a thing!
** Religious hypocrisy is also challenged in the character of Joseph, who treats Heathcliff cruelly primarily because of his strong religious beliefs, which has a hand in Heathcliff turning out the way he does.
* UnbuiltTrope: AllGirlsWantBadBoys is present in both Cathy and Isabella's characters, and both seems like a deconstruction of the trope. Isabella is attracted to Heathcliff because he's hidden his worse qualities and she's too naive to realise he's using her in his quest for revenge. Cathy meanwhile is used to show that the only person who could be attracted to such a cruel and destructive person is likely quite cruel and destructive herself.

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped:
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SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Emily Bronte hammered in the anvil about gender and class inequality in Victorian/Georgian Georgian/Victorian society - with Catherine being torn between a happy life with the man she loves (yet is lower class) and a life of comfort she's expected to sacrifice her own happiness for. Likewise it's all too easy for Isabella to be DefiledForever thanks to Heathcliff using her for his revenge, and Catherine II is later screwed out of her inheritance thanks to the sexist laws of the time.
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It's also notable for Cathy being forced to conform to society's expectations of what a Victorian/Georgian Georgian/Victorian ProperLady should be. The first wedge between her and Heathcliff properly comes when she's spent weeks at the Linton house, being taught how she's 'supposed' to act. This forced conformity is what drives her and Heathcliff apart.
** She also deconstructs the fascination with AllGirlsWantBadBoys (see below) before it was even a thing!
** Religious hypocrisy is also challenged in the character of Joseph, who treats Heathcliff cruelly primarily because of his strong religious beliefs, which has a hand in Heathcliff turning out the way he does.
* UnbuiltTrope: AllGirlsWantBadBoys is present in both Cathy and Isabella's characters, and both seems like a deconstruction of the trope.
apart. Likewise it's all too easy for Isabella is attracted to be DefiledForever thanks to Heathcliff because he's hidden his worse qualities and she's too naive to realise he's using her in for his quest for revenge. Cathy meanwhile revenge, and Catherine II is used later screwed out of her inheritance thanks to show that the only person who could be attracted to such a cruel and destructive person is likely quite cruel and destructive herself.sexist laws of the time.



** The main obstacle in Cathy and Heathcliff being together is their class difference. Cathy would be expected to marry within her class, which is why she doesn't just elope with Heathcliff. This just makes her even less sympathetic to modern readers. Of course a big part of this is intentional to show how horrible class divides are in keeping lovers apart. The book does end after all with Catherine II falling in love with the poor orphan Hareton.
* ValuesResonance: A foolish and sheltered young woman shallowly falls in love with a bad man, marries him, and suffers horribly? Ask any domestic abuse counselor in the world if this part is outdated. They'll laugh at you.[[note]]To be fair, Heathcliff reminds Isabella that he's within his legal rights. Needless to say, today he wouldn't be.[[/note]]

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** The main obstacle in Cathy and Heathcliff being together is their class difference. Cathy would be expected to marry within her class, which is why she doesn't just elope with Heathcliff. This just makes her even less sympathetic to modern readers. Of course a big part of this is intentional to show how horrible class divides are in keeping lovers apart. The book does end after all with Catherine II falling in love with the poor orphan Hareton.
Hareton (who however is relatively equal to her class because his father was a land-owner).
* ValuesResonance: A foolish and sheltered young woman shallowly falls in love with a bad man, marries him, and suffers horribly? Ask any domestic abuse counselor in the world if this part is outdated. They'll laugh at you.[[note]]To be fair, Heathcliff [[note]]Heathcliff reminds Isabella that he's within his legal rights. Needless to say, today Today he wouldn't be.[[/note]]
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While the book was written in the Victorian period, the story itself ended in 1801 and goes back 30 to 40 years, placing Heathcliff and Cathy 1's childhood around or just before the American Revolution. The actual setting is Georgian. That said, Emily Bronte was addressing her own society; either way, expectations of class and women were essentially the same in both periods.


