History Quotes / SFDebris

Third is [[NoIndoorVoice the voice]]: it's wrong. This is evident in the rare situations where the Daleks feign being useful. It sounds almost like a children's toy. But then it gets that clip tone to it, and it snaps at you, and tells you in that unfeeling way the terrible fate that's in store for you. But, unlike other adversaries like [[Franchise/StarTrek the Borg]] or [[Franchise/BattlestarGalactica the Cylons]], there's no detached mechanical tone to it. Every Dalek, while in control, sounds like at the slightest provocation, it's just this side of madness and ready to topple over the edge."''

Second, being part-machine and part-living creature, the Dalek has the most frightening reasoning of both. It has the unfeeling nature of a machine, a total absence of pity, remorse, or empathy, and yet, it harbors an intense hatred for that which is different, and its solution can be summed up in just one word: 'exterminate.'\\\

->''"Now, spoilers if you haven't seen the other finales, but we've had a pretty impressive run with them: Janeway battling Borg every step of the way to thwart their menace and get her crew home; Sisko bringing final victory in their war against the Dominion and ending the Pah'wraith threat against the Bajorans; and Picard preserving the very existence of humanity and likely every other sapient species in this entire quadrant. And now, Archer shall get into a small firefight with some criminals on a CATWALK!"'' ''(cue [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-WHW-QNswE music]])''

Third is the voice: it's wrong. This is evident in the rare situations where the Daleks feign being useful. It sounds almost like a children's toy. But then it gets that clip tone to it, and it snaps at you, and tells you in that unfeeling way the terrible fate that's in store for you. But, unlike other adversaries like the Borg or the Cylons, there's no detached mechanical tone to it. Every Dalek, while in control, sounds like at the slightest provocation, it's just this side of madness and ready to topple over the edge."''

->''"So if you are new here, here are the subjects which are [[AcceptableTargets not shown respect here]]: [[HatesEveryoneEqually whites, blacks, Asians, Latinos, Indians, men, women, straights, gays, bis, the religious, the agnostic, and the atheist. We mock the left, mock the right, mock the center, mock the apathetic, mock consumerism, mock communism, spit on the socialists, laugh at the fascists.]] We'll pick on liberal [[UsefulNotes/BarackObama President Obama]] and conservative [[UsefulNotes/DavidCameron PM Cameron]], along with [[HoYay his wife]] UsefulNotes/NickClegg. We'll piss on the [[Film/FlashGordon1980 Hawkman]], [[Series/DoctorWho Cyberman]], [[Series/BabylonFive Tallman]], [[Film/TheLordOfTheRings Saruman]], [[Film/TheDarkKnight Batman]], [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Beltran]], [[Creator/AdamBaldwin Baldwin]], and Berman. So if you were not aware of it until now, Star Trek is not sacred here."''

->''"This episode combined hack storytelling at its most unimaginative with [[HeManWomanHater a hatred for women]] which could only be achieved if your family was murdered by angry tampons...It's the first Trek episode I've seen where the credits should've included, 'Based on [[ADateWithRosiePalms Something I Left In A Sock]]'!"''

->''"So if you are new here, here are the subjects which are [[AcceptableTargets not shown respect here]]: [[HatesEveryoneEqually whites, blacks, Asians, Latinos, Indians, men, women, straights, gays, bis, the religious, the agnostic, and the atheist. We mock the left, mock the right, mock the center, mock the apathetic, mock consumerism, mock communism, spit on the socialists, laugh at the fascists.]] We'll pick on liberal [[UsefulNotes/BarackObama President Obama]] and conservative [[UsefulNotes/DavidCameron PM Cameron]], along with [[HoYay his wife]] UsefulNotes/NickClegg. We'll piss on the [[Film/FlashGordon1980 Hawkman]], [[Series/DoctorWho Cyberman]], [[Series/BabylonFive Tallman]], [[Film/TheLordOfTheRings Saruman]], [[Film/TheDarkKnight Batman]], [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Beltran]], [[Creator/AdamBaldwin Baldwin]], and [[ScapegoatCreator Berman]]. So if you were not aware of it until now, Star Trek is not sacred here."''

