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* EvenBetterSequel: Upon release, the game was heralded by both critics and fans as a fantastic sequel to an already great game, improving on essentially all aspects of the gameplay, and one of the best in the ''Total War'' series.
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*** Then when they finally got the ''launch'' trailer... it's a 360 trailer which opens with them getting slaughtered [[OverlyLogGag AGAIN]] and is as much about the other factions than it is about the High Elves.
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*** Then when they finally got the ''launch'' trailer... it's a 360 trailer which opens with them getting slaughtered [[OverlyLogGag [[OverlyLongGag AGAIN]] and is as much about the other factions than it is about the High Elves.
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Yeah, CA decided to say "fuck the high elves"...
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** A low-key one is happening with High Elf players, for several reasons:
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**** Then when they finally got the ''launch'' trailer... it's a 360 trailer which opens with them getting slaughtered [[OverlyLogGag AGAIN]] and is as much about the other factions than it is about the High Elves.
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*** The apparent lack of a faction trailer of their own, with them seemingly being skipped over straight to the Dark Elves and then the Skaven.
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*** The apparent lack of a faction trailer of their own, with them seemingly being skipped over straight to the Dark Elves and then the Skaven. This was only compounded when the Pre-Release trailer rubbed salt in the wound by introducing 'the noble High Elves' with the footage of them being slaughtered by Malekith in the Dark Elf trailer.
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* EvilIsCool: Malekith's design has already garnered a great deal of appreciation from the fandom. The sentiment only increased with the release of the Dark Elves cinematic trailer, which portrayed him as an nigh unstoppable killing machine with an incredibly intimidating voice to match.
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** When the first trailer debuted Malekith's designhas already quickly garnered a great deal of appreciation from the fandom. The sentiment only increased with the release of the Dark Elves cinematic trailer, which portrayed him as an nigh unstoppable killing machine with an incredibly intimidating voice to match.match.
** And of course the new evil factions as a whole are just as prone to this as their counterparts from the first game.
** When the first trailer debuted Malekith's design
** And of course the new evil factions as a whole are just as prone to this as their counterparts from the first game.
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** After many people reacted negatively to CA releasing the blood and gore as a separate DLC (for several games in a row), they've confirmed that while that same DLC will be present on the sequel, players who bought it for the first game, will automatically receive it for free in the second game.
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** Many comparisions to The Slann and Pepe The Frog have been made.
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** Many comparisions comparisons to The Slann and Pepe The Frog have been made.made. Also, Teclis joined Orion in the ComicBookFantasyCasting jokes with people finding he strongly resembled Creator/BenedictCumberbatch.
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*** In a similar note, the lands of Araby being occupied by a foreign power. Some are irritated by them not being represented at launch, whilst others believe that, like Norsca, Araby will be turned into a playable faction eventually(a second campaign trailer even emphasizes that the Arabyan lands are currently occupied by Bretonnian Crusaders; emphasis on ''CURRENTLY'')
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*** In a similar note, the lands of Araby being occupied by a foreign power. Some are irritated by them not being represented at launch, whilst others believe that, like Norsca, Araby will be turned into a playable faction eventually(a eventually (a second campaign trailer even emphasizes that the Arabyan lands are currently occupied by Bretonnian Crusaders; emphasis on ''CURRENTLY'')
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*** In a similar note, the lands of Araby being occupied by a foreign power. Some are irritated by them not being represented at launch, whilst others believe that, like Norsca, Araby will be turned into a playable faction eventually(a second campaign trailer even emphasizes that the Arabyan lands are currently occupied by Bretonnian Crusaders; emphasis on ''CURRENTLY'') .''CURRENTLY'')
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*** In a similar note, the lands of Araby being occupied by a foreign power. Some are irritated by them not being represented at launch, whilst others believe that, like Norsca, Araby will be turned into a playable faction eventually.eventually(a second campaign trailer even emphasizes that the Arabyan lands are currently occupied by Bretonnian Crusaders; emphasis on ''CURRENTLY'') .
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*** In a similar note, the lands of Araby being occupied by a foreign power. Some are irritated by them not being represented, whilst others believe that, like Norsca, Araby will be turned into a playable faction eventually.
