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* ProtectionFromEditors: Kricfalusi was given carte blanche from Spike TV when producing this series, with the provision that it had more adult content than the original series. He proceeded to create an overly vulgar, poorly executed trainwreck.

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* ProtectionFromEditors: Kricfalusi was given carte blanche from Spike TV when producing this series, with the provision that it had more adult content than the original series. He proceeded to create an overly vulgar, poorly executed trainwreck.trainwreck that only lasted six episodes, and proved conclusively that Kricfalusi needed people around him to tell him "no".
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* ProtectionFromEditors: Kricfalusi was given carte blanche from Spike TV when producing this series, with the provision that it had more adult content than the original series. He proceeded to create an overly vulgar, poorly executed trainwreck.
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** Creator/RalphBakshi waking up [[labelnote:Explanation]] In "Fire Dogs II", a caricature of Ralph Bakshi is shown sleeping peacefully in a bed with Ren and Stimpy, until he suddenly wakes up, stands there with a ThousandYardStare for six seconds while drawn in a [[ArtShift much more realistic art style]], then suffers an AbsurdPhobia-induced freak-out before attacking the duo with an axe. The scene -- especially the frame with Bakshi's blank stare -- became popular as a reaction meme for a variety of OhCrap moments. In addition, said frame has been used for memes where the poster watches some predicted disaster or catastrophe unfold on the television, as Bakshi's expression can be interpreted as one of utter despair.[[/labelnote]]

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** Creator/RalphBakshi waking up [[labelnote:Explanation]] In "Fire Dogs II", a caricature of Ralph Bakshi is shown sleeping peacefully in a bed with Ren and Stimpy, until he suddenly wakes up, stands sits there with a ThousandYardStare for six seconds while drawn in a [[ArtShift much more realistic art style]], then suffers an AbsurdPhobia-induced freak-out before attacking the duo with an axe. The scene -- especially the frame with Bakshi's blank stare -- became popular as a reaction meme for a variety of OhCrap moments. In addition, said frame has been used for memes where the poster watches some predicted disaster or catastrophe unfold on the television, as Bakshi's expression can be interpreted as one of utter despair.[[/labelnote]]
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Neither fans or haters of the Games Animation episodes (the latter already viewing them as an example of this trope) want anything to do with this show.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: Neither fans or haters of the Games Animation episodes (the latter already viewing them as an example of this trope) want anything to do with this show. [[CanonDiscontinuity Even Nickelodeon seems to agree]], with the only thing from this show making it to any of the Nicktoons crossovers being the flute dance from "Fire Dogs II."
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Fans of the ''Ren and Stimpy Show'', old and new, universally agreed that reviving a show already known for its over-the-top vulgarity and melodrama and making it ''even more'' vulgar and melodramatic wasn't a good idea. The drama becomes [[{{Narm}} too ludicrous]], if not [[{{Glurge}} insincere]], the [[TooBleakStoppedCaring depravity]] and [[{{Squick}} overall]] [[NauseaFuel grossness]] is downright unpleasant and the result is that hardly any of the jokes are funny. It's no wonder the show was a flop.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Fans of the ''Ren and ''The Ren & Stimpy Show'', old and new, universally agreed that reviving a show already known for its over-the-top vulgarity and melodrama and making it ''even more'' vulgar and melodramatic wasn't a good idea. The drama becomes [[{{Narm}} too ludicrous]], if not [[{{Glurge}} insincere]], the [[TooBleakStoppedCaring depravity]] and [[{{Squick}} overall]] [[NauseaFuel grossness]] is downright unpleasant and the result is that hardly any of the jokes are funny. It's no wonder the show was a flop.



* FetishRetardant: The downright overbearing amount of hypersexual {{fanservice}}, combined with John K.'s art style, in "Naked Beach Frenzy" has been known to be a huge turn ''off'' for viewers. Knowledge of his history of statutory rape makes it downright unwatchable, especially the scene of Ren fondling an InkSuitActor of one of his actual victims.
* HarsherInHindsight: As with nearly all of his work, knowledge of [[https://www.buzzfeed.com/arianelange/john-kricfalusi-ren-stimpy-underage-sexual-abuse?utm_term=.dvZvXMkKv#.xd1QbAqkQ John K.'s extensive history of statutory rape]] makes watching the show much, much more difficult.

