History Quotes / CerebusSyndrome

->[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots Old Snake's]] 'To let the world be' phrase is perhaps the most obvious betrayal of his former philosophy, as well as the most obvious hint about how Kojima felt about the way the series was headed. Letting the world be is the opposite of [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Philanthopy's]] motto, which was 'Fight for your beliefs'. This kind of drastic contradiction only makes sense in the context of Kojima's [[ArtistDisillusionment stark change in attitude]] over the years.

->''ChronoCross'' is a grown-up ''ChronoTrigger''. Maybe ''[Masao]'' Kato reckoned that the fans who enjoyed ''Trigger'' when they were ten to fifteen years old deserved a sequel whose maturation was commeasurate with their own experiences during the years since Trigger's release. ''Chrono Trigger'' is a fairy tale; a boyhood dream. ''Chrono Cross'' is [[RealityEnsues a bittersweet dose of reality]]. There is no THE END in the world. The story always continues after the latest chapter is concluded, and -- perhaps as ''Trigger''[='s=] fans noticed as they passed into adolescence and adulthood -- the next chapter isn't necessarily a happy one or what we expected.

->Was it tasteful, maturely-executed and [[RatedMForMoney not-gratuitous]] at all? No. No, it wasn't any of those... knowing that was being doing by a guy named 'Skullface' so he could blow up a giant walking mecha robot that existed because Big Boss previously blew up another giant walking mecha robot that was infused with the resurrected soul of his dead mentor? ''That'' stuff is why it's tough to take a rape scene in ''Metal Gear Solid'' seriously. What it was was awkward; really fucking awkward.

->Oh my God, this movie is a black hole of humor. There are a few good chuckles in the first half with the ''Daily Planet'' crew and Kitty, but it just gets so damned serious and self-absorbed, and it doesn’t back any of it up with real content beyond the world’s most hilariously transparent Jesus imagery. This side of, like, ''NeonGenesisEvangelion'', at least.

->''"And your work is more important?"'' ''"''Now'' you got it."'' -- and therein lies the fundamental difference between ''Series/DoctorWho'' and ''Torchwood''. The former [[HumansAreSpecial celebrates humanity]] whereas the latter (some episodes excepted) [[AMillionIsAStatistic treads on it]] to get to the sleaze.\\\
''"How come we get all the Weevils and bollocks and shit? Is that what alien life is -- filth?"'' -- the antithesis of ''Doctor Who'' which promotes the universe as a playground to play in, ''Torchwood'' seems to suggest it is a cesspool that [[CosmicHorrorStory flings its excrement]] our way. Nice.

->[=DS9=][='=]s darker themes are [[BrokenBase a subject for debate]] among trekkers even now that the show has been over for many years. Some believe that its willingness to take risks makes it the best show in the franchise, and ''[=DS9=]'' is usually the critics' favourite. Others believe that ''[=DS9=]''[='=]s abandonment of GeneRoddenberry's morality makes it the worst in the franchise...Earth is meant to be a utopia, but in ''[=DS9=]'' a Starfleet Admiral stages an attempted coup to take control of the planet for '[[StateSec its protection]]'. Earth is even attacked by enemy fleets, and terrorist bombings. Gene's family protested against the Dominion war believing that Gene didn't want war in ''Star Trek''. Perhaps the most controversial part of the series was the introduction of Section 31, a Federation secret police (so secret that [[HandWave nobody ever heard of them before]]) that carries out assassinations and genocide. Gene certainly wouldn't want that.

