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** Joseph beats up General Norton, an {{Evil Old Folk|s}}, [[PayEvilUntoEvil for his crimes]]. [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome However due to being a senior, Norton can’t assault Joseph back with an equal amount of brutality]]. This leads to Norton indulging in DisproportionateRetribution[=/=]NoKillLikeOverkill in order to get even with Joseph. (Let’s just say ordering a squadron of ProfessionalKiller EliteMooks to attack Joseph [[CrazyPrepared for]] [[TheManyDeathsOfYou example]]) NiceJobBreakingItHero.
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** Joseph beats up General Norton, an {{Evil Old Folk|s}}, [[PayEvilUntoEvil for his crimes]]. [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome However due to being a senior, Norton can’t assault Joseph back with an equal amount of brutality]]. This leads to Norton indulging in DisproportionateRetribution[=/=]NoKillLikeOverkill in order to get even with Joseph. (Let’s just say ordering a squadron of 75 through 97 ProfessionalKiller EliteMooks to attack Joseph [[CrazyPrepared for]] [[TheManyDeathsOfYou example]]) NiceJobBreakingItHero.
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** Joseph beats up General Norton, an {{Evil Old Folk|s}}, [[PayEvilUntoEvil for his crimes]]. [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome However due to being a senior, Norton can’t assault Joseph back with an equal amount of brutality]]. This leads to Norton indulging in DisproportionateRetribution[=/=]NoKillLikeOverkill. (Let’s just say ordering a squadron of ProfessionalKiller EliteMooks to attack Joseph [[CrazyPrepared for]] [[TheManyDeathsOfYou example]]) NiceJobBreakingItHero.
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** Joseph beats up General Norton, an {{Evil Old Folk|s}}, [[PayEvilUntoEvil for his crimes]]. [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome However due to being a senior, Norton can’t assault Joseph back with an equal amount of brutality]]. This leads to Norton indulging in DisproportionateRetribution[=/=]NoKillLikeOverkill.DisproportionateRetribution[=/=]NoKillLikeOverkill in order to get even with Joseph. (Let’s just say ordering a squadron of ProfessionalKiller EliteMooks to attack Joseph [[CrazyPrepared for]] [[TheManyDeathsOfYou example]]) NiceJobBreakingItHero.
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** Joseph has a BlackAndWhiteMorality mentality; He will treat the innocent/good seniors with kindness but ''will'' harm [[EvilOldFolks evil seniors]].
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** Joseph has a BlackAndWhiteMorality mentality; He will treat the innocent/good seniors with kindness but ''will'' ''[[GoodIsNotSoft will]]'' harm [[EvilOldFolks evil seniors]].
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'''Basic Trope''': [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin A character has no qualms with harming the elderly]].
* '''Straight''': [[TheMafia Joseph]] is seen mugging a 75 year old man with a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_submachine_gun Thompson submachine gun]] for an exchange of $579 in his EstablishingCharacterMoment.
* '''Exaggerated''':
** The elderly are the ''only'' people Joseph targets.
** Joseph [[CruelAndUnusualDeath horrifically murders a senior in such an inhumane way]], {{rape|Is a special kind of evil}}s [[MoralEventHorizon him]], and [[CrossesTheLineTwice eats him all to top it off]] [[EvilIsFun just because he can]].
** [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain Joseph]] is an {{ageis|m tropes}}t who wishes to exterminate all seniors.
* '''Downplayed''':
** Joseph beats up a 52 year old.
** Joseph engages in the Neglectful, Verbal, and Emotional/Psychological type of ElderAbuse. Not exactly physical abuse, but otherwise applies to the same implications of this {{trope}}.
** While Joseph [[TitleDrop would harm a senior]], he would give a less painful death/hurt the elderly in a less painful manner than adults.
** Joseph {{dope slap}}s a ScatterbrainedSenior for saying/doing something stupid.
** Joseph has a BlackAndWhiteMorality mentality; He will treat the innocent/good seniors with kindness but ''will'' harm [[EvilOldFolks evil seniors]].
