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* The tough guy who takes over Eddie's pool hall and potentially his KnowledgeBroker racket after [[spoiler:after Eddie's murder]] is never seen again. If he'd also taken over Eddie's contacts with Thunder Mountain, this could have kept the KnowledgeBroker information gathering in future episodes and provided for some interesting and tense interactions with Jeremiah and Kurdy due to the pool hall's new boss being an unknown factor to them and his potential concerns about ending up dead like Eddie.]]
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* Villainous OldSoldier Major Quantrell (Creator/MichaelRooker) from "Firewall" is probably the most interesting Valhalla Sector loyalist in the show by far. He has a richly bitter dynamic and BackStory with Markus and the other original Thunder Mountain survivors, being the former executive officer of the base, who abandoned them and is willing to kill them in the present and ends up as their DefiantCaptive. He also knows Jeremiah's father Devon and Ezekiel from his time at Raven Rock and is heavily implied to have bad blood with them (at least on their side) that is never fully explored. Consequently, it can be disappointing that he only gets one appearance.

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* Villainous OldSoldier Major Quantrell (Creator/MichaelRooker) from "Firewall" is probably the most interesting Valhalla Sector loyalist in the show by far. He has a richly bitter dynamic and BackStory with Markus and the other original Thunder Mountain survivors, being the former executive officer of the base, who abandoned them and is willing to kill them in the present and ends up as their DefiantCaptive.DefiantCaptive (which could have made him an EvilCounterpart to Meghan, another secluded, older resident of the base). He also knows Jeremiah's father Devon and Ezekiel from his time at Raven Rock and is heavily implied to have bad blood with them (at least on their side) that is never fully explored. Consequently, it can be disappointing that he only gets one appearance.
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* Michael from "The Ground, Sown with Salt", is a frightening FauxAffablyEvil GodhoodSeeker and WastelandWarlord who has an arsenal of military weapons (including missiles), a DarkAndTroubledPast, and an interesting but ultimately unhealthy relationship with his pregnant MoralityPet. He is a more interesting villain than most of the Valhalla Sector and Army of Daniel characters, but he still only gets one episode.
* Julie, Michael's girlfriend from "And the Ground, Sown with Salt". Her desire to atone for staying loyal to to the psychopathic Michael for so long, being pregnant with his child, and having some SilkHidingSteel ActionGirl moments could have made her an interesting member of the Thunder Mountain community, but instead she is written out of the show with a HeroicSacrifice in her debut episode.

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* Michael from "The Ground, Ground … Sown with Salt", is a frightening FauxAffablyEvil GodhoodSeeker and WastelandWarlord who has an arsenal of military weapons (including missiles), a DarkAndTroubledPast, and an interesting but ultimately unhealthy relationship with his pregnant MoralityPet. He is a more interesting villain than most of the Valhalla Sector and Army of Daniel characters, but he still only gets one episode.
* Julie, Michael's girlfriend from "And the Ground, Ground … Sown with Salt". Her desire to atone for staying loyal to to the psychopathic Michael for so long, being pregnant with his child, and having some SilkHidingSteel ActionGirl moments could have made her an interesting member of the Thunder Mountain community, but instead she is written out of the show with a HeroicSacrifice in her debut episode.
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* Valhalla Sector collaborator Davis and his lieutenants from "Strange Attractors" seem to get a MookCarryOver after the Western Alliance runs then out of Millhaven and they talk about joining the Army of Daniel. Their knowledge of Millhaven (which Jeremiah is put in charge of running) and feud with the main cast could have made them interesting recurring Sims subordinates, but they are never seen again.

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* WickedCultured FauxAffablyEvil Valhalla Sector collaborator Davis and his lieutenants from "Strange Attractors" seem to get a MookCarryOver after the Western Alliance runs then out of Millhaven and they talk about joining the Army of Daniel. Their knowledge of Millhaven (which Jeremiah is put in charge of running) and feud with the main cast could have made them interesting recurring Sims subordinates, but they are never seen again.
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* BunnyEarsLawyer Wylie from "Things Left Unsaid Part 2" is a hilarious but surprisingly ingenious character who solves the various mysteries of season 1 and then seemingly escapes from a trap where Jeremiah is captured. He could have become a big part of the Western Alliance in season 2, helping with the opening RescueArc and transition into fighting Daniel, but instead he's never seen again.