->''"So Archer is entirely correct to respond with fear and paranoia towards anything that is different towards him.\\\
[[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop Mission accomplished.]]\\\
In many respects, ''The Crossing'' updates ''[[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries Return to Tomorrow]]'' for a more suspicious and untrusting ''Star Trek''. Kirk responded to Sargon’s request to borrow his body by asserting that ''“risk is our business”'', a succinct expression of the show’s sixties optimism. Exploration and adventure were part of the job description. Receiving an offer that would make most reasonable people deeply uncomfortable, Kirk loaned out his body to help save a dying culture, even as two of the three members of that culture proved somewhat untrustworthy.\\\
In contrast, ''The Crossing'' has Archer finish off an entire race of predatory non-corporeal beings without batting an eye. The Crossing seems to confirm that ''Enterprise'' is no longer a show about exploration and new worlds. [[InNameOnly Perhaps it never was]]; perhaps that show was dead before ''Broken Bow'' was even broadcast in late September 2011. Later in the season, ''Cogenitor'' will eulogise that type of ''Star Trek'' and ''First Flight'' will suggest that ''Enterprise'' was [[ArmedWithCanon doomed before it even began]]. In the meantime, ''The Crossing'' seems to illustrate that romantic ''Star Trek'' is dead and gone."''

->While they’re often overlooked by super-hero fans, newspaper comic strips are a vital part of the world of sequential art that reaches millions of readers and is no less worthy of examination or criticism than their long-form counterparts. Unless, of course, we’re talking about Tom Batiuk’s ''ComicStrip/FunkyWinkerbean'', which started out 30 years ago as a high school comedy and evolved into a form that delivers three panels of pure, crushing despair directly at its readers on a daily basis...Seriously, there’s a level of despair Tom Batiuk’s reaching to here where you just have to respect him for being so utterly relentless about it. The dude has no mercy. He’s the [[{{Film/Rocky}} Ivan Drago]] of depressing comic strips. ''He will break you.''

->[[Creator/HideoKojima Kojima]] emphasized early on that Snake would be sneaking through a warzone that he didn't care about; the whole 'Side A versus Side B' scenario where you are a powerful but neutral factor is a possible reflection Kojima's disinterest... [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots Old Snake's]] 'To let the world be' phrase is perhaps the most obvious betrayal of his former philosophy, as well as the most obvious hint about how Kojima felt about the way the series was headed. Letting the world be is the opposite of [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Philanthopy's]] motto, which was 'Fight for your beliefs'. This kind of drastic contradiction only makes sense in the context of Kojima's [[ArtistDisillusionment stark change in attitude]] over the years.

In many respects, ''The Crossing'' updates ''[[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries Return to Tomorrow]]'' for a more suspicious and untrusting ''Star Trek''. Kirk responded to Sargon’s request to borrow his body by asserting that ''“risk is our business”'', a succinct expression of the show’s sixties optimism. Exploration and adventure were part of the job description. Receiving an offer that would make most reasonable people deeply uncomfortable, Kirk loaned out his body to help save a dying culture, even as two of the three members of that culture proved somewhat untrustworthy.\\\\

->In some ways, this reflects ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Enterprise]]'' as ''Star Trek'' for the [[TheWarOnTerror post-9/11 era]]. Gone was the [[IWantMyJetpack utopian dream]] of a universe where everybody might intermingle and exist as friends. Instead, it seemed that the priority was to establish and understand boundaries with the other...Not only are the Vulcans introduced as secretive and untrustworthy allies, but it seems like the ''Enterprise'' seems to spend most of its time learning not to stick its nose where it doesn’t belong. For a show about the early years of the Federation, it seems like ''Enterprise'' is [[InNameOnly not particularly interested]] in building bridges or alliances or understandings.
-->--'''[[http://them0vieblog.com/2015/04/17/star-trek-enterprise-dawn-review/ Darren Mooney]]'''

''"How come we get all the Weevils and bollocks and shit? Is that what alien life is - filth?"'' -- the antithesis of ''Doctor Who'' which promotes the universe as a playground to play in, ''Torchwood'' seems to suggest it is a cesspool that [[CosmicHorrorStory flings its excrement]] our way. Nice.

->In some ways, this reflects ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Enterprise]]'' as ''Star Trek'' for the [[TheWarOnTerror post-9/11 era]]. Gone was the [[IWantMyJetpack utopian dream]] of a universe where everybody might intermingle and exist as friends. Instead, it seemed that the priority was to establish and understand boundaries with the other...Not only are the Vulcans introduced as secretive and untrustworthy allies, but it seems like the ''Enterprise'' seems to spend most of its time learning not to stick its nose where it doesn’t belong. For a show about the early years of the Federation, it seems like ''Enterprise'' is not particularly interested in building bridges or alliances or understandings.