** Joseph only attacks seniors from ages 50-57.
* '''Justified''':
** The “[[EvilOldFolks senior]]” Joseph was attacking was {{e|ye for an eye}}vil.
** Joseph is a CompleteMonster.
** The seniors [[WhenEldersAttack in]] [[NeverMessWithGranny question]] are [[WorldOfBadass genuinely competent fighters]], so refusing to fight back would be downright '''stupid'''.
** Joseph is an {{ageis|m tropes}}t.
*** Alternatively [[PoliticallyCorrectVillain Joseph]] is ''[[EvenEvilHasStandards against]]'' ageism, and [[EqualOpportunityEvil thinks that giving the elderly more preferable treatment]] [[DoubleStandard is an example of it]].
** [[HatesEveryoneEqually Joseph hates everyone regardless of age]].
** [[FreudianExcuse A long time ago]] [[DarkAndTroubledPast when Joseph was a child]], [[AbusiveParents his dad kept abusing him both physically and verbally]]. Now when Joseph is [[BestServedCold finally getting his revenge on him]], his dad had already grown into a senior.
** Joseph isn’t aware of the fact that you should be respectful to the elderly, so he doesn’t know whether attacking a senior is right or wrong at all.
** Joseph is engaging in ElderAbuse.
* '''Inverted''':
** WouldHurtAChild
** [[WhenEldersAttack Joseph gets beaten up]] [[NeverMessWithGranny by the elderly]].
* '''Subverted''':
** 1.) Joseph is in a shootout, and is shown to have been willingly shooting an old man… [[BaitAndSwitch With a]] [[TranquilizerDart Tranquilizer Gun]] [[PetTheDog to prevent him from being shot by someone else]].
** 2.) The “Senior” turned out to be a robot disguised as one for [[MadScientist Doctor Bob]]’s [[ItMakesSenseInContext unknown purposes]].
** 3.) Joseph kills an old man, [[ObliviouslyEvil but]] [[LethallyStupid it]] DarthWiki/{{w|hat an idiot}}as [[AccidentalMurder by accident]].
** 4.) Joseph kills an old man, but only because he was BrainwashedAndCrazy.
* '''Double Subverted''':
** 1.) [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk The tranq gun]] [[BaitTheDog was poisoned]].
** 1.) The dose turns out to be too much for a senior, or the old man dies because he’s allergic to the drug.
** 1.) But even if it ''was'' for a [[ShootTheDog good purpose]], shooting a senior with a tranquil gun still technically qualifies for this {{trope}}, albeit a {{downplayed|Trope}} example.
** 2.) It turns out Joseph had no way of knowing the old man was a robot, and just shot it [[EvilIsFun because he wanted to]].
** 2.) …And then we see him [[MoralEventHorizon harming an actual senior]] later on within the story.
** 3.) He killed the old man by {{accident|al murder}} during his RoaringRampageOfRevenge against [[ThoseWackyNazis General Norton]], an [[EvilOldFolks evil, 75 year old]] [[ArmiesAreEvil military]] {{general|Ripper}}.
** 4.) Even when he’s not brainwashed, Joseph still WouldHarmASenior.
** Joseph mugs someone out of the blue, and then realizes it’s a senior whom he’s mugging… And then still shoots anyways [[DisproportionateRetribution all because the old man refused to pay him his Ninety bucks]].
* '''Parodied''': Joseph inflicts {{slapstick}} [[AmusingInjuries injuries]] on an old man.
* '''Zig-Zagged''':
** (Continue from the second example of #1 of {{Double Subver|sion}}ted) But Joseph didn’t know this, so it’s {{a|lternative character interpretation}}mbigious on whether Joseph WouldHarmASenior, or not.
** DependingOnTheWriter, sometimes Joseph has no qualms with attacking the elderly, while at other times, he does.
* '''Averted''': [[EveryoneHasStandards Malicious as he is, Joseph refuses to harm seniors]].
* '''Enforced''': “Joseph is a HateSink and intentionally killing seniors can serve as a KickTheDog moment for him.”
