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* Similarly, the properties of cutie marks exactly match the nature of the anti-Discordant force described above.
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[[WMG:Nepher is related to Starlight Glimmer?]]
* From Triptych Chapter 29, there's this about Snitchers. Or are there more lots of ponies wanting to make their own private village?
--> Nepher wants to know about bulk creation. Asked me to come back if I found something. Thought using them on private village might allow 'direction of society'.
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* We've had a hint that there was something that broke Celestia and Luna's relationship with their father, and certainly "something" pushed them to leave their barricade point on their mad quest.
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* We've had a hint that there was something that broke Celestia and Luna's relationship with their father, and certainly "something" ''something'' pushed them to leave their barricade point on their mad quest.
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[[WMG: At least one of Celestia and Luna's siblings was a chaos child who was "sent on"]]
* During the Discordant Era, most pony barricade points were monotribal. In the chaos, ponies forgot the workings of their own blood and came to believe that cross-tribe foals were Discord's creations... and at least some barricade points abandoned them to the chaos, "sending them on".
* We've had a hint that there was something that broke Celestia and Luna's relationship with their father, and certainly "something" pushed them to leave their barricade point on their mad quest.
* To this day, cross-tribe foals and their proper treatment is a major concern of the Diarchy, drawing more of their attention than most of Equestria's other social issues.
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[[WMG: Why was the CMC's argument in front of Discord's Statue the trigger for his release?]]
If Harmony is related to Quantum and Cutie Marks, it might be less that they're arguing and more that they're markless? Their argument forced Harmony or whatever to devote more local resources into calculating their options, and took the resources from the petrification, leading to his release?
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* When they are discussing Cadence and Twilight in ''A Mark Of Appeal'', Celestia and Princess Luna both seem to talk as though ''only'' alicorns (and of course Discord) can touch SUN and MOON. They repeatedly emphasize the importance of ensuring that there is always at least one alicorn, implying that this simply isn't a talent a regular pony can bear.
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** There seems to be a correlation between the strength of the talent and the degree to which it dominates the pony's life. Talents amplified by red-tinge obviously consume their bearer's life, and both Fortreeze and Blank Canvas are mentioned to have unusually strong talents and to be deeply ''fallen''.
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[[WMG: The "cutie" in "cutie mark" is a corruption of "quantumn"]]
"Quantumn mark" becomes "QT mark" becomes "cutie mark".
* Quantumn theory has been referenced in the Continuum, so we know it exists.
* In ''Triptych'', Dr. Gentle mentioned that there was a story behind the term "cutie mark", which he was not going to share due to time constraints.
* Discord's description above of his opposite, "the wave which picks a single option before forcing all others to cease any existence they might have ever achieved", sounds very much like a description of quantumn waveform collapse.
* That description also very much fits the way marks themselves seem to work: one potential definition chosen and enforced and all others discarded.
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[[WMG: Discord is watching in the ''Glimmer'' mission.]]
Because he cares about Fluttershy?
Because he cares about Fluttershy?
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[[WMG: Discord is watching in the ''Glimmer'' mission.mission and will relate to however Starlight is "solved".]]
Because he cares aboutFluttershy?
Fluttershy? And he's a path to not-murder solutions, like removing her horn and stuff.
[[WMG: Starlight will have her cutie mark swapped with Trixie by Starswirl's Spell.]]
So Trixie feels happier with her mark after the story. Or maybe Trixie gets "limited cutie pox" gaining Starlight's mark along with her own.
Because he cares about
[[WMG: Starlight will have her cutie mark swapped with Trixie by Starswirl's Spell.]]
So Trixie feels happier with her mark after the story. Or maybe Trixie gets "limited cutie pox" gaining Starlight's mark along with her own.
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[[WMG:''Glimmer'''s big first contact with Starlight connects Trixie and Starlight's pasts]]
Just because there were unknown connections in Triptych. And Trixie, for ''some reason'', doesn't have enough magic to fully use her mark.
[[WMG: Discord is watching in the ''Glimmer'' mission.]]
Because he cares about Fluttershy?
[[WMG: Starlight is a Mirror Pony from the Mirror Pool, that has sufficient stability to survive for years and years]]
Just because she's really weird / crazy.
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* Cutie marks, although popularly believed to be part of the pony soul, have several oddities.
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* Cutie marks, although popularly believed to be part of the pony soul, have several oddities.oddities which make more sense if we suppose that they are an external entity.
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** They can also under the right circumstances be transferred or temporarily disconnected from the rest of the soul.
