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** Noting that the historical record shows Helen disappeared partway through the Trojan War but that her disappearance did not change the course of the war itself, and being unwilling to force her back into a life she hates, Zari still returns her to her own time, but in a place far away from Troy.
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** Noting that the historical record shows Helen disappeared partway through the Trojan War but that her disappearance it did not change the course of the war itself, and being unwilling to force her back into a life she hates, Zari still returns her Helen to her own time, but in a place far away from Troy.
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** Played straight when Helen calls the heroes out for wanting to take her back to place she's vehemently doesn't want to return. Luckily, Zari can find a loop hole.
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** Played straight when Helen calls the heroes out for wanting to take her back to a place she's she vehemently doesn't want to return. return to. Luckily, Zari can find a loop hole.loophole.
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: Both Helen of Troy and probably the Trojan War itself never actually existed in real life and are purely elements of [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Greek mythology]], most notably in the poems of Creator/{{Homer}}.
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* DentedIron: Stein is an old man, and superheroics are taking a toll on him, which is another reason why he wants to leave the ''Waverider''. While Jax's mind is in his body, we learn for the first time that Stein has arthritis, and is also prone to frequent urination.
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* RealityEnsues: Stein is an old man, and superheroics are taking a toll on him, which is another reason why he wants to leave the ''Waverider''. While Jax's mind is in his body, we learn for the first time that Stein has arthritis, and is also prone to frequent urination.
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* BlessedWithSuck: Helen ''hates'' being the WorldsMostBeautifulWoman because it causes men to fight to the death all around her.
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* ADayInTheLimelight: For a Stein-body Firestorm, a chance for the soon-departing Victor Garber to be part of the action in a powered capacity.
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* ADayInTheLimelight: Firestorm taking on Stein's body, a chance for the soon-departing Victor Garber to be part of the action in a powered capacity.
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* ADayInTheLimelight: For a Stein-body Firestorm, a chance for the soon-departing Victor Garber to be part of the action in a powered capacity.
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** The Hollywood studio they visit is Creator/WarnerBros, producers of the show. We even get a nice, lingering shot of [[WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}} the water tower]] as the episode starts.
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** The Hollywood studio they visit is Creator/WarnerBros, producers of the show. We even get a nice, lingering shot of [[WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}} the water tower]] as the episode starts. The title card even has the 1990s era "Time Warner Entertainment" byline (back then most of Time Warner's non-print assets were in a joint venture with phone company US West, hence the slightly different nomenclature; this got dropped after the AOL merger and the JV was dissolved in 2003 after Comcast, who inherited the stake via various mergers, sold it back to TW).
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* AsHerself: An in-universe example, Helen is immediately cast as herself after wandering onto the set.
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* AsHerself: AsHimself: An in-universe example, Helen is immediately cast as herself after wandering onto the set.
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* DistractedByTheSexy: The men on the Warner Bros. studio set either bumped into someone or crashed into something all because they're mesmerized by Helen of Troy. The men of the ''Waverider'' crew are likewise not immune. Averted with any women in her vicinity (even Sara, despite her bisexuality), which gives Zari the idea to drop Helen off on [[LadyLand Themyscira, island of the Amazons.]]
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* DistractedByTheSexy: The men on the Warner Bros. studio set either bumped into someone or crashed into something all because they're mesmerized by Helen of Troy. The men of the ''Waverider'' crew are likewise not immune. Averted with any women in her vicinity (even Sara, despite her bisexuality), which gives Zari the idea to drop Helen off on [[LadyLand Themyscira, island of the Amazons.]]Amazons]].
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* DullSurprise: Eleanor and The Legends' reaction to Jax and Stein's body swap is very bland. Averted with Nate and Darhk [[ActuallyPrettyFunny who laugh their asses off at the situation]].
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* DullSurprise: Eleanor and The Legends' reaction to Jax and Stein's body swap is very bland. Averted with On the other hand, Nate and Darhk [[ActuallyPrettyFunny who laugh their asses off at the situation]].
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* GeekyTurnOn: Turns out Stein has a crush on Creator/HedyLamarr, both a talented actress and inventor.
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* GeekyTurnOn: Turns out Stein has a crush on Creator/HedyLamarr, both a talented actress and inventor.
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** When Jax and Stein fuse to restore themselves, the resulting Firestorm has Stein's face and dominant mind. Stein was the main Firestorm (instead of an "advisor" mind) during the nineties.
** At the end of the episode Zari takes Helen to Themyscira, home of the Amazons and ComicBook/WonderWoman.
** At the end of the episode Zari takes Helen to Themyscira, home of the Amazons and ComicBook/WonderWoman.
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** When Jax and Stein fuse merge to restore themselves, the resulting Firestorm has Stein's face and dominant mind. Stein was the main Firestorm (instead of an "advisor" mind) during the nineties.