->''"Poor ''[[Film/StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]''. It isn't loved like [[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan Two]], popular like [[Film/StarTrekIVTheVoyageHome Four]], prescient like [[Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry Six]], exciting like [[Film/StarTrekFirstContact Eight]]. It doesn't have people rushing to defend it, saying it's cerebral like [[Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture One]], significant like [[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock Three]], ambitious like [[Film/StarTrekVTheFinalFrontier Five]], landmark like [[Film/StarTrekGenerations Seven]], or theatrical like [[Film/StarTrekNemesis Ten]]. ''Insurrection'' stands alone: [[SoOkayItsAverage bad enough to be hated, but not bad enough to be loved]]."''

-> ''"Look, here's the problem we have. It's the lack of cohesiveness in Janeway's character that I think is bothering people. Because, you see, they just had trouble establishing her, so she basically became a kind of generic authoritative figure with an 'I'm woman and therefore must nurture' vibe tacked onto it. I hate to say it, but I think that that was where the writers, male and female ones, made the mistake; they just couldn't stop slapping 'woman' on as a character trait for Janeway. Now, let me explain what I mean by that. Sisko was not written with 'black' as a character trait. It was a 'characteristic', that's different. It means that it informs his tastes, his views of history, but he didn't walk around with that label on him. That's why I've said before he was never written as 'the black captain'. Sisko is likewise a widower and a single parent, and those were never seen in how he operated as an officer either. People follow him based solely on his rank and leadership, and his race didn't matter; people criticize and shout at him, and his race didn't matter; he gets assignments and promotions and reprimands, and his race didn't matter. Which is how it should be! That's the Star Trek ethos. It's not that he ceased being black; it's that it only matters, just like being a widower, just like being a single parent, ''when it matters'', and the rest of the time, he's just a person, no adjective in front. The writers seemed unable to divorce that with Janeway, so her personality became ill-defined. Because when your character traits include something that applies to ''3.5 billion people'', and a range from a submissive who will literally let men crap on her, to the [[UsefulNotes/TheChancellorsOfGermany leader]] of [[{{UsefulNotes/Germany}} the most economically powerful nation in Europe]], then that seems like you’ve put down something more useless than her astrological sign."''

->''"Remember at the end of "An Unearthly Child" when they landed on that alien planet? That planet was where we would meet what would become the Doctor's most well-known enemy: the Daleks. Shaped like an knobby buttplug and armed with a toilet plunger and laser-firing egg whisk, that might seem hard to believe, but there are several reasons for the Daleks being more menacing than what they might appear at first glance.\\\

-> ''In an earlier draft of this I apologized for my seeming obsession with bashing Creator/RobLiefeld. I have since stricken that and offer no apologies because, even though he is the whipping boy of comic book fans every time he comes up it's obvious why. From his business decisions to his laughably bad stories to his unprofessionalism to the fact that the one area where he possesses anything that could be considered a skill "art". (And believe me the internet has archives that challenge that assertion.) So me even suggesting that he has some skill there if anything threatens my creditability with comicbook fans for being to generous to Rob Liefeld. Which is the point, the one point I argue that the degree of skill suggesting the possibility of one day showing talent. That position puts me on the fringe. So I'm giving up all pretense, I will almost certainly be bashing Liefeld every time he comes up. I would like it to be clear that's not simply of the sake of bashing him. Because I could list all the comments and antics such as his outrage after creating countless forgettable characters that he wholly owns, he publicly loses it when one of his creations that [[Creator/MarvelComics Marvel]] owns was revealed to be gay. Or, repeat the hilarious observation that the first character he did when he left was one that looked like himself, was leader of a celebrity superhero team, and was named Shaft. But I'm not going to make any further remarks like that because as fun as that would be this series is not dedicated to Rob Liefeld and everything he's done wrong. This is about comics, where he is a player and he has done a lot of things wrong. And even then the snide remarks are only because of virtually every time he comes up he is in some way connected to something that defies common sense or human decency.''