->In some ways, this reflects ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprieEnterprise Enterprise]]'' as ''Star Trek'' for the [[TheWarOnTerror post-9/11 era]]. Gone was the [[IWantMyJetpack utopian dream]] of a universe where everybody might intermingle and exist as friends. Instead, it seemed that the priority was to establish and understand boundaries with the other...Not only are the Vulcans introduced as secretive and untrustworthy allies, but it seems like the ''Enterprise'' seems to spend most of its time learning not to stick its nose where it doesn’t belong. For a show about the early years of the Federation, it seems like ''Enterprise'' is not particularly interested in building bridges or alliances or understandings.

->''Enterprise'' continues to define itself as post-9/11 ''Star Trek'', reacting quickly and subtly to the shifting political climate. Breaking the Ice treats the idea of the senior staff monitoring correspondence rather casually – suggesting that it’s perfectly understandable for members of the senior staff to read mail marked as private or confidential. While this is something that makes a lot of sense for a military operation, but it’s hard to imagine Picard casually sifting through letters to his senior staff or Sisko prying into letters sent to Kira.\\\
The show seems quite sympathetic to Archer and Trip in this situation, despite the obvious invasion of privacy and violation of trust. When Trip feels guilty about prying, he offers some rationalisations suggesting he felt obligated to poke around in T’Pol’s business. ''“All they had to do was send it through regular channels, mark it personal, and we’d have left it alone. But no, they had to encrypt it, force me to start snooping.”'' [[DesignatedHero It’s a tough job, protecting the safety of the ship.]]
-->--'''[[http://them0vieblog.com/2015/01/09/star-trek-enterprise-breaking-the-ice-review/ Darren Mooney]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', "Breaking the Ice"

->How do you even begin to separate the horrible from the fanciful in this place anymore?
-->--'''Podcast/{{Rifftrax}}''' of ''Literature/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban''

'''Helen:''' '''''[[Webcomic/SomethingPositive ALZHEIMER'S! I HAVE ALZHEIMER'S!]]'''''\\

->''[[PluckyGirl I was always brave]]\\

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->It's stopped being fun, Doctor.
-->--'''Tegan''', ''Series/DoctorWho'' ([[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS21E4ResurrectionOfTheDaleks}} "Resurrection of the Daleks"]])

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->You've changed, Parker. You used to have a sense of humor. What happened? Why are you so angry?
-->--'''[[ComicBook/TheCloneSaga Ben Reilly]]''' [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall echoing the sentiments]] of Spidey fans in general
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'''Helen:''' [[Webcomic/SomethingPositive ALZHEIMER'S! I HAVE ALZHEIMER'S!]]\\

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->What's the word for when something that started out being funny ends up depressing the hell out of you? Insert that word here.
--> -- '''Jenny Lawson''', ''Let's Pretend This Never Happened''

->'''Mike:''' Let's talk about the premise: It takes place six months after Dorothy has gone to Oz, and the movie starts off with her [[ThousandYardStare lying in bed in a deep depression]], and her parents are talking about how she's [[CassandraTruth mentally deranged]] because she keeps talking about a place called Oz, so their solution is to take her to a Doctor to have her get [[BedlamHouse electroshock therapy on her brain in a psychiatric hospital.]]\\
'''Jay:''' I was just picturing Creator/JudyGarland getting strapped down to a table and being brought into a room where there about to shock her brain, but giving [[ThePollyanna the same type of performance]] she gave in the original movie. That would've been ''wonderful''.
-->--''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag'' on ''Film/ReturnToOz''

->Boy, ''Toy Story'' got really dark, didn't it? I mean it's like 'You've got a friend in m--[[KillItWithFire BURN ALIVE! BURN UNTIL YOU ROT IN HELL!]]'
-->--'''[[WebVideo/BumReviews Chester A Bum]]''' reviewing ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3''