* '''Lampshaded''': “What the hell, did you just harm a [[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] ''senior'' Joseph? [[YouMonster You Heartless Bastard!]]”
* '''Invoked''':
** Joseph is a CardCarryingVillain who [[EvilIsFun sets out to be]] [[ChaoticEvil as horrifically evil as possible]] even if it meant targeting the elderly, and [[TheUnfettered refuses to have any qualms about doing so]].
** An {{Evil Old Folk|s}} goads Joseph into attacking him.
* '''Exploited''':
** [[ProfessionalKiller Jos]][[BountyHunter eph]], an [[OnlyInItForTheMoney amoral mercenary]], is [[PsychoForHire hired]] to assassinate seniors, {{evil|Old folks}} or not, due to the fact that he has no compunctions about hurting the elderly.
** [[SitcomArchNemesis Charlie]] gets a recording of [[VigilanteMan Joseph]] {{shoot|The dog}}[[AntiHero ing]] an {{Evil Old Folk|s}}, and uses the said recording to {{blackmail}} him into doing his bidding.
* '''Defied''':
** See {{Averted|Trope}}.
** TheDon [[KingOfThieves of the mafia Joseph’s in]], enforces a [[CodeOfHonor strict moral code]], in which protects seniors from getting harmed by the [[{{Gangbangers}} clan]] [[GentlemanThief members]]. ([[NobleDemon Robbing them is fair game, but using violence in any sort of way while doing so]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards isn’t]]) Those who violate the said rules will be punished via ordered “dispatched” and be iced as a result.
* '''Discussed''': “[[JerkJustifications To make money in this]] CrapsackWorld, {{A|ction girl}}li{{c|ontrasting sequel protagonist}}e you gotta steal from other people, and I will ''not'' hesitate to harm '''anyone''' who stands in the way of my thievery, be it {{wo|uld hit a girl}}men, [[WouldHurtAChild children]], and the elderly.”
* '''Conversed''': “Have you ever noticed that nearly ''everytime Joseph is on-screen'', human mortality starts skyrocketing, statistically speaking, and that he has no qualms with hurting anyone at all, even the ''elderly''?”
* '''Implied''': We see in a news report about [[SerialKiller Joseph]]’s new [[SpreeKiller killing spree]], that it took place in a bar, and we can see the corpse of an old man in [[NightmareFuel the many]] [[AtopAMountainOfCorpses piles of corpses]].
* '''Deconstructed''':
** Joseph is viewed InUniverse as a [[ThisIsUnforgivable social pariah by society]] for daring to viciously assault a senior, [[ZeroPercentApprovalRating and spends the rest of his days alone and hated]].
** Joseph beats up General Norton, an {{Evil Old Folk|s}}, [[PayEvilUntoEvil for his crimes]]. [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome However due to being a senior, Norton can’t assault Joseph back with an equal amount of brutality]]. This leads to Norton indulging in DisproportionateRetribution[=/=]NoKillLikeOverkill. (Let’s just say ordering a squadron of ProfessionalKiller EliteMooks to attack Joseph [[CrazyPrepared for]] [[TheManyDeathsOfYou example]]) NiceJobBreakingItHero.
* '''Reconstructed''': Joseph is a CardCarryingVillain who doesn’t care about, if not, ''{{en|emies equals greatness}}joys'', the hatred from society due to his evil deeds.
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* '''Straight''': [[TheMafia Joseph]] is seen mugging a 75 year old man with a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_submachine_gun Thompson submachine gun]] for an exchange of $579 in his EstablishingCharacterMoment.
* '''Exaggerated''':
** The elderly are the ''only'' people Joseph targets.
** Joseph [[CruelAndUnusualDeath horrifically murders a senior in such an inhumane way]], {{rape|Is a special kind of evil}}s [[MoralEventHorizon him]], and [[CrossesTheLineTwice eats him all to top it off]] [[EvilIsFun just because he can]].
** [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain Joseph]] is an {{ageis|m tropes}}t who wishes to exterminate all seniors.
