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* KnightTemplar[=/=]HeWhoFightsMonsters: Payback. While his targets do generally tend to be {{Jerkass}}es, he definitely employs ''extremely'' DisproportionateRetribution against them.

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* KnightTemplar[=/=]HeWhoFightsMonsters: KnightTemplar: Payback. While his targets do generally tend to be {{Jerkass}}es, he definitely employs ''extremely'' DisproportionateRetribution against them.
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Your Cheating Heart is not a trope anymore


* YourCheatingHeart: Another of Payback's targets is the boyfriend of one of the counselor's patients because he was seeing another woman.

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* DramaticIrony: When Batman calls out Payback for taking things too far in targeting the "villains" on behalf of teenagers, Payback angrily retorts: "You have no idea how kids think!" - Batman of course, is a teenager himself. It also [[{{Foreshadowing}} foreshadows]] Payback's true identity.

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* DramaticIrony: DramaticIrony:
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When Batman calls out Payback for taking things too far in targeting the "villains" on behalf of teenagers, Payback angrily retorts: "You have no idea how kids think!" - Batman of course, is a teenager himself. It also [[{{Foreshadowing}} foreshadows]] Payback's true identity.



* MiniMecha: "Payback" is really a young boy piloting a suit that resembles a large adult man.

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* MiniMecha: "Payback" is really actually a young boy piloting a suit that resembles a large adult man.


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* RememberTheNewGuy: Apparently, the start of the episode wasn't Payback's first appearance, and Terry and Bruce have been tracking him for a while now.


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* YourCheatingHeart: Another of Payback's targets is the boyfriend of one of the counselor's patients because he was seeing another woman.
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* NightmareFuel: Even at his age, Bruce Wayne still has nightmares about his parents' death.
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Bruce was just being his usual hard-ass self, as he thought Terry lashing out about him was a performance, being visibly annoyed when Terry tells him he wasn’t.


* BatmanGambit: After Terry repeatedly fails to catch Payback on his own, Bruce takes over and helps Terry pull off a classic gambit: he has Terry lash out and complain about him during a session at the Youth Counseling Center while also casually mentioning his plans for that evening. As expected, this causes Payback to target Bruce as his victim that night, allowing Batman to show up and intercept him.
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* AdultFear: The fear that not only have you neglected to spend time with your child, but to the point where said-child go to [[KnightTemplar too far]] in their quest to spend time with you. Oh, and they may possibly be sent to jail for their act.

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* AdultFear: The fear that not only have you neglected to spend time with your child, but to the point where said-child go to [[KnightTemplar goes too far]] in their quest to spend time with you. Oh, and they may possibly be sent to jail for their act.



* CastAsAMask: Payback is voiced by Bill Faggerback he also shared a voice actor with Carl Lewis.

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* CastAsAMask: Payback is voiced by Bill Faggerback he Faggerback. He also shared a voice actor with Carl Lewis.
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* CastAsAMask: Payback is voiced by Bill Faggerback he also shared a voice actor with *RedHerring: Carl Lewis.

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* CastAsAMask: Payback is voiced by Bill Faggerback he also shared a voice actor with *RedHerring: Carl Lewis.
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* CastAsAMask: Payback is voiced by Bill Faggerback he also shared a voice actor with *RedHerring: Carl Lewis.
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* ImprovisedWeapon: Payback's laser whip is actually a laser cutter used by Howard Stanton for cutting metal to make sculptures.
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** When he targets Bruce, Payback introduces himself as "Your worst nightmare". As the original owner of that moniker, Bruce retorts "You don't ''know'' what my nightmares are like..."
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* AdultFear: The fear that not only have you neglected to spend time with your child, but to the point where said-child go to [[KnightTemplar too far]] in their quest to spend time with you. Oh, and they may possibly be sent to jail for their act.

