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* ''ComicBook/TheBooksOfMagic'': Tim Hunter gives one towards Death in issue 16 of ''Hunter: The Age of Magic'' in response to being told that he must accept Yo-Yo's imminent demise and that there's nothing he can do about it.
-->'''Tim:''' You evil scheming little bitch! It's always the same, isn't it? You turn up, chatting about nothing-- drop in a few cute little sayings...and then you smile and take away my mother or my father or someone else I happen to care about. You're a bloody ''fake''. You bring nothing but pain. And one day, I'll find a way to destroy you.
-->'''Tim:''' You evil scheming little bitch! It's always the same, isn't it? You turn up, chatting about nothing-- drop in a few cute little sayings...and then you smile and take away my mother or my father or someone else I happen to care about. You're a bloody ''fake''. You bring nothing but pain. And one day, I'll find a way to destroy you.
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'''Batman:''' No, Basil. I've been silent too long. Let you go on your way. Hoped you'd listen to the voice inside. But I see now. [[EmptyShell There is no voice inside.]]\\
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'''Batman:''' No, Basil. I've been silent too long. Let you go on your way. Hoped you'd listen to the voice inside. But I see now. [[EmptyShell [[TheSociopath There is no voice inside.]]\\
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*** The climactic battle between Diana and Circe from the same issue has the two of them trading both physical blows and cutting tirades. Circe mocks Diana for a naive fool who doesn't see that HumansAreBastards while Diana claims that Circe is only terrified of imagining a world of peace, love and inequality because she's spent the entirety of her life scaring away anyone that loved her.
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*** The climactic battle between Diana and Circe from the same issue has the two of them trading both physical blows and cutting tirades. Circe mocks Diana for a naive fool who doesn't see that HumansAreBastards while Diana claims that Circe is only terrified of imagining a world of peace, love and inequality equality because she's spent the entirety of her life scaring away anyone that loved her.
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** Penguin gives an epic one to Batman, outlining that he is a NecessaryEvil and that he has always been the one in control of Gotham.
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* ''ComicBook/BatmanBeyondRebirth'': At the end of "The Long Payback", Terry rebukes Dr. Gray Stanton, who took up his son Kenny's mantle of Payback after his son committed suicide because he blames Batman for his son's death, on how it is actually his own fault that his son killed himself.
-->'''Gray Stanton:''' This can't end now! Not until you've ''paid''!\\
'''Terry:''' ''You're'' the one who's paying, Stanton! You're paying for all the times your own son was begging for attention...even as you ''ignored'' him. ''You're'' the one who drove him to hopelessness. Forced him into a pit of despair so deep that he took his own life. Now you get to live with that for the rest of your life.
-->'''Gray Stanton:''' This can't end now! Not until you've ''paid''!\\
'''Terry:''' ''You're'' the one who's paying, Stanton! You're paying for all the times your own son was begging for attention...even as you ''ignored'' him. ''You're'' the one who drove him to hopelessness. Forced him into a pit of despair so deep that he took his own life. Now you get to live with that for the rest of your life.
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'''Max:''' ''Understand''?! [[ShutUpHannibal I understand you're warped]], just as ''warped'' as ''Shriek'''...or ''Clayface'', or any of the ''other'' crackwits who've tried to hurt or kill people in this city over the years! You created ''Undercloud''-- a collective of hackers-- as a ''scam'' to make money to finance buying the ''key pieces'' of those Metal Men, then turned them into a ''killing machine''! All those people who ''joined'' you to fight against the "''system''", all those people who had ''no intention'' of hurting ''anyone'', but who you made ''accomplices''... [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood Do you know how much real]] ''[[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood good]]'' [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood you could have done]], with the ''skills'' of those people at your fingertips? You could have made ''real'' progress towards the change you talk about, but you just wanted to put on a ''show''. You wanted to feel ''powerful''...when all you are is just another ''crazy criminal''!
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'''Max:''' ''Understand''?! [[ShutUpHannibal I understand you're warped]], just as ''warped'' as ''Shriek'''...''Shriek''...or ''Clayface'', or any of the ''other'' crackwits who've tried to hurt or kill people in this city over the years! You created ''Undercloud''-- a collective of hackers-- as a ''scam'' to make money to finance buying the ''key pieces'' of those Metal Men, then turned them into a ''killing machine''! All those people who ''joined'' you to fight against the "''system''", all those people who had ''no intention'' of hurting ''anyone'', but who you made ''accomplices''... [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood Do you know how much real]] ''[[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood good]]'' [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood you could have done]], with the ''skills'' of those people at your fingertips? You could have made ''real'' progress towards the change you talk about, but you just wanted to put on a ''show''. You wanted to feel ''powerful''...when all you are is just another ''crazy criminal''!