** Emily Bronte hammered in the anvil about gender inequality in Victorian society - with Catherine being torn between a happy life with the man she loves (yet is lower class) and a life of comfort she's expected to sacrifice her own happiness for. Likewise it's all too easy for Isabella to be DefiledForever thanks to Heathcliff using her for his revenge, and Catherine II is later screwed out of her inheritance thanks to the sexist laws of the time.
** It's also notable for Cathy being forced to conform to society's expectations of what a Victorian ProperLady should be. The first wedge between her and Heathcliff properly comes when she's spent weeks at the Linton house, being taught how she's 'supposed' to act. This forced conformity is what drives her and Heathcliff apart.

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** Emily Bronte hammered in the anvil about gender inequality in Victorian Victorian/Georgian society - with Catherine being torn between a happy life with the man she loves (yet is lower class) and a life of comfort she's expected to sacrifice her own happiness for. Likewise it's all too easy for Isabella to be DefiledForever thanks to Heathcliff using her for his revenge, and Catherine II is later screwed out of her inheritance thanks to the sexist laws of the time.
** It's also notable for Cathy being forced to conform to society's expectations of what a Victorian Victorian/Georgian ProperLady should be. The first wedge between her and Heathcliff properly comes when she's spent weeks at the Linton house, being taught how she's 'supposed' to act. This forced conformity is what drives her and Heathcliff apart.
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* ValuesResonance: A foolish and sheltered young woman shallowly falls in love with a bad man, marries him, and suffers horribly? Ask any domestic abuse counselor in the world if this part is outdated. They'll laugh at you.[[note]]To be fair, Heathcliff reminds Isabella that he's within his legal rights. Needless to say, today he wouldn't be.[[/note]]
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** Heathcliff is AmbiguouslyBrown trying to fit into a society of middle class white people. The 1939 film adaptation casts Merle Oberon as Cathy - she herself a mixed race[[note]]She was born in India but her exact racial background isn't known, as she claimed to be born in Tasmania.[[/note]] actress who tried to pass for white.

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** Heathcliff is AmbiguouslyBrown and trying to fit into a society of middle class white people. The 1939 film adaptation casts Merle Oberon as Cathy - -- she herself a mixed race[[note]]She an actress of MixedAncestry [[note]]She was born in India but her exact racial background isn't known, as she claimed to be born in Tasmania.[[/note]] actress who tried to pass for white.white.
** Speaking of race, some 21st-century UsefulNotes/AmericanChurches have begun a movement to adopt "orphans" ([[https://newrepublic.com/article/127311/trouble-christian-adoption-movement not all of whom were actually orphans]]) from developing countries and give them an Evangelical UsefulNotes/{{Christian|ity}} upbringing. Like Heathcliff, [[https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/04/christian-evangelical-adoption-liberia/ some of these kids]] were ostracised due to their race, subjected to harsh discipline, and treated as servants by the rest of the family.

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* AdaptationDisplacement:
** The 1939 film includes an ending shot with Heathcliff and Cathy's ghosts wandering the moors TogetherInDeath. No such sequence exists in the book, but many other adaptations include something similar in some way. Likewise many others follow the 1939 film's trend of adapting out Cathy II, Linton and Hareton - focusing on the first generation.
** ''Series/SabrinaTheTeenageWitch'' has a gag where Sabrina zaps herself into the book and is then seen running around the moors calling out "Heathcliff!" over and over - which she doesn't do in the book, and is a scene in the film. She likewise wears a gown inspired by the 1939 film - which changes the time period the book is set in (and therefore the fashions).
** Adaptations also follow the 1939 film's lead in having Heathcliff and Cathy spy on the Lintons when they're fully grown adults. In the book, they're still children when this happens, and Cathy is kept at the house partly to be given lessons on how to be a ProperLady.



** Other scholars have suggested that Nelly was secretly in love with Hindley - as she takes his death especially hard, was quite aloof towards his wife Frances and seems to care for Hareton as a ReplacementGoldfish. The 1970 film went ahead and made this part of the story.