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* TheReveal: Terry initially assumes that Dr. Stanton's librarian Howard is Payback since he matches the vigilante's deep voice and imposing physique. However, Payback actually turns out to be Kenny, Dr. Stanton's young son.



* TheReveal: Terry initially assumes that Dr. Stanton's librarian Howard is Payback since he matches the vigilante's deep voice and imposing physique. However, Payback actually turns out to be Kenny, Dr. Stanton's young son.
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* FelonyMisdemeanor: The "villains" that Payback targets, since their only "crimes" are harassing and mistreating the teenagers from the Youth Center.

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* FelonyMisdemeanor: The "villains" jerks that Payback targets, since their only "crimes" crimes are harassing and mistreating the teenagers from the Youth Center.Center. Reprehensible, sure, but not the sort of thing you kill for.



* KnightTemplar / HeWhoFightsMonsters: Payback. While his targets do generally tend to be {{Jerkass}}es, he definitely employs ''extremely'' DisproportionateRetribution against them.

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* KnightTemplar / HeWhoFightsMonsters: KnightTemplar[=/=]HeWhoFightsMonsters: Payback. While his targets do generally tend to be {{Jerkass}}es, he definitely employs ''extremely'' DisproportionateRetribution against them.



* PetTheDog: During Payback's initial introduction, he doesn't say a word for quite a while as he menaces Drew's boss, Warren. The first lines out of his mouth are when he turns to the cowering Drew (who until this point has assumed he's some sort of general thug) and says "Stay here. You'll be safe."

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* PetTheDog: During Payback's initial introduction, he doesn't say a word for quite a while as he menaces Drew's boss, Warren. The first lines out of his mouth are when he turns to the cowering Drew (who until this point has assumed he's some sort of general thug) and says "Stay here. You'll be safe."
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* RewatchBonus: A lot of Payback's dialogue makes more sense once you know his identity.
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** Terry also displays shades of this to Bruce in a mentor-mentee example.

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** Terry also displays shades of this to Bruce in a mentor-mentee mentor/apprentice example.
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%%* AssholeVictim* AssholeVictim: Drew's boss.



* EnforcedMethodActing: Inverted. Bruce harshly criticizes Terry for going after Howard Lewis, who turned out to be innocent, while Payback was on a rampage at the same time. Terry then offloads his frustrations about his work to the school counselor. Sure enough, after doing so, Payback attacks Bruce, and Terry takes slightly longer to rescue him for him to comment about it. Then there's this exchange:

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* EnforcedMethodActing: Inverted.An {{inverted|Trope}} example InUniverse. Bruce harshly criticizes Terry for going after Howard Lewis, who turned out to be innocent, while Payback was on a rampage at the same time. Terry then offloads his frustrations about his work to the school counselor. Sure enough, after doing so, Payback attacks Bruce, and Terry takes slightly longer to rescue him for him to comment about it. Then there's this exchange:
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* PetTheDog: During Payback's initial introduction, he doesn't say a word for quite a while as he menaces Drew's boss, Warren. The first lines out of his mouth are when he turns to the cowering Drew (who until this point has assumed he's some sort of general thug) and says "Stay here. You'll be safe."
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* RedHerring: Howard Lewis, the Youth Counseling Center's librarian, whom Terry first suspects is Payback since he resembles him in size (and is also voiced by the same actor).

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* RedHerring: Howard Lewis, the Youth Counseling Center's librarian, whom Terry first suspects is Payback since he resembles him in size (and is also [[CastAsAMask voiced by the same actor).actor]]).
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* EnforcedMethodActing: Inverted. Bruce harshly criticizes Terry for going after Howard Lewis, who turned out to be innocent, while Payback was on a rampage at the same time. Terry then offloads his frustrations about his to the school counselor. Sue enough, after doing so, Payback attacks Bruce, and Terry takes slightly longer to rescue him for him to comment about it. Then there's this exchange:
-->'''Bruce:''' By the way, what did you say to Payback to get him so mad at me? That must have been quite a performance?\\

