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* RealitySubtext: Ray's frustration with getting forcibly benched from his own business by Winston and no longer active in the field. It's not hard to see this being just as much about Ray as it is as about Creator/DanAykroyd and how creative control of the franchise he conceived over 40 years ago has now passed to a new generation.

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Ray's frustration with getting forcibly benched from his own business by Winston and no longer active in the field. It's not hard to see this being just as much about Ray as it is as about Creator/DanAykroyd and how creative control of the franchise he conceived over 40 years ago has now passed to a new generation.generation.
** Winston plays a far larger part in this film than in previous entries and is shown to be the one working behind the scenes to keep the Ghostbusters legacy alive. This can be seen as a reflection of Creator/ErnieHudson's frustrations at having Winston having been cut down to a side character in the first two films but also his ardent support of the franchise because he knows how much it means to generations of fans.
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* CreatorBacklash:
** Despite the heavy influence of the animated series on ''Frozen Empire'', ''The Real Ghostbusters'''s story editor Creator/JMichaelStraczynski has [[https://twitter.com/straczynski/status/1747485428041875592?s=20 revealed]] he was never consulted by the filmmakers. If anything, Stracyznski didn't find out about the RGB influences until ''Empire Magazine'' [[https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-inspired-by-the-real-ghostbusters-exclusive/ broke]] the news in the Fall of 2023.
** Creator/MauriceLaMarche (the animated Egon Spengler's voice actor) has likewise [[https://ghostbustersnews.com/2023/11/12/maurice-lamarche-and-j-michael-straczynski-comment-on-ghostbusters-frozen-empire-taking-influence-from-the-real-ghostbusters/ expressed disappointment]] that none of the surviving RGB Cast were contacted or consulted. [=LaMarche=] stated he and his cast mates would gladly have done a cameo (as it would've been fun both for them and the RGB fans).
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* BTeamSequel: Downplayed since Creator/JasonReitman is still one of the film's writers (and producers), but Gil Kenan, who helped write ''Afterlife'', takes over as the director.

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* BTeamSequel: Downplayed since While Creator/JasonReitman is still one of the film's writers (and producers), but Gil Kenan, who helped write ''Afterlife'', takes over as the director.
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* TroubledProduction: Downplayed example with Creator/MckennaGrace. [[https://ew.com/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-mckenna-grace-special-scary-filming-with-original-cast-8613084?utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly_entertainmentweekly&utm_content=manual&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR2CIWmZyjC6JFramWRQTv3akTh-QMRFXf30TJSnxvFol4_sdDAmFNTUC8A According]] to Grace, it was somewhat more difficult (at least for her) to work with the surviving original cast here compared to ''Afterlife''. There, the original actors came in late in the film and were only on set for 2 weeks to shoot the climax. Here, the original cast were on set for about 90% of the shoot. Grace has admitted that while it was fun working with them and hearing their stories, she also felt a little intimidated and worried about screwing up in front of the guys who started this whole thing 40 years ago.
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* ApprovalOfGod: Gil Kenan has [[https://www.cbr.com/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-ivan-reitman-blessing/ confirmed]] that the late Creator/IvanReitman was made aware of the plans for ''Frozen Empire'' before his death in February 2022 (which was 3 months before the sequel was officially announced by Sony). Kenan and Creator/JasonReitman walked the franchise's original Director through their complete pitch and he gave his approval.

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* ApprovalOfGod: Gil Kenan has [[https://www.cbr.com/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-ivan-reitman-blessing/ confirmed]] that the late Creator/IvanReitman was made aware of the plans for ''Frozen Empire'' before his death in February 2022 (which was 3 months before the sequel was officially announced by Sony). Kenan and Creator/JasonReitman walked the franchise's original Director director through their complete pitch pitch, and he gave his approval.



** Creator/BillMurray is again billed higher than Creator/DanAykroyd, despite being the latter having far more screen time and relevance to the plot.

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** Creator/BillMurray is again billed higher than Creator/DanAykroyd, despite being the latter having far more screen time and relevance to the plot.