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* FetishRetardant: The downright overbearing amount of hypersexual {{fanservice}}, combined with John K.'s Kricfalusi's art style, in "Naked Beach Frenzy" has been known to be a huge turn ''off'' for viewers. Knowledge of his history of statutory rape makes it downright unwatchable, especially the scene of Ren (voiced by Kricfalusi, no less) fondling an InkSuitActor of one of his actual victims.
* HarsherInHindsight: As with nearly all of his work, knowledge of [[https://www.buzzfeed.com/arianelange/john-kricfalusi-ren-stimpy-underage-sexual-abuse?utm_term=.dvZvXMkKv#.xd1QbAqkQ John K.'s Kricfalusi's extensive history of statutory rape]] makes watching the show much, much more difficult.



** The entire DVD introduction with John K. and Katie Rice to "Naked Beach Frenzy"[[note]]For many years, it circulated Website/YouTube under the name "John K. Being John K."[[/note]], which features a visibly uncomfortable Katie Rice standing right next to John K. while he's casually making sexist and pedophiliac remarks towards her, was incredibly awkward and creepy to watch when it first came out. After the allegations came out, it became ''horrifying.'' The ''Naked Beach Frenzy'' episode itself is extra disturbing given its rampant hypersexuality, Ren's inappropriate behavior, and the fact that the then-teenaged Rice voiced a self-caricature whom Ren (voiced by John K.) shamelessly fondles.
** The gags in "Altruists" involving the mother getting fondled in the end, along with the gag involving [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext a living duckbill getting oral sex forced on her]] (and is seen later crying to her dad about this) become horrifying to watch in light of John K.'s sexual abuse too.
** The premise of "Ren Seeks Help" (Ren does something so horribly abusive to Stimpy that he seeks out a therapist and recalls his violent childhood memories) feels more of an on-camera confession of John K.'s unchecked mental illnesses, violent streak, and issues with his father.
** While "Stimpy's Pregnant" is widely agreed to be the grossest episode of any incarnation of ''Ren and Stimpy'', it becomes downright nauseating when you learn that John K. actually got Robyn Bird, one of his statutory rape victims, pregnant (she aborted the pregnancy on her own accord, making Ren's coat hanger abortion joke at the beginning compleletely tasteless). Note that John K. did allegedly [[https://twitter.com/TopographicFish/status/980849307652894721 try to pitch]] ''Adult Party Cartoon'' ideas to Byrd based on his relationship with her, and had pitched her the concept of "Stimpy's Pregnant" before.
*** The scene of Ren bragging to his mother on the phone about how he impregnated Stimpy feels a hundred times grosser when you learn that Creator/JohnKricfalusi was not only committing multiple acts of statutory rape at the time the episode was in production, but had no qualms bragging about it to his colleagues, up to and including showing them non-consensual photos he took of himself having sex with girls who were too young to consent in the first place.

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** The entire DVD introduction with John K. Kricfalusi and Katie Rice to "Naked Beach Frenzy"[[note]]For many years, it circulated Website/YouTube under the name "John K. Being John K."[[/note]], which features a visibly uncomfortable Katie Rice standing right next to John K. Kricfalusi while he's casually making sexist and pedophiliac remarks towards her, was incredibly awkward and creepy to watch when it first came out. After the allegations came out, it became ''horrifying.'' The ''Naked Beach Frenzy'' episode itself is extra disturbing given its rampant hypersexuality, Ren's inappropriate behavior, and the fact that the then-teenaged Rice voiced a self-caricature whom Ren (voiced by John K.) Kricfalusi) shamelessly fondles.
** The gags in "Altruists" involving the mother getting fondled in the end, along with the gag involving [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext a living duckbill getting oral sex forced on her]] (and is seen later crying to her dad about this) become horrifying to watch in light of John K.'s Kricfalusi's sexual abuse too.
** The premise of "Ren Seeks Help" (Ren does something so horribly abusive to Stimpy that he seeks out a therapist and recalls his violent childhood memories) feels more of an on-camera confession of John K.'s Kricfalusi's unchecked mental illnesses, violent streak, and issues with his father.
** While "Stimpy's Pregnant" is widely agreed to be the grossest episode of any incarnation of ''Ren and Stimpy'', it becomes downright nauseating when you learn that John K. Kricfalusi actually got Robyn Bird, Byrd, one of his statutory rape victims, pregnant (she aborted the pregnancy on her own accord, making Ren's coat hanger abortion joke at the beginning compleletely completely tasteless). Note that John K. Kricfalusi did allegedly [[https://twitter.com/TopographicFish/status/980849307652894721 try to pitch]] ''Adult Party Cartoon'' ideas to Byrd based on his relationship with her, and had pitched her the concept of "Stimpy's Pregnant" before.
*** The scene of Ren bragging to his mother on the phone about how he impregnated Stimpy feels a hundred times grosser when you learn that Creator/JohnKricfalusi Kricfalusi was not only committing multiple acts of statutory rape at the time the episode was in production, but had no qualms bragging about it to his colleagues, up to and including showing them non-consensual photos he took of himself having sex with girls who were too young to consent in the first place.