** At the end of the episode Zari takes Helen to Themyscira, home of the Amazons andComicBook/WonderWoman.Franchise/WonderWoman.
** At the end of the episode Zari takes Helen to Themyscira, home of the Amazons and
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** The Hollywood studio they visit is Creator/WarnerBros, producers of the show. We even get a nice, lingering shot of [[WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}} the water tower]] as the episode starts.
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The Legends travel to UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfHollywood to retrieve a time misplaced Helen of Troy. Things get complicated when they run into the Cult of Mallus.
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* AmazonBrigade: Sarah, Amaya and Zari teaming up to take down a bunch of goons with guns.
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** Sarah, Amaya and Zari teaming up to take down a bunch of goons with guns.
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* AppleOfDiscord: Appropriately enough, Helen is this, her beauty inspires aggressive jealousy in all men who see her, leading nonexistent to minor conflicts to escalate into wars. [[SoBeautifulItsACurse Helen laments this]], and abhors the prospect of being sent back to Troy.
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* AppleOfDiscord: Appropriately enough, Helen is this, her this. Her beauty inspires aggressive jealousy in all men who see her, leading nonexistent to minor conflicts to escalate into wars. [[SoBeautifulItsACurse Helen laments this]], and abhors the prospect of being sent back to Troy.
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* DistractedByTheSexy: The men on the Warner Bros. studio set either bumped into someone or crashed into something all because they're mesmerized by Helen of Troy. The men of the Waverider crew are likewise not immune. Averted with any women in her vicinity (even Sara, despite her bisexuality), which gives Zari the idea to drop Helen off on [[LadyLand Themyscira, island of the Amazons.]]
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* DistractedByTheSexy: The men on the Warner Bros. studio set either bumped into someone or crashed into something all because they're mesmerized by Helen of Troy. The men of the Waverider ''Waverider'' crew are likewise not immune. Averted with any women in her vicinity (even Sara, despite her bisexuality), which gives Zari the idea to drop Helen off on [[LadyLand Themyscira, island of the Amazons.]]
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* DullSurprise: Eleanor & The Legends' reaction to Jax & Stein's body swap is very bland. Averted with Nate & Darhk [[ActuallyPrettyFunny who laugh their asses off at the situation]].
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* DullSurprise: Eleanor & and The Legends' reaction to Jax & and Stein's body swap is very bland. Averted with Nate & and Darhk [[ActuallyPrettyFunny who laugh their asses off at the situation]].
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* ExactWords: Darhk said he wouldn't use ''his'' magic in his duel with Sara. Eleanor on the other hand...
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* HollywoodScience: If actual history is any indication, someone else would have ended up discovering the same principles that Hedy Lamarr invented, either at almost the same time or, at the very worst, within a few decades. It's almost never accurate to call anybody "the person who invented X;" more correct would be to say that they are "the person who invented X ''first.''"
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** During his duel with Sara, Dahrk agrees not to use magic. His OWN magic that is; Eleanor using her magic to stop Sara from killing Dahrk is still fair game.
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* MundaneSolution: Hedy's solution for dealing with the body swap: have Jax & Stein merge to become Firestorm. This was actually suggested by Jax earlier, but rejected by Stein.
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* MundaneSolution: Hedy's solution for dealing with the body swap: have Jax & and Stein merge to become Firestorm. This was actually suggested by Jax earlier, but rejected by Stein.
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* NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent: In real life, Hedy [=LaMarr=] was from Austria and spoke with an Austrian accent. Here, Celia Massingham uses an American accent for the role [[note]]Though the actress herself is Australian[[/note]].
** Helen's accent is far from Greek, too, even after she gives up the pretense of being a Hollywood actress. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in that previous episodes have established that time-travel sometimes causes you to speak the language of the time and place you end up.
** Helen's accent is far from Greek, too, even after she gives up the pretense of being a Hollywood actress. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in that previous episodes have established that time-travel sometimes causes you to speak the language of the time and place you end up.
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* NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent: NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent:
** In real life, Hedy [=LaMarr=] was from Austria and spoke with an Austrian accent. Here, Celia Massingham uses an American accent for the role[[note]]Though (though the actress herself is Australian[[/note]].
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** Helen's accent is far from Greek, too, even after she gives up the pretense of being a Hollywood actress.[[JustifiedTrope Justified]] {{Justified|Trope}} in that previous episodes have established that time-travel sometimes causes you to speak the language of the time and place you end up.
** In real life, Hedy [=LaMarr=] was from Austria and spoke with an Austrian accent. Here, Celia Massingham uses an American accent for the role
** Helen's accent is far from Greek, too, even after she gives up the pretense of being a Hollywood actress.
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* PassingTheTorch: Stein is more than ready to give up his part of the Firestorm Matrix to Jax as he is weary of being on the Waverider.