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*** In a similar note, the lands of Araby being occupied by a foreign power. Some are irritated by them not being represented, represented at launch, whilst others believe that, like Norsca, Araby will be turned into a playable faction eventually.
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** When the Dark Elf trailer was shown, many praised Malekith's deep gravelly voice for being impressively intimidating and sinister. However, when a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f83-t-zpCI&t=81s quest battle video was shown over a month later]] many complained over his in-game VA sounding too similar to Balthasar Gelt, and wishing that CA would change it to being more similar to the trailer.
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** When the Dark Elf trailer was shown, many praised Malekith's deep gravelly voice for being impressively intimidating and sinister. However, when a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f83-t-zpCI&t=81s quest battle video was shown over a month later]] many complained over his in-game VA sounding too similar to Balthasar Gelt, and wishing that CA would change it to being more similar to the trailer.trailer.
** In a similar vein many have noted that the voice of Queek Headtaker sounded a good deal deeper in the campaign intro than the game itself, though the backlash against this hasn't been anywhere near as intense or widespread as the Malekith example.
** In a similar vein many have noted that the voice of Queek Headtaker sounded a good deal deeper in the campaign intro than the game itself, though the backlash against this hasn't been anywhere near as intense or widespread as the Malekith example.
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** When the Dark Elf trailer was shown, many praised Malekith's deep gravelly voice for being impressively intimidating.intimidating and sinister. However, when a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f83-t-zpCI&t=81s quest battle video was shown over a month later]] many complained over his in-game VA sounding too similar to Balthasar Gelt, and wishing that CA would change it to being more similar to the trailer.
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** When the Dark Elf trailer was shown, many praised Malekith's deep gravelly voice for being impressively intimidating. However, when a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f83-t-zpCI&t=81s quest battle video was shown over a month later]] many complained over his in-game VA sounding too similar to Balthasar Gelt, and wishing that CA would change it.it to being more similar to the trailer.
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** When the Dark Elf trailer was shown, many praised Malekith's deep gravelly voice for being impressively intimidating. However, when a [https://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f83-t-zpCI&t=81s quest battle video was shown over a month later] later]] many complained over his in-game VA sounding too similar to Balthasar Gelt, and wishing that CA would change it.
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** Many comparisions to The Slann and Pepe The Frog have been made.
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** Many comparisions to The Slann and Pepe The Frog have been made.made.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
** When the Dark Elf trailer was shown, many praised Malekith's deep gravelly voice for being impressively intimidating. However, when a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f83-t-zpCI&t=81s quest battle video was shown over a month later] many complained over his in-game VA sounding too similar to Balthasar Gelt, and wishing that CA would change it.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
** When the Dark Elf trailer was shown, many praised Malekith's deep gravelly voice for being impressively intimidating. However, when a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f83-t-zpCI&t=81s quest battle video was shown over a month later] many complained over his in-game VA sounding too similar to Balthasar Gelt, and wishing that CA would change it.
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Skaven trailer released. No High Elf trailer yet.
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** [[http://i.imgur.com/K4AWVHV.png The Hype Train goes beep beep!]] [[labelnote:Explanation]]The CA community manager mistakenly said that "beep beep" is the sound of a train, the fanbase instantly turned that into a meme[[/labelnote]]
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** Many comparisions to The Slann and Pepe The Frog have been made.
** Many comparisions to The Slann and Pepe The Frog have been made.
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** A low-key one is happening with High Elf players, for several reasons:
*** The apparent fact that the Asur have taken over the Empire's role of [[TheWorfEffect 'get stomped into the ground by other factions in their trailers to make them look cool']].
*** The apparent lack of a faction trailer of their own, with them seemingly being skipped over straight to the Dark Elves and then, presumably, the Skaven.
*** [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking The shield designs of the standard High Elf spearmen are too eye-burningly colorful.]]
*** The apparent fact that the Asur have taken over the Empire's role of [[TheWorfEffect 'get stomped into the ground by other factions in their trailers to make them look cool']].
*** The apparent lack of a faction trailer of their own, with them seemingly being skipped over straight to the Dark Elves and then, presumably, the Skaven.