* DracoInLeatherPants: Many female readers insist that Heathcliff is a dashing hero, despite his many, ''many'' shortcomings (even to the point where they thought his [[spoiler:[[{{Squick}} digging up Catherine's body]] ]] was romantic). The story itself makes fun of this sentiment among her readers by making 18-year-old Isabella Linton idolize him. Catherine admonishes Isabella that "He's not a rough diamond--a pearl-containing oyster of a rustic: he's a fierce, pitiless, wolfish man" and Heathcliff comments on Isabella's naivety and romanticism regarding him, mocking it later in the book.
** The famous quote "I am Heathcliff!" is actually very misleading if you just read the back cover. What this situation needs more proper context on is the differences between Cathy and Isabella. Cathy by many means is just as sociopathic as Heathcliff is, the love between them is pure to them but alien to many others who can't wrap their heads around it. Isabella on the other hand practically finds Heathcliff TroubledButCute to her own detriment as Cathy readily points out. One meets Heathcliff on his level while the other is full of naivety without fully thinking. There are very major differences if someone is applying to this trope to Heathcliff thinking like Isabella vs thinking like Cathy. Just to add further context, Nelly lets Cathy have it after her "I am Heathcliff" line with "If I can make any sense of your nonsense, Miss, it only goes to show me that you are ignorant of the duties you undertake in marrying; or else that you are a wicked, unprincipled girl." Nelly is not only confounding Cathy on her plan but the whole principle in general. As while some people are the Cathy or the Isabella, some others might be the Nelly and find this whole conversation ridiculous.
* HilariousInHindsight: In complete fairness, given Isabella Linton-Heathcliff's fate, it is difficult to imagine why anyone would constantly compare [[Literature/{{Twilight}} a book]] to ''Wuthering Heights'' and name the heroine of said book ''[[NamesTheSame Isabella]]''. It is very amusing that ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' tries so hard to compare itself to this story, when it is in fact denouncing the kind of relationship Stephenie Meyer tries to glorify.

