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* {{Narm}}: The ninja that snaps his own neck is hilarious. Go on, [Watch https://youtube.clm/v?=spbfax8dOTk]

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* {{Narm}}: The ninja that snaps his own neck is hilarious. Go on, [Watch [[Watch https://youtube.clm/v?=spbfax8dOTk]com/v?=spbfax8dOTk]]
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* {{Narm}}: The ninja that snaps his own neck is hilarious. Go on, [Watch https://youtube.clm/v?=spbfax8dOTk]
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Despite the film's critical and commercial failure, two of the three credited screenwriters would later find work in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, with Zak Penn co-writing ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk'' and ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', and Raven Metzner becoming the showrunner for the second season of ''Series/IronFist2017''.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: In the Daredevil film, Elektra was killed by Bullseye. Now, one would believe this is what the spin-off movie would have been about: Elektra would hunt Bullseye down. Combine that with her becoming an assassin solely to have the funds and resources to find, as well as demonstrating more of Bullseye's [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty attraction to her in the first film]] to mess her up and other connections to the first film and you might have had a decent spin-off. Instead, it's a totally different movie, leaving her vengeance plot unresolved.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: In the Daredevil film, Elektra was killed by Bullseye. Now, one would believe this is what the spin-off movie would have been about: Elektra would hunt Bullseye down. Combine that with her becoming an assassin solely to have the funds and resources to find, as well as demonstrating more of Bullseye's [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty attraction to her in the first film]] to mess her up and other connections to the first film and you might have had a decent spin-off. Instead, it's a totally different movie, leaving her vengeance plot unresolved. Likewise, this doubles as a missed opportunity for any more HamAndCheese and LoveToHate from Creator/ColinFarrell.
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Jennifer Garner's bod and her [[GirlOnGirlIsHot making out with]] Typhoid are widely considered the only good parts about this movie.
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* BrokenBase: Her ''ComicBook/MarvelNOW2016'' look, which is based off of her Netflix ''Series/Daredevil2015'' look. There are some who are upset that they dumped her "iconic" look in favor of "[[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU synergy]]" though many see it as a step-up, finally dumping the HighlyVisibleNinja and bathing suit leotard look for something a lot more practical if perhaps boring. Some feel, though, that they could have compromised and given her the uniform she wore at the end of the ''ComicBook/AgentsOfSHIELD'' comic book.

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* BrokenBase: Her ''ComicBook/MarvelNOW2016'' look, which is based off of her Netflix ''Series/Daredevil2015'' look. There are some who are upset that they dumped her "iconic" iconic look in favor of "[[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU synergy]]" synergy]] though many see it as a step-up, finally dumping the HighlyVisibleNinja and bathing suit leotard look for something a lot more practical if perhaps boring. Some feel, though, that they could have compromised and given her the uniform she wore at the end of the ''ComicBook/AgentsOfSHIELD'' comic book.
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa turned in a very subtle and cool performance as Roshi.

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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa turned in a very subtle and cool performance as Roshi.Roshi.
* WTHCostumingDepartment: Elektra's red outfit has been mocked for being a less revealing version of her outfit from ''Daredevil'' while being a bright red in an attempt to be closer to the comics. The end result, as one website put it, is basically a "mom's attempt at looking sexy".
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* BrokenBase: Her ''ComicBook/MarvelNOW2016'' look, which is based off of her Netflix ''Series/Daredevil2015'' look. There are some who are upset that they dumped her "iconic" look in favor of "[[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU synergy]]" though many see it as a step-up, finally dumping the HighlyVisibleNinja and bathing suit leotard look for something a lot more practical and perhaps boring. Some feel, though, that they could have compromised and given her the uniform she wore at the end of the ''ComicBook/AgentsOfSHIELD'' comic book.

