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** An alternative about having Jason Segel as a guest would be play with the idea of Jason and Walter been really similar. Including confusing the two the whole time, having Walter (or Jason) doing Jason's (or Walter's) act and maybe some body swapping at Muppet Lab.
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** An alternative about having Jason Segel as a guest would be play playing with the idea of Jason and Walter been being really similar. Including confusing the two the whole time, having Walter (or Jason) doing Jason's (or Walter's) act and maybe some body swapping at Muppet Lab.
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** An alternative about having Jason Segel as a guest would be play with the idea of Jason and Walter been really similar. Including confusing the two the whole time, having Walter (or Jason) doing Jason's (or Walter's) act and maybe some body swapping at Muppet Lab.
* Other guest would be LadyGaga and the other ton of cameos from the Movie which didn't make the cut.
* Other guest would be LadyGaga and the other ton of cameos from the Movie which didn't make the cut.
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* This is supported by the fact that the Sesame Street gang and the brand is owned by another company, so of ''course'' the movie would act like it never existed.
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* And the first guest will be Jason Segel, who Walter will [[CelebrityParadox mistake for Gary]]. Other early guests would include: Jack Black (who would spend most of the episode planning revenge on Miss Piggy for kidnapping him), Neal Patrick Harris (and it would be pure concentrated awesome), Whoopi Goldberg (because she is probably the biggest celebrity collaborator alive when it comes to Muppets), and (sadly) Justin Bieber (throws up).
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* And the first guest will be Jason Segel, who Walter will [[CelebrityParadox mistake for Gary]]. Other early guests would include: Jack Black (who would spend most of the episode planning revenge on Miss Piggy for kidnapping him), Neal Neil Patrick Harris (and it would be pure concentrated awesome), Whoopi Goldberg (because she is probably the biggest celebrity collaborator alive when it comes to Muppets), and (sadly) Justin Bieber (throws up).
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* Considering Walter is basically the alter ego of JasonSegel, if he's the producer of this thing, is basically confirmed
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** In an interview, Kermit actually list insanity as one of the defining traits of a Muppet. So, if you are a Muppet, you are insane by default. Which means the Mental Effects of this WMG are practically confirmed
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** In an interview, Kermit actually list insanity as one of the defining traits of a Muppet. So, if you are a Muppet, you are insane by default. Which means the Mental Effects of this WMG are practically confirmedconfirmed
[[WMG: If there's a revival of the Muppet Show, the continuity will be based on the promotion material and not the movie itself]]
In the promotional material, Walter actually has no brothers (at least not confirmed) and he's actually playing a character which coincidentally is called Walter as well. He knows Jason Segel as Jason Segel the actor who plays the brother of Walter the character. Also, Kermit has said in interviews several times one thing is the movie and the other is the "real" life. I'm guessing, out of respect of the Muppeters who probably didn't like has erased out of continuity all their work from after TheMuppetsTakeManhattan to the Movie (Except Bobo and Pepe), that the new show will have the continuity of the promotional material instead of the movie per se. Which will be kind of easy: Walter just has to not say anything about his past and the rest of the Muppets doesn't have to say anything about the time they were separated and that it!
[[WMG: If there's a revival of the Muppet Show, the continuity will be based on the promotion material and not the movie itself]]
In the promotional material, Walter actually has no brothers (at least not confirmed) and he's actually playing a character which coincidentally is called Walter as well. He knows Jason Segel as Jason Segel the actor who plays the brother of Walter the character. Also, Kermit has said in interviews several times one thing is the movie and the other is the "real" life. I'm guessing, out of respect of the Muppeters who probably didn't like has erased out of continuity all their work from after TheMuppetsTakeManhattan to the Movie (Except Bobo and Pepe), that the new show will have the continuity of the promotional material instead of the movie per se. Which will be kind of easy: Walter just has to not say anything about his past and the rest of the Muppets doesn't have to say anything about the time they were separated and that it!
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* The Movie was originally 3 hours long. It was cut somehow to 1 and 45 minutes. Almost the half of the time.
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** Hey now, don't go hating on Fabricated-Americans.
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** Hey now, don't go hating on Fabricated-Americans.Fabricated-Americans.