->Was it tasteful, maturely-executed and [[RatedMForMoney not-gratuitous]] at all? No. No, it wasn't any of those... knowing that was being doing by a guy named 'Skullface' so he could blow up a giant walking mecha robot that existed because Big Boss previously blew up another giant walking mecha robot that was infused with the resurrected soul of his dead mentor? ''That'' stuff is why it's tough to take a rape scene in ''Metal Gear Solid'' seriously. What it was was awkward; really fucking awkward.
-->-- '''George Weidman''' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OABF4AsUec on]] ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidGroundZeroes''
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->I know you aspire to write stories with some complexity, Rockstar, and that players trying to ''have fun'' in your games [[StopHavingFunGuys must be very frustrating]], but you kind of brought this on yourself when you decided that [=Tw@=] would be a funny name for an internet cafe.
-->-- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''', ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV''
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->''"What's the word for when something that started out being funny ends up depressing the hell out of you? Insert that word here."''

->The last act is bloody, no matter how charming the rest of the play.
-->--'''Blaise Pascal'''

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-->--'''''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''''' [[MusicalEpisode sings]] "Going Through the Motions" ("Once More With Feeling")

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->The last act is bloody, no matter how charming the rest of the play.
-->--'''Blaise Pascal'''

->[[HearingVoices Quit whispering in my ear, Cerberus!]]
-->--[[WordofGod The author]] [[https://twitter.com/#!/dantheshive/status/60474458619658240 of]] ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive''

->'''Virus''': Never turn a funny comic into a serious epic drama. We have a [[SuicidePact murder-suicide pact]] that says if we ever turn into a drama, we're going to end it all rather than inflict that on the world.\\
'''Eastwood''': No, I said I was going to murder the rest of you, change my name and spend the rest of my days as a painter in Brazil.
-->--[[WordofGod The authors of]] ''Webcomic/ExterminatusNow''

->These writers and the producer, who's very creative, were writing more and more about [[WhoWantsToLiveForever how painful it is to be immortal.]] And there was a little bit of existential crisis linked to, also, an [[FranchiseZombie inspirational crisis]], and it became a little less '[[RuleOfFun MTV Rock n' Roll.]]' By the time they went into ''Raven'', in my opinion, we were full-aheaded into a middle-aged crisis show... It was like a death wish. Nobody wanted to go on living forever. Everyone's saying, 'aaaahh, it's [[{{Wangst}} so hard living forever!]] I can't take it! [[CursedWithAwesome Everybody dies but me!]]' It started already on ''Highlander'' a little bit; And it always cracked me up because, basically, you'd think it'd be a great, blissful gift to be alive forever. Well, it became darker and darker and more painful.
-->--'''Dennis Berry''' on the aborted ''{{Franchise/Highlander}}: The Raven''

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-->--'''Phil Sandifer''' [[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2011/04/time-can-be-rewritten-4-man-in-velvet.html on]] [[VirginMissingAdventures "The Man in the Velvet Mask"]]

->'''Mike:''' Let's talk about the premise: It takes place six months after Dorothy has gone to Oz, and the movie starts off with her [[ThousandYardStare lying in bed in a deep depression]], and her parents are talking about how she's [[CassandraTruth mentally deranged]] because she keeps talking about a place called Oz, so their solution is to take her to a Doctor to have her get [[BedlamHouse electroshock therapy on her brain in a psychiatric hospital.]]\\
'''Jay:''' I was just picturing Creator/JudyGarland getting strapped down to a table and being brought into a room where there about to shock her brain, but giving [[ThePollyanna the same type of performance]] she gave in the original movie. That would've been ''wonderful''.
-->--''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag'' on ''Film/ReturnToOz''

->How do you even begin to separate the horrible from the fanciful in this place anymore?
-->--'''Podcast/{{Rifftrax}}''' of ''Literature/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban''

->Boy, ''Toy Story'' got really dark, didn't it? I mean it's like 'You've got a friend in m--[[KillItWithFire BURN ALIVE! BURN UNTIL YOU ROT IN HELL!]]'
-->--'''[[WebVideo/BumReviews Chester A Bum]]''' reviewing ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3''

-->--Website/{{Cracked}} [[http://www.cracked.com/article_18621_the-sadness-toy-story-measured-in-tears-5Bchart5D.html chart]]: The Sadness of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' Measured in [[TearJerker Tears]]