*** [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking The shield designs of the standard High Elf spearmen are too eye-burningly colorful.]]
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** After the Dark Elves trailer, many users have been comparing Malekith to Darth Vader (Either outright calling him that or derivative nicknames like Darth Malekith). Mostly due to their similar backgrounds, but what hammered it down was a scene in said trailer mimicking the airlock scene from ''Film/RogueOne''. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH9mbR9IOxU One user from Youtube even edited the scene to include the music from Rogue One.]]
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** After the Dark Elves trailer, many users have been comparing Malekith to Darth Vader (Either outright calling him that or derivative nicknames like Darth Malekith). Mostly due to their similar backgrounds, but what hammered it down was a scene in said trailer mimicking the airlock scene from ''Film/RogueOne''. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH9mbR9IOxU One user from Youtube even edited the scene to include the music from Rogue One.]]]]
** [[http://i.imgur.com/K4AWVHV.png The Hype Train goes beep beep!]]
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** After the Dark Elves trailer, many users have been comparing (or outright calling) Malekith to Darth Vader.Vader (Either outright calling him that or derivative nicknames like Darth Malekith). Mostly due to their similar backgrounds, but what hammered it down was a scene in said trailer mimicking the airlock scene from ''Film/RogueOne''. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH9mbR9IOxU One user from Youtube even edited the scene to include the music from Rogue One.]]
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* EvilIsCool: Malekith's design has already garnered a great deal of appreciation from the fandom.
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* EvilIsCool: Malekith's design has already garnered a great deal of appreciation from the fandom. The sentiment only increased with the release of the Dark Elves cinematic trailer, which portrayed him as an nigh unstoppable killing machine with an incredibly intimidating voice to match.
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** After the Dark Elves trailer, many users have been comparing (or outright calling) Malekith to Darth Vader. Mostly due to their similar backgrounds, but what hammered it down was a scene in said trailer mimicking the airlock scene from ''Film/RogueOne''. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH9mbR9IOxU One user from Youtube even edited the scene to include the music from Rogue One.]]
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** After the Dark Elves trailer, many users have been comparing (or outright calling) Malekith to Darth Vader. Mostly due to their similar backgrounds, but what hammered it down was a scene in said trailer mimicking the airlock scene from ''Film/RogueOne''. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH9mbR9IOxU One user even edited the scene to include the music from Rogue One.]]
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* MemeticMutation: Due to the focus of the early marketing on the 'Fallen Gates' quest battle many have begun to joke that the game consists of nothing but this battle, referring to it as Total War: Warhammer 2: The Battle of the Fallen Gates, and similar titles. In addition many have also started to bring up the aforementioned battle in any situation they can think of.
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** Due to the focus of the early marketing on the 'Fallen Gates' quest battle many have begun to joke that the game consists of nothing but this battle, referring to it as Total War: Warhammer 2: The Battle of the Fallen Gates, and similar titles. In addition many have also started to bring up the aforementioned battle in any situation they can thinkof.of.
** After the Dark Elves trailer, many users have been comparing (or outright calling) Malekith to Darth Vader. Mostly due to their similar backgrounds, but what hammered it down was a scene in said trailer mimicking the airlock scene from ''Film/RogueOne''.
** Due to the focus of the early marketing on the 'Fallen Gates' quest battle many have begun to joke that the game consists of nothing but this battle, referring to it as Total War: Warhammer 2: The Battle of the Fallen Gates, and similar titles. In addition many have also started to bring up the aforementioned battle in any situation they can think
** After the Dark Elves trailer, many users have been comparing (or outright calling) Malekith to Darth Vader. Mostly due to their similar backgrounds, but what hammered it down was a scene in said trailer mimicking the airlock scene from ''Film/RogueOne''.
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* EvilIsCool: Malekith's design has already garnered a great deal of appreciation from the fandom.
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* EvilIsCool: Malekith's design has already garnered a great deal of appreciation from the fandom.fandom.
* MemeticMutation: Due to the focus of the early marketing on the 'Fallen Gates' quest battle many have begun to joke that the game consists of nothing but this battle, referring to it as Total War: Warhammer 2: The Battle of the Fallen Gates, and similar titles. In addition many have also started to bring up the aforementioned battle in any situation they can think of.