** In an interview, Kermit actually list insanity as one of the defining traits of a Muppet. So, if you are a Muppet, you are insane by default. Which means the Mental Effects of this WMG are practically confirmed
** In an interview, Kermit actually list insanity as one of the defining traits of a Muppet. So, if you are a Muppet, you are insane by default. Which means the Mental Effects of this WMG are practically confirmed
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[[WMG: The movie was a test balloon for a revival of the ''TheMuppetShow'', and now that it's been a success that show will be green-lit.]]
It'll just be called ''TheMuppets'', however, since to actually call it TheMuppetShow would be courting disaster as far as the comparisons it would bring.
*And the first guest will be Jason Segel, who Walter will [[CelebrityParadox mistake for Gary]]. Other early guests would include: Jack Black (who would spend most of the episode planning revenge on Miss Piggy for kidnapping him), Neal Patrick Harris (and it would be pure concentrated awesome), Whoopi Goldberg (because she is probably the biggest celebrity collaborator alive when it comes to Muppets), and (sadly) Justin Bieber (throws up).
It'll just be called ''TheMuppets'', however, since to actually call it TheMuppetShow would be courting disaster as far as the comparisons it would bring.
*And the first guest will be Jason Segel, who Walter will [[CelebrityParadox mistake for Gary]]. Other early guests would include: Jack Black (who would spend most of the episode planning revenge on Miss Piggy for kidnapping him), Neal Patrick Harris (and it would be pure concentrated awesome), Whoopi Goldberg (because she is probably the biggest celebrity collaborator alive when it comes to Muppets), and (sadly) Justin Bieber (throws up).
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* Its possible this means its treated as a birth defect, which might explain why nobody calls attention to the obvious differences between Walter and Gary, out of a desire not to be insulting. There might also be mental effects, explaining simultaneously why they're all so nuts and why Walter had needed Gary to look after him until now.
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* Its possible this means its treated as a birth defect, which might explain why nobody calls attention to the obvious differences between Walter and Gary, out of a desire not to be insulting. There might also be mental effects, explaining simultaneously why they're all so nuts and why Walter had needed Gary to look after him until now.now.
** Hey now, don't go hating on Fabricated-Americans.
** Hey now, don't go hating on Fabricated-Americans.
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* Jossed. It was Rainbow Connection.
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* Jossed. It was Rainbow "Rainbow Connection." [[HeartwarmingMoment Although the crying part is confirmed.]]
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It is directly stated that Walter and Gary are biological siblings (they also even look related.) I'm putting it out there that Muppetism is a genetic mutation because most Muppet characters are animals hence the mutation is normal for all animal and apparently plants too. So when some of your genes are mutated you do not become a {{Xmen}} but a muppet.
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It is directly stated that Walter and Gary are biological siblings (they also even look related.) I'm putting it out there that Muppetism is a genetic mutation because most Muppet characters are animals hence the mutation is normal for all animal and apparently plants too. So when some of your genes are mutated you do not become a {{Xmen}} but a muppet.muppet.
* Its possible this means its treated as a birth defect, which might explain why nobody calls attention to the obvious differences between Walter and Gary, out of a desire not to be insulting. There might also be mental effects, explaining simultaneously why they're all so nuts and why Walter had needed Gary to look after him until now.
* Its possible this means its treated as a birth defect, which might explain why nobody calls attention to the obvious differences between Walter and Gary, out of a desire not to be insulting. There might also be mental effects, explaining simultaneously why they're all so nuts and why Walter had needed Gary to look after him until now.
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He was a Muppet until then because that's where he was meant to be.
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He was a Muppet until then because that's where he was meant to be.be.
[[WMG: Muppetism is the result of a Genetic Mutation]]
It is directly stated that Walter and Gary are biological siblings (they also even look related.) I'm putting it out there that Muppetism is a genetic mutation because most Muppet characters are animals hence the mutation is normal for all animal and apparently plants too. So when some of your genes are mutated you do not become a {{Xmen}} but a muppet.
[[WMG: Muppetism is the result of a Genetic Mutation]]
It is directly stated that Walter and Gary are biological siblings (they also even look related.) I'm putting it out there that Muppetism is a genetic mutation because most Muppet characters are animals hence the mutation is normal for all animal and apparently plants too. So when some of your genes are mutated you do not become a {{Xmen}} but a muppet.