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* BrokenBase: Her ''ComicBook/MarvelNOW2016'' look, which is based off of her Netflix ''Series/Daredevil2015'' look. There are some who are upset that they dumped her "iconic" look in favor of "[[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU synergy]]" though many see it as a step-up, finally dumping the HighlyVisibleNinja and bathing suit leotard look for something a lot more practical and if perhaps boring. Some feel, though, that they could have compromised and given her the uniform she wore at the end of the ''ComicBook/AgentsOfSHIELD'' comic book.
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* IronWoobie: Regardless of how you feel about the films she's appeared in, Elektra has not had a good life. She saw her mother murdered when little, grew up with a strict father who put her through rigorous training since childhood, sees her father murdered, mistakenly injures her boyfriend, is humiliated by her father's killer before being killed herself, resurrected by a former sensei only to be kicked out of the school because of her rage issues and became an assassin for hire while still being haunted by her past. And she is never seen reunited with Matt or getting to avenge her father.
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* BrokenBase: Her ''ComicBook/MarvelNOW2016'' look, which is based off of her Netflix ''Series/Daredevil2015'' look. There are some who are upset that they dumped her "iconic" look in favor of "[[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU synergy]]" though many see it as a step up, finally dumping the HighlyVisibleNinja and bathing suit leotard look for something a lot more practical and perhaps boring. Some feel, though, that they could have compromised and given her the uniform she wore at the end of the ''ComicBook/AgentsOfSHIELD'' comic book.
* FanonDiscontinuity: Originally Elektra was just a normal girl who ended up going down a very dark path after the tragedy of losing her father. In the ''Man Without Fear'' miniseries showing how Matt Murdock became Daredevil she's portrayed as having always been a psychopath, hearing voices and intentionally going looking for trouble so she could murder her assailants. In an odd parallel to [[ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} Selina Kyle's]] prostitute past from ''ComicBook/BatmanYearOne'', this is one part of an otherwise well regarded series that a lot of fans would prefer to ignore.

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* BrokenBase: Her ''ComicBook/MarvelNOW2016'' look, which is based off of her Netflix ''Series/Daredevil2015'' look. There are some who are upset that they dumped her "iconic" look in favor of "[[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU synergy]]" though many see it as a step up, step-up, finally dumping the HighlyVisibleNinja and bathing suit leotard look for something a lot more practical and perhaps boring. Some feel, though, that they could have compromised and given her the uniform she wore at the end of the ''ComicBook/AgentsOfSHIELD'' comic book.
* FanonDiscontinuity: Originally Elektra was just a normal girl who ended up going down a very dark path after the tragedy of losing her father. In the ''Man Without Fear'' miniseries showing how Matt Murdock became Daredevil Daredevil, she's portrayed as having always been a psychopath, hearing voices and intentionally going looking for trouble so she could murder her assailants. In an odd parallel to [[ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} Selina Kyle's]] prostitute past from ''ComicBook/BatmanYearOne'', this is one part of an otherwise well regarded well-regarded series that a lot of fans would prefer to ignore.
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* BrokenBase: Her ''ComicBook/MarvelNOW2016'' look, which is based off of her Netflix ''Series/{{Daredevil}}'' look. There are some who are upset that they dumped her "iconic" look in favor of "[[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU synergy]]" though many see it as a step up, finally dumping the HighlyVisibleNinja and bathing suit leotard look for something a lot more practical and perhaps boring. Some feel, though, that they could have compromised and given her the uniform she wore at the end of ''ComicBook/AgentsOfSHIELD''.

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* BrokenBase: Her ''ComicBook/MarvelNOW2016'' look, which is based off of her Netflix ''Series/{{Daredevil}}'' ''Series/Daredevil2015'' look. There are some who are upset that they dumped her "iconic" look in favor of "[[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU synergy]]" though many see it as a step up, finally dumping the HighlyVisibleNinja and bathing suit leotard look for something a lot more practical and perhaps boring. Some feel, though, that they could have compromised and given her the uniform she wore at the end of ''ComicBook/AgentsOfSHIELD''.the ''ComicBook/AgentsOfSHIELD'' comic book.
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* BrokenBase: Her ''ComicBook/MarvelNOW2016'' look, which is based off of her Netflix ''Series/{{Daredevil}}'' look. There are some who are upset that they dumped her "iconic" look in favor of "[[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU synergy]]" though many see it as a step up, finally dumping the HighlyVisableNinja and bathing suit leotard look for something a lot more practical and perhaps boring. Some feel, though, that they could have compromised and given her the uniform she wore at the end of ''ComicBook/AgentsOfSHIELD''.

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* BrokenBase: Her ''ComicBook/MarvelNOW2016'' look, which is based off of her Netflix ''Series/{{Daredevil}}'' look. There are some who are upset that they dumped her "iconic" look in favor of "[[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU synergy]]" though many see it as a step up, finally dumping the HighlyVisableNinja HighlyVisibleNinja and bathing suit leotard look for something a lot more practical and perhaps boring. Some feel, though, that they could have compromised and given her the uniform she wore at the end of ''ComicBook/AgentsOfSHIELD''.
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* BrokenBase: Her ''ComicBook/MarvelNOW2016'' look, which is based off of her Netflix ''Series/{{Daredevil}}'' look. There are some who are upset that they dumped her "iconic" look in favor of "[[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU synergy]]" though many see it as a step up, finally dumping the HighlyVisableNinja and bathing suit leotard look for something a lot more practical and perhaps boring. Some feel, though, that they could have compromised and given her the uniform she wore at the end of ''ComicBook/AgentsOfSHIELD''.
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Given that it has a 10% Rotten Tomatoes score, with a 30% Audience score, I'd say it's definitely a bad movie.