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** Is Isabella looked on too cynically by the narrative? Yes she's young and naive, but she doesn't seem to be attracted to Heathcliff's bad boy tendencies as much as opting not to be prejudiced like her brother and sister-in-law and give Heathcliff a chance. He does go out of his way to seduce her, putting on a good show of being a gentleman - and he pursues her after Cathy tells him of her crush. He did his best to hide his bad qualities from her, and she was already feeling isolated after Cathy humiliated her by telling everyone her private feelings. In the 1939 film, she's not wrong when she calls Cathy out for her possessive jealousy. In fact, you could argue that Isabella is stronger than Cathy; once Heathcliff reveals all his bad traits, she falls out of love with him, does her best to resist him and eventually escapes from Wuthering Heights. Cathy by contrast knows what a sociopath he is, and continues to love him.
* DracoInLeatherPants: DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The two lead characters are sociopaths in a destructive relationship, and the sympathetic supporting characters get abused by them, die sadly or become cold and heartless because of their treatment. While the ending is happier than you'd expect, sometimes the story can feel so grim and pessimistic that it's hard to care what happens.
* DracoInLeatherPants:
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Many female readers insist that Heathcliff is a dashing hero, despite his many, ''many'' shortcomings (even to the point where they thought his [[spoiler:[[{{Squick}} digging up Catherine's body]] ]] was romantic). The story itself makes fun of this sentiment among her readers by making 18-year-old Isabella Linton idolize him. Catherine admonishes Isabella that "He's not a rough diamond--a pearl-containing oyster of a rustic: he's a fierce, pitiless, wolfish man" and Heathcliff comments on Isabella's naivety and romanticism regarding him, mocking it later in the book.
** The famous quote "I am Heathcliff!" is actually very misleading if you just read Catherine the back cover. What this situation needs elder is likewise often imagined as an ideal romantic heroine, a survivor of abuse and the more proper context on is sympathetic of the differences between Cathy and Isabella. Cathy by many means is just as sociopathic as pair. In reality she's a sociopathic, tempestuous brat who at one point wants to marry Edgar solely for his money to secure her own comfort - while still keeping Heathcliff is, the love between them is pure to them but alien to many others who can't wrap their heads around it. Isabella on the other hand practically finds for pleasure. Additionally while she's married, she still acts like a possessive GreenEyedMonster towards Heathcliff TroubledButCute to (her warning Isabella off him is motivated by jealousy as much as anything else). Several adaptations (particularly the 2009 miniseries) file off some of her own detriment worse traits to make her slightly more sympathetic.
* {{Fanon}}: Nelly is often imagined
as Cathy readily points out. One meets an older woman, and portrayed as being middle-aged in Catherine and Heathcliff's youth. Actually in the text, she's only six years older than Catherine and the same age as Hindley.
* HarsherInHindsight:
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Heathcliff on his level while the other is full AmbiguouslyBrown trying to fit into a society of naivety without fully thinking. There are very major differences if someone is applying to this trope to Heathcliff thinking like Isabella vs thinking like Cathy. Just to add further context, Nelly lets middle class white people. The 1939 film adaptation casts Merle Oberon as Cathy have it after - she herself a mixed race[[note]]She was born in India but her "I am Heathcliff" line with "If I can make any sense of your nonsense, Miss, it only goes exact racial background isn't known, as she claimed to show me that you are ignorant of the duties you undertake be born in marrying; or else that you are a wicked, unprincipled girl." Nelly is not only confounding Tasmania.[[/note]] actress who tried to pass for white.
** Vivien Leigh really wanted to play
Cathy on in the 1939 film, and turned down the part of Isabella. Seeing her plan but playing an abused wife in an unhappy marriage alongside her real-life husband would have been especially uncomfortable - seeing as how their marriage fell apart in the whole principle in general. As while some people are the Cathy or the Isabella, some others might be the Nelly and find this whole conversation ridiculous.
1950s.
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In complete fairness, given Isabella Linton-Heathcliff's fate, it is difficult to imagine why anyone would constantly compare [[Literature/{{Twilight}} a book]] to ''Wuthering Heights'' and name the heroine of said book ''[[NamesTheSame Isabella]]''. It is very amusing that ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' tries so hard to compare itself to this story, when it is in fact denouncing the kind of relationship Stephenie Meyer tries to glorify.



* JerkassWoobie: Heathcliff is practically the TropeCodifier. Linton, Hareton and Catherine (II) could also qualify, although clearly the latter two are much more [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Jerks with Hearts of Gold]].
* MisaimedFandom: Despite Brontë pulling absolutely no punches in her description of Heathcliff, despite Catherine herself stating that he has no hidden depths of love and tenderness, despite Heathcliff's own statement that he hopes Catherine wakes up in torment in the next world for rejecting him... Teenage girls will insist on seeing him as a romantic hero!
* {{Narm}}: The name "Heathcliff" may make some readers think of [[WesternAnimation/{{Heathcliff}} an animated TV show]].

