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* OnceOriginalNowCommon: In 1983, the film was notable for its unique look at teenagers - particularly those who came from troubled home lives; note that this is one year before Creator/JohnHughes started making his teen-oriented comedies. Jane Jenkins and Janet Hirshenson have stated that ''The Outsiders'' "created a new type of filmmaking":
--> "This movie was one of the few Hollywood offerings to deal realistically with kids from the wrong side of the tracks, and to portray honestly children whose parents had abused, neglected, or otherwise failed them."



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: In 1983, the film was notable for its unique look at teenagers - particularly those who came from troubled home lives; note that this is one year before Creator/JohnHughes started making his teen-oriented comedies. Jane Jenkins and Janet Hirshenson have stated that ''The Outsiders'' "created a new type of filmmaking":
--> "This movie was one of the few Hollywood offerings to deal realistically with kids from the wrong side of the tracks, and to portray honestly children whose parents had abused, neglected, or otherwise failed them."
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** [[spoiler:The super-imposed Johnny at the end of the film, where Ponyboy reads his letter.]] It's fine until they zoom in dramatically at the end of his speech.
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** In this film, Ralph Macchio is wanted for murder. 9 years later- in ''Film/MyCousinVinny,'' he would be wrongfully convicted of murder.

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** In this film, Ralph Macchio is wanted for murder. murder for a killing he committed. 9 years later- in ''Film/MyCousinVinny,'' he would be wrongfully convicted of prosecuted for murder.
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* MisaimedFandom: Since the novel and movie are basically a gang of TroubledButCute teenage pretty boys, who all have strong emotional relationships with each other, readers have gone crazy with the HoYay and belief most of the characters were gay or at least bisexual. Particularly the relationships between Ponyboy and Johnny, Dallas and Johnny, and Sodapop and Steve. Author S.E. Hinton has pushed back on this and says she wrote none of the characters like that. This has gotten her into a few Twitter wars with fans.

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* MisaimedFandom: Since the novel and movie are basically a gang of TroubledButCute teenage pretty boys, who all have strong emotional relationships with each other, readers have gone crazy with the HoYay and belief believe that most of the characters were gay or at least bisexual. Particularly the relationships between Ponyboy and Johnny, Dallas and Johnny, and Sodapop and Steve. Author S.E. Hinton has pushed back on this and says she wrote none of the characters like that. This has gotten her into a few Twitter wars with fans.
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** In this film, Ralph Macchio is wanted for murder. 9 years later- in ''Film/MyCousinVinny,"he would be wrongfully convicted of murder.

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** In this film, Ralph Macchio is wanted for murder. 9 years later- in ''Film/MyCousinVinny,"he ''Film/MyCousinVinny,'' he would be wrongfully convicted of murder.
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** In this film, Ralph Macchio is wanted for murder. 9 years later, in ''Film/MyCousinVinny'',he would be wrongfully convicted of murder.

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** In this film, Ralph Macchio is wanted for murder. 9 years later, later- in ''Film/MyCousinVinny'',he ''Film/MyCousinVinny,"he would be wrongfully convicted of murder.

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** In this film, Ralph Macchio is wanted for murder. 9 years later, in ''Film/MyCousinVinny'',he would be wrongfully convicted of murder.



** The Curtis family has its moments: Ponyboy thinks Soda looks like a movie star and at one point Soda goes to sleep with his head in Darry's lap.

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** The Curtis family has its moments: Ponyboy thinks Soda looks like a movie star and at one point Soda goes to sleep with his head in Darry's lap. Likewise, Ponyboy and Sodapop share the same bed, and Soda gives Darry back massages after a long day at work.
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** The book shows how the Socs are no better than the Greasers, they're just given free passes because they come from financially well-off families that can do damage control and save their hides.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Mrs. Cade. On the one hand, she's described as abusive by Ponyboy and [[spoiler:Johnny refusing to let her see him on his deathbed]] confirms that her son also sees her that way. However, she only has one scene, admittedly one where she appears as a HateSink who antagonizes Ponyboy and Two-Bit for being greasers, even though her own son is one. Did she actually love her son or is she really as abusive as described? Her being willing to see her son when [[spoiler: he's dying]] does cast some doubt. One can only help but wonder how her visit would've went.