* SoOkayItsAverage: It's not perfect, certainly not a bad film. But the lack of anything interesting about the villains and Elektra's character didn't help it. In the end it's just bland.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: At one point Elektra says the sai is "An offensive weapon. For killing." While it can be used as a stabbing weapon, its primary purpose is ''defensive.'' It's designed for disarming and breaking swords.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: At one point Elektra says the sai is "An offensive weapon. For killing." While it can be used as a stabbing weapon, its a sai's primary purpose is ''defensive.'' It's designed for disarming and breaking swords.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: At one point Elektra says the sai is "An offensive weapon. For killing." While it can be used as a stabbing weapon, its primary purpose is ''defensive.'' It's designed for disarming and breaking swords.
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Critical Research Failure is when it\'s something anyone would know. Ask your average John Doe on the street about what kind of weapon the sai is and you\'ll probably get \"The kind that turtles use\".


* CriticalResearchFailure: "[The sai is] an offensive weapon. For killing." No, it's not. It's a defensive weapon for disarming and breaking swords. A sai is capable of some pretty horrific damage against someone, but Hollywood treats it like a knife, when it's a blunt instrument.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: In the Daredevil film, Elektra was killed by Bullseye. Now, one would believe this is what he spin-off movie would have been about: Elektra would hunt Bullseye down. Combine that with her becoming an assassin solely to have the funds and resources to find, as well as demonstrating more of Bullseye's [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty attraction to her in the first film]] to mess her up and other connections to the first film and you might have had a decent spin-off. Instead, it's a totally different movie, leaving her vengeance plot unresolved.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: In the Daredevil film, Elektra was killed by Bullseye. Now, one would believe this is what he the spin-off movie would have been about: Elektra would hunt Bullseye down. Combine that with her becoming an assassin solely to have the funds and resources to find, as well as demonstrating more of Bullseye's [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty attraction to her in the first film]] to mess her up and other connections to the first film and you might have had a decent spin-off. Instead, it's a totally different movie, leaving her vengeance plot unresolved.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Originally Elektra was just a normal girl who ended up going down a very dark path after the tragedy of losing her father. In the ''Man Without Fear'' miniseries showing how Matt Murdock became Daredevil she's portrayed as having always been a psychopath, hearing voices and intentionally going looking for trouble so she could murder her assailents. In an odd parallel to [[ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} Selina Kyle's]] prostitute past from ''ComicBook/BatmanYearOne'', this is one part of an otherwise well regarded series that a lot of fans would prefer to ignore.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: Originally Elektra was just a normal girl who ended up going down a very dark path after the tragedy of losing her father. In the ''Man Without Fear'' miniseries showing how Matt Murdock became Daredevil she's portrayed as having always been a psychopath, hearing voices and intentionally going looking for trouble so she could murder her assailents.assailants. In an odd parallel to [[ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} Selina Kyle's]] prostitute past from ''ComicBook/BatmanYearOne'', this is one part of an otherwise well regarded series that a lot of fans would prefer to ignore.
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*TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: In the Daredevil film, Elektra was killed by Bullseye. Now, one would believe this is what he spin-off movie would have been about: Elektra would hunt Bullseye down. Combine that with her becoming an assassin solely to have the funds and resources to find, as well as demonstrating more of Bullseye's [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty attraction to her in the first film]] to mess her up and other connections to the first film and you might have had a decent spin-off. Instead, it's a totally different movie, leaving her vengeance plot unresolved.
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* SoOkayItsAverage: It's not perfect, certainly not a bad film. But the lack of anything interesting about the villains and Elektra's character didn't help it.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: It's not perfect, certainly not a bad film. But the lack of anything interesting about the villains and Elektra's character didn't help it. In the end it's just bland.
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* SoOkayItsAverage: It's not perfect, certainly not a bad film. But the lack of anything interesting about the villains and Elektra's character didn't help it.
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* TookTheBadMovieSeriously: Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa turned in a very subtle and cool performance as Roshi.

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* TookTheBadMovieSeriously: TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa turned in a very subtle and cool performance as Roshi.
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*TookTheBadMovieSeriously: Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa turned in a very subtle and cool performance as Roshi.