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* BunnyEarsLawyer Wylie from "Things Left Unsaid Part 2" is a hilarious but surprisingly ingenious character who solves the various mysteries of season 1 and then seemingly escapes from a trap where Jeremiah is captured. He could have become a big part of the Western Alliance in season 2, 2 (especially given how Jeremiah moves to Wylie’s hometown) helping with the opening RescueArc and transition into fighting Daniel, but instead he's never seen again.

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* Julie, Michael’s girlfriend from "And the Ground, Sown with Salt". Her desire to atone for staying loyal to to the psychopathic Michael for so long, being pregnant with his child, and having some SilkHidingSteel ActionGirl moments could have made her an interesting member of the Thunder Mountain community, but instead she is written out of the show with a HeroicSacrifice in her debut episode.

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* Julie, Michael’s Michael's girlfriend from "And the Ground, Sown with Salt". Her desire to atone for staying loyal to to the psychopathic Michael for so long, being pregnant with his child, and having some SilkHidingSteel ActionGirl moments could have made her an interesting member of the Thunder Mountain community, but instead she is written out of the show with a HeroicSacrifice in her debut episode.


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* Farralon from "City of Roses" is a (possibly self-trained) young scientist who is working on a vaccine for the Big Death (which includes getting volunteers sick with milder forms of the disease to test their reactions). He is working for the Valhalla Sector but was in communication with Simon, who trusted him enough to tell him about [[HiddenElfVillage Thunder Mountain]]. Farralon could have either been developed as an UnwittingPawn of the Valhalla Sector who got a HeelFaceTurn or someone who knew exactly what he was doing and used the Thunder Mountain colony's trust in him to strike at the faction. Instead, he disappears after "City of Roses" except for a short flashback scene.


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* "Journeys End at Lovers Meeting" features an unnamed town leader who is committed to the survival of his town during a hard winter and is fairly resourceful (he got two cars working) but is also a {{Jerkass}} and TheSocialDarwinist, with a us-vs.-them mindset that makes him a VillainOfTheWeek. He could have been a good DistaffCounterpart to Theo and either joined Daniel in season 2 or had some interesting TeethClenchedTeamwork with Jeremiah and Kurdy if he joined the Western Alliance, but he remains a OneShotCharacter.

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* Superhero fanboy John/Captain Iron from "Man of Iron, Woman Under Glass" is an adorably earnest kid who never grew up and does have some genuinely useful BunnyEarsLawyer talents and accomplishments. He was also kidnapped and experimented on by the Valhalla Sector at one point and is deeply traumatized by the very mention of them. He had the potential to be a good semi-regular, but [[spoiler:dies in his first episode without it even being related to the Valhalla Sector]].

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* Superhero fanboy John/Captain Iron from "Man of Iron, Woman Under Glass" is an adorably earnest kid who never grew up and does have some genuinely useful BunnyEarsLawyer talents and accomplishments. He was also kidnapped and experimented on by the Valhalla Sector at one point and is deeply traumatized by the very mention of them. He had the potential to be a good semi-regular, but [[spoiler:dies dies in his first episode without it even being related to the Valhalla Sector]].Sector.



* Julie, Michael’s girlfriend from "And the Ground, Sown with Salt". Her desire to atone for staying loyal to to the psychopathic Michael for so long, being pregnant with his child, and having some SilkHidingSteel ActionGirl moments could have made her an interesting member of the Thunder Mountain community, [[spoiler:but instead she is written out of the show with a HeroicSacrifice in her debut episode]].
* Some fans dislike how HeroOfAnotherStory characters KnowledgeBroker Eddie and HeroicBystander William from "To Sail Beyond the Stars" don't become recurring sources of information about the world outside Thunder Mountain.With his KnowledgeBroker business of finding people across the country, his tracking of Valhalla Sector-related atrocities, and his interest in seeing civilization return, Eddie had the potential to recur throughout the whole series.

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* Julie, Michael’s girlfriend from "And the Ground, Sown with Salt". Her desire to atone for staying loyal to to the psychopathic Michael for so long, being pregnant with his child, and having some SilkHidingSteel ActionGirl moments could have made her an interesting member of the Thunder Mountain community, [[spoiler:but but instead she is written out of the show with a HeroicSacrifice in her debut episode]].
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* Some fans dislike how HeroOfAnotherStory characters KnowledgeBroker Eddie and HeroicBystander William from "To Sail Beyond the Stars" don't become recurring sources of information about the world outside Thunder Mountain. With his KnowledgeBroker business of finding people across the country, his tracking of Valhalla Sector-related atrocities, and his interest in seeing civilization return, Eddie had the potential to recur throughout the whole series.