->I know you aspire to write stories with some complexity, Rockstar, and that players trying to ''have fun'' in your games [[StopHavingFunGuys must be very frustrating]], but you kind of brought this on yourself when you decided that [=Tw@=] would be a funny name for an internet cafe.
-->-- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''', ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV''

-->--[[http://www.metagearsolid.org/reports_mgs4_soldout_3.html "Metal Gear Soldout"]]

->Was it tasteful, maturely-executed and [[RatedMForMoney not-gratuitous]] at all? No. No, it wasn't any of those... knowing that was being doing by a guy named 'Skullface' so he could blow up a giant walking mecha robot that existed because Big Boss previously blew up another giant walking mecha robot that was infused with the resurrected soul of his dead mentor? ''That'' stuff is why it's tough to take a rape scene in ''Metal Gear Solid'' seriously. What it was was awkward; really fucking awkward.
-->-- '''George Weidman''' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OABF4AsUec on]] ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidGroundZeroes''

->'''Mike:''' Let's talk about the premise: It takes place six months after Dorothy has gone to Oz, and the movie starts off with her [[ThousandYardStare lying in bed in a deep depression]], and her parents are talking about how she's [[CassandraTruth mentally deranged]] because she keeps talking about a place called Oz, so their solution is to take her to a Doctor to have her get [[BedlamHouse electroshock therapy on her brain in a psychiatric hospital.]]\\'''Jay:''' I was just picturing Creator/JudyGarland getting strapped down to a table and being brought into a room where there about to shock her brain, but giving [[ThePollyanna the same type of performance]] she gave in the original movie. That would've been ''wonderful''.

->'''Helen''': Okay, the truth. I can't date because [[Webcomic/QuestionableContent when I was a girl I saw my father commit suicide]].\\
'''Dave''': That makes no sense. And you don't have a father.\\
'''Helen''': Okay ... [[Webcomic/GeneralProtectionFault I was sexually assaulted by my college fiance]].\\
'''Dave''': Wouldn't you have told me this before...\\
'''Helen''': [[Webcomic/SomethingPositive ALZHEIMER'S! I HAVE ALZHEIMER'S!]]\\
'''Dave''':It's just not that kind of strip, Helen.

''Dave''': That makes no sense. And you don't have a father.\\

->''"It's always lightest before the dark."''

->''"[[PluckyGirl I was always brave]]\\

[[ItNeverGetsAnyEasier Doesn’t mean a thing]]"''

->''"It's stopped being fun, Doctor."''

->''"You've changed, Parker. You used to have a sense of humor. What happened? Why are you so angry?'"''

->''"Seriously, I'd make an effort to get out. The drama tag was pulled, so we're looking at a limited lifespan here. Sure, it's manageable now, but soon you'll have ''[[{{backstory}} backstories]]'' and {{love triangle}}s and then love ''[[LoveDodecahedron pentagons]]'' and then super-horrible secrets are revealed that change things forever... this store will end up so miserably ''{{emo}}'' that [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy no sane being will be able to stand it]]. Everyone will just ''leave''."''

->'''Dave''': You want to break up? Where's this coming from?
->'''Helen''': Okay, the truth. I can't date because [[Webcomic/QuestionableContent when I was a girl I saw my father commit suicide]].
->'''Dave''': That makes no sense. And you don't have a father.
-> '''Helen''': Okay ... [[Webcomic/GeneralProtectionFault I was sexually assaulted by my college fiance]].
->'''Dave''': Wouldn't you have told me this before...
->'''Helen''': [[Webcomic/SomethingPositive ALZHEIMER'S! I HAVE ALZHEIMER'S!]]
->'''Dave''': [[BreakingTheFourthWall It's just not that kind of strip, Helen.]]

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->''"The last act is bloody, no matter how charming the rest of the play."''

->''"[[HearingVoices Quit whispering in my ear, Cerberus!]]"''