** Ponies often speak of their marks "whispering" to them or prompting them, as though they were capable of independent thought.
** It's confirmed over in''''Fanfic/DailyEquestriaLifeWithMonsterGirl'' that cutie marks ''did not exist'' during the Discordant Era, that Celestia and Princess Luna's marks were (as far as anyone not Discord knows) the ''first'' to appear.
** Ponies often speak of their marks "whispering" to them or prompting them, as though they were capable of independent thought.
** It's confirmed over in
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** Note also that the mark's effect on the pony psyche is to ''define'' the pony as some specific role: the Farmer, the Blacksmith, the Researcher, and so on. Even the most well-balanced
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** Note also that the mark's effect on the pony psyche is to ''define'' the pony as some specific role: the Farmer, the Blacksmith, the Researcher, and so on. Even the most well-balanced ponies cannot ''deny'' their mark and do nothing related to it, this has been shown and stated outright on multiple occasions. And as for the Fallen, they are what their mark defines them as, no more and no less. This exactly matches the description of the anti-Discordant force mentioned above.
** It's mentioned in a couple of places that Discord cannot directly affect cutie marks.
* Putting all this together, let us suppose that as part of their quest to overthrow Discord, the Sisters made a bargain with this anti-Discordant force, allowing it to bind Splinters of itself to their souls as metaphysical symbiotes. These symbiotes (the cutie marks), grant increased facility at a single defined role and some measure of protection from Discord's influence, but at the cost of locking them into their defined role. And then the Sisters were considered to be speaking for ponykind as a whole, and so their bargain allowed these Splinters to attach themselves to every pony.
** It's mentioned in a couple of places that Discord cannot directly affect cutie marks.
* Putting all this together, let us suppose that as part of their quest to overthrow Discord, the Sisters made a bargain with this anti-Discordant force, allowing it to bind Splinters of itself to their souls as metaphysical symbiotes. These symbiotes (the cutie marks), grant increased facility at a single defined role and some measure of protection from Discord's influence, but at the cost of locking them into their defined role. And then the Sisters were considered to be speaking for ponykind as a whole, and so their bargain allowed these Splinters to attach themselves to every pony.
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[[WMG: Cutie marks are Splinters of Harmony/Identity.]]
* We know that there exists in Menajeria some force opposed to Discord, something which he cannot understand and which repels his touch, "the wave which picks a single option before forcing all others to cease any existence they might have ever achieved". This force may or may not be what the Elements of Harmony channel.
* Cutie marks, although popularly believed to be part of the pony soul, have several oddities.
** They ''manifest'' at a later date, well after the rest of the pony soul is formed.
** It's confirmed over in ''
** In cutie pox, a pony manifests multiple marks, each of which brings with it the talent and magic of a true mark.
** They are conspicuously noted to be immutable: nothing can alter a mark's physical appearance once it has manifested.
** Note also that the mark's effect on the pony psyche is to ''define'' the pony as some specific role: the Farmer, the Blacksmith, the Researcher, and so on. Even the most well-balanced
* We know that there exists in Menajeria some force opposed to Discord, something which he cannot understand and which repels his touch, "the wave which picks a single option before forcing all others to cease any existence they might have ever achieved". This force may or may not be what the Elements of Harmony channel.
* Cutie marks, although popularly believed to be part of the pony soul, have several oddities.
** They ''manifest'' at a later date, well after the rest of the pony soul is formed.
** It's confirmed over in ''
** In cutie pox, a pony manifests multiple marks, each of which brings with it the talent and magic of a true mark.
** They are conspicuously noted to be immutable: nothing can alter a mark's physical appearance once it has manifested.
** Note also that the mark's effect on the pony psyche is to ''define'' the pony as some specific role: the Farmer, the Blacksmith, the Researcher, and so on. Even the most well-balanced
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[[WMG: Seaponies actually do exist, and will be a plot point.]]
The narration of the stories will frequently [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial go out of its way to state that seaponies do not exist, even when this has nothing to do with the topic at hoof]]. Estee would not be going so far out of her way to make it clear that nobody in the Continuum believes seaponies exist unless seaponies ''do'' in fact exist in the Continuum, and the revelation of their existence is going to be a major plot point at some point.
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[[WMG: Couldn't Celestia have, at some point, tried to Found a line of [[spoiler:SUN-links]]?]]
