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* PolishedPort: The PC version, released in April 2013, was a huge improvement over the original. It had practically every audio/video option you could want out of a PC game, as well as sharpened graphics, the ironing out of many [[GameBreakingBug Game Breaking Bugs]] (some were left in, but they bordered on UnwinnableByInsanity), a silky-smooth framerate and excellent keyboard & mouse controls as well as supporting an Xbox 360 gamepad.
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* PolishedPort: The PC version, released in April 2013, was a huge improvement over the original. It had practically every audio/video option you could want out of a PC game, as well as sharpened graphics, the ironing out of many [[GameBreakingBug Game Breaking Bugs]] (some were left in, but they bordered on UnwinnableByInsanity), UnintentionallyUnwinnable), a silky-smooth framerate and excellent keyboard & mouse controls as well as supporting an Xbox 360 gamepad.
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* TearJerker: Arguably the entire game considering the fact it’s [[spoiler: about the creators real alcholic abusive father.]]
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* TearJerker: Arguably the entire game considering the fact it’s [[spoiler: about the creators creator's real alcholic alcoholic abusive father.]]]]
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: While it's true that it can be impossible to help reform [[spoiler: an alcoholic or abusive parent]], stating that there is no cure and showing Quico [[spoiler: dumping Monster into the water]] is definitely a ''bleak'' message to send.
-->'''Caballero''': I heard these beautiful words from [my] therapist: "When someone wants to hit bottom, there's nothing you can do to stop them." When someone is self-destructive or destructive of others and you want to stop them, there's nothing you can do. They're looking for something there. They're getting something out of that destruction, and if you stay with them, you're gonna get destroyed. So the only thing you can do is let them go, and it is the most painful thing you can do in your life.
-->'''Caballero''': I heard these beautiful words from [my] therapist: "When someone wants to hit bottom, there's nothing you can do to stop them." When someone is self-destructive or destructive of others and you want to stop them, there's nothing you can do. They're looking for something there. They're getting something out of that destruction, and if you stay with them, you're gonna get destroyed. So the only thing you can do is let them go, and it is the most painful thing you can do in your life.
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* PolishedPort: The PC version, released in April 2013, was a huge improvement over the original. It had practically every audio/video option you could want out of a PC game, as well as sharpened graphics, the ironing out of many [[GameBreakingBug Game Breaking Bugs]] (some were left in, but they bordered on UnwinnableByInsanity), a silky-smooth framerate and excellent keyboard & mouse controls as well as supporting an Xbox 360 gamepad.
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* PolishedPort: The PC version, released in April 2013, was a huge improvement over the original. It had practically every audio/video option you could want out of a PC game, as well as sharpened graphics, the ironing out of many [[GameBreakingBug Game Breaking Bugs]] (some were left in, but they bordered on UnwinnableByInsanity), a silky-smooth framerate and excellent keyboard & mouse controls as well as supporting an Xbox 360 gamepad.gamepad.
* TearJerker: Arguably the entire game considering the fact it’s [[spoiler: about the creators real alcholic abusive father.]]
* TearJerker: Arguably the entire game considering the fact it’s [[spoiler: about the creators real alcholic abusive father.]]
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** The implication seems to be that [[spoiler: the girl was Quico's sister in reality, and was likely either killed by their father's abuse, or at least taken away, depending on [[SocialServicesDoesNotExist whether Child Services exists]] InUniverse]].
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** The implication seems to be that [[spoiler: the girl was Quico's sister in reality, and was likely either killed by their father's abuse, or at least taken away, depending on [[SocialServicesDoesNotExist whether Child Services exists]] InUniverse]].InUniverse]], and the only reason that Quico needs to repeat the process is to hammer the point home.
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* FridgeBrilliance: At first, it's funny to see Quico getting rid of frogs by splatting them against the wall - but when TheReveal hits that [[spoiler: those frogs represent bottles of liquor]], why this works becomes crystal clear.
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: While it's true that it can be impossible to help reform an alcoholic or abusive parent, stating that there is no cure and showing Quico [[spoiler: dumping Monster into the water]] is definitely a ''bleak'' message to send.
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: While it's true that it can be impossible to help reform [[spoiler: an alcoholic or abusive parent, parent]], stating that there is no cure and showing Quico [[spoiler: dumping Monster into the water]] is definitely a ''bleak'' message to send.
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** The implication seems to be that [[spoiler: the girl was Quico's sister in reality, and was likely either killed by their father's abuse, or at least taken away, depending on [[NoChildServices whether Child Services exists]] InUniverse]].
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** The implication seems to be that [[spoiler: the girl was Quico's sister in reality, and was likely either killed by their father's abuse, or at least taken away, depending on [[NoChildServices [[SocialServicesDoesNotExist whether Child Services exists]] InUniverse]].