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!!The comic character:
* FanonDiscontinuity: Originally Elektra was just a normal girl who ended up going down a very dark path after the tragedy of losing her father. In the ''Man Without Fear'' miniseries showing how Matt Murdock became Daredevil she's portrayed as having always been a psychopath, hearing voices and intentionally going looking for trouble so she could murder her assailents. In an odd parallel to [[ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} Selina Kyle's]] prostitute past from ''ComicBook/BatmanYearOne'', this is one part of an otherwise well regarded series that a lot of fans would prefer to ignore.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: Originally Elektra was just a normal girl who ended up going down a very dark path after the tragedy of losing her father. In the ''Man Without Fear'' miniseries showing how Matt Murdock became Daredevil she's portrayed as having always been a psychopath, hearing voices and intentionally going looking for trouble so she could murder her assailents. In an odd parallel to [[ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} Selina Kyle's]] prostitute past from ''ComicBook/BatmanYearOne'', this is one part of an otherwise well regarded series that a lot of fans would prefer to ignore.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Originally Elektra was just a normal girl who ended up going down a very dark path after the tragedy of losing her father. In the ''Man Without Fear'' miniseries showing how Matt Murdock became Daredevil she's portrayed as having always been a psychopath, hearing voices and intentionally going looking for trouble so she could murder her assailents. In an odd parallel to [[ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} Selina Kyle's]] prostitute past from ''BatmanYearOne'', this is one part of an otherwise well regarded series that a lot of fans would prefer to ignore.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: Originally Elektra was just a normal girl who ended up going down a very dark path after the tragedy of losing her father. In the ''Man Without Fear'' miniseries showing how Matt Murdock became Daredevil she's portrayed as having always been a psychopath, hearing voices and intentionally going looking for trouble so she could murder her assailents. In an odd parallel to [[ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} Selina Kyle's]] prostitute past from ''BatmanYearOne'', ''ComicBook/BatmanYearOne'', this is one part of an otherwise well regarded series that a lot of fans would prefer to ignore.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: "[The sai is] an offensive weapon. For killing." No, it's not. It's a defensive weapon for disarming and breaking swords. A sai is capable of some pretty horrific damage against someone, but Hollywood treats it like a knife, when it's a blunt instrument.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: "[The sai is] an offensive weapon. For killing." No, it's not. It's a defensive weapon for disarming and breaking swords. A sai is capable of some pretty horrific damage against someone, but Hollywood treats it like a knife, when it's a blunt instrument.instrument.
* FanonDiscontinuity: Originally Elektra was just a normal girl who ended up going down a very dark path after the tragedy of losing her father. In the ''Man Without Fear'' miniseries showing how Matt Murdock became Daredevil she's portrayed as having always been a psychopath, hearing voices and intentionally going looking for trouble so she could murder her assailents. In an odd parallel to [[ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} Selina Kyle's]] prostitute past from ''BatmanYearOne'', this is one part of an otherwise well regarded series that a lot of fans would prefer to ignore.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: "[The sai is] an offensive weapon. For killing." No it's not, sweetheart. It's a defensive weapon for disarming and breaking swords. A sai is capable of some pretty horrific damage against someone, but Hollywood treats it like a knife, when it's a blunt instrument.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: "[The sai is] an offensive weapon. For killing." No No, it's not, sweetheart.not. It's a defensive weapon for disarming and breaking swords. A sai is capable of some pretty horrific damage against someone, but Hollywood treats it like a knife, when it's a blunt instrument.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: "[The sai] is an offensive weapon. For killing." No it's not, sweetheart. It's a defensive weapon for disarming and breaking swords. A sai is capable of some pretty horrific damage against someone, but most people treat it like a knife, when it's a blunt instrument. Furthermore, it has a history as a farm and fishing implement. It only became a weapon due to a historical quirk (peasants designing fighting styles based on tools so that they didn't need to fear armed oppressors).
** That still makes it a weapon for killing, sweetheart.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: "[The sai] is sai is] an offensive weapon. For killing." No it's not, sweetheart. It's a defensive weapon for disarming and breaking swords. A sai is capable of some pretty horrific damage against someone, but most people treat Hollywood treats it like a knife, when it's a blunt instrument. Furthermore, it has a history as a farm and fishing implement. It only became a weapon due to a historical quirk (peasants designing fighting styles based on tools so that they didn't need to fear armed oppressors).
** That still makes it a weapon for killing, sweetheart.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: "[The sai] is an offensive weapon. For killing." No it's not, sweetheart. It's a defensive weapon for disarming and breaking swords. A sai is capable of some pretty horrific damage against someone, but most people treat it like a knife, when it's a blunt instrument. Furthermore, it has a history as a farm and fishing implement. It only became a weapon due to a historical quirk (peasants designing fighting styles based on tools so that they didn't need to fear armed oppressors).

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* CriticalResearchFailure: "[The sai] is an offensive weapon. For killing." No it's not, sweetheart. It's a defensive weapon for disarming and breaking swords. A sai is capable of some pretty horrific damage against someone, but most people treat it like a knife, when it's a blunt instrument. Furthermore, it has a history as a farm and fishing implement. It only became a weapon due to a historical quirk (peasants designing fighting styles based on tools so that they didn't need to fear armed oppressors).oppressors).
** That still makes it a weapon for killing, sweetheart.

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