** Despite the heavy influence of the animated series on ''Frozen Empire'', ''The Real Ghostbusters'''s Story Editor Creator/JMichaelStraczynski has [[https://twitter.com/straczynski/status/1747485428041875592?s=20 revealed]] he was never consulted by the filmmakers. If anything, Stracyznski didn't find out about the RGB influences until ''Empire Magazine'' [[https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-inspired-by-the-real-ghostbusters-exclusive/ broke]] the news in the Fall of 2023.
** Creator/MauriceLaMarche (the animated Egon Spengler's Voice Actor) has likewise [[https://ghostbustersnews.com/2023/11/12/maurice-lamarche-and-j-michael-straczynski-comment-on-ghostbusters-frozen-empire-taking-influence-from-the-real-ghostbusters/ expressed disappointment]] that none of the surviving RGB Cast were contacted or consulted. [=LaMarche=] stated he and his cast mates would gladly have done a cameo (as it would've been fun both for them and the RGB fans).

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** Despite the heavy influence of the animated series on ''Frozen Empire'', ''The Real Ghostbusters'''s Story Editor story editor Creator/JMichaelStraczynski has [[https://twitter.com/straczynski/status/1747485428041875592?s=20 revealed]] he was never consulted by the filmmakers. If anything, Stracyznski didn't find out about the RGB influences until ''Empire Magazine'' [[https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-inspired-by-the-real-ghostbusters-exclusive/ broke]] the news in the Fall of 2023.
** Creator/MauriceLaMarche (the animated Egon Spengler's Voice Actor) voice actor) has likewise [[https://ghostbustersnews.com/2023/11/12/maurice-lamarche-and-j-michael-straczynski-comment-on-ghostbusters-frozen-empire-taking-influence-from-the-real-ghostbusters/ expressed disappointment]] that none of the surviving RGB Cast were contacted or consulted. [=LaMarche=] stated he and his cast mates would gladly have done a cameo (as it would've been fun both for them and the RGB fans).



* DeletedScenes: Gil Kenan's [[https://www.cbr.com/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-director-deleted-scenes/ confirmed]] there ''are'' scenes that were left on the cutting floor, but they're primarily from the Third Act. As of this writing, Kenan hasn't revealed any specific details save that they were cut because they hampered the pacing and lead-up to [[spoiler:Garraka's siege of the Firehouse.]] Kenan hopes to have the Deleted Scenes available for the eventual home video release.

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* DeletedScenes: Gil Kenan's [[https://www.cbr.com/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-director-deleted-scenes/ confirmed]] there ''are'' scenes that were left on the cutting floor, but they're primarily from the Third Act.third act. As of this writing, Kenan hasn't revealed any specific details save that they were cut because they hampered the pacing and lead-up to [[spoiler:Garraka's siege of the Firehouse.]] Kenan hopes to have the Deleted Scenes deleted scenes available for the eventual home video release.



** This influence also extends to the design of the Proton Packs. [[https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-original-cast-who-you-gonna-call-exclusive/?fbclid=IwAR1l25ozDVPfZhmh6Tp1I3cic8eruTpe0NJE5F7CbT4bAQgYQSA2aWgkNGc Photos]] from ''Empire Magazine'' show the Ghost Traps are now moored on the side of the Packs rather than hanging from the utility belts (much like they were in the cartoon).

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** This influence also extends to the design of the Proton Packs.proton packs. [[https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-original-cast-who-you-gonna-call-exclusive/?fbclid=IwAR1l25ozDVPfZhmh6Tp1I3cic8eruTpe0NJE5F7CbT4bAQgYQSA2aWgkNGc Photos]] from ''Empire Magazine'' show the Ghost Traps ghost traps are now moored on the side of the Packs packs rather than hanging from the utility belts (much like they were in the cartoon).



** Slimer is also now haunting the Firehouse, much as his Animated counterpart was in RGB and ''Extreme Ghostbusters''.
* MilestoneCelebration: The film will be released in 2024, forty years after [[Film/Ghostbusters1984 the original film]] (and 35 years after [[Film/GhostbustersII the first sequel]]). As a bonus, it will come in time for the 100th anniversary of Creator/ColumbiaPictures and the 10th anniversary of Creator/HaroldRamis's passing.

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** Slimer is also now haunting the Firehouse, much as his Animated animated counterpart was in RGB and ''Extreme Ghostbusters''.
* MilestoneCelebration: The film will be was released in 2024, forty years after [[Film/Ghostbusters1984 the original film]] (and 35 years after [[Film/GhostbustersII the first sequel]]). As a bonus, it will come in time for the 100th anniversary of Creator/ColumbiaPictures and the 10th anniversary of Creator/HaroldRamis's passing.



* ProductionPosse: Aside from helping Jason Reitman with writing ''Afterlife'', director Gil Kenan and Composer Dario Marianelli previously worked together on ''Film/ABoyCalledChristmas''.