* Libby is introduced as an accomplished scientist and loyal friend to Devon (who is trying to undermine the Valhalla Sector from within). However, after the fall of the Valhalla Sector, she doesn't exert any scientific expertise or leadership skills and merely serves as a SatelliteLoveInterest [[spoiler:and LoveInterestTraitor who dies without ever being confronted by Jeremiah and before her real motivations can be explored]] during a time where the plot had more than enough going on to let her do something more dynamic. Her status as the only female character to ever be in the opening credits (albeit only for half of season 2) makes her limited role in the plot all the more notable.

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* Libby is introduced as an accomplished scientist and loyal friend to Devon (who is trying to undermine the Valhalla Sector from within). However, after the fall of the Valhalla Sector, she doesn't exert any scientific expertise or leadership skills and merely serves as a SatelliteLoveInterest [[spoiler:and and LoveInterestTraitor who dies without ever being confronted by Jeremiah and before her real motivations can be explored]] explored during a time where the plot had more than enough going on to let her do something more dynamic. Her status as the only female character to ever be in the opening credits (albeit only for half of season 2) makes her limited role in the plot all the more notable.

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** Superhero fanboy John/Captain Iron from "Man of Iron, Woman Under Glass" is an adorably earnest kid who never grew up and does have some genuinely useful BunnyEarsLawyer talents and accomplishments. He was also kidnapped and experimented on by the Valhalla Sector at one point and is deeply traumatized by the very mention of them. He had the potential to be a good semi-regular, but [[spoiler:dies in his first episode without it even being related to the Valhalla Sector]].
** Michael from "The Ground, Sown with Salt", is a frightening FauxAffablyEvil GodhoodSeeker and WastelandWarlord who has an arsenal of military weapons (including missiles), a DarkAndTroubledPast, and an interesting but ultimately unhealthy relationship with his pregnant MoralityPet. He is a more interesting villain than most of the Valhalla Sector and Army of Daniel characters, but he still only gets one episode.
** Julie, Michael’s girlfriend from "And the Ground, Sown with Salt". Her desire to atone for staying loyal to to the psychopathic Michael for so long, being pregnant with his child, and having some SilkHidingSteel ActionGirl moments could have made her an interesting member of the Thunder Mountain community, [[spoiler:but instead she is written out of the show with a HeroicSacrifice in her debut episode]].
** Some fans dislike how HeroOfAnotherStory characters KnowledgeBroker Eddie and HeroicBystander William from "To Sail Beyond the Stars" don't become recurring sources of information about the world outside Thunder Mountain.With his KnowledgeBroker business of finding people across the country, his tracking of Valhalla Sector-related atrocities, and his interest in seeing civilization return, Eddie had the potential to recur throughout the whole series.
** Villainous OldSoldier Major Quantrell (Creator/MichaelRooker) from "Firewall" is probably the most interesting Valhalla Sector loyalist in the show by far. He has a richly bitter dynamic and BackStory with Markus and the other original Thunder Mountain survivors, being the former executive officer of the base, who abandoned them and is willing to kill them in the present and ends up as their DefiantCaptive. He also knows Jeremiah’s father Devon and Ezekiel from his time at Raven Rock and is heavily implied to have bad blood with them (at least on their side) that is never fully explored.
Consequently, it can be disappointing that he only gets one appearance.
** Michelle from "The Mother of Invention" is the leader of a non-hostile community and has a rich history with Jeremiah (who may be the father of her son), but is only in one episode and doesn't even appear during later meetings of faction leaders.
** BunnyEarsLawyer Wylie from "Things Left Unsaid Part 2" is a hilarious but surprisingly ingenious character who solves the various mysteries of season 1 and then seemingly escapes from a trap where Jeremiah is captured. He could have become a big part of the Western Alliance in season 2, helping with the opening RescueArc and transition into fighting Daniel, but instead he's never seen again.
** Libby is introduced as an accomplished scientist and loyal friend to Devon (who is trying to undermine the Valhalla Sector from within). However, after the fall of the Valhalla Sector, she doesn't exert any scientific expertise or leadership skills and merely serves as a SatelliteLoveInterest [[spoiler:and LoveInterestTraitor who dies without ever being confronted by Jeremiah and before her real motivations can be explored]] during a time where the plot had more than enough going on to let her do something more dynamic. Her status as the only female character to ever be in the opening credits (albeit only for half of season 2) makes her limited role in the plot all the more notable.
** Valhalla Sector collaborator Davis and his lieutenants from "Strange Attractors" seem to get a MookCarryOver after the Western Alliance runs then out of Millhaven and they talk about joining the Army of Daniel. Their knowledge of Millhaven (which Jeremiah is put in charge of running) and feud with the main cast could have made them interesting recurring Sims subordinates, but they are never seen again.