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** The two actors who played the toxic couple in the 2009 miniseries - Tom Hardy and Charlotte Riley - ended up HappilyMarried.
* JerkassWoobie: JerkassWoobie:
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Heathcliff is practically the TropeCodifier. Linton, Hareton most famous example. He's a sociopath who ruins a bunch of lives out of a desire for petty revenge - and an abuser who is implied to have raped his wife. But his upbringing was far from ideal - where he was bullied by Hindley and constantly reminded of his place. Catherine (II) could also qualify, although clearly was the latter two are one bright spot in his life, and even his relationship with her was unbelievably toxic. He's as much more [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Jerks with Hearts a victim of Gold]].
her as anyone else.
** Catherine II is introduced as cold and rude to everyone - but that's because she's been trapped in Wuthering Heights, had her inheritance stolen by her father in law and had to watch her beloved father die of an illness partly brought on by her actions.
** Hareton is a {{Foil}} to Heathcliff in that he's a JerkWithAHeartOfGold who's been treated like dirt by literally every character he meets.
** Linton too purely on account of being Heathcliff's son, and losing his mother at the age of thirteen.
* MisaimedFandom: Despite Brontë pulling absolutely no punches in The famous quote "I am Heathcliff!" is actually very misleading if you just read the back cover. What this situation needs more proper context on is the differences between Cathy and Isabella. Cathy by many means is just as sociopathic as Heathcliff is, the love between them is pure to them but alien to many others who can't wrap their heads around it. Isabella on the other hand practically finds Heathcliff TroubledButCute to her description own detriment as Cathy readily points out. One meets Heathcliff on his level while the other is full of Heathcliff, despite Catherine herself stating naivety without fully thinking. There are very major differences if someone is applying to this trope to Heathcliff thinking like Isabella vs thinking like Cathy. Just to add further context, Nelly lets Cathy have it after her "I am Heathcliff" line with "If I can make any sense of your nonsense, Miss, it only goes to show me that he has no hidden depths you are ignorant of love and tenderness, despite Heathcliff's own statement the duties you undertake in marrying; or else that he hopes Catherine wakes up in torment in you are a wicked, unprincipled girl." Nelly is not only confounding Cathy on her plan but the next world for rejecting him... Teenage girls will insist on seeing him as a romantic hero!
whole principle in general. As while some people are the Cathy or the Isabella, some others might be the Nelly and find this whole conversation ridiculous.
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The name "Heathcliff" may make some readers think of [[WesternAnimation/{{Heathcliff}} an animated TV show]].show]].
** In the 1939 film right before she dies, Cathy's eyes widen in such a way that makes it look like an EyeTake.
* TheScrappy: Joseph mostly for his annoying FunetikAccent and his repetitive Bible thumping. While not meant to be liked, the former just makes any chapter where he has a lot of dialogue a chore to get through.
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: One of the most shocking parts of the novel at the time was when Cathy gave a speech about a dream where she was unhappy in {{Heaven}} and would much prefer to wander the moors as a ghost. The pious Nelly Dean is scandalised at such a statement.
* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped:
** Emily Bronte hammered in the anvil about gender inequality in Victorian society - with Catherine being torn between a happy life with the man she loves (yet is lower class) and a life of comfort she's expected to sacrifice her own happiness for. Likewise it's all too easy for Isabella to be DefiledForever thanks to Heathcliff using her for his revenge, and Catherine II is later screwed out of her inheritance thanks to the sexist laws of the time.
** It's also notable for Cathy being forced to conform to society's expectations of what a Victorian ProperLady should be. The first wedge between her and Heathcliff properly comes when she's spent weeks at the Linton house, being taught how she's 'supposed' to act. This forced conformity is what drives her and Heathcliff apart.
** She also deconstructs the fascination with AllGirlsWantBadBoys (see below) before it was even a thing!
** Religious hypocrisy is also challenged in the character of Joseph, who treats Heathcliff cruelly primarily because of his strong religious beliefs, which has a hand in Heathcliff turning out the way he does.
* UnbuiltTrope: AllGirlsWantBadBoys is present in both Cathy and Isabella's characters, and both seems like a deconstruction of the trope. Isabella is attracted to Heathcliff because he's hidden his worse qualities and she's too naive to realise he's using her in his quest for revenge. Cathy meanwhile is used to show that the only person who could be attracted to such a cruel and destructive person is likely quite cruel and destructive herself.
* ValuesDissonance:
** The many lines calling Heathcliff "dark" conjure up thoughts of black Africans in modern readers' minds. Regency Era readers however would instead think of olive complexions (Heathcliff is often suspected to be Romani).
** Catherine the younger falls in love with both her cousins. Marriage between first cousins wasn't uncommon among the upper classes and didn't fall out of favor until after World War I.
** Isabella is subjected to an absurd amount of victim blaming for being seduced by a predatory man, trapped in an unhappy marriage with him and is considered DefiledForever when she escapes with her child by rape.
** The main obstacle in Cathy and Heathcliff being together is their class difference. Cathy would be expected to marry within her class, which is why she doesn't just elope with Heathcliff. This just makes her even less sympathetic to modern readers. Of course a big part of this is intentional to show how horrible class divides are in keeping lovers apart. The book does end after all with Catherine II falling in love with the poor orphan Hareton.
* VindicatedByHistory: When it was first published, the novel had a divisive reception from critics who felt it was well written but far too dark and the characters too unsympathetic (plus some shock that [[WomenAreDelicate a woman could write such a grim story]]). These days it's held up as a classic and iconic work of English literature.
* TheWoobie: The universe seems to conspire to make Isabella Linton's life a nightmare. She develops a PrecociousCrush on Heathcliff that a jealous Cathy reveals to others - which humiliates her and makes her withdraw from everyone. This leaves her prime fodder for Heathcliff to seduce her as part of his revenge - and as soon as they're married, she's tortured over the years until she can take no more and flees for her life.
* WTHCostumingDepartment: Ralph Fiennes in the 1992 film looks more like someone dressing up like a pirate for Halloween.
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* {{Narm}}: The name "Heathcliff" may make some readers [[WesternAnimation/{{Heathcliff}} think of]]... Well... Just watch [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el9kKP3aZbE this]].