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Mrs. Cade. On the one hand, she's described as abusive by Ponyboy and [[spoiler:Johnny refusing to let her see him on his deathbed]] confirms that her son also sees her that way. However, she only has one scene, admittedly one where she appears as a HateSink who antagonizes Ponyboy and Two-Bit for being greasers, even though her own son is one. Did she actually love her son or is she really as abusive as described? Her being willing to see her son when [[spoiler: he's dying]] does cast some doubt. One can only help but wonder how her visit would've went. Abusers ''can'' love their victims, so it leaves her open to interpretation as to whether she loves Johnny or not. Or perhaps him getting into an accident made her have a HeelRealization that was unfortunately too late to take. Or more cynically, now that her son was all over the papers as a local hero, did she go to visit him in the hospital out of obligation?
** Cherry's line about how she hopes she doesn't see Dally again in case [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys she falls in love with him]] can open up different interpretations of her reaction to him hitting on her at the drive-in. She could just want to be left alone and not like him harassing her. But since Bob is a bit of a bad boy himself, could Cherry see similarities in Dally's behaviour to Bob's, and was getting aware of her habit for drifting towards bad boys? And she still goes to see Dally to get him to pass on a message to Johnny and Ponyboy. Was she just swallowing any fears or reservations she had so the boys could know she would testify on their behalf? Or did she in some way want to see Dally again?



** Emilio Estevez as an unemployed Greaser who sticks up for anyone being mistreated is a bit amusing when one thinks of his role in ''Film/TheBreakfastClub'' two years later - there he's a privileged [[TheAce Ace]] who's in detention for bullying a runty classmate. He also plays Two-Bit as slightly more eccentric in the film, making him seem slightly reminiscent of his ''Breakfast Club'' love interest - the "Basket Case" Alison Reynolds.



* TheWoobie: Johnny - a child of abuse who becomes a murderer just to save his best friend: in spite of Bob's general nastiness, Johnny is guilty about it the whole time; [[spoiler: he ultimately dies of burns]].
** Ponyboy- an orphaned 14 year old, who lives with his two older brothers, and has a difficult relationship with his oldest brother- who constantly chastises him, is attacked multiple times (even to the point of a near death situation), and loses two of his close friends within days.

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Johnny - a child of abuse who becomes a murderer just to save his best friend: in spite of Bob's general nastiness, Johnny is guilty about it the whole time; [[spoiler: he ultimately dies of burns]].
** Ponyboy- Ponyboy - an orphaned 14 year old, who lives with his two older brothers, and has a difficult relationship with his oldest brother- who constantly chastises him, is attacked multiple times (even to the point of a near death situation), and loses two of his close friends within days. days.
** Sodapop is the eternal middle child, and often dragged into the arguments between Darry and Ponyboy. It's only towards the end that it's explored just how hard it is for him to have to be the mediator between those two fights. Not to mention [[spoiler: the love of his life breaking it off with him via DearJohnLetter]].
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** Ralph Macchio plays a character named Johnny in this film. Only a year after, in his next film he would be [[Film/TheKarateKid bullied by a character named Johnny.]]

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** Ralph Macchio plays a character named Johnny in this film. Only a year after, in In his next film he would be [[Film/TheKarateKid bullied by a character named Johnny.]]
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** Ralph Macchio plays a character named Johnny in this film. Only a year after, in his next film he would be [[Film/TheKarateKid bullied by a character named Johnny.]]
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* FridgeLogic: In Johnny's last letter to Ponyboy, he says "I'm going to miss you guys". But why would he say that? He knew he was going to die from his injuries and meant "I'll miss you in the afterlife".
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* {{Narm}}: The extended cut replaces most of the movie score with generic surfer music, most annoyingly during the rumble. [[spoiler: It’s at it’s worst when the climax of the movie, Dally’s shooting, is accompanied by random guitar riffs.]]

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* {{Narm}}: The extended cut replaces most of the movie score with generic surfer music, most annoyingly during the rumble. [[spoiler: It’s at it’s its worst when the climax of the movie, Dally’s shooting, is accompanied by random guitar riffs.]]
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* FansPreferTheNewHer: While on the run, Ponyboy and Johnny have to cut their hair - and Ponyboy has to [[DyeOrDie bleach his]]. Even though he's not happy about it, and the other characters make fun of it, in the movie version...well it looks like Johnny actually did a good job. Johnny's haircut doesn't even look that bad.