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'''Max:''' ''Understand''?! [[ShutUpHannibal I understand you're warped]], just as ''warped'' as ''Shriek'''...or ''Clayface'', or any of the ''other'' crackwits who've tried to hurt or kill people in this city over the years!\\
You created ''Undercloud''-- a collective of hackers-- as a ''scam'' to make money to finance buying the ''key pieces'' of those Metal Men, then turned them into a ''killing machine''! All those people who ''joined'' you to fight against the "''system''", all those people who had ''no intention'' of hurting ''anyone'', but who you made ''accomplices''... [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood Do you know how much real]] ''[[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood good]]'' [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood you could have done]], with the ''skills'' of those people at your fingertips? You could have made ''real'' progress towards the change you talk about, but you just wanted to put on a ''show''. You wanted to feel ''powerful''...when all you are is just another ''crazy criminal''!
You created ''Undercloud''-- a collective of hackers-- as a ''scam'' to make money to finance buying the ''key pieces'' of those Metal Men, then turned them into a ''killing machine''! All those people who ''joined'' you to fight against the "''system''", all those people who had ''no intention'' of hurting ''anyone'', but who you made ''accomplices''... [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood Do you know how much real]] ''[[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood good]]'' [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood you could have done]], with the ''skills'' of those people at your fingertips? You could have made ''real'' progress towards the change you talk about, but you just wanted to put on a ''show''. You wanted to feel ''powerful''...when all you are is just another ''crazy criminal''!
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'''Max:''' ''Understand''?! [[ShutUpHannibal I understand you're warped]], just as ''warped'' as ''Shriek'''...or ''Clayface'', or any of the ''other'' crackwits who've tried to hurt or kill people in this city over the years!\\
years! You created ''Undercloud''-- a collective of hackers-- as a ''scam'' to make money to finance buying the ''key pieces'' of those Metal Men, then turned them into a ''killing machine''! All those people who ''joined'' you to fight against the "''system''", all those people who had ''no intention'' of hurting ''anyone'', but who you made ''accomplices''... [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood Do you know how much real]] ''[[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood good]]'' [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood you could have done]], with the ''skills'' of those people at your fingertips? You could have made ''real'' progress towards the change you talk about, but you just wanted to put on a ''show''. You wanted to feel ''powerful''...when all you are is just another ''crazy criminal''!
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* ''ComicBook/BatmanBeyond'': The "Undercloud" arc ends with Max rebuking Rebel One after her scheme of using the Metal Men to raze Gotham City is thwarted.
-->'''Rebel One:''' NO! What are they ''doing''? What are they ''doing''?!\\
'''Max:''' They're trying to save ''lives'', Rebel! Lives ''you'' put on the line to make a stupid ''point''!\\
'''Rebel One:''' It's a point that ''somebody'' had to make, Max! Otherwise, things are only going to get ''worse''! We live in a society where the rich ''literally'' rise above the poor! Their feet ''never'' have to touch the ground! How long before families like ''mine'' are pushed underground and we're all just ''slaves'' to those who live ''above us''?! And don't think ''your'' family will be fine, up there in the ''twenties''...the rich will just rise ''higher'' and ''higher'', and all the levels ''below'' will be pushed ''down''! I hoped you might ''understand'' and--\\
'''Max:''' ''Understand''?! [[ShutUpHannibal I understand you're warped]], just as ''warped'' as ''Shriek'''...or ''Clayface'', or any of the ''other'' crackwits who've tried to hurt or kill people in this city over the years!\\
You created ''Undercloud''-- a collective of hackers-- as a ''scam'' to make money to finance buying the ''key pieces'' of those Metal Men, then turned them into a ''killing machine''! All those people who ''joined'' you to fight against the "''system''", all those people who had ''no intention'' of hurting ''anyone'', but who you made ''accomplices''... [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood Do you know how much real]] ''[[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood good]]'' [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood you could have done]], with the ''skills'' of those people at your fingertips? You could have made ''real'' progress towards the change you talk about, but you just wanted to put on a ''show''. You wanted to feel ''powerful''...when all you are is just another ''crazy criminal''!
-->'''Rebel One:''' NO! What are they ''doing''? What are they ''doing''?!\\
'''Max:''' They're trying to save ''lives'', Rebel! Lives ''you'' put on the line to make a stupid ''point''!\\
'''Rebel One:''' It's a point that ''somebody'' had to make, Max! Otherwise, things are only going to get ''worse''! We live in a society where the rich ''literally'' rise above the poor! Their feet ''never'' have to touch the ground! How long before families like ''mine'' are pushed underground and we're all just ''slaves'' to those who live ''above us''?! And don't think ''your'' family will be fine, up there in the ''twenties''...the rich will just rise ''higher'' and ''higher'', and all the levels ''below'' will be pushed ''down''! I hoped you might ''understand'' and--\\
'''Max:''' ''Understand''?! [[ShutUpHannibal I understand you're warped]], just as ''warped'' as ''Shriek'''...or ''Clayface'', or any of the ''other'' crackwits who've tried to hurt or kill people in this city over the years!\\
You created ''Undercloud''-- a collective of hackers-- as a ''scam'' to make money to finance buying the ''key pieces'' of those Metal Men, then turned them into a ''killing machine''! All those people who ''joined'' you to fight against the "''system''", all those people who had ''no intention'' of hurting ''anyone'', but who you made ''accomplices''... [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood Do you know how much real]] ''[[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood good]]'' [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood you could have done]], with the ''skills'' of those people at your fingertips? You could have made ''real'' progress towards the change you talk about, but you just wanted to put on a ''show''. You wanted to feel ''powerful''...when all you are is just another ''crazy criminal''!
