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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Several instances:
** There are early indications that Kourin disapproved of what Suiko was up to, and was going to interfere and become a SpannerInTheWorks. This... kind of goes nowhere since although Kourin's intervention does help to break [[spoiler: Aichi]] out of his [[spoiler: addiction to PSY Qualia]], there was no overall interference with the plan.
** Similarly, there were a few hints that Kai and Tetsu were going to fight at some point. This never happens. The fans particularly seize on this one because Tetsu's fight with Kamui was astoundingly poorly choreographed (the most notorious example being the time Kamui uses a Perfect Guard against Tetsu's 12000 Power Still Vampyr while he had at least one 10000 Shield card in his hand). Said fight also had the issue that Kamui and Tetsu had no real connection whatsoever (this was even highlighted ''right before the fight when Tetsu doesn't even know Kamui is a member of Q4''), whereas Tetsu is Kai's EvilCounterpart.
* TotalEclipseOfThePlot: Notoriously in Episode 64, the tense fight between Aichi and Ren which the entire series had built up was eclipsed at its halfway point by the revelation that [[spoiler: Cray was real and that their fight was effectively deciding a totally stupid and pointless civil war between Royal Paladins and Shadow Paladins.]]
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* AwesomeMusic: The openings aside, the soundtrack of the anime is very good until fans are wondering when will the OST be released.
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** Subverted with the rest of the game, as Vanguard is noted as an exceptionally ''balanced'' card game. However, much ''much'' earlier around set 2 there was Barcgal, who wasn't a GameBreaker on his own--it was his ability to unavoidably add five cards to the soul and set up Soul Saver Dragon's soulblast that made him broken. This ''ruined'' the Japanese national competition at the time, as the entire senior division was won by Royal Paladin Barcgal-SSD decks(the junior division was considerably [[RuleOfFun more creative.]]) It's difficult to tell how much of this was actually broken though, and how much of it was the ''mindset'' that it was broken encouraging people to use Royal Paladins before the other clans, as Barcgal is now restricted in the Japanese format...and not in the English one. The Majesty Lord Blaster deck was also recently proven in Japan's competitions to still be vulnerable to the other clans' GameBreakers, like Dragonic Overlord The End and Phantom Blaster Overlord, bringing into question if the game was really broken or just broken for those outside the three 12000-13000 power clans.

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** Subverted with the rest of the game, as Vanguard is noted as an exceptionally ''balanced'' card game. However, much ''much'' earlier around set 2 there was Barcgal, who wasn't a GameBreaker on his own--it was his ability to unavoidably add five cards to the soul and set up Soul Saver Dragon's soulblast that made him broken. This ''ruined'' the Japanese national competition at the time, as the entire senior division was won by Royal Paladin Barcgal-SSD decks(the junior division was considerably [[RuleOfFun more creative.]]) It's difficult to tell how much of this was actually broken though, and how much of it was the ''mindset'' that it was broken encouraging people to use Royal Paladins before the other clans, as Barcgal is now restricted in the Japanese format...and not in the English one. The Majesty Lord Blaster deck was also recently proven in Japan's competitions to still be vulnerable to the other clans' GameBreakers, {{GameBreaker}}s, like Dragonic Overlord The End and Phantom Blaster Overlord, bringing into question if the game was really broken or just broken for those outside the three 12000-13000 power clans.



** [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120317065122/cardfight/images/c/ca/6313.jpg Ren and Aichi]]. [[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120317065204/cardfight/images/a/ac/6314.jpg Just Ren and Aichi]]...

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** Overlapping with FoeYay: [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120317065122/cardfight/images/c/ca/6313.jpg Ren and Aichi]]. [[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120317065204/cardfight/images/a/ac/6314.jpg Just Ren and Aichi]]...



** One of the first was Gouki's {{Invocation}}for his Granblue resurrection abilities: [[DeathIsCheap 'Pirates can be resurrected any number of times!']]