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* {{Narm}}: The name "Heathcliff" may make some readers think of [[WesternAnimation/{{Heathcliff}} think of]]... Well... Just watch [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el9kKP3aZbE this]].an animated TV show]].
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** In the novel, Nelly says "But where did he come from, the little dark thing, harboured by a good man to his bane?" Creator/TomHardy, who played Heathcliff in the 2009 version, would later play ComicBook/{{Bane}} in ‘’Film/TheDarkKnightRises’’.
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* MagnificentBastard: Heathcliff, who manages to gain ownership of both the Heights and the Grange despite being neither an Earnshaw nor a Linton, or even a member of the gentry, through a combination of seduction (of Isabella and indirectly of Cathy Linton) and manipulation of the legal system.
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** Was Mr. Earnshaw justified in his ParentalFavoritism of poor orphaned Heathcliff over his two selfish, bratty biological children, or were Cathy and Hindley just typical rowdy kids who could have grown up to be better adults if they hadn't been treated as TheUnfavorites?

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** Was Mr. Earnshaw justified in his ParentalFavoritism of poor orphaned Heathcliff over his two selfish, bratty biological children, or were Cathy and Hindley just typical rowdy kids who could have grown up to be better adults if they hadn't been treated as TheUnfavorites?[[TheUnfavorite The Unfavorites]]?
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** Was Mr. Earnshaw justified in his ParentalFavoritism of poor orphaned Heathcliff over his two selfish, bratty biological children, or were Cathy and Hindley just typical rowdy kids who could have grown up to be better adults if they hadn't been treated as TheUnfavorites?

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: A few readers have [[http://livingston.schoolwires.com/139620929192030233/lib/139620929192030233/_files/Ellen_Dean_as_villain.pdf laid the blame for this tragedy]] at Nelly's feet, claiming that she is actually a very prejudiced person who only really cares about securing for herself a peaceful, comfortable existence and is consequently unable to relate to the [[TrueArtIsAngsty intense passions]] of Heathcliff or Cathy. May be [[JustifiedTrope justified]] if one considers her complicity in [[NiceJobBreakingItHero failing to reveal to Cathy that Heathcliff was present]] when she was discussing who to marry, [[WhatTheHellHero not telling Edgar Linton]] that his own wife was ill and dying, and [[WhatAnIdiot keeping Cathy II and Linton's relationship hidden]] until it was too late.

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A few readers have [[http://livingston.schoolwires.com/139620929192030233/lib/139620929192030233/_files/Ellen_Dean_as_villain.pdf laid the blame for this tragedy]] at Nelly's feet, claiming that she is actually a very prejudiced person who only really cares about securing for herself a peaceful, comfortable existence and is consequently unable to relate to the [[TrueArtIsAngsty intense passions]] of Heathcliff or Cathy. May be [[JustifiedTrope justified]] if one considers her complicity in [[NiceJobBreakingItHero failing to reveal to Cathy that Heathcliff was present]] when she was discussing who to marry, [[WhatTheHellHero not telling Edgar Linton]] that his own wife was ill and dying, and [[WhatAnIdiot keeping Cathy II and Linton's relationship hidden]] until it was too late.