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*** [[FridgeBrilliance ...which is why the two of them each have half of a picture from the wedding scene of ''Muppets Take Manhattan!'']] Piggy said it counted, Kermit said it didn't, and in the ensuing fight it got torn apart...
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*** Statler and Waldorf don't get a HeelFaceTurn in the movie, but [[spoiler: Uncle Deadly does]].
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They just can't leave out all the good stuff they cut from the plot without us getting to see it, besides there would probably be too many scenes for a Deleted Scenes reel.
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They just can't leave out all the good stuff they cut from the plot without us getting to see it, besides there would probably be too many scenes for a Deleted Scenes reel.reel.
[[WMG: Had Walter chosen "Man" in the "Man or a Muppet" song, he would have become live action]]
He was a Muppet until then because that's where he was meant to be.
[[WMG: Had Walter chosen "Man" in the "Man or a Muppet" song, he would have become live action]]
He was a Muppet until then because that's where he was meant to be.
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[[WMG: Their will be an extended edition on the DVD release.]]
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[[WMG: Their There will be an extended edition on the DVD release.]]
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They just can't leave out all the good stuff they cut from the plot without us getting to see it, besides their would proably be too many scenes for a Deleted Sences reel.
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They just can't leave out all the good stuff they cut from the plot without us getting to see it, besides their there would proably probably be too many scenes for a Deleted Sences Scenes reel.
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They just can't leave out all the good stuff the cut from the plot without us getting to see it, besides their would proably be too many scenes for a Deleted Sences reel.
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They just can't leave out all the good stuff the they cut from the plot without us getting to see it, besides their would proably be too many scenes for a Deleted Sences reel.
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* You can see two sets of (human) hands during the height-measuring sequence. Doesn't rule anything out, though; those may not be their biological parents (at least not both of them).
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* You can see two sets of (human) hands during the height-measuring sequence. Doesn't rule anything out, though; those may not be their biological parents (at least not both of them).them).
[[WMG: Their will be an extended edition on the DVD release.]]
They just can't leave out all the good stuff the cut from the plot without us getting to see it, besides their would proably be too many scenes for a Deleted Sences reel.
[[WMG: Their will be an extended edition on the DVD release.]]
They just can't leave out all the good stuff the cut from the plot without us getting to see it, besides their would proably be too many scenes for a Deleted Sences reel.
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One of Gary and Walter's parents was a muppet and the other was human. Considering Ms. Piggy believes that she and Kermit are biologically compatible (they'd produce tadpoles), it doesn't seem too far-fetched.
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One of Gary and Walter's parents was a muppet and the other was human. Considering Ms. Piggy believes that she and Kermit are biologically compatible (they'd produce tadpoles), it doesn't seem too far-fetched.far-fetched.
* You can see two sets of (human) hands during the height-measuring sequence. Doesn't rule anything out, though; those may not be their biological parents (at least not both of them).
* You can see two sets of (human) hands during the height-measuring sequence. Doesn't rule anything out, though; those may not be their biological parents (at least not both of them).
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** Half-Jossed: They wrote an Elmo cameo in which they try to invite him to the Telethon, but a bunch of lawyers tell them no. And that happened: A bunch of lawyers tell them no, for the movie.
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** Half-Jossed: They wrote an Elmo cameo in which they try to invite him to the Telethon, but a bunch of lawyers tell them no. And that happened: A bunch of lawyers tell them no, for the movie.movie.
[[WMG: Gary and Walter are the product of an InterspeciesRomance]]
One of Gary and Walter's parents was a muppet and the other was human. Considering Ms. Piggy believes that she and Kermit are biologically compatible (they'd produce tadpoles), it doesn't seem too far-fetched.
[[WMG: Gary and Walter are the product of an InterspeciesRomance]]
One of Gary and Walter's parents was a muppet and the other was human. Considering Ms. Piggy believes that she and Kermit are biologically compatible (they'd produce tadpoles), it doesn't seem too far-fetched.
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** However, "Just One Person" did get a shout-out in the dialogue.
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* Then again, there have been cameo appearances by Sesame Street characters in previous Muppet movies (it's assumed that this movie falls within the same continuity as the others) so who knows?
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* Then again, there have been cameo appearances by Sesame Street characters in previous Muppet movies (it's assumed that this movie falls within the same continuity as the others) so who knows?knows?