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** Issue 31 had Hardware fight Edwin Alva while giving an earful over what a manipulative dirtbag he is.
-->'''Hardware:''' I looked up to you, Edwin. I worshiped the ground you walked on. I wanted to be like you. So I remade myself into your image. I turned my back on my friends, my family, my values, myself...and in return for my devotion, you ''used'' me. And ''used'' me. And ''used'' me. Until you used me up. But I'm nothing special. That's standard operating procedure for you. You prey on this city, only ''pretending'' to give back to it. You've discarded your own wives and children when they weren't of use to you anymore. And you ''always'' win. Except for ''today''. When you put on the suit, you stopped playing your game and started playing ''mine''. Just because you can manipulate me doesn't mean you've got your own *** together.
-->'''Hardware:''' I looked up to you, Edwin. I worshiped the ground you walked on. I wanted to be like you. So I remade myself into your image. I turned my back on my friends, my family, my values, myself...and in return for my devotion, you ''used'' me. And ''used'' me. And ''used'' me. Until you used me up. But I'm nothing special. That's standard operating procedure for you. You prey on this city, only ''pretending'' to give back to it. You've discarded your own wives and children when they weren't of use to you anymore. And you ''always'' win. Except for ''today''. When you put on the suit, you stopped playing your game and started playing ''mine''. Just because you can manipulate me doesn't mean you've got your own *** together.
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-->'''Wise Son:''' You think ''money'' is the answer to ''everything''? You're nothing but a slave to the dollar. Nothing but a slave to Mr. Alva. Nothing but a slave. You know what a slave is, don't you? I mean, you are a ''black'' man in there, right?
-->'''Wise Son:''' You think ''money'' is the answer to ''everything''? You're nothing but a slave to the dollar. Nothing but a slave to Mr. Alva. Nothing but a slave. You know what a slave is, don't you? I mean, you are a ''black'' man in there, right?
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--> '''Batman:''' When your wife became ill, she wanted a dignified end. You ''robbed'' her of that! You stole time from her. Did you even '''try''' to get her out of the ice?[…] She deserved better. You didn't want to share her with the world ''ever''. [[SecretlySelfish You put her in the ice for you, not for her. And there was never a way out, was there?]]
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--> '''Clayface:''' You're one of '''those''' directors. You don't help other people. You don't value the art. You don't see what I see. I hate you, Mr. Director. ''[[[SlasherSmile grins]]]'' [[PreMortemOneLiner I was hoping you'd be last.]]
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--> '''Clayface:''' You think I've hurt innocent people, Batman, but spend one moment [[UsefulNotes/LosAngeles here]] and you'll- you'll see the '''''truth!''''' They only ''look'' innocent because they've taken classes on it! There are no friends here, Batman! No community! Just stepping stones! Little fish gobbling up everything smaller! This place deserves me, Batman! Don't you understand that yet?! It ''deserves me!''\\
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--> '''Max:''' [[MistreatmentInducedBetrayal You didn't give a shit about any of us, Oswald.]] We were with you from the beginning. I begged you to give me a piece of the action, to let me make something out of myself. You ''never'' gave me a ''shot''.\\
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--> '''Penguin:''' Let me tell you something, Batman. It was ''never'' about ''you''. You always thought you were the one keeping the balance between control and chaos in Gotham. But ''I'' ran the crime in this city. What every good businessman understands is that one's business can '''never''' become obsolete. So I supplied the tools of the trade to Joker, and Riddler, and Scarecrow… but I never supplied them so ''much'', or so ''well'', that in the end you couldn't prevail. I would make my bank, and trade would continue at a… well, a rate "acceptable" to the police and the populace. Statistically, our crime rate was ''lower'' than Metropolis. '''I did that!''' But you got arrogant, Batman. You started believing you really were the savior of this city, and not just one piece of a bigger conglomerate. ''My'' conglomerate. And then along comes [[VilerNewVillain Umbrella Man]], [[NoNonsenseNemesis who has no interest in playing "theater" with you and your rogues gallery. Who doesn't care about "balance".]] And now, Batman, you're useless. So turn around. Walk away. [[BadGuysDoTheDirtyWork Let me deal with Umbrella Man.]]\\
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--> '''Dinah Lance:''' Stop. I said ''stop''. Ollie, I didn't come here for any answers or explanations. [[RejectedApology And I certainly didn't come for any more of your apologies]]. You've always found a way to put things between us. Now, this glass is making it literally true.\\
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-->'''Roy Harper:''' Are you friggin' kidding me? You're in jail—big deal. Look at me, Ollie. Look at Me! I lost my arm. Prometheus maimed me, but none of it even registers because she's gone. Lian's dead My… My… …My little girl.\\
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