* '''Downplayed''':
** Joseph beats up a 52 year old.
** Joseph engages in the Neglectful, Verbal, and Emotional/Psychological type of ElderAbuse. Not exactly physical abuse, but otherwise applies to the same implications of this {{trope}}.
** While Joseph [[TitleDrop would harm a senior]], he would give a less painful death/hurt the elderly in a less painful manner than adults.
** Joseph {{dope slap}}s a ScatterbrainedSenior for saying/doing something stupid.
** Joseph has a BlackAndWhiteMorality mentality; He will treat the innocent/good seniors with kindness but ''will'' harm [[EvilOldFolks evil seniors]].
** Joseph only attacks seniors from ages 50-57.
* '''Justified''':
** The “[[EvilOldFolks senior]]” Joseph was attacking was {{e|ye for an eye}}vil.
** Joseph is a CompleteMonster.
** The seniors [[WhenEldersAttack in]] [[NeverMessWithGranny question]] are [[WorldOfBadass genuinely competent fighters]], so refusing to fight back would be downright '''stupid'''.
** Joseph is an {{ageis|m tropes}}t.
*** Alternatively [[PoliticallyCorrectVillain Joseph]] is ''[[EvenEvilHasStandards against]]'' ageism, and [[EqualOpportunityEvil thinks that giving the elderly more preferable treatment]] [[DoubleStandard is an example of it]].
** [[HatesEveryoneEqually Joseph hates everyone regardless of age]].
** [[FreudianExcuse A long time ago]] [[DarkAndTroubledPast when Joseph was a child]], [[AbusiveParents his dad kept abusing him both physically and verbally]]. Now when Joseph is [[BestServedCold finally getting his revenge on him]], his dad had already grown into a senior.
** Joseph isn’t aware of the fact that you should be respectful to the elderly, so he doesn’t know whether attacking a senior is right or wrong at all.
** Joseph is engaging in ElderAbuse.
* '''Inverted''':
** WouldHurtAChild
** [[WhenEldersAttack Joseph gets beaten up]] [[NeverMessWithGranny by the elderly]].
* '''Subverted''':
** 1.) Joseph is in a shootout, and is shown to have been willingly shooting an old man… [[BaitAndSwitch With a]] [[TranquilizerDart Tranquilizer Gun]] [[PetTheDog to prevent him from being shot by someone else]].
** 2.) The “Senior” turned out to be a robot disguised as one for [[MadScientist Doctor Bob]]’s [[ItMakesSenseInContext unknown purposes]].
** 3.) Joseph kills an old man, [[ObliviouslyEvil but]] [[LethallyStupid it]] DarthWiki/{{w|hat an idiot}}as [[AccidentalMurder by accident]].
** 4.) Joseph kills an old man, but only because he was BrainwashedAndCrazy.
* '''Double Subverted''':
** 1.) [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk The tranq gun]] [[BaitTheDog was poisoned]].
** 1.) The dose turns out to be too much for a senior, or the old man dies because he’s allergic to the drug.
** 1.) But even if it ''was'' for a [[ShootTheDog good purpose]], shooting a senior with a tranquil gun still technically qualifies for this {{trope}}, albeit a {{downplayed|Trope}} example.
** 2.) It turns out Joseph had no way of knowing the old man was a robot, and just shot it [[EvilIsFun because he wanted to]].
** 2.) …And then we see him [[MoralEventHorizon harming an actual senior]] later on within the story.
** 3.) He killed the old man by {{accident|al murder}} during his RoaringRampageOfRevenge against [[ThoseWackyNazis General Norton]], an [[EvilOldFolks evil, 75 year old]] [[ArmiesAreEvil military]] {{general|Ripper}}.
** 4.) Even when he’s not brainwashed, Joseph still WouldHarmASenior.
** Joseph mugs someone out of the blue, and then realizes it’s a senior whom he’s mugging… And then still shoots anyways [[DisproportionateRetribution all because the old man refused to pay him his Ninety bucks]].