* MisBlamed: The Spike TV executives, according to the book ''Literature/SickLittleMonkeys''. While they did want a more adult show, they actually tried to talk John K. out of doing the most offensive parts, like the implied sex in "Onward and Upward".

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* MisBlamed: The Spike TV executives, according to the book ''Literature/SickLittleMonkeys''. While they did want a more adult show, they actually tried to talk John K. Kricfalusi out of doing the most offensive parts, like the implied sex in "Onward and Upward".



* SeasonalRot: Due to a combination of ExecutiveMeddling and Creator/JohnKricfalusi receiving greater freedom in writing (there are conflicting reports on just what went on behind the scenes between creator and network), the show became far too gross and vulgar for its own good and began indulging in over-the-top violence and ToiletHumour well beyond that of the original series. It also saw the {{Flanderization}} of its main characters, particularly Ren, who became abusive and psychopathic compared to his previous hot-tempered character in the original series. These factors led to the show's cancellation after only three episodes were aired, although all six produced episodes later showed up on the ''Ren & Stimpy: The Lost Episodes DVD''.

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* SeasonalRot: Due to a combination of ExecutiveMeddling and Creator/JohnKricfalusi Kricfalusi receiving greater freedom in writing (there are conflicting reports on just what went on behind the scenes between creator and network), the show became far too gross and vulgar for its own good and began indulging in over-the-top violence and ToiletHumour well beyond that of the original series. It also saw the {{Flanderization}} of its main characters, particularly Ren, who became abusive and psychopathic compared to his previous hot-tempered character in the original series. These factors led to the show's cancellation after only three episodes were aired, although all six produced episodes later showed up on the ''Ren & Stimpy: The Lost Episodes DVD''.



* ShockFatigue: This show flatlined almost entirely because of this. The majority of the jokes try to be as outrageous, disgusting, and without restraint as possible, in addition to drawing themselves out longer than they need to. Tellingly the majority of episodes were recycled from the cutting room floor, episodes John K. had planned for ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'' that were rejected. Among the notable examples is "Fire Dogs 2", which John admits suffers from very bad timing and pacing, suggesting the episode should be watched at fast forward.

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* ShockFatigue: This show flatlined almost entirely because of this. The majority of the jokes try to be as outrageous, disgusting, and without restraint as possible, in addition to drawing themselves out longer than they need to. Tellingly the majority of episodes were recycled from the cutting room floor, episodes John K. Kricfalusi had planned for ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'' that were rejected. Among the notable examples is "Fire Dogs 2", which John Kricfalusi admits suffers from very bad timing and pacing, suggesting the episode should be watched at fast forward.



* TooBleakStoppedCaring: John K. has often expressed his disdain for "fake pathos" (i.e., the idea that it doesn't take that much from the writer to get an audience to cry). However, the original show still undercut its ComedicSociopathy with moments of perceived sentimentality, despite [[RealMenHateAffection John K. being the person he is]]. Meanwhile, a major complaint of this show is that it was just nonstop, meaningless cruelty, vulgarity and [[SadistShow sadism]] with ''no pathos at all'' to balance it out. Older fans slowly came around to the more inoffensive Games Animation episodes as a result, with the belief that a [[LighterAndSofter sterilized]] ''Ren and Stimpy'' is more tolerable than a [[DarkerAndEdgier downright nihilistic]] one and that John K. needed the Nick executives far more than they needed him.