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** The show is full of well-acted characters with interesting stories that feel incomplete given the limited main and recurring cast.
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Superhero fanboy John/Captain Iron from "Man of Iron, Woman Under Glass" is an adorably earnest kid who never grew up and does have some genuinely useful BunnyEarsLawyer talents and accomplishments. He was also kidnapped and experimented on by the Valhalla Sector at one point and is deeply traumatized by the very mention of them. He had the potential to be a good semi-regular, but [[spoiler:dies in his first episode without it even being related to the Valhalla Sector]].
** * Michael from "The Ground, Sown with Salt", is a frightening FauxAffablyEvil GodhoodSeeker and WastelandWarlord who has an arsenal of military weapons (including missiles), a DarkAndTroubledPast, and an interesting but ultimately unhealthy relationship with his pregnant MoralityPet. He is a more interesting villain than most of the Valhalla Sector and Army of Daniel characters, but he still only gets one episode.
** * Julie, Michael’s girlfriend from "And the Ground, Sown with Salt". Her desire to atone for staying loyal to to the psychopathic Michael for so long, being pregnant with his child, and having some SilkHidingSteel ActionGirl moments could have made her an interesting member of the Thunder Mountain community, [[spoiler:but instead she is written out of the show with a HeroicSacrifice in her debut episode]].
** * Some fans dislike how HeroOfAnotherStory characters KnowledgeBroker Eddie and HeroicBystander William from "To Sail Beyond the Stars" don't become recurring sources of information about the world outside Thunder Mountain.With his KnowledgeBroker business of finding people across the country, his tracking of Valhalla Sector-related atrocities, and his interest in seeing civilization return, Eddie had the potential to recur throughout the whole series.
** * Villainous OldSoldier Major Quantrell (Creator/MichaelRooker) from "Firewall" is probably the most interesting Valhalla Sector loyalist in the show by far. He has a richly bitter dynamic and BackStory with Markus and the other original Thunder Mountain survivors, being the former executive officer of the base, who abandoned them and is willing to kill them in the present and ends up as their DefiantCaptive. He also knows Jeremiah’s father Devon and Ezekiel from his time at Raven Rock and is heavily implied to have bad blood with them (at least on their side) that is never fully explored.
explored. Consequently, it can be disappointing that he only gets one appearance.
** * One of the last flashbacks in "Firewall" shows Markus taking charge of lots of children of the original Cheyenne/Thunder Mountain personnel in the aftermath of the Big Death, but during the main series, most if not all of Markus's named allies are people who started out elsewhere and were brought to the facility later. Their reactions to their old protector turned enemy Major Quantrell returning in "Firewall" and Markus hiding Meaghan's existence from them are never shown. Furthermore, some of these kids were young enough for Markus to have a PromotionToParent role in their upbringing, providing another reason to lament how they only have background roles in the present.
* Kwame, the leader of the Crescent Shadows black militant group, is a wary but ultimately reasonable potential recruit to TheAlliance in his debut but, like so many similar characters, never reappears. It would have been especially interesting seeing him take a role in the Western Alliance and work to find a balance between doing the right thing for everyone and preserving the culture and values of his community while joining a government with white and interracial groups.
* Some people are surprised about how Erin's estranged twin sister Lauren doesn't show up in season 2 after she and Erin had some neat interactions together and began to reconcile after a long estrangement in Lauren's debut and how the emergence of Thunder Mountain and its alliance-building would give Lauren more reasons to seek out Erin again and more information about how to find her.
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Michelle from "The Mother of Invention" is the leader of a non-hostile community and has a rich history with Jeremiah (who may be the father of her son), but is only in one episode and doesn't even appear during later meetings of faction leaders.