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* FridgeHorror: When an enraged Monster catches you, he throws you around, but you recover. However, when he catches Alejandra, [[spoiler: Monster turns his back to you and then she's gone *forever.*]] Then on the final level, there are actually [[spoiler: at least a dozen Alejandras that he can consume, unless you engineer an escape for them.]] What did he do to all these girls?
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* FridgeHorror: When an enraged Monster catches you, he throws you around, but you recover. However, when he catches Alejandra, [[spoiler: Monster turns his back to you and then she's gone *forever.*]] ''forever.'']] Then on the final level, there are actually [[spoiler: at least a dozen Alejandras that he can consume, unless you engineer an escape for them.]] What did he do to all these girls?girls?
** The implication seems to be that [[spoiler: the girl was Quico's sister in reality, and was likely either killed by their father's abuse, or at least taken away, depending on [[NoChildServices whether Child Services exists]] InUniverse]].
** The implication seems to be that [[spoiler: the girl was Quico's sister in reality, and was likely either killed by their father's abuse, or at least taken away, depending on [[NoChildServices whether Child Services exists]] InUniverse]].
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-->'''Caballero''': I heard these beautiful words from [my] therapist: "When someone wants to hit bottom, there's nothing you can do to stop them.' When someone is self-destructive or destructive of others and you want to stop them, there's nothing you can do. They're looking for something there. They're getting something out of that destruction, and if you stay with them, you're gonna get destroyed. So the only thing you can do is let them go, and it is the most painful thing you can do in your life."
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-->'''Caballero''': I heard these beautiful words from [my] therapist: "When someone wants to hit bottom, there's nothing you can do to stop them.' " When someone is self-destructive or destructive of others and you want to stop them, there's nothing you can do. They're looking for something there. They're getting something out of that destruction, and if you stay with them, you're gonna get destroyed. So the only thing you can do is let them go, and it is the most painful thing you can do in your life."
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-->'''Caballero''': I heard these beautiful words from [my] therapist: "When someone wants to hit bottom, there's nothing you can do to stop them.' When someone is self-destructive or destructive of others and you want to stop them, there's nothing you can do. They're looking for something there. They're getting something out of that destruction, and if you stay with them, you're gonna get destroyed. So the only thing you can do is let them go, and it is the most painful thing you can do in your life."
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: While it's true that it can be impossible to help reform an alcoholic or abusive parent, stating that there is no cure and showing Quico [[spoiler: dumping Monster into the water]] doesn't exactly send a great message either.
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: While it's true that it can be impossible to help reform an alcoholic or abusive parent, stating that there is no cure and showing Quico [[spoiler: dumping Monster into the water]] doesn't exactly send is definitely a great ''bleak'' message either.to send.
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* BrokenAesop: While it's true that it can be impossible to help reform an alcoholic or abusive parent, stating that there is no cure and showing Quico [[spoiler: dumping Monster into the water]] doesn't exactly send a great message either.
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* BrokenAesop: FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: While it's true that it can be impossible to help reform an alcoholic or abusive parent, stating that there is no cure and showing Quico [[spoiler: dumping Monster into the water]] doesn't exactly send a great message either.
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* BrokenAesop: While it's true that it can be impossible to help reform an alcoholic or abusive parent, stating that there is no cure and showing Quico [[spoiler: dumping Monster into the water]] doesn't exactly send a great message either.
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* FridgeHorror: When an enraged Monster catches you, he throws you around, but you recover. However, when he catches Alejandra, [[spoiler: Monster turns his back to you and then she's gone *forever.*]] Then on the final level, there are actually [[spoiler: at least a dozen Alejandras that he can consume, unless you engineer an escape for them.]] What did he do to all these girls?
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{{Anvilicious}}: Typically the major criticism of the game's plot: between the opening dedication, Quico's flashbacks, the statues, and the entire "final boss" fight, it's more than obvious what Monster is supposed to represent. That said, [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/report/article/saving-the-monster-what-the-ending-of-papo-of-yo-can-teach-us-about-abuse-s this may have been intentional on the creator's part:]]
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Typically the major criticism of the game's plot: between the opening dedication, Quico's flashbacks, the statues, and the entire "final boss" fight, it's more than obvious what Monster is supposed to represent. That said, [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/report/article/saving-the-monster-what-the-ending-of-papo-of-yo-can-teach-us-about-abuse-s this may have been intentional on the creator's part:]]
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* PolishedPort: The PC version, released in April 2013, was a huge improvement over the original. It had practically every audio/video option you could want out of a PC game, as well as sharpened graphics, the ironing out of many GameBreakingBugs, a silky-smooth framerate and excellent keyboard & mouse controls as well as an Xbox 360 gamepad.