-> ''"At Marvel, there was this sense of growing doom. Twelve years before, DC was looking for them to make their comics, and now they were outsourcing them to those who had defected while laying off loyal writers and artists. [Mark] Gruenwald, one of Marvel's most supportive creative forces for two decades, became dejected at the way the universe was treated and the company was collapsing, unwilling to leave for greener pastures but miserable with his current job. Gruenwald's favorite character was Captain America and he'd worked on that book, in one form or another, for fourteen years. Then it and the character was taken away from him and given to Image. Gruenwald was heartbroken, in quite a literal sense. The rebooted Captain America #1 was absolutely dreadful: a terrible story and the Liefeld artistic foibles dialed up to eleven for it. The issue sold well but was a creative black hole; all the history of the character sucked out and replaced with this new figure. Gruenwald took the preview copy Marvel had been delivered home with him on Friday; he never showed up for work on Monday. A non-smoker and a health freak, and yet he had a heart attack and perished. The toxic environment of Marvel had destroyed a good man. And plus it should be noted, and I'm actually being serious here, ''ROB LIEFELD MADE A COMIC SO BAD IT MAY HAVE KILLED A MAN!!!''"''

-->-- [[Recap/StarTrekEnterpriseS04E22TheseAreTheVoyages "These Are the Voyages..."]]

->''"Remember at the end of "An Unearthly Child" when they landed on that alien planet? That was where we would meet what would become the Doctor's most well-known enemy: the Daleks. Shaped like an obly buttplug and armed with a toilet plunger and laser-firing egg whisk, that might seem hard to believe, but there are several reasons for the Daleks being more menacing than what they might appear at first glance.\\\

->''"Poor ''[[Film/StarTrekInsurrection Insurrection]]''. It isn't loved like [[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan Two]], popular like [[Film/StarTrekIVTheVoyageHome Four]], prescient like [[Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry Six]], exciting like [[Film/StarTrekFirstContact Eight]]. It doesn't have people rushing to defend it, saying it's cerebral like [[Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture One]], significant like [[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock Three]], ambitious like [[Film/StarTrekVTheFinalFrontier Five]], landmark like [[Film/StarTrekGenerations Seven]], or theatrical like [[Film/StarTrekNemesis Ten]]. ''Insurrection'' stands alone: bad enough to be hated, but not bad enough to be loved."''

->''"[[PrivateEyeMonologue Into my office walked a dame with million-latinum legs and a swing to her hips that could unphase a tacheon beam. She had trouble stuck to her like stink on Klingon, but the way she set my phaser to stun, I knew I'd be taking the case]]... But I'm no [[Film/TheMalteseFalcon Sam Spade]], I'm just a viewer with an opinion."''

After hosting the Olympics to mess with future ignorant protesters, the Nazis started their plan to take over all of Europe, thanks to various mad scientist plots, the [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger Red Skull]], and [[Film/SchindlersList artillery shells that didn't work, made by Ras's Al Ghul]], who trained his protégé Creator/ChristianBale to be a Hitler Youth by day and a [[Film/SwingKids swing kid]] [[Film/TheDarkKnightSaga dressed like a Bat by night]].\\\

->''"Now, spoilers if you haven't seen the other finales, but we've had a pretty impressive run with them: Janeway battling Borg every step of the way to thwart their menace and get her crew home; Sisko bringing final victory in their war against the Dominion and ending the Pah'wraith threat against the Bajorans; and Picard preserving the very existence of humanity and likely every other sapient species in this entire quadrant. And now, Archer shall get into a small firefight with some criminals on a catwalk!"'' ''(cue [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-WHW-QNswE music]])''

