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** Really, any non-major ''Frozen'' character that the writers included. The painstaking detail they put into recreating Oaken the shopkeeper and the Duke of Weselton resulted in a very cartoonish look that is bizarrely different from the show's usual tone. [[spoiler: Helga's death]] was one of the most dramatic moments of the season, but when you remember that it was instigated by the funny-looking Duke with the DodgyToupee... well, it gets a little bit harder to take it seriously.

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** Really, any non-major ''Frozen'' character that the writers included. The painstaking detail they put into recreating Oaken the shopkeeper and the Duke of Weselton resulted in a very cartoonish look that is [[NonStandardCharacterDesign bizarrely different different]] from the show's usual tone. [[spoiler: Helga's death]] was one of the most dramatic moments of the season, but when you remember that it was instigated by the funny-looking Duke with the DodgyToupee... well, it gets a little bit harder to take it seriously.
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* After so many neat twists on fairy tale and Disney canon, it's a bit silly to see Grand Pabbie from ''Frozen'' taken straight from the film. As in, it literally looks like the CGI model from the film was put directly into the live action footage.

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* After so many neat twists on fairy tale and Disney canon, it's a bit silly to see Grand Pabbie from ''Frozen'' taken straight from the film. As in, it literally looks like the CGI model from the film was put directly into the live action footage. [[UncannyValley It's incredibly jarring]] and [[SpecialEffectsFailure clashes horrendously with the live actors in the scene.]]

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* The Boob... er... Blue Fairy along with a bunch of other fairies making a bombing run with all the vigor and seriousness of an army. In their usual slippers and puffy glittery dresses. The 'bombs' are fairy dust that put the targets to sleep. Made possibly more Narm-y since it's shown alongside people fighting with swords and other weapons hacking each other to death.
* ''Any'' scene with the Blue Fairy is damaged due to her actress waving her arms at her sides, in the same way that a child may pretend to be a fairy.

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* The Boob... er... Blue Fairy er, ''Blue'' Fairy, along with a bunch of other fairies fairies, making a bombing run with all the vigor and seriousness of an army. In their usual slippers and puffy glittery dresses. The 'bombs' are fairy dust that put the targets to sleep. Made possibly [[UpToEleven more Narm-y Narm-y]] since it's shown alongside people fighting with swords and other weapons hacking each other to death.
* ''Any'' Really, ''any'' scene with the Blue Fairy is damaged due to her actress waving her arms at her sides, in the same way that a child may pretend to be a fairy.fairy, as well as her infamously silly-looking costume.



* August after [[spoiler:being turned to wood]], thanks to the dodgy CGI.
* When Mulan begins to chop down the beanstalk, Mary Margaret's [[BigNo "Nooooooooooooo!"]]

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* August after [[spoiler:being turned to wood]], wood]]; it's supposed to be [[TearJerker an emotional moment]], but it just ends up hilarious thanks to the [[SpecialEffectFailure dodgy CGI.
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* When Mulan begins to chop down the beanstalk, Mary Margaret's cry of [[BigNo "Nooooooooooooo!"]]"Nooooooooooooo!"]] can leave you laughing on the floor.



* Greg and Tamara in private, talking about "the package", asking if it's been "delivered", and if it's "secure". You're completely alone, people! Just say you have [[spoiler:freaking Hook tied up and gagged in the back of a truck]]. [[AccidentalInnuendo All that "package" talk becomes extra narmy]]. The writers could have at least tried to have one of these two lampshade how ridiculous it is to talk in code at all times.
* Tamara's magic taser (able to electrocute ''wood!'') has quickly become a joke among fans. [[WordOfGod The showrunners themselves]] have now said they [[CreatorBacklash wish they hadn't done it.]]
* Tamara and Greg strike again with their Bracelet of Science that can block Regina's magic. Really, show? '''Really?'''
** [[SubvertedTrope Fans kind of jumped the gun on this.]] The revelation that Tamara and Greg's "communicator" was really a walky-talky toy that only worked because Peter Pan wanted it to makes it clear that it's the same story with the taser and the bracelet. Greg and Tamara were naïve enough to believe it was WeirdScience that can defeat magic, when it actually was, in fact, magic itself.
* Tamara's cheesy dialogue. "Magic does not belong in this world. It's unholy. We're here to cleanse this land of it!"

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* Greg and Tamara Tamara, in private, talking about "the package", asking if it's been "delivered", and if it's "secure". You're completely alone, people! Just freaking say you have [[spoiler:freaking Hook [[spoiler:Hook tied up and gagged in the back of a truck]]. truck]]! [[AccidentalInnuendo All that "package" talk becomes extra narmy]]. The writers could have at least tried to have one of these two lampshade how ridiculous it is to talk in code at all times.
* Tamara's magic taser (able to electrocute ''wood!'') has quickly become a joke among fans. [[WordOfGod The showrunners themselves]] have now said they [[CreatorBacklash wish they hadn't done it.]]
* Tamara and Greg strike again with
]] The same goes for their Bracelet of Science that can block Regina's magic. Really, show? '''Really?'''
** [[SubvertedTrope Fans kind of jumped the gun on this.]] The revelation that Tamara and Greg's "communicator" was really a walky-talky toy that [[AWizardDidIt only worked because Peter Pan wanted it to to]] makes it clear that [[FridgeBrilliance it's the same story with the taser and the bracelet.bracelet]]. Greg and Tamara were naïve enough to believe it was WeirdScience that can defeat magic, when it actually was, in fact, magic itself.
* Tamara's cheesy dialogue. "Magic does not belong in this world. It's unholy. We're here to cleanse this land of it!" Note that Tamara had never mentioned anything about "holiness" or a lack thereof at any point prior to this scene.



