History YMMV / Epic2013

* AwesomeMusic: The trailers for the movie features the appropriately epic tune [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0BDS0-ZwOw "The Lightning Strike (What If The Storm Ends?)'']] by Music/SnowPatrol and the super fun tune [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq8Dgcy4MDY "Shooting Star"]] by Music/OwlCity

** Finn also has a moderately-sized fanbase, despite his minor role.

** Other viewers know that everybody makes mistakes, no matter how big, and see just how remorseful he is in his HeroicBSOD moment. Who wouldn't learn something? Especially when he was right all along, and he wanted to find them to fix his marriage?

** Plus some fans ship Ronin and Professor Bomba (calling them "Forest Dads"), despite a lack of interaction between them. Same goes for Mandrake and Ronin, though they share scenes together.

* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Many viewers consider Professor Bomba to be a terrible parent who place more value on his obsession than on his wife and daughter. Then MK comes to accept that he was right, yet Bomba never learns a moral lesson about his neglectful behavior, making him appear all the more unpleasant.

--> Plus some fans ship Ronin and Professor Bomba (calling them "Forest Dads"), despite a lack of interaction between them. Same goes for Mandrake and Ronin, though they share scenes together.

* ParanoiaFuel: So, there's a race of little people that are experts at hiding. You're a renounced scientist, and you know they're there. But the little folk think you're stupid, and decide to play mind games with you, to the point where you're an obsessed wreck that's lost his job and his marriage chasing after things that they know are real, and you know are real, but they won't let anybody else know are real.

* EvilIsCool: Mandrake.

* SoOkayItsAverage: A criticism. It's a good film in its own right and very beautifully animated. But really doesn't showcase anything very noteworthy that hasn't been seen in other stories that separates it from the pack.

* ProductPlacement: iPhone saves the day.

* FanNickname: Critics who don't like the movie would often call it EpicFail.
* FollowTheLeader:
** It's not hard to see this as a retread of ''[[WesternAnimation/FernGullyTheLastRainforest FernGully]]'' or ''Film/{{Avatar}}''. Although it lacks the "Evils of Man" overtones.
** It also has a lot in common with ''Film/ArthurAndTheInvisibles''.

* MoodWhiplash: MK finds her father when she sneaks back into her home. It's quite a TearJerker, as he's looking at a picture of his family with a completely heartbroken look on his face. And then, he opens his mouth, and in ''slow motion'' says, "I'm sorry, MK..." This launches the scene straight into {{narm}}.

* HellIsThatNoise: Mandrake's cry to summon the Boggans.

* FollowTheLeader: It's not hard to see this as a retread of ''[[WesternAnimation/FernGullyTheLastRainforest FernGully]]'' or ''{{Film/Avatar}}''.
** Although it lacks the "Evils of Man" overtones.

* OneSceneWonder: Pitbull's character, Bufo, only appears in two scenes and was never mentioned or seen again. There ''is'' [[FridgeHorror a bullfrog skeleton]], labeled as ''Bufo Americanus'' in the CreativeClosingCredits. Considering how we left Bufo (having accidentally insulted Mandrake's [[spoiler: recently deceased son]]) ...
* ParanoiaFuel: So, there's a race of little people that are experts at hiding. You're a renouned scientist, and you know they're there. But the little folk think you're stupid, and decide to play mind games with you, to the point where you're an obsessed wreck that's lost his job and his marriage chasing after things that they know are real, and you know are real, but they won't let anybody else know are real.

* [[FanNickname Reviewer Nickname]]: Critics who don't like the movie would often call it EpicFail.
* SoOkayItsAverage: A criticism. It's a good film in it's own right and very beautifully animated. But really doesn't showcase anything very noteworthy that hasn't been seen in other stories that separates it from the pack.

* UglyCute: Ozzy's a pug. It's obligatory.
** Not just a pug but an old, half-blind, three-legged pug.
* WTHCastingAgency: So, there's Colin Farrell, Christoph Waltz, Amanda Seyfried, Josh Hutcherson, and...Pitbull?!

* [[BaseBreaker Base Breakers]]: Mub and Grub are either really funny or really annoying to most people.

* MoodWhiplash: MK finds her father when she sneaks back into her home. It's quite a TearJerker, as he's looking at a picture of his family with a completely heartbroken look on his face. And then, he opens his mouth, and in ''slow motion'' says, "I'm sorry, MK..." This launches the scene straight into narm.

* SoOkayItsAverage: A criticism.