Hitler's ambitious plans to win victory using the Ark of the Covenant was thwarted by Franchise/IndianaJones, succeeding only in drawing Film/{{Hellboy}} to Earth. Franchise/WonderWoman and ComicBook/TheRocketeer tried to stop him, but soon, Hitler's forces took over most of Europe along with the Italians, whom they were allies with because Germany drew the short straw.\\\

-> ''"... I bring that up because the holodeck is just the final step in videogaming. Like I said before, its use in the second episode was to make a fake person so Tasha Yar could kick its ass. The more you down play the interactive elements of the game, the less it is a game and the more it is an episode. But, all that its become is an episode of a show we didn't tune in to watch. Jeri Tailor wanted to do more of this but terminated the holo-novel plot, lamenting that the fans didn't share her appreciation of gothic novels. Um, two things. First, just because I detest UsefulNotes/McDonalds french fries it does not mean I hate french fries. I just hate french fries that taste like the were fermented in an elderly whore's snatch. I don't hate whole categories just because the one you made sucks! And second (and more obviously) if we want some cheeseball-paperback-romance-ghost-story-Nancy-Drew-what-the-fuck, we'd be watching that show right now not the one with space ships and ray-guns."''

->''"The Prime Directive has good intentions in place: it's to protect other peoples from us, and to protect us from being embroiled in affairs that shouldn't concern. Like many aspects of the [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries original series]], it was something latched onto as a sign of enlightenment of the Federation. But, as so often happens, support lead to devotion and devotion lead to worship, and something went from 'good idea' to 'inflexible dogma.'"''

-> ''"... I bring that up because the holodeck is just the final step in videogaming. Like I said before, its use in the second episode was to make a fake person so Tasha Yar could kick its ass. The more you down play the interactive elements of the game, the less it is a game and the more it is an episode. But, all that its become is an episode of a show we didn't tune in to watch. Jeri Tailor wanted to do more of this but terminated the holo-novel plot, lamenting that the fans didn't share her appreciation of gothic novels. Um, two things. First, just because I detest McDonalds french fries it does not mean I hate french fries. I just hate french fries that taste like the were fermented in an elderly whore's snatch. I don't hate whole categories just because the one you made sucks! And second (and more obviously) if we want some cheeseball-paperback-romance-ghost-story-Nancy-Drew-what-the-fuck, we'd be watching that show right now not the one with space ships and ray-guns."''

'''Chuck:''' ''(as Tom)'' It's called {{UPN}}!

A girl named [[Literature/TheDiaryOfAnneFrank Anne Frank]] comes into this somewhere, but I think she was rescued by [[{{Film/XMen}} a boy who had control over magnetism with his mind.]]\\\

->''"Welcome to the idiocy that is... "[[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible Threshold]]". And that is '''[[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer NOT]]''' an opinion."''

-->-- "The Gift"

-->-- "The Menagerie", and "The Game"

-->--"Genesis"

-->-- "Haven"

-->-- "Ex Post Facto"

->''"It's become my opinion over the years that Brannon Braga is kind like [[WildCard a multiplying factor]]: When you partner him with a stronger writer, you get an even stronger script. And when you partner him with someone like Rick Berman, you get a season of ''Enterprise'' so awful, the DVD should come with a coupon for a ladder and a noose."''
-->-- "Scorpion"

-->--"Twisted"

-->-- "Persistence of Vision"

-->-- "Carpenter Street"

-->--"Bounty"

-->-- ''The Conscience of the King''

-->-- "Basics Pt. 1"

-->--"Timeless"

-->-- "These Are The Voyages"

-->-- "Move Along Home"

-->-- "Badda-Bing, Badda-Bang", on how Sisko complains about racism in the 1960s, [[UnfortunateImplications but not about the sexism also present in that time]].