** * BunnyEarsLawyer Wylie from "Things Left Unsaid Part 2" is a hilarious but surprisingly ingenious character who solves the various mysteries of season 1 and then seemingly escapes from a trap where Jeremiah is captured. He could have become a big part of the Western Alliance in season 2, helping with the opening RescueArc and transition into fighting Daniel, but instead he's never seen again.
** * Libby is introduced as an accomplished scientist and loyal friend to Devon (who is trying to undermine the Valhalla Sector from within). However, after the fall of the Valhalla Sector, she doesn't exert any scientific expertise or leadership skills and merely serves as a SatelliteLoveInterest [[spoiler:and LoveInterestTraitor who dies without ever being confronted by Jeremiah and before her real motivations can be explored]] during a time where the plot had more than enough going on to let her do something more dynamic. Her status as the only female character to ever be in the opening credits (albeit only for half of season 2) makes her limited role in the plot all the more notable.
** * Valhalla Sector collaborator Davis and his lieutenants from "Strange Attractors" seem to get a MookCarryOver after the Western Alliance runs then out of Millhaven and they talk about joining the Army of Daniel. Their knowledge of Millhaven (which Jeremiah is put in charge of running) and feud with the main cast could have made them interesting recurring Sims subordinates, but they are never seen again.
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** Superhero fanboy John/Captain Iron from "Man of Iron, Woman Under Glass" is an adorably earnest kid who never grew up and does have some genuinely useful BunnyEarsLawyer talents and accomplishments. He was also kidnapped and experimented on by the Valhalla Sector at one point and is deeply traumatized by the very mention of them. He had the potential to be a good semi-regular, but [[spoiler:dies in his first episode without it even being related to the Valhalla Sector]].
** Michael from "The Ground, Sown with Salt", is a frightening FauxAffablyEvil GodhoodSeeker and WastelandWarlord who has an arsenal of military weapons (including missiles), a DarkAndTroubledPast, and an interesting but ultimately unhealthy relationship with his pregnant MoralityPet. He is a more interesting villain than most of the Valhalla Sector and Army of Daniel characters, but he still only gets one episode.
** Julie, Michael’s girlfriend from "And the Ground, Sown with Salt". Her desire to atone for staying loyal to to the psychopathic Michael for so long, being pregnant with his child, and having some SilkHidingSteel ActionGirl moments could have made her an interesting member of the Thunder Mountain community, [[spoiler:but instead she is written out of the show with a HeroicSacrifice in her debut episode]].
** Some fans dislike how HeroOfAnotherStory characters KnowledgeBroker Eddie and HeroicBystander William from "To Sail Beyond the Stars" don't become recurring sources of information about the world outside Thunder Mountain.With his KnowledgeBroker business of finding people across the country, his tracking of Valhalla Sector-related atrocities, and his interest in seeing civilization return, Eddie had the potential to recur throughout the whole series.
** Villainous OldSoldier Major Quantrell (Creator/MichaelRooker) from "Firewall" is probably the most interesting Valhalla Sector loyalist in the show by far. He has a richly bitter dynamic and BackStory with Markus and the other original Thunder Mountain survivors, being the former executive officer of the base, who abandoned them and is willing to kill them in the present and ends up as their DefiantCaptive. He also knows Jeremiah’s father Devon and Ezekiel from his time at Raven Rock and is heavily implied to have bad blood with them (at least on their side) that is never fully explored.
Consequently, it can be disappointing that he only gets one appearance.
** Michelle from "The Mother of Invention" is the leader of a non-hostile community and has a rich history with Jeremiah (who may be the father of her son), but is only in one episode and doesn't even appear during later meetings of faction leaders.
** BunnyEarsLawyer Wylie from "Things Left Unsaid Part 2" is a hilarious but surprisingly ingenious character who solves the various mysteries of season 1 and then seemingly escapes from a trap where Jeremiah is captured. He could have become a big part of the Western Alliance in season 2, helping with the opening RescueArc and transition into fighting Daniel, but instead he's never seen again.
** Libby is introduced as an accomplished scientist and loyal friend to Devon (who is trying to undermine the Valhalla Sector from within). However, after the fall of the Valhalla Sector, she doesn't exert any scientific expertise or leadership skills and merely serves as a SatelliteLoveInterest [[spoiler:and LoveInterestTraitor who dies without ever being confronted by Jeremiah and before her real motivations can be explored]] during a time where the plot had more than enough going on to let her do something more dynamic. Her status as the only female character to ever be in the opening credits (albeit only for half of season 2) makes her limited role in the plot all the more notable.
** Valhalla Sector collaborator Davis and his lieutenants from "Strange Attractors" seem to get a MookCarryOver after the Western Alliance runs then out of Millhaven and they talk about joining the Army of Daniel. Their knowledge of Millhaven (which Jeremiah is put in charge of running) and feud with the main cast could have made them interesting recurring Sims subordinates, but they are never seen again.

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