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* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: [[spoiler: Aichi [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide on]] [[PsychicPowers PSY Qualia]]. It starts in episode 41 and then [[ItGotWorse gets worse]]. As he gets more [[TheCorruption corrupted]] by it, his DissonantSerenity begins to reach PsychopathicManchild levels, complete with SlasherSmile and MadnessMantra.]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Aichi''']]: [[spoiler: I'm strong...I've gotten stronger...]]
** [[spoiler: Taken UpToEleven from episodes 48 to 50. Aichi's expressions while fighting look more like he's a character from HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi, instead of a card game anime.]]
** Suiko's smile [[spoiler: with the weird glowing cards reflected in her eyes]] at the end of episode [[spoiler: 58]] is pretty unsettling...
** Ren's [[UpToEleven extreme]] [[SlasherSmile Slasher Smiles]] in episode 63 are rather creepy.


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* NightmareFuel: [[spoiler: Aichi [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide on]] [[PsychicPowers PSY Qualia]]. It starts in episode 41 and then [[ItGotWorse gets worse]]. As he gets more [[TheCorruption corrupted]] by it, his DissonantSerenity begins to reach PsychopathicManchild levels, complete with SlasherSmile and MadnessMantra.]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Aichi''']]: [[spoiler: I'm strong...I've gotten stronger...]]
** [[spoiler: Taken UpToEleven from episodes 48 to 50. Aichi's expressions while fighting look more like he's a character from HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi, instead of a card game anime.]]
** Suiko's smile [[spoiler: with the weird glowing cards reflected in her eyes]] at the end of episode [[spoiler: 58]] is pretty unsettling...
** Ren's [[UpToEleven extreme]] [[SlasherSmile Slasher Smiles]] in episode 63 are rather creepy.
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* JumpingTheShark: Widely agreed to have happened in Episode 64 after the revelation of [[spoiler: the true purpose of PSY Qualia. Not only was the PlotTwist so bad it entered ShockingSwerve territory, the introduction of Cray put a mass IdiotBall on everyone on the planey]].
* MemeticBadass: [[TokenMiniMoe Emi]] and [[CripplingOverspecialization Morikawa]]. The latter was taken UpToEleven after Morikawa got a balanced deck and [[spoiler: spent two episodes winning all his fights]].


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* MemeticMutation: Quite a few phrases got mutated among the fandom
** One of the first was Gouki's {{Invocation}}for his Granblue resurrection abilities: [[DeathIsCheap 'Pirates can be resurrected any number of times!']]
** Episode 4 of Season 2 gave us Rekka's '[[{{Kawaiiko}} Kyun]] [[MostAnnoyingSound Kyun]] Ride'
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* AntiClimaxBoss: [[spoiler: Ren]] in the final arc of season 1. Made worse by being a combination of this trope and IdiotBall--Against [[spoiler: Kai]] he plays very well, but when he goes up against Aichi? He practically throws his hand away on early guard and call maneuvers that don't match up with his established play style, lucks into drawing [[spoiler: Phantom Blaster Overlord]], and he attacks a unit that Aichi would have ''had'' to voluntarily retire anyway for his own strategy to work. Compared to the previous four, incredibly tense and wildly unpredictable fights it comes off as a major letdown.
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** [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120317065122/cardfight/images/c/ca/6313.jpg Ren and Aichi]]. [[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120317065204/cardfight/images/a/ac/6314.jpg Just Ren and Aichi]]...
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** Subverted with the rest of the game, as Vanguard is noted as an exceptionally ''balanced'' card game. However, much ''much'' earlier around set 2 there was Barcgal, who wasn't a GameBreaker on his own--it was his ability to unavoidably add five cards to the soul and set up Soul Saver Dragon's soulblast that made him broken. This ''ruined'' the Japanese national competition at the time, as the entire senior division was won by Royal Paladin Barcgal-SSD decks(the junior division was considerably [[RuleOfFun more creative.]]) It's difficult to tell how much of this was actually broken though, and how much of it was the ''mindset'' that it was broken encouraging people to use Royal Paladins before the other clans, as Barcgal is now restricted in the Japanese format...and not in the English one. The Majesty Lord Blaster deck was also recently proven in Japan's competitions to still be vulnerable to the other clans' GameBreakers, like Dragonic Overlord The End and Phantom Blaster Overlord, bringing into question if the game was really broken or just broken for those outside the three 12000-13000 power clans.
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* GameBreaker: A Majesty Lord Blaster deck. The deck is obscenely broken. Not only does its ace card have the potential for a permanent extra Critical and 12000 Power, said ace has a dedicated searcher (Wingal Brave), which happens to be the deck's starter Vanguard and can also search out either of the two cards needed to activate Majesty's skill. Then there's Starcall Trumpeter, which can call out Blaster Blade or Blaster Dark from the deck for Counterblast 2. And finally, Solitary Knight Gancelot, which can return itself from the hand to the deck to search out Blaster Blade from the deck. It's a ridiculously efficient Toolbox which creates a monster of a Vanguard, usually by Turn 3 (not coincidentally when you'll tend to Ride Majesty Lord Blaster). Once this combo is fully set up, the opponent may as well just give up there, because bar extremely ridiculous luck, they're pretty much doomed to lose.