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** The famous quote "I am Heathcliff!" is actually very misleading if you just read the back cover. What this situation needs more proper context on is the differences between Cathy and Isabella. Cathy by many means is just as sociopathic as Heathcliff is, the love between them is pure to them but alien to many others who can't wrap their heads around it. Isabella on the other hand practically finds Heathcliff TroubledButCute to her own detriment as Cathy readily points out. One meets Heathcliff on his level while the other if full of naivety without fully thinking. There are very major differences if someone is applying to this trope to Heathcliff thinking like Isabella vs thinking like Cathy. Just to add further context, Nelly lets Cathy have it after here "I am Heathcliff" line with "If I can make any sense of your nonsense, Miss, it only goes to show me that you are ignorant of the duties you undertake in marrying; or else that you are a wicked, unprincipled girl." Nelly is not only confounding Cathy on her plan but the whole principle in general. As while some people are the Cathy or the Isabella, some others might be the Nelly and find this whole conversation ridiculous.

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** The famous quote "I am Heathcliff!" is actually very misleading if you just read the back cover. What this situation needs more proper context on is the differences between Cathy and Isabella. Cathy by many means is just as sociopathic as Heathcliff is, the love between them is pure to them but alien to many others who can't wrap their heads around it. Isabella on the other hand practically finds Heathcliff TroubledButCute to her own detriment as Cathy readily points out. One meets Heathcliff on his level while the other if is full of naivety without fully thinking. There are very major differences if someone is applying to this trope to Heathcliff thinking like Isabella vs thinking like Cathy. Just to add further context, Nelly lets Cathy have it after here her "I am Heathcliff" line with "If I can make any sense of your nonsense, Miss, it only goes to show me that you are ignorant of the duties you undertake in marrying; or else that you are a wicked, unprincipled girl." Nelly is not only confounding Cathy on her plan but the whole principle in general. As while some people are the Cathy or the Isabella, some others might be the Nelly and find this whole conversation ridiculous.



* JerkassWoobie: Heathcliff is practically the TropeCodifier. Linton, Hareton and Catherine (II) could also qualify, although clearly the latter two are much more {{JerkWithAHeartofGold}}.

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** The famous quote "I am Heathcliff!" is actually very misleading if you just read the back cover. What this situation needs more proper context on is the differences between Cathy and Isabella. Cathy by many means is just as sociopathic as Heathcliff is, the love between them is pure to them but alien to many others who can't wrap their heads around it. Isabella on the other hand practically finds Heathcliff TroubledButCute to her own detriment as Cathy readily points out. One meets Heathcliff on his level while the other if full of naivety without fully thinking. There are very major differences if someone is applying to this trope to Heathcliff thinking like Isabella vs thinking like Cathy.
* Just to add further context, Nelly lets Cathy have it after here "I am Heathcliff" line with "If I can make any sense of your nonsense, Miss, it only goes to show me that you are ignorant of the duties you undertake in marrying; or else that you are a wicked, unprincipled girl." Nelly is not only confounding Cathy on her plan but the whole principle in general. As while some people are the Cathy or the Isabella, some others might be the Nelly and find this whole conversation ridiculous.