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* PolishedPort: The PC version, released in April 2013, was a huge improvement over the original. It had practically every audio/video option you could want out of a PC game, as well as sharpened graphics, the ironing out of many GameBreakingBugs, [[GameBreakingBug Game Breaking Bugs]] (some were left in, but they bordered on UnwinnableByInsanity), a silky-smooth framerate and excellent keyboard & mouse controls as well as supporting an Xbox 360 gamepad.
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-->"Why did we need to see [[spoiler: whiskey bottles turned into frogs]]? Wasn't it obvious that's what was going on? Caballero pointed out Papo & Yo takes place in the mind of a child, and a child who is the victim of abuse rarely sees his abuser's actions as such. They can't see the truth. Sometimes things need to be shown explicitly before healing can begin.
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-->"Why did we need to see [[spoiler: whiskey bottles turned into frogs]]? Wasn't it obvious that's what was going on? Caballero pointed out Papo & Yo takes place in the mind of a child, and a child who is the victim of abuse rarely sees his abuser's actions as such. They can't see the truth. Sometimes things need to be shown explicitly before healing can begin.begin.
* PolishedPort: The PC version, released in April 2013, was a huge improvement over the original. It had practically every audio/video option you could want out of a PC game, as well as sharpened graphics, the ironing out of many GameBreakingBugs, a silky-smooth framerate and excellent keyboard & mouse controls as well as an Xbox 360 gamepad.
* PolishedPort: The PC version, released in April 2013, was a huge improvement over the original. It had practically every audio/video option you could want out of a PC game, as well as sharpened graphics, the ironing out of many GameBreakingBugs, a silky-smooth framerate and excellent keyboard & mouse controls as well as an Xbox 360 gamepad.
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{{Anvilicious}}: Typically the major criticism of the game's plot, between the opening dedication, Quico's flashbacks, the statues, and the entire "final boss" fight, it's more than obvious what Monster is supposed to represent. That said, [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/report/article/saving-the-monster-what-the-ending-of-papo-of-yo-can-teach-us-about-abuse-s this may have been intentional on the creator's part:]]
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{{Anvilicious}}: Typically the major criticism of the game's plot, plot: between the opening dedication, Quico's flashbacks, the statues, and the entire "final boss" fight, it's more than obvious what Monster is supposed to represent. That said, [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/report/article/saving-the-monster-what-the-ending-of-papo-of-yo-can-teach-us-about-abuse-s this may have been intentional on the creator's part:]]
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-->"Why did we need to see [[spoiler: whiskey bottles turned into frogs?]]Wasn't it obvious that's what was going on? Caballero pointed out Papo & Yo takes place in the mind of a child, and a child who is the victim of abuse rarely sees his abuser's actions as such. They can't see the truth. Sometimes things need to be shown explicitly before healing can begin.
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-->"Why did we need to see [[spoiler: whiskey bottles turned into frogs?]]Wasn't frogs]]? Wasn't it obvious that's what was going on? Caballero pointed out Papo & Yo takes place in the mind of a child, and a child who is the victim of abuse rarely sees his abuser's actions as such. They can't see the truth. Sometimes things need to be shown explicitly before healing can begin.
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-->"Why did we need to see [[spoilers: whiskey bottles turned into frogs? ]]Wasn't it obvious that's what was going on? Caballero pointed out Papo & Yo takes place in the mind of a child, and a child who is the victim of abuse rarely sees his abuser's actions as such. They can't see the truth. Sometimes things need to be shown explicitly before healing can begin.
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-->"Why did we need to see [[spoilers: [[spoiler: whiskey bottles turned into frogs? ]]Wasn't frogs?]]Wasn't it obvious that's what was going on? Caballero pointed out Papo & Yo takes place in the mind of a child, and a child who is the victim of abuse rarely sees his abuser's actions as such. They can't see the truth. Sometimes things need to be shown explicitly before healing can begin.
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{{Anvilicious}}: Typically the major criticism of the game's plot, between the opening dedication, Quico's flashbacks, the statues, and the entire "final boss" fight, it's more than obvious what Monster is supposed to represent. That said, [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/report/article/saving-the-monster-what-the-ending-of-papo-of-yo-can-teach-us-about-abuse-s this may have been intentional on the creator's part:]]
-->"Why did we need to see [[spoilers: whiskey bottles turned into frogs? ]]Wasn't it obvious that's what was going on? Caballero pointed out Papo & Yo takes place in the mind of a child, and a child who is the victim of abuse rarely sees his abuser's actions as such. They can't see the truth. Sometimes things need to be shown explicitly before healing can begin.
-->"Why did we need to see [[spoilers: whiskey bottles turned into frogs? ]]Wasn't it obvious that's what was going on? Caballero pointed out Papo & Yo takes place in the mind of a child, and a child who is the victim of abuse rarely sees his abuser's actions as such. They can't see the truth. Sometimes things need to be shown explicitly before healing can begin.