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* TheScrappy: In the card game, Murakumo. They're seen as a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute for Nubatama, and the common belief is that Bushiroad only created Murakumo to avoid following up Nubatama because the latter are too hard to balance (their gimmick being hand destruction in a game where the hand is very important). It doesn't help that in the manga, the first Murakumo cards ''were'' Nubatama.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The openings. They're done by JAMProject, what do you expect?
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** Ren's [[UpToEleven extreme]] [[SlasherSmile Slasher Smiles]] in episode 63 are rather creepy.
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** Kai has this all over the place. Not only does he have frequent moments with [[TheRival Aichi]], but also [[HeterosexualLifePartners Miwa]] and [[FoeYay Ren]].
** Tetsu always seems incredibly devoted to Ren...

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* MemeticMolester: Around Ren, everyone needs an adult.

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* MemeticMolester: Around Ren, everyone needs an adult. adult.
* MindGameShip: Ren enjoys screwing around with Aichi's already rather shaky self-confidence a bit much, and basically slowly pushing him over the edge. At the very least the guy's good at knowing which buttons to push. While watching Aichi's match with Kenji, Ren's main concern is having Aichi fall to the power of Psyqualia again and [[InLoveWithYourCarnage show him the victory he desires.]]
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*** Though honestly, I pretty large portion of that is [[BigBad Ren's]] fault. He seemed at least not as bad until Ren decided to rub it into his face.

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*** Though honestly, I a pretty large portion of that is probably [[BigBad Ren's]] fault. He seemed at least not as bad until Ren decided to rub it into his face.
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** This make a bit more sense if you realize that the problem wasn't that he ''lost'', he was a bit disappointed about it, but was otherwise fine. The problem is that he thinks that it's entirely his fault that ''his team'' lost. (Which is nonsense, since Misaki lost too, but Ren basically hammered it into his head.) And his team includes Kai, and Aichi is obsessed with trying to get Kai to acknowledge him.

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** This make a bit more sense if you realize that the problem wasn't that he ''lost'', he was a bit disappointed about it, but was otherwise fine. The problem is that he thinks that it's entirely his fault that ''his team'' lost. (Which is nonsense, since Misaki lost too, but Ren basically hammered it into his head.) And his team includes Kai, and Aichi is obsessed with trying to get Kai to acknowledge him.him.
*** Though honestly, I pretty large portion of that is [[BigBad Ren's]] fault. He seemed at least not as bad until Ren decided to rub it into his face.
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** Suiko's smile at the end of episode [[spoiler: 58]] is pretty unsettling...

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** Suiko's smile [[spoiler: with the weird glowing cards reflected in her eyes]] at the end of episode [[spoiler: 58]] is pretty unsettling...
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** Suiko's smile at the end of episode [[spoiler: 58]] is pretty unsettling...
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* HoYay: '''RAMPANT''' between Aichi and Kai. Gets a [[LampshadeHanging lampshade hung on it]] in episode 4 when the store manager compares Aichi looking for Kai to looking for his girlfriend. Aichi even admits it early on, by noting that he became obsessed with Kai (whom he had met all of once) and picked up the game just to get a chance to fight him.
** Ren and Kai have their moments as well. God, their dialogue in Episode 32...
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** [[spoiler: Taken UpToEleven from episode 48 onwards. Aichi's expressions while fighting look more like he's a character from HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi, instead of a card game anime.]]