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* FansPreferTheNewHer: While on the run, Ponyboy and Johnny have to cut their hair - and Ponyboy has to [[DyeOrDie bleach his]]. Even though he's not happy about it, and the other characters make fun of it, in the movie version...well well, it looks like Johnny actually did a good job. Johnny's haircut doesn't even look that bad.
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** Ponyboy- an orphaned 14 year old, who lives with his two older brothers, and has a difficult relationship with his oldest brother- who constantly chastises him, is attacked multiple times (even to the point of a near death situation), and loses two of his close friends within days.
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* FridgeLogic: In Johnny's last letter to Ponyboy, he says "I'm going to miss you guys". But why would he say that? He knew he was going to die from his injuries and meant "I'll miss you in the afterlife".
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* {{Narm}}: The extended cut replaces most of the movie score with generic surfer music, most annoyingly during the rumble.

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* {{Narm}}: The extended cut replaces most of the movie score with generic surfer music, most annoyingly during the rumble. [[spoiler: It’s at it’s worst when the climax of the movie, Dally’s shooting, is accompanied by random guitar riffs.]]
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The book is one for 1960s America and its depiction of teen gangs based on subcultures are very clearly a reflection of the times; note that the presence of greasers (and arguably the lack of hippies, who ARE present in some of Hinton's slightly later novels), very specifically sets it in the early to mid 1960s, rather than the later part of the decade. (The movie, on the other hand, is an intentional period piece, as it wasn't made until the 1980s but was still set in 1965.)

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* CommonKnowledge: It was often assumed that Sodapop's canon fate was to get drafted into Vietnam and die there, with WordOfGod claiming it so. SE Hinton eventually clarified that [[https://twitter.com/se4realhinton/status/793898142026440704 it's not canon]], and it was something she said to help Rob Lowe get into character.



** Sodapop doesn't play that big of a role in the novel's plot, but is very well-liked for being a CoolBigBro and a bit of a [[TheWoobie Woobie]]. Some people [[DeathOfTheAuthor outright ignore Hinton's claim]] that [[spoiler:he has fallen in war]], thinking that he didn't deserve an ending like that.
*** [[spoiler: [[https://twitter.com/se4realhinton/status/793898142026440704 As she stated on Twitter]], Hinton didn't exactly claim that he died in war. This was only said by Hinton to Rob Lowe in order to help him with his interpretation of Sodapop for the 1983 film adaptation, and she's clarified that it isn't canon.]]

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** Sodapop doesn't play that big of a role in the novel's plot, but is very well-liked for being a CoolBigBro and a bit of a [[TheWoobie Woobie]]. Some people [[DeathOfTheAuthor outright ignore Hinton's claim]] that [[spoiler:he has fallen in war]], thinking that he didn't deserve an ending like that.
*** [[spoiler: [[https://twitter.com/se4realhinton/status/793898142026440704 As she stated on Twitter]], Hinton didn't exactly claim that he died in war. This was only said by Hinton to Rob Lowe in order to help him with his interpretation of Sodapop for the 1983 film adaptation, and she's clarified that it isn't canon.]]



* FirstInstallmentWins: ''The Outsiders'' was the first book Hinton has ever written, she ended up writing multiple other books, too, some set in [[SharedUniverse the same universe]]. Regardless, it was this one that remained the most popular and well-known.
* HilariousInHindsight: Our protagonist's name is Ponyboy; around fifty years later in 2010, we see ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' and its well-known fanbase with adult men and teenage boys.

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* FirstInstallmentWins: FansPreferTheNewHer: While on the run, Ponyboy and Johnny have to cut their hair - and Ponyboy has to [[DyeOrDie bleach his]]. Even though he's not happy about it, and the other characters make fun of it, in the movie version...well it looks like Johnny actually did a good job. Johnny's haircut doesn't even look that bad.
* FirstInstallmentWins:
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''The Outsiders'' was the first book Hinton has ever written, she ended up writing multiple other books, too, some set in [[SharedUniverse the same universe]]. Regardless, it was this one that remained the most popular and well-known.
** The film itself is more remembered than the other adaptations, and its sequel TV series only lasted one season.
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Our protagonist's name is Ponyboy; around fifty years later in 2010, we see ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' and its well-known fanbase with adult men and teenage boys. boys.
** In the movie version when Cherry makes her joke about not wanting to see Dally again in case she [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys falls in love with him]]. Diane Lane and Matt Dillon played love interests in two subsequent movies.