* UnfortunateImplications: [[spoiler: The ending.]] MK's father has no job (and no future, given that his credibility is shot) and is shown to do things like put food next to pesticide and try to make sandwiches with moldy bread. Their house is described by a taxi driver as "termites holding hands." MK is still 17, and yet gives no sign that she is enrolled in high school or college. [[spoiler: However, it's a-okay for the two to make up and live together at the end, with no apparent changes. As long as they can talk with their tiny friends, who needs to pay bills/buy food/get an education? Plus, now everyone will think BOTH of them are crazy, unless they want to reveal the forest people's secret.]]
** There's also the running notion that if the pod opens in moonlight it'll be a new forest queen but if the pod opens in darkness it'll be a dark prince. Not exactly the most balanced gender role logic given the implication if it's male it'll be bad and good if female. This is totally excluding the whole "light decides gender" implication which is a whole other ball of yarn.

* DracoInLeatherPants: Dagda, who has barely been seen in clips and trailers, already has a small female following on Tumblr.

* AwesomeMusic: Snow Patrol's "What If The Storm Ends" in the trailer
** [[NeverTrustATrailer Conspicuously missing from the movie though]].
** Beyonce's [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-Xf91QbTwo "Rise Up"]] that plays over the credits.
** And let's not forget DannyElfman.

* DudeNotFunny: In-universe. MK doesn't like how Nod and [[OutOfCharacterMoment Ronin]] are making fun of stompers, particularly her dad who is sitting beside them and saddened of his daughter's departure. Then, she blatantly points out that she is also a stomper.

* [[FanNickname Reviewer Nickname]]: Critics who don't like the movie would often call it ''Epic fail''.
%%* TheScrappy: Mub

* UglyCute: Ozzie's a pug. It's obligatory.
* UnfortunateImplications: [[spoiler: The ending.]] MK's father has no job (and no future, given that his credibility is shot) and is shown to do things like put food next to pesticide and try to make sandwiches with moldy bread. Their house is described by a taxi driver as "termites holding hands." MK is pretty plainly school or college-age, and yet gives no sign that she is enrolled in either. [[spoiler: However, it's a-okay for the two to make up and live together at the end, with no apparent changes. As long as they can talk with their tiny friends, who needs to pay bills/buy food/get an education? Plus, now everyone will think BOTH of them are crazy, unless they want to reveal the forest people's secret.]]

*** It's only ever Mandrake who refers to it as a "dark prince." It could easily just be him projecting his grief onto the pod, essentially trying to make it a ReplacementGoldfish for his son.
** Well the food thing could be quite easily explained away as them eating whatever the tiny people eat.
* WTHCastingAgency: So, there's Colin Farrell, Christoph Waltz, Amanda Seyfried, Josh Hutcherson, and...Pitbull?!
** Also, Beyonce as the Forest Queen can invoke this. Sure, a talented singer might seem ideal, [[WhatTheHellIsThatAccent until she actually speaks]] and removes all doubt about this trope.
*** Her voice isn't ''that'' weird. She just has a garden-variety Black American accent. Comparatively, Ronin's accent is more out of place, since he's the only character who sounds Irish.

* ClicheStorm: [[http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/Epic-animated-2013 In the words of reviewer Matt Zoller Seitz]]:
-->"There's a protagonist grieving over [[MissingMom her mother's recent death]], and [[GeniusDitz a brilliant but scatterbrained]] [[BumblingDad father who loves his child but isn't the strong parental figure she desperately needs]]. There's a hidden world akin to Alice's Wonderland that the inquisitive heroine explores. There are beleaguered good guys that she joins in a war against bad guys that represent chaos and decay; their leader is a funny despot with a European accent. There's a mythology that will be fulfilled when good guys take a fragile pod on a journey toward a prophesied end. There's a young warrior with whom the heroine forms a flirtatious friendship. There's a tough older warrior who mentors the younger warrior. There are comic sidekicks, and a beautiful forest queen who utters platitudes about the cycles of life [[spoiler:and then dies]]."
** OR Main/{{Troperiffic}}. There is always a second option.

** OR Main/{{Troperriffic}}. There is always a second option.

* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Many viewers consider Professor Bomba to be a terrible parent who place more value on his obsession than on his wife and daughter. The revelation that he was right all along could be viewed as endorsing his neglect too, making some viewers morally uncomfortable.

* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Many viewers consider Professor Bomba to be a terrible parent who place more value on his obsession than on his wife and daughter; the revelation that he was right all along could be interpreted to endorse his neglect too, making him appear all the more unpleasant.

* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Many viewers consider Professor Bomba to be a terrible parent who values his obsession over his wife and daughter; the revelation that he was right all along could be interpreted to endorse his neglect too, making him appear all the more unpleasant.