* MemeticMutation: Due to the focus of the early marketing on the 'Fallen Gates' quest battle many have begun to joke that the game consists of nothing but this battle, referring to it as Total War: Warhammer 2: The Battle of the Fallen Gates, and similar titles. In addition many have also started to bring up the aforementioned battle in any situation they can think of.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: CA revealed they were getting rid of the highly controversial regional occupation system in the second game, and would do away with it in the first game eventually.
* DiscreditedMeme: ''Many'' people are absolutely ''sick'' of the "Skaven don't exist" meme that [[AscendedMeme Creative Assembly]] was throwing around a lot.
* BrokenBase:
** After over a week of buildup (tracked by a countdown timer on the ''Total War'' website), the reveal that the next game in the franchise would simply be an immediate continuation of the ''Warhammer'' trilogy, instead of a new historical title, upset many long-time ''Total War'' fans who were hoping for the teased "unexplored time period" to be revealed instead. Many are already declaring that ''Total War: Warhammer'''s [[WinBackTheCrowd rousing success compared to previous installments]] has resulted in the planned trilogy becoming a CreatorsPet of sorts.
*** This was despite [[https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/5zbhlc/total_war_warhammer_attending_egx_rezzed_find_out/?st=j1q49kyk&sh=f4a08340 the community manager for Creative Assembly repeatedly announcing]] on ''Facebook'', ''Twitter'', the ''Total War'' subreddit and the official ''Total War'' forums during aforementioned buildup that the big announcement during the event (EGX 2017) would be Warhammer-related. Particularly vocal [[TheFundamentalist purists of Total War's historical games]] still [[FanDumb acted as if it was out of the blue]] and went on [[MisBlamed attacking CA]] and [[FanHater fans of the Warhammer franchise]] [[StopHavingFunGuys as well as the fantasy genre in general]] regardless. This in turn caused a backlash across ''Reddit'', ''Facebook'', ''Steam'' and ''YouTube'' from fantasy fans as well as players who liked both fantasy and historical titles but were tired of the vitriol.
** The fact the Southlands are going to be in the game, but apparently without the Tomb Kings.
* EvilIsCool: Malekith's design has already garnered a great deal of appreciation from the fandom.
* DiscreditedMeme: ''Many'' people are absolutely ''sick'' of the "Skaven don't exist" meme that [[AscendedMeme Creative Assembly]] was throwing around a lot.
* BrokenBase:
** After over a week of buildup (tracked by a countdown timer on the ''Total War'' website), the reveal that the next game in the franchise would simply be an immediate continuation of the ''Warhammer'' trilogy, instead of a new historical title, upset many long-time ''Total War'' fans who were hoping for the teased "unexplored time period" to be revealed instead. Many are already declaring that ''Total War: Warhammer'''s [[WinBackTheCrowd rousing success compared to previous installments]] has resulted in the planned trilogy becoming a CreatorsPet of sorts.
*** This was despite [[https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/5zbhlc/total_war_warhammer_attending_egx_rezzed_find_out/?st=j1q49kyk&sh=f4a08340 the community manager for Creative Assembly repeatedly announcing]] on ''Facebook'', ''Twitter'', the ''Total War'' subreddit and the official ''Total War'' forums during aforementioned buildup that the big announcement during the event (EGX 2017) would be Warhammer-related. Particularly vocal [[TheFundamentalist purists of Total War's historical games]] still [[FanDumb acted as if it was out of the blue]] and went on [[MisBlamed attacking CA]] and [[FanHater fans of the Warhammer franchise]] [[StopHavingFunGuys as well as the fantasy genre in general]] regardless. This in turn caused a backlash across ''Reddit'', ''Facebook'', ''Steam'' and ''YouTube'' from fantasy fans as well as players who liked both fantasy and historical titles but were tired of the vitriol.
** The fact the Southlands are going to be in the game, but apparently without the Tomb Kings.
* EvilIsCool: Malekith's design has already garnered a great deal of appreciation from the fandom.