* RetroactiveRecognition: The film is noted for how many of the actors went onto become noted stars - Creator/MattDillon, Creator/PatrickSwayze, Creator/RobLowe, Creator/DianeLane, Creator/EmilioEstevez, hell it can be jarring to see Creator/TomCruise in a small role.
** A young Creator/SofiaCoppola cameos as a girl asking Dally if he has a dollar.

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* PeripheryDemographic: Despite being male focused and Cherry as the only prominent female in the story (and even she's in a supporting role), ''The Outsiders'' has a significant following of teenage girls and young women.
* RetroactiveRecognition: The film is noted for how many of the actors went onto become noted stars - Creator/MattDillon, Creator/PatrickSwayze, Creator/RobLowe, Creator/DianeLane, Creator/EmilioEstevez, hell it can be jarring to see Creator/TomCruise in a small role.
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role. A young Creator/SofiaCoppola also cameos as a girl asking Dally if he has a dollar.



* ValuesResonance:
** The story's honest look at young people from troubled or working class homes, and the discrimination they can face remains extremely relevant today. As noted above, the film was notable for its unique look at teenagers, and its formula has continued to be used over the years.
** Though pop culture has made fun of all the HoYay, the book and film show such displays of affection and love between males as valid. Sensitivity is not demonized at all, and most of the toxic masculinity is displayed by the Socs (but of course there is some DeliberateValuesDissonance since it is set in the 60s).
** The story also subverts AllAbusersAreMale, portraying Johnny's mother as abusive, and not excusing that abuse because of her gender.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: [[spoiler:Johnny dying]] to save children in a burning building. Not symbolic? [[spoiler:Look again at his initials.]] In a church no less.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: [[spoiler:Johnny dying]] to save children in a burning building. Not symbolic? [[spoiler:Look again at his initials.]] In a church no less.

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***[[spoiler: [[https://twitter.com/se4realhinton/status/793898142026440704 As she stated on Twitter]], Hinton didn't exactly claim that he died in war. This was only said by Hinton to Rob Lowe in order to help him with his interpretation of Sodapop for the 1983 film adaptation, and she's clarified that it isn't canon.]]



* MisaimedFandom: Since the novel and movie are basically a gang of TroubledButCute teenage pretty boys, who all have strong emotional relationships with each other, readers have gone crazy with the HoYay and belief most of the characters were gay or at least bisexual. Particularly the relationships between Ponyboy and Johnny, Dallas and Johnny, and Sodapop and Steve. Author S.E. Hinton has pushed back on this and says she wrote none of the characters like that. This has gotten her into a few twitter wars with fans.

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* MisaimedFandom: Since the novel and movie are basically a gang of TroubledButCute teenage pretty boys, who all have strong emotional relationships with each other, readers have gone crazy with the HoYay and belief most of the characters were gay or at least bisexual. Particularly the relationships between Ponyboy and Johnny, Dallas and Johnny, and Sodapop and Steve. Author S.E. Hinton has pushed back on this and says she wrote none of the characters like that. This has gotten her into a few twitter Twitter wars with fans.
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* OneTruePairing: Dallas/Johnny is the most shipped pairing in the fandom, largely due to their close, brotherly bond and Dallas being humbled by Johnny's actions. [[spoiler:The fact that they both die tragically]] doesn't really deter the shippers at all. If anything, they would feel free to explore it [[spoiler: in FixFic or having them TogetherinDeath]].
* RetroactiveRecognition: The film is noted for how many of the actors went onto become noted stars - Matt Dillon, Creator/PatrickSwayze, Creator/RobLowe, Creator/DianeLane, Creator/EmilioEstevez, hell it can be jarring to see Creator/TomCruise in a small role.

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* OneTruePairing: Dallas/Johnny is the most shipped pairing in the fandom, largely due to their close, brotherly bond and Dallas being humbled by Johnny's actions. [[spoiler:The [[spoiler:The fact that they both die tragically]] doesn't really deter the shippers at all. If anything, they would feel free to explore it [[spoiler: in FixFic or having them TogetherinDeath]].
* RetroactiveRecognition: The film is noted for how many of the actors went onto become noted stars - Matt Dillon, Creator/MattDillon, Creator/PatrickSwayze, Creator/RobLowe, Creator/DianeLane, Creator/EmilioEstevez, hell it can be jarring to see Creator/TomCruise in a small role.
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* OneTruePairing: Dallas/Johnny is the most shipped pairing in the fandom, largely due to their close, brotherly bond and Dallas being humbled by Johnny's actions. [[spoiler: The fact that they both die tragically]] doesn't really deter the shippers at all. If anything, they would feel free to explore it [[spoiler: in FixFic or having them be TogetherinDeath]].