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* EnforcedMethodActing: Inverted. Bruce harshly criticizes Terry for going after Howard Lewis, who turned out to be innocent, while Payback was on a rampage at the same time. Terry then offloads his frustrations about his work to the school counselor. Sue Sure enough, after doing so, Payback attacks Bruce, and Terry takes slightly longer to rescue him for him to comment about it. Then there's this exchange:
-->'''Bruce:''' By the way, what exactly did you say at the center to get Payback to get him so mad at me? That must have been quite a performance?\\performance.\\



\\(''Bruce gives an annoyed look)

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\\(''Bruce gives -->(''Bruce makes an annoyed look)expression'')
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* DramaticIrony: When Batman calls out Payback for taking things too far in targeting the "villains" on behalf of teenagers, Payback angrily retorts: "You have no idea how kids think!" - Batman of course, is a teenager himself. It also [[{{Foreshadowing}} foreshadows]] Payback's true identity.
* EnforcedMethodActing: Inverted. Bruce harshly criticizes Terry for going after Howard Lewis, who turned out to be innocent, while Payback was on a rampage at the same time. Terry then offloads his frustrations about his to the school counselor. Sue enough, after doing so, Payback attacks Bruce, and Terry takes slightly longer to rescue him for him to comment about it. Then there's this exchange:
-->'''Bruce:''' By the way, what did you say to Payback to get him so mad at me? That must have been quite a performance?\\
'''Terry:''' (''gives a smug smile'') Who said anything about performing? (''runs to the limousine'')
\\(''Bruce gives an annoyed look)

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There's a new vigilante in Gotham named Payback, a self-proclaimed defender of victimized teenagers. Unfortunately, this new superhero does not share Batman's [[ThouShaltNotKill principles in crime-fighting]] and is more than willing to severely injure or even kill the "villains" that he targets. Batman must now figure out Payback's identity and find a way to stop him before he really hurts someone.

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There's a new vigilante in Gotham named Payback, a self-proclaimed defender of victimized teenagers. Unfortunately, this new superhero does not share Batman's [[ThouShaltNotKill principles in crime-fighting]] and is more than willing to severely injure or even kill the "villains" that he targets. Batman must now figure out Payback's identity and find a way to stop him before he really hurts someone.
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* TheCobblersChildrenHaveNoShoes: The high school counselor has little time for his own son.

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* TheCobblersChildrenHaveNoShoes: The high school counselor has little time for his own son.



* OffhandBackhand: Bruce criticizes Terry for his failure to pull off this technique during a fight with Payback.



-->'''Shop owner:''' Look at this place. You couldn't fight the guy outside?

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-->'''Shop owner:''' Look at this place. You couldn't fight the guy outside?outside?!



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* BatmanGambit: After Terry repeatedly fails to catch Payback on his own, Bruce takes over and helps Terry pull off a classic gambit: he has Terry lash out and complain about him during a session at the Youth Counseling Center while also casually mentioning his plans for that evening. As expected, this causes Payback to target Bruce as his victim that night, allowing Batman to show up and intercept him.


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* BatmanGambit: After Terry repeatedly fails to catch Payback on his own, Bruce takes over and helps Terry pull off a classic gambit: he has Terry lash out and complain about him during a session at the Youth Counseling Center while also casually mentioning his plans for that evening. As expected, this causes Payback to target Bruce as his victim that night, allowing Batman to show up and intercept him.
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'''Payback:''' Your worst nightmare!\\

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'''Payback:''' [[ImYourWorstNightmare Your worst nightmare!\\nightmare!]]\\
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Not an example: Terry was Method acting, but Enforced Method Acting is when a director gets a realistic performance out of an actor by doing something the actor didn\'t know was going to happen, which is not the case for Terry at the group session in the episode.