* RealityEnsues: Stein is an old man, and superheroics are taking a toll on him, which is another reason why he wants to leave the Waverider. While Jax's mind is in his body, we learn for the first time that Stein has arthritis, and is also prone to frequent urination.
* RealityEnsues: Stein is an old man, and superheroics are taking a toll on him, which is another reason why he wants to leave the Waverider. While Jax's mind is in his body, we learn for the first time that Stein has arthritis, and is also prone to frequent urination.
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* PassingTheTorch: Stein is more than ready to give up his part of the Firestorm Matrix to Jax as he is weary of being on the Waverider.
''Waverider''.
* RealityEnsues: Stein is an old man, and superheroics are taking a toll on him, which is another reason why he wants to leave theWaverider.''Waverider''. While Jax's mind is in his body, we learn for the first time that Stein has arthritis, and is also prone to frequent urination.
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** HollywoodScience: If actual history is any indication, someone else would have ended up discovering the same principles that Hedy Lamarr invented, either at almost the same time or, at the very worst, within a few decades. It's almost never accurate to call anybody "the person who invented X;" more correct would be to say that they are "the person who invented X ''first.''"
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* TakeThat: When Hedy Lamarr mistakes him for a talent agent, Darhk states "I'm something far more ruthless than a Hollywood agent. If that's possible."
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** When Hedy Lamarr mistakes him for a talent agent, Darhk states "I'm something far more ruthless than a Hollywood agent. If that's possible."
** When Hedy Lamarr mistakes him for a talent agent, Darhk states "I'm something far more ruthless than a Hollywood agent. If that's possible."
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* WhamShot: We see where Zari takes Helen at the end of the episode--[[Franchise/WonderWoman Themyscira]].
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* WhamShot: We see where Zari takes Helen at the end of the episode--[[Franchise/WonderWoman episode -- [[Franchise/WonderWoman Themyscira]].
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** Cecil B. [=DeMille=] runs into Ray and remarks on Ray's appearance, and offers him a possible starring role that Cary Grant turned down. Christopher Reeve based his performance as Clark Kent in his Superman movies from Grant's performance in ''BringingUpBaby'', meaning Brandon Routh did the same in ''SupermanReturns''.
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** Cecil B. [=DeMille=] runs into Ray and remarks on Ray's appearance, and offers him a possible starring role that Cary Grant turned down. Christopher Reeve based his performance as Clark Kent in his Superman movies from Grant's performance in ''BringingUpBaby'', ''Bringing Up Baby'', meaning Brandon Routh did the same in ''SupermanReturns''.''Superman Returns''.
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Nothing to do about learning from genre convention.
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* GenreSavvy: Darhk offers the Legends a deal: if they give up time travel and go back to 2017, he'll let them live. Mick doesn't even consider it, recognizing Darhk wouldn't make the offer if he wouldn't get something out of it, and he'll just kill them all anyway.
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* YouAreGrounded: Sara towards Mick, Nate and Ray after they started a fight over Helen.
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* YouAreGrounded: Sara towards Mick, Nate and Ray after they started a fight over Helen.Helen.
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* AsHerself: An in-universe example, Helen is immediately cast as herself after wandering onto the set.
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* MeaningfulName: The episode title is both literal (hunting for Helen of Troy) and the [[Creator/HelenHunt prolific actress of the same name]], alluding to its Hollywood setting.
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** Cecil B. [=DeMille=] runs into Ray and remarks on Ray's appearance, and offers him a possible starring role that Cary Grant turned down. Christopher Reeve based his performance as Clark Kent in his Superman movies from Grant's performance in ''BringingUpBaby'', meaning Brandon Routh did the same in ''SupermanReturns''.
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** Noting that the historical record shows Helen disappeared partway through the Trojan War but that her disapperance did not change the course of the war itself, and being unwilling to force her back into a life she hates, Zari still returns her to her own time, but in a place far away from Troy.
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** Noting that the historical record shows Helen disappeared partway through the Trojan War but that her disapperance disappearance did not change the course of the war itself, and being unwilling to force her back into a life she hates, Zari still returns her to her own time, but in a place far away from Troy.Troy.
* MaybeMagicMaybeMundane: The fact that Helen's beauty entrances every single man who sees her and ''only'' men (Sara barely gives her a second glance) implies that she might have some supernatural ability to charm men that she is unaware of. It's never examined in depth.
* MaybeMagicMaybeMundane: The fact that Helen's beauty entrances every single man who sees her and ''only'' men (Sara barely gives her a second glance) implies that she might have some supernatural ability to charm men that she is unaware of. It's never examined in depth.