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* ProductionPosse: Aside from helping Jason Reitman with writing ''Afterlife'', director Gil Kenan and Composer composer Dario Marianelli previously worked together on ''Film/ABoyCalledChristmas''.



** John Rothman reprises his role as the Library Administrator, who called the Ghostbusters to investigate back in the first film.

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** Creator/MckennaGrace is once more billed fourth despite playing the main protagonist.
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* RealitySubtext: Ray's frustration with getting forcibly benched from his own business by Winston and no longer active in the field. It's not hard to see this being just as much about Ray as it is as about Creator/DanAykroyd and how creative control of the franchise he conceived over 40 years ago has now passed to a new generation.

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* RoleReprise: Creator/WilliamAtherton reprises his role of Walter Peck from the first film (and also for the first time since voicing Peck for ''VideoGame/GhostbustersTheVideoGame'' in 2009).

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** John Rothman reprises his role as the Library Administrator, who called the Ghostbusters to investigate back in the first film.
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* DeletedScenes: Gil Kenan's [[https://www.cbr.com/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-director-deleted-scenes/ confirmed]] there ''are'' scenes that were left on the cutting floor, but they're primarily from the Third Act. As of this writing, Kenan hasn't revealed any details save that they were cut because they hampered the pacing and lead-up to [[spoiler:Garraka's siege of the Firehouse]]. Kenan hopes to have the Deleted Scenes available for the eventual home video release.

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* DeletedScenes: Gil Kenan's [[https://www.cbr.com/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-director-deleted-scenes/ confirmed]] there ''are'' scenes that were left on the cutting floor, but they're primarily from the Third Act. As of this writing, Kenan hasn't revealed any specific details save that they were cut because they hampered the pacing and lead-up to [[spoiler:Garraka's siege of the Firehouse]]. Firehouse.]] Kenan hopes to have the Deleted Scenes available for the eventual home video release.
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* BTeamSequel: Downplayed since Creator/JasonReitman is still one of the film's writers, but Gil Kenan, who helped write ''Afterlife'', takes over as the director.

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* ProductionPosse: Director Gil Kenan and Composer Dario Marianelli previously worked together on ''Film/ABoyCalledChristmas''.

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* ProductionPosse: Director Aside from helping Jason Reitman with writing ''Afterlife'', director Gil Kenan and Composer Dario Marianelli previously worked together on ''Film/ABoyCalledChristmas''.
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* BillingDisplacement: Patton Oswalt is billed relatively high, given that he's in a single scene.

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** Creator/BillMurray is again billed higher than Creator/DanAykroyd, despite being the latter having far more screen time and relevance to the plot.
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* DeletedScenes: Gil Kenan's [[https://www.cbr.com/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-director-deleted-scenes/ confirmed]] there ''are'' scenes that were left on the cutting floor, but they're primarily from the Third Act. As of this writing, Kenan hasn't revealed any details save that they were cut because they hampered the pacing and lead-up to [[spoiler:Garraka's siege of the Firehouse]]. Kenan hopes to have the Deleted Scenes available for the eventual home video release.
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* ApprovalOfGod: Gil Kenan has [[https://www.cbr.com/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-ivan-reitman-blessing/ confirmed]] that the late Creator/IvanReitman was made aware of the plans for ''Frozen Empire'' before his death in February 2022 (which was 3 months before the sequel was officially announced by Sony). Kenan and Creator/JasonReitman walked the franchise's original Director through their complete pitch and he gave his approval.
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* AwesomeDearBoy: Creator/Pau;Rudd and Creator/CarrieCoon have both [[https://ew.com/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-mckenna-grace-special-scary-filming-with-original-cast-8613084?utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly_entertainmentweekly&utm_content=manual&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR2CIWmZyjC6JFramWRQTv3akTh-QMRFXf30TJSnxvFol4_sdDAmFNTUC8A acknowledged]] how both surreal and awesome it was to not only suit up in the Ghostbusters costumes and equipment, but to actually share scenes and act opposite comedic legends.

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* AwesomeDearBoy: Creator/Pau;Rudd Creator/PaulRudd and Creator/CarrieCoon have both [[https://ew.com/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-mckenna-grace-special-scary-filming-with-original-cast-8613084?utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly_entertainmentweekly&utm_content=manual&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR2CIWmZyjC6JFramWRQTv3akTh-QMRFXf30TJSnxvFol4_sdDAmFNTUC8A acknowledged]] how both surreal and awesome it was to not only suit up in the Ghostbusters costumes and equipment, but to actually share scenes and act opposite comedic legends.