* EnforcedMethodActing: After capturing Payback, Bruce lauds Terry for his "performance" at the Youth Counseling Center and providing a convincing narrative that Bruce was being a huge {{Jerkass}} to him. Terry then smirks and comments that he ''wasn't'' performing, much to Bruce's annoyance.
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* TheCobblersChildrenHaveNoShoes: The high school counselor has little time for his own son.
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* MiniMecha: "Payback" is really a young boy piloting a suit that resembles a large adult man.
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* ItsAllMyFault: Dr. Stanton blames himself for his son's actions at the end of the episode.
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* KnightTemplar / HeWhoFightsMonsters: Payback. While his targets do generally tend to be {{Jerkass}}es and {{Asshole Victim}}s, he definitely employs ''extremely'' DisproportionateRetribution against them.

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* KnightTemplar / HeWhoFightsMonsters: Payback. While his targets do generally tend to be {{Jerkass}}es and {{Asshole Victim}}s, {{Jerkass}}es, he definitely employs ''extremely'' DisproportionateRetribution against them.
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There's a new vigilante in Gotham named Payback, a self-proclaimed defender of victimized teenagers. Unfortunately, this new superhero does not share Batman's [[ThouShaltNotKill principles in crime-fighting]] and is more than willing to severely injure or even kill the "villains" that he targets. Batman must now figure out Payback's identity and find a way to stop him before he really hurts someone.

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* BatmanGambit: After Terry repeatedly fails to catch Payback on his own, Bruce takes over and helps Terry pull off a classic gambit: he has Terry lash out and complain about him during a session at the Youth Counseling Center while also casually mentioning his plans for that evening. As expected, this causes Payback to target Bruce as his victim that night, allowing Batman to show up and intercept him.
* BadassBoast: Bruce to Payback:
-->'''Payback:''' You're a mean old man, you know that?\\
'''Bruce:''' Mmm-hmm. And what are you?\\
'''Payback:''' Your worst nightmare!\\
'''Bruce:''' You have ''no idea'' what my nightmares are like.
* BullyHunter: How Payback sees himself.
* EnforcedMethodActing: After capturing Payback, Bruce lauds Terry for his "performance" at the Youth Counseling Center and providing a convincing narrative that Bruce was being a huge {{Jerkass}} to him. Terry then smirks and comments that he ''wasn't'' performing, much to Bruce's annoyance.
* FelonyMisdemeanor: The "villains" that Payback targets, since their only "crimes" are harassing and mistreating the teenagers from the Youth Center.
-->'''Shop owner:''' Why are you doing this to me?\\
'''Payback:''' Because you don't respect the kids who work for you!\\
'''Shop owner:''' That's it? Because of some loser kids? You gotta be crazy!
* KnightTemplar / HeWhoFightsMonsters: Payback. While his targets do generally tend to be {{Jerkass}}es and {{Asshole Victim}}s, he definitely employs ''extremely'' DisproportionateRetribution against them.
* OffhandBackhand: Bruce criticizes Terry for his failure to pull off this technique during a fight with Payback.
* ParentalNeglect: Dr. Stanton is so dedicated to helping the troubled teens at the Youth Center that he begins to neglect spending time with his own son Kenny. This causes Kenny to become Payback, with the belief that if he were to "fix" all of the teens' problems, his father would be able to spend more time with him.
* RedHerring: Howard Lewis, the Youth Counseling Center's librarian, whom Terry first suspects is Payback since he resembles him in size (and is also voiced by the same actor).
* TheReveal: Terry initially assumes that Dr. Stanton's librarian Howard is Payback since he matches the vigilante's deep voice and imposing physique. However, Payback actually turns out to be Kenny, Dr. Stanton's young son.
* UngratefulBastard: The shop owner that Terry rescues from Payback at the beginning of the episode. Upon surveying the damage to his store:
-->'''Shop owner:''' Look at this place. You couldn't fight the guy outside?
* WellDoneSonGuy:
** Kenny to Dr. Stanton.
** Terry also displays shades of this to Bruce in a mentor-mentee example.

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