** Half-Jossed: They wrote an Elmo cameo in which they try to invite him to the Telethon, but a bunch of lawyers tell them no. And that happened: A bunch of lawyers tell them no, for the movie.
** Half-Jossed: They wrote an Elmo cameo in which they try to invite him to the Telethon, but a bunch of lawyers tell them no. And that happened: A bunch of lawyers tell them no, for the movie.
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The Junior Novel version actually has all the scenes from the trailers which went deleted
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[[WMG: The movie takes place in an universe in which SesameStreet doesn't exist.]]
Even if it had been years since the Muppets performed together and the show had been largely forgotten by then, you would think that Kermit would still be at least somewhat recognizable by way of his making semi-regular appearances on Sesame Street.
* Then again, there have been cameo appearances by Sesame Street characters in previous Muppet movies (it's assumed that this movie falls within the same continuity as the others) so who knows?
[[WMG: The movie takes place in an universe in which SesameStreet doesn't exist.]]
Even if it had been years since the Muppets performed together and the show had been largely forgotten by then, you would think that Kermit would still be at least somewhat recognizable by way of his making semi-regular appearances on Sesame Street.
* Then again, there have been cameo appearances by Sesame Street characters in previous Muppet movies (it's assumed that this movie falls within the same continuity as the others) so who knows?
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** Junior novel mentioned that they disbanded after a fight between Kermit and Miss Piggy where they married 'for the show'. They had a staged wedding which Miss Piggy had a real priest run, so they broke up after that fights, which made Kermit depressed and distant.
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*** In the Junior Novel Version, when it's needed just one dollar to save the theater, Statler and Waldorf gave that one dollar after decided Walter's act was worth of it.
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This is why I think Kermit been depressed in the movie is a stroke of genius: Because its explain everything. The Muppets disbanded because Kermit went depressed because Miss Piggy left because Kermit wasn't paying attention to her. Nobody was able to fill up the frog shoes and everything just fell appart. Also explains why some Muppets would be angry at him, why he became a Hollywood recluse and why he has a Hollywood Mansion where he doesn't live on. (It's not his mansion. It's Kermit and Miss Piggy mansion.)
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This is why I think Kermit been depressed in the movie is a stroke of genius: Because its explain everything. The Muppets disbanded because Kermit went depressed because Miss Piggy left because Kermit wasn't paying attention to her. Nobody was able to fill up the frog shoes and everything just fell appart. Also explains why some Muppets would be angry at him, why he became a Hollywood recluse and why he has a Hollywood Mansion where he doesn't live on. (It's not his mansion. It's Kermit and Miss Piggy mansion.))
[[WMG: The movie was made and then somebody told to the producers that the movie has to be 1 hour and half long, forced them to retool the script]]
The Junior Novel version actually has all the scenes from the trailers which went deleted
[[WMG: The movie was made and then somebody told to the producers that the movie has to be 1 hour and half long, forced them to retool the script]]
The Junior Novel version actually has all the scenes from the trailers which went deleted
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Walter does become an official member of The Muppets so he's certainly staying with them and performing with them. Unless something happens to him or there isn't a new show its confirmed.
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Walter does become an official member of The Muppets so he's certainly staying with them and performing with them. Unless something happens to him or there isn't a new show its confirmed.confirmed.
[[WMG: The Muppets disbanded because Kermit went depressed]]
This is why I think Kermit been depressed in the movie is a stroke of genius: Because its explain everything. The Muppets disbanded because Kermit went depressed because Miss Piggy left because Kermit wasn't paying attention to her. Nobody was able to fill up the frog shoes and everything just fell appart. Also explains why some Muppets would be angry at him, why he became a Hollywood recluse and why he has a Hollywood Mansion where he doesn't live on. (It's not his mansion. It's Kermit and Miss Piggy mansion.)
[[WMG: The Muppets disbanded because Kermit went depressed]]
This is why I think Kermit been depressed in the movie is a stroke of genius: Because its explain everything. The Muppets disbanded because Kermit went depressed because Miss Piggy left because Kermit wasn't paying attention to her. Nobody was able to fill up the frog shoes and everything just fell appart. Also explains why some Muppets would be angry at him, why he became a Hollywood recluse and why he has a Hollywood Mansion where he doesn't live on. (It's not his mansion. It's Kermit and Miss Piggy mansion.)
