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* Angel Bunny in "She Talks to Angel". We're supposed to feel bad for Fluttershy neglecting him in favour of her other animals in the episode, unfortunately he crosses the line big time by stealing Fluttershy's body (while this wasn't his fault, the fact he uses his newfound self to torment and bully the other creatures) erases most sympathy we would normally have for him. While Angel did have a point about giving time for all of Fluttershy's creatures and [[spoiler: in the series finale "The Last Problem" has apparently passed on]], that doesn't change the fact her almost accidentally killed Fluttershy in his old body, when she tried to help.

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* Angel Bunny in "She Talks to Angel". We're supposed to feel bad for Fluttershy neglecting him in favour of her other animals in the episode, unfortunately he crosses the line big time by stealing Fluttershy's body (while this wasn't his fault, the fact he uses his newfound self to torment and bully the other creatures) erases most sympathy we would normally have for him. While Angel did have a point about giving time for all of Fluttershy's creatures and [[spoiler: in the series finale "The Last Problem" has apparently passed on]], that doesn't change the fact her he almost accidentally killed Fluttershy in his old body, when she tried to help.
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* Angel Bunny in "She Talks to Angel". We're supposed to feel badfor Fluttershy neglecting him in favour of her other animals in the episode, unfortunately he crosses the line big time by stealing Fluttershy's body (while this wasn't his fault, the fact he uses his newfound self to torment and bully the other creatures) erases most sympathy we would normally have for him. While Angel did have a point about giving time for all of Fluttershy's creatures and [[spoiler: in the series finale "The Last Problem" has apparently passed on]], that doesn't change the fact her almost accidentally killed Fluttershy in his old body, when she tried to help.

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* Angel Bunny in "She Talks to Angel". We're supposed to feel badfor bad for Fluttershy neglecting him in favour of her other animals in the episode, unfortunately he crosses the line big time by stealing Fluttershy's body (while this wasn't his fault, the fact he uses his newfound self to torment and bully the other creatures) erases most sympathy we would normally have for him. While Angel did have a point about giving time for all of Fluttershy's creatures and [[spoiler: in the series finale "The Last Problem" has apparently passed on]], that doesn't change the fact her almost accidentally killed Fluttershy in his old body, when she tried to help.
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Starlight didn't know anything beyond what was in the presentation in the opening, and out of the loop in general (not even knowing about the Wonderbolts). There's also a lot of inconstancy with how much about this the general population knows. So putting that debate aside for other reasons Starlight came off this way.


** [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E26TheCutieRemarkPart2 "The Cutie Re-Mark"]] was meant to give Starlight a legitimate FreudianExcuse of her childhood friend Sunburst leaving her due to getting his cutie mark causing Starlight to grow up friendless and resentful, then prove herself redeemable by seeking atonement once convinced of the consequences of her wrongdoing. However this [[FanDislikedExplanation was seen as horribly lacking]] given the severity of her evildoing[[note]]she was a cult leader and kidnapper who [[PowerNullifier stole ponies' Cutie Marks]] and used frighteningly real brainwashing and even borderline torture tactics on her victims and later nearly [[BadFuture doomed Equestria]] by tampering with time as revenge for said cult's destitution[[/note]], Starlight seemingly never trying to stay in touch with with Sunburst, and [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E12CallOfTheCutie Apple Bloom]] and [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E12AmendingFences Moondancer]] having gone through similar without villainy. This, along with it seemingly subverting Starlight's higher functioning and well-intentions, caused many to see her as too selfish and irrational to see her abrupt HeelFaceTurn as legitimate, much less earned. [[note]] She was initially [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom unaware]] that her revenge scheme against the Mane 6 would doom Equestria, but this only furthers the idea of her as a moron and dangerously irrational given the Mane 6's heroism was public knowledge, and [[FridgeLogic her scheme required at least some knowledge of their past.]] [[/note]] The idea of her HeelFaceTurn being driven by [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone genuine remorse over the damage she caused]] is further undercut by how, when shown how she destroys Equestria, she [[NeverMyFault accuses Twilight of trying to trick her]], then goes on to explain her FreudianExcuse, and only relents when Twilight offers an alternative path to making friends, making her ceasing her attacks seem more [[PragmaticVillainy pragmatic]] than altruistic. That Starlight was [[EasilyForgiven immediately forgiven]] by everyone, even the town she enslaved, was seen as undeserved given other former villains had to struggle to be similarly accepted despite less serious crimes.

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** [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E26TheCutieRemarkPart2 "The Cutie Re-Mark"]] was meant to give Starlight a legitimate FreudianExcuse of her childhood friend Sunburst leaving her due to getting his cutie mark causing Starlight to grow up friendless and resentful, then prove herself redeemable by seeking atonement once convinced of the consequences of her wrongdoing. However this [[FanDislikedExplanation was seen as horribly lacking]] given the severity of her evildoing[[note]]she was a cult leader and kidnapper who [[PowerNullifier stole ponies' Cutie Marks]] and used frighteningly real brainwashing and even borderline torture tactics on her victims and later nearly [[BadFuture doomed Equestria]] by tampering with time as revenge for said cult's destitution[[/note]], Starlight seemingly never trying to stay in touch with with Sunburst, and [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E12CallOfTheCutie Apple Bloom]] and [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E12AmendingFences Moondancer]] having gone through similar without villainy. This, along with it seemingly subverting Starlight's higher functioning and well-intentions, caused many to see her as too selfish and irrational to see her abrupt HeelFaceTurn as legitimate, much less earned. [[note]] She That Starlight was initially [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom unaware]] that her revenge scheme against unaware of the Mane 6 would doom Equestria, but this only furthers the idea of her as a moron and dangerously irrational given the Mane 6's heroism apocalyptic consequences]] was public knowledge, and [[FridgeLogic her scheme required at least some knowledge of their past.]] [[/note]] The idea of her HeelFaceTurn being driven by [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone genuine remorse over the damage she caused]] is further undercut by how, when as even after being shown how she destroys Equestria, she [[NeverMyFault accuses Twilight of trying refused to trick her]], then goes on to explain her FreudianExcuse, and only relents when believe it nor showed remorse until Twilight offers an alternative path to making friends, making her ceasing her attacks seem friends made it look like she relented more out of [[PragmaticVillainy pragmatic]] pragmatism]] than altruistic.legitimate [[HeelRealization moral realization]][[note]]Starlight being told how Sunburst's cutie mark lead to all this, allowing Starlight to internalize how her actions caused such harm, only happened after Starlight was displaying her remorse thus wasn't seen as a plausible catalyst for their change of heart[[/note]] (not help by her continued bad decisions in the series afterward). That Starlight was [[EasilyForgiven immediately forgiven]] by everyone, even the town she enslaved, was seen as undeserved given other former villains had to struggle to be similarly accepted despite less serious crimes.
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* Angel Bunny in "She Talks to Angel". We're supposed to feel badfor Fluttershy neglecting him in favour of her other animals in the episode, unfortunately he crosses the line big time by stealing Fluttershy's body (while this wasn't his fault, the fact he uses his newfound self to torment and bully the other creatures) erases most sympathy we would normally have for him. While Angel did have a point about giving time for all of Fluttershy's creatures and [[spoiler: in the series finale "The Last Problem" has apparently passed on]], that doesn't change the fact her almost accidentally killed Fluttershy in his old body, when she tried to help.

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