->''"These writers and the producer, who's very creative, were writing more and more about [[WhoWantsToLiveForever how painful it is to be immortal.]] And there was a little bit of existential crisis linked to, also, an [[FranchiseZombie inspirational crisis]], and it became a little less '[[RuleOfFun MTV Rock n' Roll.]]' By the time they went into ''Raven'', in my opinion, we were full-aheaded into a middle-aged crisis show... It was like a death wish. Nobody wanted to go on living forever. Everyone's saying, 'aaaahh, it's [[{{Wangst}} so hard living forever!]] I can't take it! [[CursedWithAwesome Everybody dies but me!]]' It started already on ''Highlander'' a little bit; And it always cracked me up because, basically, you'd think it'd be a great, blissful gift to be alive forever. Well, it became darker and darker and more painful."''

[[folder:Quotes on works]]
->''"PaulCornell once observed that the reason Creator/SylvesterMcCoy was his favorite Doctor was that [=McCoy=] was the first Doctor Cornell could imagine encountering a concentration camp and still having the story work, whereas earlier Doctors would just not work, morally, in that setting. And it's a fair point -- imagining Creator/WilliamHartnell 'hmmming' his way through systematic extermination while [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct insisting on upholding history]] would be sickening...But sometimes seeing the shocking extremes of what a ''Doctor Who'' story can be is necessary. You don't really know the shape of something until you probe its edges."''

->''"''[=DS9=]''[='=]s darker themes are [[BrokenBase a subject for debate]] among trekkers even now that the show has been over for many years. Some believe that its willingness to take risks makes it the best show in the franchise, and ''[=DS9=]'' is usually the critics' favourite. Others believe that ''[=DS9=]''[='=]s abandonment of GeneRoddenberry's morality makes it the worst in the franchise...Earth is meant to be a utopia, but in ''[=DS9=]'' a Starfleet Admiral stages an attempted coup to take control of the planet for '[[StateSec its protection]]'. Earth is even attacked by enemy fleets, and terrorist bombings. Gene's family protested against the Dominion war believing that Gene didn't want war in ''Star Trek''. Perhaps the most controversial part of the series was the introduction of Section 31, a Federation secret police (so secret that [[HandWave nobody ever heard of them before]]) that carries out assassinations and genocide. Gene certainly wouldn't want that."''

->'''Mike:''' Let's talk about the premise: It takes place six months after Dorothy has gone to Oz, and the movie starts off with her [[ThousandYardStare lying in bed in a deep depression]], and her parents are talking about how she's [[CassandraTruth mentally deranged]] because she keeps talking about a place called Oz, so their solution is to take her to a Doctor to have her get [[BedlamHouse electroshock therapy on her brain in a psychiatric hospital.]]\\
'''Jay:''' I was just picturing Creator/JudyGarland getting strapped down to a table and being brought into a room where there about to shock her brain, but giving [[ThePollyanna the same type of performance]] she gave in the original movie. That would've been ''wonderful''.
-->--'''''WebVideo/HalfInTheBag''''' on ''Film/ReturnToOz''

->''"How do you even begin to separate the horrible from the fanciful in this place anymore?"''

->''"Boy, ''Toy Story'' got really dark, didn't it? I mean it's like 'You've got a friend in m--[[KillItWithFire BURN ALIVE! BURN UNTIL YOU ROT IN HELL!]]'"''

->''"Oh my God, this movie is a black hole of humor. There are a few good chuckles in the first half with the ''Daily Planet'' crew and Kitty, but it just gets so damned serious and self-absorbed, and it doesn’t back any of it up with real content beyond the world’s most hilariously transparent Jesus imagery. This side of, like, ''NeonGenesisEvangelion'', at least."''

->''"While they’re often overlooked by super-hero fans, newspaper comic strips are a vital part of the world of sequential art that reaches millions of readers and is no less worthy of examination or criticism than their long-form counterparts. Unless, of course, we’re talking about Tom Batiuk’s ''ComicStrip/FunkyWinkerbean'', which started out 30 years ago as a high school comedy and evolved into a form that delivers three panels of pure, crushing despair directly at its readers on a daily basis...Seriously, there’s a level of despair Tom Batiuk’s reaching to here where you just have to respect him for being so utterly relentless about it. The dude has no mercy. He’s the [[{{Film/Rocky}} Ivan Drago]] of depressing comic strips. ''He will break you.''"''