Whether from the horse's mouth or Word of God, we know Celestia considers the prospect of outliving a husband and foal to be too painful to even try once (and perhaps considers the possibility of cursing a foal with an alicorn's existence to be an unforgivable roll of the dice). But we also know about Founders, ponies whose marks are the first of a new field of talent (such as Travel Track's, the pony who invented the railway). Considering Celestia and Luna are the only ponies known to have gotten marks for moving the sun and moon respectively, couldn't Celestia have at least *tried* to have a foal and pass on her talent to a new generation so that the fate of the world did not rest on her and her alone?
Whether from the horse's mouth or Word of God, we know Celestia considers the prospect of outliving a husband and foal to be too painful to even try once (and perhaps considers the possibility of cursing a foal with an alicorn's existence to be an unforgivable roll of the dice). But we also know about Founders, ponies whose marks are the first of a new field of talent (such as Travel Track's, the pony who invented the railway). Considering Celestia and Luna are the only ponies known to have gotten marks for moving the sun and moon respectively, couldn't Celestia have at least *tried* to have a foal and pass on her talent to a new generation so that the fate of the world did not rest on her and her alone?
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[[WMG: Couldn't Celestia have, at some point, tried to Found a line of [[spoiler:SUN-links]]?]]
[[spoiler:SUN-links?]]]]
Whether from the horse's mouth or Word of God, we know Celestia considers the prospect of outliving a husband and foal to be too painful to even try once (and perhaps considers the possibility of cursing a foal with an alicorn's existence to be an unforgivable roll of the dice). But we also know about Founders, ponies whose marks are the first of a new field of talent (such as Travel Track's, the pony who invented the railway). Considering Celestia and Luna are the only ponies known to have gotten marks for moving the sun and moon respectively, couldn't Celestia have at least*tried* ''tried'' to have a foal and pass on her talent to a new generation so that the fate of the world did not rest on her and her alone?
Whether from the horse's mouth or Word of God, we know Celestia considers the prospect of outliving a husband and foal to be too painful to even try once (and perhaps considers the possibility of cursing a foal with an alicorn's existence to be an unforgivable roll of the dice). But we also know about Founders, ponies whose marks are the first of a new field of talent (such as Travel Track's, the pony who invented the railway). Considering Celestia and Luna are the only ponies known to have gotten marks for moving the sun and moon respectively, couldn't Celestia have at least
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[[WMG: Couldn't Celestia have, at some point, tried to Found a line of [[spoiler:SUN-links]]?]]
Whether from the horse's mouth or Word of God, we know Celestia considers the prospect of outliving a husband and foal to be too painful to even try once (and perhaps considers the possibility of cursing a foal with an alicorn's existence to be an unforgivable roll of the dice). But we also know about Founders, ponies whose marks are the first of a new field of talent (such as Travel Track's, the pony who invented the railway). Considering Celestia and Luna are the only ponies known to have gotten marks for moving the sun and moon respectively, couldn't Celestia have at least *tried* to have a foal and pass on her talent to a new generation so that the fate of the world did not rest on her and her alone?
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[[WMG: What truly happened to Starswirl is [[spoiler: that he reincarnated as Starlight Glimmer.]]]]
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[[WMG: What truly happened to Starswirl is [[spoiler: that [[spoiler:that he reincarnated as Starlight Glimmer.]]]]
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[[WMG: Starlight isn't a pony. Or she is. Either way, she knows stuff about Tartarus.]]
Because of information in ''Acrimonius'' of ''Fanfic/DailyEquestriaLifeWithMonsterGirl''.
Her lockdown appears to be [[spoiler:like the one around Tartarus]].
It's made by a device, so is it [[spoiler:using a Tartarus shard]] to produce its effect, like [[spoiler:the translators]]?
Old idea was that she was an escapee because [[spoiler:she went so insane as be to untormentable]], and is [[spoiler:Tartarus's Avatar]] to the outside.
But if that's all true enough, why hasn't she [[spoiler:replicated the "can't die" effect or TheNeedless ones]]? Too hard? Too many bad side-effects? Etc?
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Anyway... So, the [[spoiler:solar flare and lunar flare devices... if they can be carried through dragonflame... And if the dragonflame can be sent to offset from a target, like ''500 meters north of Scootaloo's parents''... With the flare... Then we know very roughly where they are...
Also, we know that for some reason, possibly the same reason as in ''Glimmer'', ''Anchor Foal'' Celestia had reason to try the ''attachment'' spell with one of Spike's scrolls, before the latest chapter.]]
Also, we know that for some reason, possibly the same reason as in ''Glimmer'', ''Anchor Foal'' Celestia had reason to try the ''attachment'' spell with one of Spike's scrolls, before the latest chapter.]]
