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** Bloody Mary is quickly garning popularity, with just a [[OneSceneWonder small but effective appearance]] in Episode 3.

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** Bloody Mary is quickly garning garnering popularity, with just a [[OneSceneWonder small but effective appearance]] in Episode 3.
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** As a counterpoint to the above, the game also contains examples of people of all walks not being wise with their money and earning the consequences of it: Beauty and Beast losing most of Bigby's sympathy when he learns that their debt problems started because they were still trying to live like royalty ("used to a certain lifestyle" is the phrase they used), Toad's increasing hypocrisy with his constant griping about the cost of Glamours for his family when he has recently bought himself a sportscar, and the increasing patheticness of Crane when his embezzlement habits are exposed.
*** In a closely related vein, entitlement and unreasonable expectations of aid from the little people to government is addressed, with Bigby constantly getting yelled at for not helping people when they first got in right spots, when often those same people didn't call him in the first place and were uncooperative when he was trying to solve the problem.

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** As a counterpoint to the above, the game also contains examples of people of all walks not being wise with their money and earning the consequences of it: Beauty and Beast losing most of Bigby's sympathy when he learns that their debt problems started because they were still trying to live like royalty ("used to a certain lifestyle" is the phrase they used), Toad's increasing hypocrisy with his constant griping about the cost of Glamours for his family when he has recently bought himself a sportscar, and the increasing abject patheticness of Crane when his embezzlement habits are exposed.
*** In a closely related vein, entitlement and unreasonable expectations of aid from the little people to government is addressed, with Bigby constantly getting yelled at for not helping people when they first got in right tight spots, when often those same people didn't call him in the first place and were uncooperative when he was trying to solve the problem.
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*** In a closely related vein, entitlement and unreasonable expectations of aid from the little people to government is addressed, with Bigby constantly getting yelled at for not helping people when they first got in right spots, when often those same people didn't call him in the first place and were uncooperative when he was trying to solve the problem.
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** As a counterpoint to the above, the game also contains examples of people of all walks not being wise with their money and earning the consequences of it: Beauty and Beast losing most of Bigby's sympathy when he learns that their debt problems started because they were still trying to live like royalty ("used to a certain lifestyle" is the phrase they used), Toad's constant griping about the cost of Glamours for his family when he has recently bought himself a sportscar, and the increasing patheticness of Crane when his embezzlement habits are exposed.

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** As a counterpoint to the above, the game also contains examples of people of all walks not being wise with their money and earning the consequences of it: Beauty and Beast losing most of Bigby's sympathy when he learns that their debt problems started because they were still trying to live like royalty ("used to a certain lifestyle" is the phrase they used), Toad's increasing hypocrisy with his constant griping about the cost of Glamours for his family when he has recently bought himself a sportscar, and the increasing patheticness of Crane when his embezzlement habits are exposed.
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** As a counterpoint to the above, the game also contains examples of people of all walks not being wise with their money and earning the consequences of it: Beauty and Beast losing most of Bigby's sympathy when he learns that their debt problems started because they were still trying to live like royalty ("used to a certain lifestyle" is the phrase they used), Toad's constant griping about the cost of Glamours for his family when he has recently bought himself a sportscar, and the increasing patheticness of Crane when his embezzlement habits are exposed.
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** FridgeHorror: Then realize that Fables can only come back from the dead if {{Muggles}} remember them.
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* {{Anvilicious}} / SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The driving force of the story is the social divide between the rich and poor, and the government's failure to answer the needs of the latter.
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** Th first sequence of Episode 4 is resetting your broken arm. It takes several attempts.
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** Thankfully, Episodes 3 and 4 were shipped without problems.
* TheScrappy: Toad to some. He's an absolute jackass who also has shades of hypocrisy (Like buying a sports car while heavily in debt and in need of a glamour for him and his kid, and spying on Bigby with the Magic Mirror in Episode 2).
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** The Jersey Devil's true form
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* FridgeBrilliance:
** Considering that the only reason Bigby ever came to Fabletown and civilized himself in the first place was to spend time with Snow White, him torturing the suspect for information on [[spoiler: her presumed killer]], pocketing Dee's money and being prepared to strike Crane suddenly takes on a whole new meaning, implying that he's preparing to cut his ties with Fabletown after tracking down and killing the perpetrator in revenge. This becomes even more obvious if one remembers that in the comic itself, [[spoiler: when Snow White and Bigby's kids had to move to the Farm (where Bigby was not allowed) he immediately left Fabletown and civilization altogether.]]
** A small one, but Grendel is almost always encountered in the Trip Trap, at night. Why? A bar is probably the closest modern-day thing to a mead hall.
** In Episode 1, Crane tells Snow to call Vivian to tell her he's coming in early for his massage, and to get him a bottle of wine. We later learn that [[spoiler:Vivian works for the Pudding and Pie as a receptionist, and Crane's "massages" are likely his meetings with Lily. Doubles as Fridge Horror when you realise Snow was likely organising Crane's meetings with Lily unknowningly.]]
** [[spoiler: Bloody Mary is psychotic and completely deranged because unlike the Fables, she's an UrbanLegend. While Fables usually have AnAesop or some lesson to be learned, Mary is just a literal horror show devised by modern minds.]]
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* [[spoiler: Bloody Mary is psychotic and completely deranged because unlike the Fables, she's an UrbanLegend. While Fables usually have AnAesop or some lesson to be learned, Mary is just a literal horror show devised by modern minds.]]