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* Jossed. It was Rainbow Connection.
[[WMG: Waldo S. Graphic will show up in a "sequel."]]
Waldo was a Muppet experiment by Henson: a completely digital Muppet who can be controlled live by an actor. In this day of CG films, you'd think he would be seen today, but his last performance was in the Disney theme park attraction movie Muppet-Vision 3D in the 90's and he has never been used since!
[[WMG: Waldo S. Graphic will show up in a "sequel."]]
Waldo was a Muppet experiment by Henson: a completely digital Muppet who can be controlled live by an actor. In this day of CG films, you'd think he would be seen today, but his last performance was in the Disney theme park attraction movie Muppet-Vision 3D in the 90's and he has never been used since!
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[[WMG: Waldo S. Graphic will show up in a "sequel."]]
Waldo was a Muppet experiment by Henson: a completely digital Muppet who can be controlled live by an actor. In this day of CG films, you'd think he would be seen today, but his last performance was in the Disney theme park attraction movie Muppet-Vision 3D in the 90's and he has never been used since!
* Jossed.
Waldo was a Muppet experiment by Henson: a completely digital Muppet who can be controlled live by an actor. In this day of CG films, you'd think he would be seen today, but his last performance was in the Disney theme park attraction movie Muppet-Vision 3D in the 90's and he has never been used since!
* Jossed.
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[[WMG: If this brings about a new show, Walter will become a new recurring character, thereby moving to Los Angeles and performing as a job.]]
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[[WMG: If this brings about a new show, Walter will become a new recurring character, thereby moving to Los Angeles and performing as a job.]]]]
Walter does become an official member of The Muppets so he's certainly staying with them and performing with them. Unless something happens to him or there isn't a new show its confirmed.
Walter does become an official member of The Muppets so he's certainly staying with them and performing with them. Unless something happens to him or there isn't a new show its confirmed.
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[[WMG: The Muppets will sing "Just One Person" and we will all cry]]
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** Jossed. They don't attempt to save it, but appear pleased to be heckling the Muppets in the ol' theater again.
[[WMG: The Muppets will sing "Just One Person" and we will allcry]]cry.]]
[[WMG: The Muppets will sing "Just One Person" and we will all
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Waldo was a Muppet experiment by Henson: a completely digital Muppet who can be controlled live by an actor. In this day of CG films, you'd think he would be seen today, but his last performance was in the Disney theme park attraction movie Muppet-Vision 3D in the 90's and he has never been used since!
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Waldo was a Muppet experiment by Henson: a completely digital Muppet who can be controlled live by an actor. In this day of CG films, you'd think he would be seen today, but his last performance was in the Disney theme park attraction movie Muppet-Vision 3D in the 90's and he has never been used since!since!
* Jossed.
[[WMG: If this brings about a new show, Walter will become a new recurring character, thereby moving to Los Angeles and performing as a job.]]
* Jossed.
[[WMG: If this brings about a new show, Walter will become a new recurring character, thereby moving to Los Angeles and performing as a job.]]
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*Maybe they think it's so bad, they don't want to stop heckling it?
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The song was one of Henson's favorites, and the Muppets performed it in their tribute special as well as at his memorial service. In the main trailer, Kermit says, "Maybe you don't need the whole world to love you; maybe you just need one person," and later on tells the Muppets he believes in them. This dialogue seems primed to set up the song.
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The song was one of Henson's favorites, and the Muppets performed it in their tribute special as well as at his memorial service. In the main trailer, Kermit says, "Maybe you don't need the whole world to love you; maybe you just need one person," and later on tells the Muppets he believes in them. This dialogue seems primed to set up the song.song.
[[WMG: Waldo S. Graphic will show up in a "sequel."]]
Waldo was a Muppet experiment by Henson: a completely digital Muppet who can be controlled live by an actor. In this day of CG films, you'd think he would be seen today, but his last performance was in the Disney theme park attraction movie Muppet-Vision 3D in the 90's and he has never been used since!
[[WMG: Waldo S. Graphic will show up in a "sequel."]]
Waldo was a Muppet experiment by Henson: a completely digital Muppet who can be controlled live by an actor. In this day of CG films, you'd think he would be seen today, but his last performance was in the Disney theme park attraction movie Muppet-Vision 3D in the 90's and he has never been used since!