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* CreatorBacklash: Despite the heavy influence of the animated series on ''Frozen Empire'', ''The Real Ghostbusters'''s Story Editor Creator/JMichaelStraczynski has [[https://twitter.com/straczynski/status/1747485428041875592?s=20 revealed]] he was never consulted by the filmmakers. If anything, Stracyznski didn't find out about the RGB influences until ''Empire Magazine'' [[https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-inspired-by-the-real-ghostbusters-exclusive/ broke]] the news in the Fall of 2023.

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Despite the heavy influence of the animated series on ''Frozen Empire'', ''The Real Ghostbusters'''s Story Editor Creator/JMichaelStraczynski has [[https://twitter.com/straczynski/status/1747485428041875592?s=20 revealed]] he was never consulted by the filmmakers. If anything, Stracyznski didn't find out about the RGB influences until ''Empire Magazine'' [[https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-inspired-by-the-real-ghostbusters-exclusive/ broke]] the news in the Fall of 2023.
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* AwesomeDearBoy: Creator/PauRudd and Creator/CarrieCoon have both [[https://ew.com/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-mckenna-grace-special-scary-filming-with-original-cast-8613084?utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly_entertainmentweekly&utm_content=manual&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR2CIWmZyjC6JFramWRQTv3akTh-QMRFXf30TJSnxvFol4_sdDAmFNTUC8A acknowledged how both surreal and awesome it was to not only suit up in the Ghostbusters costumes and equipment, but to actually share scenes and act opposite comedic legends.

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* AwesomeDearBoy: Creator/PauRudd Creator/Pau;Rudd and Creator/CarrieCoon have both [[https://ew.com/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-mckenna-grace-special-scary-filming-with-original-cast-8613084?utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly_entertainmentweekly&utm_content=manual&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR2CIWmZyjC6JFramWRQTv3akTh-QMRFXf30TJSnxvFol4_sdDAmFNTUC8A acknowledged acknowledged]] how both surreal and awesome it was to not only suit up in the Ghostbusters costumes and equipment, but to actually share scenes and act opposite comedic legends.
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* AwesomeDearBoy: Creator/PauRudd and Creator/CarrieCoon have both [[https://ew.com/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-mckenna-grace-special-scary-filming-with-original-cast-8613084?utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly_entertainmentweekly&utm_content=manual&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR2CIWmZyjC6JFramWRQTv3akTh-QMRFXf30TJSnxvFol4_sdDAmFNTUC8A acknowledged how both surreal and awesome it was to not only suit up in the Ghostbusters costumes and equipment, but to actually share scenes and act opposite comedic legends.
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* TroubledProduction: Downplayed example. [[https://ew.com/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-mckenna-grace-special-scary-filming-with-original-cast-8613084?utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly_entertainmentweekly&utm_content=manual&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR2CIWmZyjC6JFramWRQTv3akTh-QMRFXf30TJSnxvFol4_sdDAmFNTUC8A According]] to Creator/GraceKenna, it was somewhat more difficult to work with the surviving original cast here compared to ''Afterlife''. There, the OGs came in late in the film and were only on set for 2 weeks to shoot the climax. Here, the original cast were on set for about 90%. McKenna's admitted while it was fun working with them and hearing their stories, she also felt a little intimidated and worried about screwing up in front of the guys who started this whole thing 40 years ago.