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** The famous quote "I am Heathcliff!" is actually very misleading if you just read the back cover. What this situation needs more proper context on is the differences between Cathy and Isabella. Cathy by many means is just as sociopathic as Heathcliff is, the love between them is pure to them but alien to many others who can't wrap their heads around it. Isabella on the other hand practically finds Heathcliff TroubledButCute to her own detriment as Cathy readily points out. One meets Heathcliff on his level while the other if full of naivety without fully thinking. There are very major differences if someone is applying to this trope to Heathcliff thinking like Isabella vs thinking like Cathy.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Many female readers insist that Heathcliff is a dashing hero, despite his many, ''many'' shortcomings (even to the point where they thought his [[spoiler:[[{{Squick}} digging up Catherine's body]] ]] was romantic). The author herself makes fun of this sentiment among her readers by making 18-year-old Isabella Linton idolize him. Catherine admonishes Isabella that "He's not a rough diamond--a pearl-containing oyster of a rustic: he's a fierce, pitiless, wolfish man" and Heathcliff comments on Isabella's naivety and romanticism regarding him, mocking it later in the book. It is very amusing that ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' tries so hard to compare itself to this story, when it is in fact denouncing the kind of relationship Stephenie Meyer tries to glorify.
** The famous quote "I am Heathcliff!" is actually very misleading if you just read the back cover. The line from Nelly right after it is: "If I can make any sense of your nonsense, Miss, it only goes to show me that you are ignorant of the duties you undertake in marrying; or else that you are a wicked, unprincipled girl." This pretty much brings the whole thing full circle. The love between Heathcliff and Cathy is a love between two people that a lot would call downright sociopathic. Isabella's "love" is full of naivety without fully thinking. So the real meaty question is more than likely when this trope comes up on a character like Heathcliff, is the person thinking like a "Cathy" or an "Isabella"? As, if they were thinking like a "Nelly", they'd be questioning why we are even having this conversation.
* HilariousInHindsight: In complete fairness, given Isabella Linton-Heathcliff's fate, it is difficult to imagine why anyone would constantly compare [[Literature/{{Twilight}} a book]] to ''Wuthering Heights'' and name the heroine of said book ''[[NamesTheSame Isabella]]''...

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Many female readers insist that Heathcliff is a dashing hero, despite his many, ''many'' shortcomings (even to the point where they thought his [[spoiler:[[{{Squick}} digging up Catherine's body]] ]] was romantic). The author herself story itself makes fun of this sentiment among her readers by making 18-year-old Isabella Linton idolize him. Catherine admonishes Isabella that "He's not a rough diamond--a pearl-containing oyster of a rustic: he's a fierce, pitiless, wolfish man" and Heathcliff comments on Isabella's naivety and romanticism regarding him, mocking it later in the book. It is very amusing that ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' tries so hard to compare itself to this story, when it is in fact denouncing the kind of relationship Stephenie Meyer tries to glorify.\n
** The famous quote "I am Heathcliff!" is actually very misleading if you just read the back cover. The line from What this situation needs more proper context on is the differences between Cathy and Isabella. Cathy by many means is just as sociopathic as Heathcliff is, the love between them is pure to them but alien to many others who can't wrap their heads around it. Isabella on the other hand practically finds Heathcliff TroubledButCute to her own detriment as Cathy readily points out. One meets Heathcliff on his level while the other if full of naivety without fully thinking. There are very major differences if someone is applying to this trope to Heathcliff thinking like Isabella vs thinking like Cathy.
* Just to add further context,
Nelly right lets Cathy have it after it is: here "I am Heathcliff" line with "If I can make any sense of your nonsense, Miss, it only goes to show me that you are ignorant of the duties you undertake in marrying; or else that you are a wicked, unprincipled girl." This pretty much brings Nelly is not only confounding Cathy on her plan but the whole thing full circle. The love between Heathcliff and Cathy is a love between two principle in general. As while some people that a lot would call downright sociopathic. Isabella's "love" is full of naivety without fully thinking. So are the real meaty question is more than likely when Cathy or the Isabella, some others might be the Nelly and find this trope comes up on a character like Heathcliff, is the person thinking like a "Cathy" or an "Isabella"? As, if they were thinking like a "Nelly", they'd be questioning why we are even having this conversation.
whole conversation ridiculous.
* HilariousInHindsight: In complete fairness, given Isabella Linton-Heathcliff's fate, it is difficult to imagine why anyone would constantly compare [[Literature/{{Twilight}} a book]] to ''Wuthering Heights'' and name the heroine of said book ''[[NamesTheSame Isabella]]''...Isabella]]''. It is very amusing that ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' tries so hard to compare itself to this story, when it is in fact denouncing the kind of relationship Stephenie Meyer tries to glorify.

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