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* TemptingFate: Helen comments that at least in Hollywood men are killing each other over her. Seconds later two studios get into a gunfight over her.
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* TemptingFate: Helen comments that at least in Hollywood Hollywood, men are aren't killing each other over her. Seconds later later, two studios get into a gunfight over her.
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* MeaningfulEcho: "Sometimes you have to be crazy if you want to burn bright."
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* BadassGrandpa: [=FireStein=] bests the Dahrks, each of whom have until now been untouchable in unrestricted combat.
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Like she said, she's cursed, and that was already the case.
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* TheDulcineaEffect: Helen has this on literally every man she meets, implied to be courtesy of Damien Darhk's dark magic
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* TheDulcineaEffect: Helen has this on literally every man she meets, implied to be courtesy of Damien Darhk's dark magicmeets.
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* MaybeMagicMaybeMundane: It's never explicitly stated if it really is just Helen's looks that cause men to swoon over her regardless of the temporal setting, or if something higher is at play. However considering any man loses any control in her vicinity and literally come to blows at a drop of a hat, or gunfire without hesitation. It leans heavily on the latter.
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* TakeThat: When Hedy Lamarr mistakes him for a talent agent, Darhk states "I'm something far worse than a Hollywood agent. If that's possible."
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* TakeThat: When Hedy Lamarr mistakes him for a talent agent, Darhk states "I'm something far worse more ruthless than a Hollywood agent. If that's possible."
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* DistractedByTheSexy: The men on the Warner Bros. studio set either bumped into someone or crashed into something all because they're mesmerized by Helen of Troy. The men of the Waverider crew are likewise not immune. Averted with any women in her vicinity (even Sara, despite her bisexuality) which gives Zari the idea to drop Helen [[LadyLand off on Themyscira.]]
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* DistractedByTheSexy: The men on the Warner Bros. studio set either bumped into someone or crashed into something all because they're mesmerized by Helen of Troy. The men of the Waverider crew are likewise not immune. Averted with any women in her vicinity (even Sara, despite her bisexuality) bisexuality), which gives Zari the idea to drop Helen off on [[LadyLand off on Themyscira.Themyscira, island of the Amazons.]]
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* SoBeautifulItsACurse: Helen, who is horribly distraught about the fact that men always start killing each other over her.
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* SoBeautifulItsACurse: Helen, who is quite literally. She's horribly distraught about the fact that men always start killing each other over her.
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* DistractedByTheSexy: The men on the Warner Bros. studio set either bumped into someone or crashed into something all because they're mesmerized by Helen of Troy. The men of the Waverider crew are likewise not immune. Averted with any women in her vincinity which gives Zari the idea to drop Helen [[LadyLand off on Themyscira.]]
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* DistractedByTheSexy: The men on the Warner Bros. studio set either bumped into someone or crashed into something all because they're mesmerized by Helen of Troy. The men of the Waverider crew are likewise not immune. Averted with any women in her vincinity vicinity (even Sara, despite her bisexuality) which gives Zari the idea to drop Helen [[LadyLand off on Themyscira.]]
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* AppleOfDiscord: Appropriately enough, Helen is this, her beauty inspires aggressive jealousy in all men who see her, leading nonexistent to minor conflicts escalating into wars. [[SoBeautifulItsACurse Helen laments this]], and abhors the prospect of being sent back to Troy.
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* AppleOfDiscord: Appropriately enough, Helen is this, her beauty inspires aggressive jealousy in all men who see her, leading nonexistent to minor conflicts escalating to escalate into wars. [[SoBeautifulItsACurse Helen laments this]], and abhors the prospect of being sent back to Troy.
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The Legends travel to the GoldenAgeOfHollywood to retrieve a time misplaced Helen of Troy. Things get complicated when they run into the Cult of Mallus.
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* {{Flynning}}: Sara and Damien's duel. Fitting for an episode in the GoldenAgeOfHollywood.
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* {{Flynning}}: Sara and Damien's duel. Fitting for an episode in the GoldenAgeOfHollywood.UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfHollywood.
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* DistractedByTheSexy: The men on the Warner Bros. studio set either bumped into someone or crashed into something all because they're mesmerized by Helen of Troy. The men of the Waverider crew are likewise not immune. Averted with any women in her vincinity which gives Zari the idea [[spoiler: to drop Helen [[LadyLand off on Themyscira.]]]]
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* DistractedByTheSexy: The men on the Warner Bros. studio set either bumped into someone or crashed into something all because they're mesmerized by Helen of Troy. The men of the Waverider crew are likewise not immune. Averted with any women in her vincinity which gives Zari the idea [[spoiler: to drop Helen [[LadyLand off on Themyscira.]]]] ]]