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* ** [[spoiler: Bloody Mary is psychotic and completely deranged because unlike the Fables, she's an UrbanLegend. While Fables usually have AnAesop or some lesson to be learned, Mary is just a literal horror show devised by modern minds.]]
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* [[spoiler: Bloody Mary is psychotic and completely deranged because unlike the Fables, she's an UrbanLegend. While Fables usually have AnAesop or some lesson to be learned, Mary is just a literal horror show devised by modern minds.]]
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** In Episode 1, Crane tells Snow to call Vivian to tell her he's coming in early for his massage, and to get him a bottle of wine. We later learn that Vivian works for the Pudding and Pie as a receptionist, and Crane's "massages" are likely his meetings with Lily. Doubles as Fridge Horror when you realise Snow was likely organising Crane's meetings with Lily unknowningly.

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** In Episode 1, Crane tells Snow to call Vivian to tell her he's coming in early for his massage, and to get him a bottle of wine. We later learn that Vivian [[spoiler:Vivian works for the Pudding and Pie as a receptionist, and Crane's "massages" are likely his meetings with Lily. Doubles as Fridge Horror when you realise Snow was likely organising Crane's meetings with Lily unknowningly. ]]
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** In Episode 1, Crane tells Snow to call Vivian to tell her he's coming in early for his massage, and to get him a bottle of wine. We later learn that Vivian works for the Pudding and Pie as a receptionist, and Crane's "massages" are likely his meetings with Lily. Doubles as Fridge Horror when you realise Snow was likely organising Crane's meetings with Lily unknowningly.
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Alll Complete Monster examples go through the clean up thread.


* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Bloody Mary, a PsychoForHire who brags about murdering families in her spare time.]] Whereas most formerly "bad" fables at least try to appear somewhat good (or at least more humane) since their former days, she doesn't even bother.

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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Bloody Mary, a PsychoForHire who brags about murdering families in her spare time.]] Whereas most formerly "bad" fables at least try to appear somewhat good (or at least more humane) since their former days, she doesn't even bother.%%Do NOT add Complete Monster examples without discussing it with the clean up thread.
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* CatharsisFactor: Yeah you don't really need to slap Georgie Porgie around or smash any of his stuff, but it's pretty god damned satisfying.

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Yeah you don't really need to slap Georgie Porgie around or smash any of his stuff, but it's pretty god damned satisfying.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Bluebeard seems to be getting this treatment a bit, due at least in part to sharing the same voice actor as Lee Everett from ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead''.

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Bluebeard seems to be getting this treatment a bit, due at least in part to sharing the same voice actor as Lee Everett from ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead''.



* FridgeBrilliance: Considering that the only reason Bigby ever came to Fabletown and civilized himself in the first place was to spend time with Snow White, him torturing the suspect for information on [[spoiler: her presumed killer]], pocketing Dee's money and being prepared to strike Crane suddenly takes on a whole new meaning, implying that he's preparing to cut his ties with Fabletown after tracking down and killing the perpetrator in revenge. This becomes even more obvious if one remembers that in the comic itself, [[spoiler: when Snow White and Bigby's kids had to move to the Farm (where Bigby was not allowed) he immediately left Fabletown and civilization altogether.]]

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Considering that the only reason Bigby ever came to Fabletown and civilized himself in the first place was to spend time with Snow White, him torturing the suspect for information on [[spoiler: her presumed killer]], pocketing Dee's money and being prepared to strike Crane suddenly takes on a whole new meaning, implying that he's preparing to cut his ties with Fabletown after tracking down and killing the perpetrator in revenge. This becomes even more obvious if one remembers that in the comic itself, [[spoiler: when Snow White and Bigby's kids had to move to the Farm (where Bigby was not allowed) he immediately left Fabletown and civilization altogether.]]



* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Telltale and Vertigo made it clear that the game was canon in the comic timeline, meaning [[spoiler: anyone who's read any of Fables will know that Snow White's not staying dead.]]
** [[spoiler: She wasn't even dead to begin with.]]

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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Telltale and Vertigo made it clear that the game was canon in the comic timeline, meaning [[spoiler: anyone who's read any of Fables will know that Snow White's not staying dead.]]
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White wasn't even dead to begin with.]]
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* FridgeBrilliance: Considering that the only reason Bigby ever came to Fabletown and civilized himself in the first place was to spend time with Snow White, him torturing the suspect for information on [[spoiler: her presumed killer]], pocketing Dee's money and being prepared to strike Crane suddenly takes on a whole new meaning, implying that he's preparing to cut his ties with Fabletown after tracking down and killing the perpetrator in revenge. This becomes even more obvious if one remembers that in the comic itself, [[spoiler: when Snow White and Bigby's kids had to move to the Farm (where Bigby was not allowed) he immediately leaves Fabletown and civilization altogether.]]

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* FridgeBrilliance: Considering that the only reason Bigby ever came to Fabletown and civilized himself in the first place was to spend time with Snow White, him torturing the suspect for information on [[spoiler: her presumed killer]], pocketing Dee's money and being prepared to strike Crane suddenly takes on a whole new meaning, implying that he's preparing to cut his ties with Fabletown after tracking down and killing the perpetrator in revenge. This becomes even more obvious if one remembers that in the comic itself, [[spoiler: when Snow White and Bigby's kids had to move to the Farm (where Bigby was not allowed) he immediately leaves left Fabletown and civilization altogether.]]
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* FridgeBrilliance: Considering that the only reason Bigby ever came to Fabletown and civilized himself in the first place was to spend time with Snow White, him torturing the suspect for information on [[spoiler: her presumed killer]], pocketing Dee's money and being prepared to strike Crane suddenly takes on a whole new meaning, implying that he's preparing to cut his ties with Fabletown after tracking down and killing the perpetrator in revenge. This becomes even more obvious if one remembers that in the comic itself, [[spoiler: when Snow White and Bigby's kids had to move to the Farm (where Bigby was not allowed) he immediately leaves Fabletown and returns to nature.]]

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* FridgeBrilliance: Considering that the only reason Bigby ever came to Fabletown and civilized himself in the first place was to spend time with Snow White, him torturing the suspect for information on [[spoiler: her presumed killer]], pocketing Dee's money and being prepared to strike Crane suddenly takes on a whole new meaning, implying that he's preparing to cut his ties with Fabletown after tracking down and killing the perpetrator in revenge. This becomes even more obvious if one remembers that in the comic itself, [[spoiler: when Snow White and Bigby's kids had to move to the Farm (where Bigby was not allowed) he immediately leaves Fabletown and returns to nature.civilization altogether.]]
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* FridgeBrilliance: Considering that the only reason Bigby ever came to Fabletown and civilized himself in the first place was to spend time with Snow White, him torturing the suspect for information on [[spoiler: her presumed killer]], pocketing Dee's money and being prepared to strike Crane suddenly takes on a whole new meaning, implying that he's preparing to cut his ties with Fabletown after tracking down and killing the perpetrator in revenge. This becomes even more obvious if one remembers that in the comic itself, [[spoiler: when Snow White and Bigby's kids had to move to the Farm (where Bigby was not allowed) he immediately cut ties with Fabletown and went back to the newly freed Homelands.]]

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* FridgeBrilliance: Considering that the only reason Bigby ever came to Fabletown and civilized himself in the first place was to spend time with Snow White, him torturing the suspect for information on [[spoiler: her presumed killer]], pocketing Dee's money and being prepared to strike Crane suddenly takes on a whole new meaning, implying that he's preparing to cut his ties with Fabletown after tracking down and killing the perpetrator in revenge. This becomes even more obvious if one remembers that in the comic itself, [[spoiler: when Snow White and Bigby's kids had to move to the Farm (where Bigby was not allowed) he immediately cut ties with leaves Fabletown and went back returns to the newly freed Homelands.nature.]]
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Uh...what? Since when was this the case? If anything, Grendel is simply being supportive of Holly.