* '''Parodied''': Joseph inflicts {{slapstick}} [[AmusingInjuries injuries]] on an old man.
* '''Zig-Zagged''':
** (Continue from the second example of #1 of {{Double Subver|sion}}ted) But Joseph didn’t know this, so it’s {{a|lternative character interpretation}}mbigious on whether Joseph WouldHarmASenior, or not.
** DependingOnTheWriter, sometimes Joseph has no qualms with attacking the elderly, while at other times, he does.
* '''Averted''': [[EveryoneHasStandards Malicious as he is, Joseph refuses to harm seniors]].
* '''Enforced''': “Joseph is a HateSink and intentionally killing seniors can serve as a KickTheDog moment for him.”
* '''Lampshaded''': “What the hell, did you just harm a [[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] ''senior'' Joseph? [[YouMonster You Heartless Bastard!]]”
* '''Invoked''':
** Joseph is a CardCarryingVillain who [[EvilIsFun sets out to be]] [[ChaoticEvil as horrifically evil as possible]] even if it meant targeting the elderly, and [[TheUnfettered refuses to have any qualms about doing so]].
** An {{Evil Old Folk|s}} goads Joseph into attacking him.
* '''Exploited''':
** [[ProfessionalKiller Jos]][[BountyHunter eph]], an [[OnlyInItForTheMoney amoral mercenary]], is [[PsychoForHire hired]] to assassinate seniors, {{evil|Old folks}} or not, due to the fact that he has no compunctions about hurting the elderly.
** [[SitcomArchNemesis Charlie]] gets a recording of [[VigilanteMan Joseph]] {{shoot|The dog}}[[AntiHero ing]] an {{Evil Old Folk|s}}, and uses the said recording to {{blackmail}} him into doing his bidding.
* '''Defied''':
** See {{Averted|Trope}}.
** TheDon [[KingOfThieves of the mafia Joseph’s in]], enforces a [[CodeOfHonor strict moral code]], in which protects seniors from getting harmed by the [[{{Gangbangers}} clan]] [[GentlemanThief members]]. ([[NobleDemon Robbing them is fair game, but using violence in any sort of way while doing so]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards isn’t]]) Those who violate the said rules will be punished via ordered “dispatched” and be iced as a result.
* '''Discussed''': “[[JerkJustifications To make money in this]] CrapsackWorld, {{A|ction girl}}li{{c|ontrasting sequel protagonist}}e you gotta steal from other people, and I will ''not'' hesitate to harm '''anyone''' who stands in the way of my thievery, be it {{wo|uld hit a girl}}men, [[WouldHurtAChild children]], and the elderly.”
* '''Conversed''': “Have you ever noticed that nearly ''everytime Joseph is on-screen'', human mortality starts skyrocketing, statistically speaking, and that he has no qualms with hurting anyone at all, even the ''elderly''?”
* '''Implied''': We see in a news report about [[SerialKiller Joseph]]’s new [[SpreeKiller killing spree]], that it took place in a bar, and we can see the corpse of an old man in [[NightmareFuel the many]] [[AtopAMountainOfCorpses piles of corpses]].
* '''Deconstructed''':
** Joseph is viewed InUniverse as a [[ThisIsUnforgivable social pariah by society]] for daring to viciously assault a senior, [[ZeroPercentApprovalRating and spends the rest of his days alone and hated]].
** Joseph beats up General Norton, an {{Evil Old Folk|s}}, [[PayEvilUntoEvil for his crimes]]. [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome However due to being a senior, Norton can’t assault Joseph back with an equal amount of brutality]]. This leads to Norton indulging in DisproportionateRetribution[=/=]NoKillLikeOverkill. (Let’s just say ordering a squadron of ProfessionalKiller EliteMooks to attack Joseph [[CrazyPrepared for]] [[TheManyDeathsOfYou example]]) NiceJobBreakingItHero.
* '''Reconstructed''': Joseph is a CardCarryingVillain who doesn’t care about, if not, ''{{en|emies equals greatness}}joys'', the hatred from society due to his evil deeds.
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