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* OneTruePairing: Dallas/Johnny is the most shipped pairing in the fandom, largely due to their close, brotherly bond and Dallas being humbled by Johnny's actions. [[spoiler: The  [[spoiler:The fact that they both die tragically]] doesn't tragically]] doesn't really deter the shippers at all. If anything, they would feel free to explore it [[spoiler: in FixFic or [[spoiler: in FixFic or having them be TogetherinDeath]].TogetherinDeath]].

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** Most fanfiction ships [[BoysLove Dallas/Johnny]], rather than the teased Ponyboy/Cherry. Don't mention it around S.E. Hinton, though.

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** Most fanfiction ships [[BoysLove Dallas/Johnny]], Ponyboy/Johnny]], rather than the teased Ponyboy/Cherry. Don't mention it around S.E. Hinton, though.


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* OneTruePairing: Dallas/Johnny is the most shipped pairing in the fandom, largely due to their close, brotherly bond and Dallas being humbled by Johnny's actions. [[spoiler: The fact that they both die tragically]] doesn't really deter the shippers at all. If anything, they would feel free to explore it [[spoiler: in FixFic or having them be TogetherinDeath]].
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** Most fanfiction ships [[BoysLove Ponyboy/Johnny]], rather than the teased Ponyboy/Cherry. Don't mention it around S.E. Hinton, though.

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** Most fanfiction ships [[BoysLove Ponyboy/Johnny]], Dallas/Johnny]], rather than the teased Ponyboy/Cherry. Don't mention it around S.E. Hinton, though.
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* FanPreferredCouple:
** Most fanfiction ships [[BoysLove Ponyboy/Johnny]], rather than the teased Ponyboy/Cherry. Don't mention it around S.E. Hinton, though.
** Similarly, Sodapop/Steve is the preferred Sodapop ship, over Sodapop/Sandy.

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** Two-Bit is also quite well-liked for being {{Adorkable}} and somewhat of a NiceGuy. Especially the movie version, which gives the character trait of [[PeripheryDemographic being a grown-up fan of cartoons]], specifically WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse, which [[ValuesResonance some parts of the fanbase can relate to]].

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** Two-Bit is also quite well-liked for being {{Adorkable}} and somewhat of a NiceGuy. Especially the movie version, which gives him the character trait of [[PeripheryDemographic being a grown-up fan of cartoons]], specifically WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse, which [[ValuesResonance some parts of the fanbase can relate to]].to]].
* FirstInstallmentWins: ''The Outsiders'' was the first book Hinton has ever written, she ended up writing multiple other books, too, some set in [[SharedUniverse the same universe]]. Regardless, it was this one that remained the most popular and well-known.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Sodapop doesn't play that big of a role in the novel's plot, but is very well-liked for being a CoolBigBro and a bit of a [[TheWoobie Woobie]]. Some people [[DeathOfTheAuthor outright ignore Hinton's claim]] that [[spoiler:he has fallen in war]], thinking that he didn't deserve an ending like that.
** Two-Bit is also quite well-liked for being {{Adorkable}} and somewhat of a NiceGuy. Especially the movie version, which gives the character trait of [[PeripheryDemographic being a grown-up fan of cartoons]], specifically WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse, which [[ValuesResonance some parts of the fanbase can relate to]].
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* MisaimedFandom: Since the novel and movie are basically a gang of TroubledButCute teenage pretty boys, who all have strong emotional reaionashops with each other, readers have gone crazy with the HoYay and belief most of the characters were gay or at least bisexual. Particularly the relationships between Ponyboy and Johnny, Dallas and Johnny, and Sodapop and Steve. Author S.E. Hinton has pushed back on this and says she wrote none of the characters like that. This has gotten her into a few twitter wars with fans.

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* MisaimedFandom: Since the novel and movie are basically a gang of TroubledButCute teenage pretty boys, who all have strong emotional reaionashops relationships with each other, readers have gone crazy with the HoYay and belief most of the characters were gay or at least bisexual. Particularly the relationships between Ponyboy and Johnny, Dallas and Johnny, and Sodapop and Steve. Author S.E. Hinton has pushed back on this and says she wrote none of the characters like that. This has gotten her into a few twitter wars with fans.

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