** Not to mention Grendel's behavior. In episode 1 he's angry that Bigby didn't start caring about what was happening to Fables outside of the rich apartment complex the Woodlands until it affected them. In Episode 2 when Bigby tells Holly [[spoiler: Lily is dead]] Grendel wants to be there for Holly and keep Jack from being his usual slimey self but takes a walk when asked. Then in episode 3 at [[spoiler: Lily's funeral you can find a touching goodbye letter written to Lily from Grendel. Then when TweedleDee calls Lily "Another Dead Whore" Grendel snaps and attacks. Later at the Trip Trap Doctor Swineheart has given Grendel a sedative thats not supposed to be mixed with alcohol. Grendel is doing it anyway drunkenly comments "That was a shitty sendoff for a pretty ok lady" and is violently angry with Woodsman after finding out that Woodsman was one of Lily's clients. Grendel seemed to be in love with Lily and her death is killing him]].
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** Bloody Mary is quickly garning popularity, with just a [[OneSceneWonder small but effective appearance]] in Episode 3.
* EvilIsCool: Again, Bloody Mary.
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** Likewise, [[spoiler: Wolfed out]] Bigby gets a chance of paying the Tweedles back for all the crap they've been pulling in Episode 3.

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** Likewise, [[spoiler: Wolfed out]] Bigby gets you get a chance of paying the Tweedles back for all the crap they've been pulling in Episode 3.
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** Likewise, [[spoiler: Wolfed out]] Bigby gets a chance of paying the Tweedles back for all the crap they've been pulling in Episode 3.
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** A small one, but Grendel is almost always encountered in the Trip Trap, at night. Why? A bar is probably the closest modern-day thing to a mead hall.
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While I agree that Bloody Mary\'s appearance is a spoiler (hence her hidden identity in the characters page), I don\'t think it\'s a spoiler to say that there is a female character who is a Complete Monster. Also it\'s very easy to differentiate between \'he\' and \'she\', tags or no tags.


* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Bloody Mary, a PsychoForHire who brags about murdering families in her spare time.]] Whereas most formerly "bad" fables at least try to appear somewhat good (or at least more humane) since their former days, [[spoiler:she]] doesn't even bother.

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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Bloody Mary, a PsychoForHire who brags about murdering families in her spare time.]] Whereas most formerly "bad" fables at least try to appear somewhat good (or at least more humane) since their former days, [[spoiler:she]] she doesn't even bother.
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*CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Bloody Mary, a PsychoForHire who brags about murdering families in her spare time.]] Whereas most formerly "bad" fables at least try to appear somewhat good (or at least more humane) since their former days, [[spoiler:she]] doesn't even bother.
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* CatharsisFactor: Yeah you don't really need to slap Georgie Porgie around or smash any of his stuff, but it's pretty god damned satisfying.


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** [[spoiler: If the player chooses to kill Tweedle Dum, than Bigby does so by ''tearing his throat out''.]]
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** Not to mention Grendel's behavior. In episode 1 he's angry that Bigby didn't start caring about what was happening to Fables outside of the rich apartment complex the Woodlands until it affected them. In Episode 2 when Bigby tells Holly [[spoiler: Lily is dead]] Grendel wants to be there for Holly and keep Jack from being his usual slimey self but takes a walk when asked. Then in episode 3 at [[spoiler: Lily's funeral you can find a touching goodbye]] letter written to Lily from Grendel. Then when TweedleDee calls Lily "Another Dead Whore" Grendel snaps and attacks. Later at the Trip Trap Doctor Swineheart has given Grendel a sedative thats not supposed to be mixed with alcohol. Grendel is doing it anyway drunkenly comments "That was a shitty sendoff for a pretty ok lady" and is violently angry with Woodsman after finding out that Woodsman was one of Lily's clients. Grendel seemed to be in love with Lily and her death is killing him.]]

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** Not to mention Grendel's behavior. In episode 1 he's angry that Bigby didn't start caring about what was happening to Fables outside of the rich apartment complex the Woodlands until it affected them. In Episode 2 when Bigby tells Holly [[spoiler: Lily is dead]] Grendel wants to be there for Holly and keep Jack from being his usual slimey self but takes a walk when asked. Then in episode 3 at [[spoiler: Lily's funeral you can find a touching goodbye]] goodbye letter written to Lily from Grendel. Then when TweedleDee calls Lily "Another Dead Whore" Grendel snaps and attacks. Later at the Trip Trap Doctor Swineheart has given Grendel a sedative thats not supposed to be mixed with alcohol. Grendel is doing it anyway drunkenly comments "That was a shitty sendoff for a pretty ok lady" and is violently angry with Woodsman after finding out that Woodsman was one of Lily's clients. Grendel seemed to be in love with Lily and her death is killing him.]] him]].

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