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** [[spoiler: Taken UpToEleven from episode episodes 48 onwards.to 50. Aichi's expressions while fighting look more like he's a character from HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi, instead of a card game anime.]]
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* UnpleasableFanbase: First people were complaining in the streaming site's comments section about Aichi losing virtually every fight he was in. [[spoiler: Then, when he started curbstomping people, they complained about that, too.]]
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* UnpleasableFanbase: First people were complaining in the streaming site's comments section about Aichi losing virtually every fight he was in, then when he started curbstomping people they complained about that, too.

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* UnpleasableFanbase: First people were complaining in the streaming site's comments section about Aichi losing virtually every fight he was in, then in. [[spoiler: Then, when he started curbstomping people people, they complained about that, too.]]
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** [[spoiler: Taken UpToEleven from episode 48 onwards. Aichi's expressions while fighting look more like he's a character from HigurashiNoNakuKoroNi, instead of a card game anime.]]
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* CompleteMonster: Phantom Blaster Dragon.
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* * BadassDecay / TheWorfEffect: She seems to suffer from a combination of these tropes. She's initially portrayed as a strong fighter and [[CurbstompBattle curbstomps]] Aichi on their first meeting. She is then [[CurbstompBattle curbstomped]] by [[BigBad Ren]], [[spoiler: [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide Aichi]]]], and [[spoiler: [[TheAce Kai]]]] in her following three fights.

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* * BadassDecay / TheWorfEffect: She seems Kourin can be seen to suffer from a combination of these tropes. She's initially portrayed as a strong fighter and [[CurbstompBattle curbstomps]] Aichi on their first meeting. She is then [[CurbstompBattle curbstomped]] by [[BigBad Ren]], [[spoiler: [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide Aichi]]]], and [[spoiler: [[TheAce Kai]]]] in her following three fights.
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* * BadassDecay / TheWorfEffect: She seems to suffer from a combination of these tropes. She's initially portrayed as a strong fighter and [[CurbstompBattle curbstomps]] Aichi on their first meeting. She is then [[CurbstompBattle curbstomped]] by [[BigBad Ren]], [[spoiler: [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide Aichi]]]], and [[spoiler: [[TheAce Kai]]]] in her following three fights.

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* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: [[spoiler: Aichi [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide on]] [[PsychicPowers PSY Qualia]]. It starts in episode 41 and then [[ItGotWorse gets worse]]. As he gets more [[TheCorruption corrupted]] by it, his {{DissonantSerenity}} begins to reach {{PsychopathicManchild}} levels, complete with {{SlasherSmile}} and {{MadnessMantra}}.

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* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: [[spoiler: Aichi [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide on]] [[PsychicPowers PSY Qualia]]. It starts in episode 41 and then [[ItGotWorse gets worse]]. As he gets more [[TheCorruption corrupted]] by it, his {{DissonantSerenity}} DissonantSerenity begins to reach {{PsychopathicManchild}} PsychopathicManchild levels, complete with {{SlasherSmile}} SlasherSmile and {{MadnessMantra}}.MadnessMantra.]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Aichi''']]: [[spoiler: I'm strong...I've gotten stronger...]]
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* EpilepticTrees: Some started growing early in when Shin read out the marketing fluff for the Vanguard Gloves, which stated they had 'crystals mined from the Planet Cray', Cray being the planet on which the Units battle. These trees got a right watering after one of Kai's lines in Episode 40 to Aichi regarding [[spoiler: PSY Qualia]], said line being 'you're the one who's doing the fighting'. Fans have theorized from this that Cray is real and that [[spoiler: PSY Qualia]] is allowing your Vanguard to take control of the fight in your place.
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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Fans were debating Ren's gender up until the first episode where he got speaking lines aired.

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