->''"Let's say, for sake of example, that you're sick of making Companion Cube jokes, and suddenly do a serious storyline about [[Webcomic/CtrlAltDel your female character having a miscarriage]]. Obviously, [[TropesAreNotGood you'd need to have several blood clots in your brain]] to think this is a good idea; you're established as a wacky humour comic, so this is going to be an awkward [[MoodWhiplash tonal shift at best]], and hugely disrespectful of the subject matter at worst."''

->''"I know you aspire to write stories with some complexity, Rockstar, and that players trying to ''have fun'' in your games [[StopHavingFunGuys must be very frustrating]], but you kind of brought this on yourself when you decided that [=Tw@=] would be a funny name for an internet cafe."''

->''"[[Creator/HideoKojima Kojima]] emphasized early on that Snake would be sneaking through a warzone that he didn't care about; the whole 'Side A versus Side B' scenario where you are a powerful but neutral factor is a possible reflection Kojima's disinterest... [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots Old Snake's]] 'To let the world be' phrase is perhaps the most obvious betrayal of his former philosophy, as well as the most obvious hint about how Kojima felt about the way the series was headed. Letting the world be is the opposite of [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty Philanthopy's]] motto, which was 'Fight for your beliefs'. This kind of drastic contradiction only makes sense in the context of Kojima's [[ArtistDisillusionment stark change in attitude]] over the years."''

->''"Was it tasteful, maturely-executed and [[RatedMForMoney not-gratuitous]] at all? No. No, it wasn't any of those... knowing that was being doing by a guy named 'Skullface' so he could blow up a giant walking mecha robot that existed because Big Boss previously blew up another giant walking mecha robot that was infused with the resurrected soul of his dead mentor? ''That'' stuff is why it's tough to take a rape scene in ''Metal Gear Solid'' seriously. What it was was awkward; really fucking awkward."''

->''"''ChronoCross'' is a grown-up ''ChronoTrigger''. Maybe ''[Masao]'' Kato reckoned that the fans who enjoyed ''Trigger'' when they were ten to fifteen years old deserved a sequel whose maturation was commeasurate with their own experiences during the years since Trigger's release. ''Chrono Trigger'' is a fairy tale; a boyhood dream. ''Chrono Cross'' is [[RealityEnsues a bittersweet dose of reality]]. There is no THE END in the world. The story always continues after the latest chapter is concluded, and -- perhaps as ''Trigger''[='s=] fans noticed as they passed into adolescence and adulthood -- the next chapter isn't necessarily a happy one or what we expected."''

->"''At first, the comic was filled with silly one-shot stories and goofy jokes, but later on, all that fell by the wayside as a stronger and much more compelling storyline over took the series.''"
-->-- '''WebVideo/TheIrateGamer''' summing up the trope when talking about ''Manga/{{Kinnikuman}}''.

->''"I was always [[PluckyGirl brave]]\\

-->-- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''', ''GrandTheftAutoV''

-->--'''''[[http://h2g2.com/edited_entry/A6671531 h2g2]]'''' on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine''

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->''"PaulCornell once observed that the reason Creator/SylvesterMcCoy was his favorite Doctor was that [=McCoy=] was the first Doctor Cornell could imagine encountering a concentration camp and still having the story work, whereas earlier Doctors would just not work, morally, in that setting. And it's a fair point -- imagining Creator/WilliamHartnell 'hmmming' his way through systematic extermination while [[HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct insisting on upholding history]] would be sickening...But sometimes seeing the shocking extremes of what a ''Doctor Who'' story can be is necessary. You don't really know the shape of something until you probe its edges."''
-->--'''Phil Sandifer''' [[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2011/04/time-can-be-rewritten-4-man-in-velvet.html on]] [[VirginMissingAdventures "The Man in the Velvet Mask"]]

'''Jay:''' I was just picturing Creator/JudyGarland getting strapped down to a table and being brought into a room where there about to shock her brain, but giving [[ThePollyanna the same type performance]] she gave in the original movie. That would've been ''wonderful''.

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