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* TroubledProduction: Downplayed example.example with Creator/MckennaGrace. [[https://ew.com/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-mckenna-grace-special-scary-filming-with-original-cast-8613084?utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly_entertainmentweekly&utm_content=manual&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR2CIWmZyjC6JFramWRQTv3akTh-QMRFXf30TJSnxvFol4_sdDAmFNTUC8A According]] to Creator/GraceKenna, Grace, it was somewhat more difficult (at least for her) to work with the surviving original cast here compared to ''Afterlife''. There, the OGs original actors came in late in the film and were only on set for 2 weeks to shoot the climax. Here, the original cast were on set for about 90%. McKenna's 90% of the shoot. Grace has admitted that while it was fun working with them and hearing their stories, she also felt a little intimidated and worried about screwing up in front of the guys who started this whole thing 40 years ago.
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* TroubledProduction: Downplayed example. [[https://ew.com/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-mckenna-grace-special-scary-filming-with-original-cast-8613084?utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly_entertainmentweekly&utm_content=manual&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR2CIWmZyjC6JFramWRQTv3akTh-QMRFXf30TJSnxvFol4_sdDAmFNTUC8A According]] to Creator/GraceKenna, it was somewhat more difficult to work with the surviving original cast here compared to ''Afterlife''. There, the OGs came in late in the film and were only on set for 2 weeks to shoot the climax. Here, the original cast were on set for about 90%. McKenna's admitted while it was fun working with them and hearing their stories, she also felt a little intimidated and worried about screwing up in front of the guys who started this whole thing 40 years ago.
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* DawsonCasting: Creator/EmilyAlynLind, who was around 21 when the movie was filmed, plays the eternally 16-year-old ghost girl Melody.
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* RealLifeWritesThePlot: The absence of Creator/SigourneyWeaver following her ''Afterlife'' cameo and the continued absence of Creator/RickMoranis since ''Ghostbusters II''. [[https://www.cbr.com/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-director-louis-dana/ According]] to Gil Kenan, the absence of Weaver was due to feeling there was just no story for Dana Barrett in ''Frozen Empire'' (on top of the film already being crowded enough with the old and new cast). Louis Tully's absence similarly seems to be a combination of that factor and the continuing status of Moranis' declination to come out of retirement and return to the franchise for ''Afterlife'' (or the 2016 reboot).

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* RealLifeWritesThePlot: The absence of Creator/SigourneyWeaver following her ''Afterlife'' cameo and the continued absence of Creator/RickMoranis since ''Ghostbusters II''. [[https://www.cbr.com/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-director-louis-dana/ According]] to Gil Kenan, the Weaver's absence of Weaver was due to the production team feeling there was just no story for Dana Barrett in ''Frozen Empire'' (on top of the film already being crowded enough with the old and new cast). According to Kenan, they likewise had no plans for Louis Tully's absence similarly seems to be a combination of that factor and Tully from the beginning (and even if they had, there's Moranis's continuing status of Moranis' declination to come out of retirement and return to the franchise for ''Afterlife'' (or or the 2016 reboot).
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* DuellingWorks: With ''Film/GodzillaXKongTheNewEmpire'' - another sci-fi action adventure film with "Empire" in the title and which deals with the titular characters going up against an ice-themed villain - which released a week after this one.
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* RealLifeWritesThePlot: The absence of Creator/SigourneyWeaver following her ''Afterlife'' cameo and the continued absence of Creator/RickMoranis since ''Ghostbusters II''. [[https://www.cbr.com/ghostbusters-frozen-empire-director-louis-dana/ According]] to Gil Kenan, the absence of Weaver was due to feeling there was just no story for Dana Barrett in ''Frozen Empire'' (on top of the film already being crowded enough with the old and new cast). Louis Tully's absence similarly seems to be a combination of that factor and the continuing status of Moranis' declination to come out of retirement and return to the franchise for ''Afterlife'' (or the 2016 reboot).
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* ProductionPosse: Director Gil Kenan and Composer Dario Marianelli previously worked together on ''Film/ABoyCalledChristmas''.
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** Creator/MauriceLaMarche (the animated Egon Spengler's Voice Actor) has likewise expressed disappointment that none of the surviving RGB Cast were contacted or consulted. [=LaMarche=] stated he and his cast mates would gladly have done a cameo (as it would've been fun both for them and the RGB fans).

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** Creator/MauriceLaMarche (the animated Egon Spengler's Voice Actor) has likewise [[https://ghostbustersnews.com/2023/11/12/maurice-lamarche-and-j-michael-straczynski-comment-on-ghostbusters-frozen-empire-taking-influence-from-the-real-ghostbusters/ expressed disappointment disappointment]] that none of the surviving RGB Cast were contacted or consulted. [=LaMarche=] stated he and his cast mates would gladly have done a cameo (as it would've been fun both for them and the RGB fans).
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** Creator/MauriceLaMarche (the animated Egon Spengler's Voice Actor) has likewise expressed disappointment that none of the surviving RGB Cast were contacted or consulted. LaMarche stated he and his cast mates would gladly have done a cameo (as it would've been fun both for them and the RGB fans).

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** Creator/MauriceLaMarche (the animated Egon Spengler's Voice Actor) has likewise expressed disappointment that none of the surviving RGB Cast were contacted or consulted. LaMarche [=LaMarche=] stated he and his cast mates would gladly have done a cameo (as it would've been fun both for them and the RGB fans).

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