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: John K. Kricfalusi has often expressed his disdain for "fake pathos" (i.e., the idea that it doesn't take that much from the writer to get an audience to cry). However, the original show still undercut its ComedicSociopathy with moments of perceived sentimentality, despite [[RealMenHateAffection John K. Kricfalusi being the person he is]]. Meanwhile, a major complaint of this show is that it was just nonstop, meaningless cruelty, vulgarity and [[SadistShow sadism]] with ''no pathos at all'' to balance it out. Older fans slowly came around to the more inoffensive Games Animation episodes as a result, with the belief that a [[LighterAndSofter sterilized]] ''Ren and Stimpy'' is more tolerable than a [[DarkerAndEdgier downright nihilistic]] one and that John K. Kricfalusi needed the Nick executives far more than they needed him.
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* {{Padding}}: One of the biggest problems with the show is that it drags, five of the six episodes were planned for the original show which episodes were usually 11 minutes long but reworked to be about twice as long and you can tell. The only episode made from scratch for the show was "The Altruists," which is '''''40 minutes long.'''''

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* {{Padding}}: One of the biggest problems with the show is that it drags, drags; five of the six episodes were planned for the original show which (whose episodes were usually 11 minutes long long) but reworked to be about twice as long and you can tell. The only episode made from scratch for the show was "The Altruists," which is '''''40 minutes long.'''''



* {{Sequelitis}}: The original show was pretty great Nicktoon. This? Not so much. It had so much adult humor and so many less funny jokes that it was disliked by most who enjoyed the original series.
* ShockFatigue: This show flatlined almost entirely because of this. The majority of the jokes try to be as outrageous, disgusting, and without restraint as possible, in addition to drawing themselves out longer than they need to. Tellingly the majority of episodes were recycled from the cutting room floor, episodes John K had planned for ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'' that were rejected. Among the notable examples is "Fire Dogs 2" which John admits suffers from very bad timing and pacing, suggesting the episode should be watched at double the speed.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: The original show was pretty great Nicktoon.seen as one of the greatest Nicktoons ever made. This? Not so much. It had so much adult humor and so many less funny unfunny jokes that it was disliked by most who enjoyed the original series.
* ShockFatigue: This show flatlined almost entirely because of this. The majority of the jokes try to be as outrageous, disgusting, and without restraint as possible, in addition to drawing themselves out longer than they need to. Tellingly the majority of episodes were recycled from the cutting room floor, episodes John K K. had planned for ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'' that were rejected. Among the notable examples is "Fire Dogs 2" 2", which John admits suffers from very bad timing and pacing, suggesting the episode should be watched at double the speed.fast forward.



* TooBleakStoppedCaring: John K. has often expressed his disdain for "fake pathos" (i.e., the idea that it doesn't take that much from the writer to get an audience to cry). However, the original show still undercut its ComedicSociopathy with moments of perceived sentimentality, despite [[RealMenHateAffection John K. being the person he is]]. Meanwhile, a major complaint of this show is that it was just nonstop, meaningless cruelty, vulgarity and [[SadistShow sadism]] with ''no pathos at all'' to balance it out. Older fans slowly came around to the more inoffensive Games Animation episodes as a result, with the belief that a LighterAndSofter ''Ren and Stimpy'' is more tolerable than a downright nihilistic one and that John K. needed the Nick executives far more than they needed him.

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: John K. has often expressed his disdain for "fake pathos" (i.e., the idea that it doesn't take that much from the writer to get an audience to cry). However, the original show still undercut its ComedicSociopathy with moments of perceived sentimentality, despite [[RealMenHateAffection John K. being the person he is]]. Meanwhile, a major complaint of this show is that it was just nonstop, meaningless cruelty, vulgarity and [[SadistShow sadism]] with ''no pathos at all'' to balance it out. Older fans slowly came around to the more inoffensive Games Animation episodes as a result, with the belief that a LighterAndSofter [[LighterAndSofter sterilized]] ''Ren and Stimpy'' is more tolerable than a [[DarkerAndEdgier downright nihilistic nihilistic]] one and that John K. needed the Nick executives far more than they needed him.
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* SignatureScene: Thanks to it being their taunt in ''VideoGame/NickelodeonAllStarBrawl'', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOfwSqC1KrA the Flute Dance]] has become one of the most well remembered parts of the show.

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* SignatureScene: Thanks to it being their taunt in ''VideoGame/NickelodeonAllStarBrawl'', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOfwSqC1KrA the Flute Dance]] has become one of the most well remembered parts of the show. It's definitely not uncommon for people to say it's the best thing out of the series, if not the ''only'' thing worthwhile.

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