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Anyway... So, the [[spoiler:solar flare (pun) and lunar flare devices... if they can be carried through dragonflame... And if the dragonflame can be sent to offset from a target, like ''500 meters north of Scootaloo's parents''... With the flare... Then we know very roughly where they are...
Also,are...]]
[[spoiler:Also, we know that for some reason, possibly the same reason as in ''Glimmer'', ''Anchor Foal'' Celestia had reason to try the ''attachment'' spell with one of Spike's scrolls, before the latest chapter.]]
Also,
[[spoiler:Also, we know that for some reason, possibly the same reason as in ''Glimmer'', ''Anchor Foal'' Celestia had reason to try the ''attachment'' spell with one of Spike's scrolls, before the latest chapter.]]
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[[WMG:Spike can aim his flame teleports relative to a person]]
I'm just hoping, really. Because the latest ''Glimmer'' chapter relates to that... And ''Anchor Foal'' has revealed more on its mechanics... Oooh... And just thought of the clear pun in ''Glimmer''...
Anyway... So, the [[spoiler:solar flare and lunar flare devices... if they can be carried through dragonflame... And if the dragonflame can be sent to offset from a target, like ''500 meters north of Scootaloo's parents''... With the flare... Then we know very roughly where they are...
Also, we know that for some reason, possibly the same reason as in ''Glimmer'', ''Anchor Foal'' Celestia had reason to try the ''attachment'' spell with one of Spike's scrolls, before the latest chapter.]]
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[[WMG: The Elements of Harmony aren't about Harmony.]]
It's like ''Fanfic/HarmonyTheory'', given the Estee story, of possibly in the continuum, ''Recap/TriptychContinuumTheEagleAndTheSquirrel'': The Elements are just how to channel raw anti-Discord energy, it's ponies / sentients that interpret Energy Flow Smoothing or something, as Kindness.
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[[WMG: Twilight and Starlight are ''both'' [[spoiler:reincarnations of Starswirl, just from different time periods.]]]]
* [[spoiler:Twilight is the modern incarnation, and Starlight is a past incarnation that somehow gained the ability to travel to the story's present.]]
* [[spoiler:Twilight is the modern incarnation, and Starlight is a past incarnation that somehow gained the ability to travel to the story's present.]]
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[[WMG: Twilight and Starlight are ''both'' [[spoiler:reincarnations of Starswirl, just from different time periods.Starswirl.]]]]
* [[spoiler:Twilight is the modern incarnation,and while Starlight is a past incarnation that somehow gained the ability to time travel to the story's present.]]
* [[spoiler:Twilight is the modern incarnation,
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* She got hit with the Crystal Empire time stop. Or comes from an even further time, before Cutie Marks.
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** Because when reincarnation and time travel are ''both'' on the table, why stop at one layer of convolution!
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** Because when reincarnation and time travel are ''both'' on the table, why stop at just one layer of convolution!
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** Because when reincarnation ''and'' and time travel are ''both'' on the table, why stop at one layer of convolution!
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[[WMG: Twilight and Starlight are ''both'' [[spoiler:reincarnations of Starswirl, just from different time periods.]]]]
* [[spoiler:Twilight is the modern incarnation, and Starlight is a past incarnation that somehow gained the ability to travel to the story's present.]]
** Because when reincarnation ''and'' time travel are on the table, why stop at one layer of convolution!
* [[spoiler:Twilight is the modern incarnation, and Starlight is a past incarnation that somehow gained the ability to travel to the story's present.]]
** Because when reincarnation ''and'' time travel are on the table, why stop at one layer of convolution!
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[[WMG: Starlight is behind the Murdock Press Corps.]]
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* Additionally, Starlight's mane is acknowledged in universe as being done up in an ancient style.
[[WMG: Starlight already has the ability to time travel and is from the ancient past.]]
* Her mane is noted to be in an ancient style that can only be found in old paintings.
[[WMG: Starlight already has the ability to time travel and is from the ancient past.]]
* Her mane is noted to be in an ancient style that can only be found in old paintings.
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[[WMG: What truly happened to Starswirl is [[spoiler: that he reincarnated as Starlight Glimmer]].]]
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[[WMG: What truly happened to Starswirl is [[spoiler: that he reincarnated as Starlight Glimmer]].]]Glimmer.]]]]
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[[WMG: The true [[spoiler:reincarnation]] of Starswirl is [[spoiler:Starlight Glimmer]].]]
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[[WMG: The true [[spoiler:reincarnation]] of What truly happened to Starswirl is [[spoiler:Starlight [[spoiler: that he reincarnated as Starlight Glimmer]].]]