-->-- "The Omega Directive"

-->-- "Profit and Lace," one of only a few episodes in the entire ''Trek'' franchise to receive a rating of "0" by him.

-->--"Dark Frontier"

-->--"Fair Haven"

->''"Well, look, no judgment. Your old boyfriend rolls into town, you're upset, you drink too much, you fuck a penguin, these things happen."''

-> ''In an earlier draft of this I apologized for my seeming obsession with bashing Rob Liefeld. I have since stricken that and offer no apologies because, even though he is the whipping boy of comic book fans every time he comes up it's obvious why. From his business decisions to his laughably bad stories to his unprofessionalism to the fact that the one area where he possesses anything that could be considered a skill "art". (And believe me the internet has archives that challenge that assertion.) So me even suggesting that he has some skill there if anything threatens my creditability with comicbook fans for being to generous to Rob Liefeld. Which is the point, the one point I argue that the degree of skill suggesting the possibility of one day showing talent. That position puts me on the fringe. So I'm giving up all pretense, I will almost certainly be bashing Liefeld every time he comes up. I would like it to be clear that's not simply of the sake of bashing him. Because I could list all the comments and antics such as his outrage after creating countless forgettable characters that he wholly owns, he publicly loses it when one of his creations that [[Creator/MarvelComics Marvel]] owns was revealed to be gay. Or, repeat the hilarious observation that the first character he did when he left was one that looked like himself, was leader of a celebrity superhero team, and was named Shaft. But I'm not going to make any further remarks like that because as fun as that would be this series is not dedicated to Rob Liefeld and everything he's done wrong. This is about comics, where he is a player and he has done a lot of things wrong. And even then the snide remarks are only because of virtually every time he comes up he is in some way connected to something that defies common sense or human decency.''

->''"If there's a three-word phrase that will forever be associated with Star Trek fans, it's not gonna be 'this is real.' It's '[[Series/SaturdayNightLive Get a life!]]': dismissing your emotions simply because they don't come from that source, treating it as something to be embarrassed or ashamed of. That is something members of geek culture have been singled out for for a long, long time, that their emotions that stem from the works they love are laughable and are to be mocked for taking those feelings seriously about something that's not real. Fiction is often called an escape, but I think it's more accurate to say that in certain fiction, you get to experience feelings that you normally don't in your daily life, whether it's science fiction or fantasy or horror or romance. Whatever it is, your life is not giving you the feelings, so you have to find it elsewhere."

[[Series/DadsArmy Arthur Lowe was put in charge of defending England]] while [[Film/TheGreatEscape Steve McQueen tried to escape from a POW camp]], but stopped ''just'' short of the Swiss border because [[Theatre/TheSoundOfMusic the Von Trapps had gotten there first]], and Richard Attenborough only succeeded in [[Film/JurassicPark a plan to house cloned dinosaurs]] -- all while [[Series/HogansHeroes Colonel Klink]] patted himself on the back.\\\

->''"So if you are new here, here are the subjects which are [[AcceptableTargets not shown respect here]]: [[HatesEveryoneEqually whites, blacks, Asians, Latinos, Indians, men, women, straights, gays, bis, the religious, the agnostic, and the atheist. We mock the left, mock the right, mock the center, mock the apathetic, mock consumerism, mock communism, spit on the socialists, laugh at the fascists.]] We'll pick on liberal [[UsefulNotes/BarackObama President Obama]] and conservative [[UsefulNotes/DavidCameron PM Cameron]], along with [[HoYay his wife]] UsefulNotes/NickClegg. We'll piss on the [[Film/FlashGordon Hawkman]], [[Series/DoctorWho Cyberman]], [[Series/BabylonFive Tallman]], [[Film/TheLordOfTheRings Saruman]], [[Film/TheDarkKnight Batman]], [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Beltran]], [[Creator/AdamBaldwin Baldwin]], and [[ScapegoatCreator Berman]]. So if you were not aware of it until now, Star Trek is not sacred here."''