* Baelfire's shock and panic upon seeing [[spoiler: Neverland. Where, exactly, did he think Peter Pan's shadow was going to take him?]]
* The moment [[TheWoobie poor Tinkerbell]] is stripped of her wings, turning her from a cheerful, kind person who tries to help everyone to a bitter cynic, is somewhat ruined by [[PantyShot her shiny green underwear]] being exposed as she faceplants into the ground.

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* Baelfire's sudden [[OhCrap shock and panic panic]] upon seeing [[spoiler: Neverland. Where, exactly, did he think ''think'' Peter Pan's shadow was going to take him?]]
* The moment [[TheWoobie poor Tinkerbell]] is [[TearJerker stripped of her wings, turning her from a cheerful, kind person who tries to help everyone to a bitter cynic, cynic]], is somewhat ruined by [[PantyShot her shiny green underwear]] being exposed as she faceplants into the ground.



* The last two acts of "Going Home" are quite dramatic and moving. Shame the effect is kind of ruined with the rampant, unapologetic use of TalkingIsAFreeAction as it seems our heroes have all the time in the world to talk through all their remaining issues even as the curse bears down on them.
* Red being awkwardly photoshopped into the scene of the main cast arriving back in the Enchanted Forest, especially since they could have just said she was with one of the other groups showing up.
* It can now be pretty hard to take the end of "Going Home" seriously, with such a huge deal being made about how everything is changing and can never be the same again, when most of it is reset in the span of just one more episode, and anything that still isn't ends up being so by the end of the season.
* [[ArtifactAlias People using the Curse Names rather than their actual names]] after the first Curse is broken can sometimes make sense (anyone calling Grumpy 'Leroy' can be handwaved by the fact 'Grumpy' is a rather iffy name, while David is both Charming's curse name and his real name, (though his ''real'' real name is Prince James) so it works either way), but anytime anyone uses 'Mary Margaret' instead of Snow White just runs straight into narm. It's made worse by the fact that Charming is the one who uses it the most despite the fact that he knew her FAR longer as Snow White (while others might have the excuse of knowing her for nearly 30 years under the curse, he was in a coma until a few months ago, but knew her for years prior), and the fact that when he ''does'' use 'Snow White', he often shortens it to just 'Snow', while any time anyone uses her Curse name it's ''always'' given in full, despite 'Mary Margaret' being a much bigger mouthful, something even she lampshades when encouraging Emma to call her 'mom'. It doesn't help that 'Mary Margaret' is borderline UnfortunateNames given how wallflowerish it is.

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* The last two acts of "Going Home" are quite dramatic and moving. Shame the effect is kind of ruined with the rampant, unapologetic use of TalkingIsAFreeAction TalkingIsAFreeAction, as it seems our heroes have all the time in the world to talk through all their remaining issues even as the curse bears down on them.
* Red being awkwardly photoshopped into ** On the scene subject of the main cast arriving back in the Enchanted Forest, especially since they could have just said she was with one of the other groups showing up.
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"Going Home", it can now be pretty hard to take the end of "Going Home" ending seriously, with such a huge deal being made about how [[NothingIsTheSameAnymore everything is changing and can never be the same again, again]], when most of it is reset [[StatusQuoIsGod reset]] in the span of just one more episode, and anything that still isn't ends up being so by the end of the season.
* Red's actress couldn't return for the scene where everyone arrives back in the Enchanted Forest due to other commitments, so the writers apparently felt the best solution was to [[SpecialEffectFailure awkwardly photoshop her into the scene of the main cast's arrival]]. It's especially amusing since they could have just said [[HandWave she was with one of the other groups showing up]].
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[[ArtifactAlias People using regularly use the Curse Names rather than their actual names]] after the first Curse is broken broken. Sometimes this can sometimes make sense (anyone sense; anyone calling Grumpy 'Leroy' can be handwaved by the fact 'Grumpy' is a rather iffy name, while David is both Charming's curse name and his real name, (though his ''real'' real name is Prince James) so it works either way), but way. But anytime anyone uses 'Mary Margaret' instead of Snow White just runs straight into narm. this trope. It's made worse by the fact that Charming is the one who uses it the most despite the fact that he knew her FAR longer as Snow White (while others might have the excuse of knowing her for nearly 30 years under the curse, he Charming was in a coma until a few months ago, but knew her for years prior), and the fact that when he ''does'' use 'Snow White', he often shortens it to just 'Snow', while any time anyone uses her Curse name it's ''always'' given in full, despite 'Mary Margaret' being a much bigger mouthful, something even she lampshades when encouraging Emma to call her 'mom'. It doesn't help that 'Mary Margaret' is borderline UnfortunateNames given how wallflowerish it is.



* While for some it may be seen as NarmCharm, the constant ice jokes in season 4 have reached [[Film/BatmanAndRobin Mr.Freeze]] levels of ridiculousness.
* Rumplestiltskin has managed to get hold of the Sorceror's Hat; when he threatens the Snow Queen in ''Family Business,'' the menacing effect is ruined by the fact that he's holding the rather childish and cartoon-like hat.
* The scene of the Snow Queen first discovering her powers, with three not-so-great child actresses saddled with Ed Wood levels of tin-eared dialogue.
* The scene at the end of "Fall" where the Spell of Shattered Sight hits Storybrook was a little over the top, if only because of how long the scene played out for, and especially since the effects of the spell itself ends up largely PlayedForLaughs in the next episode.

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* While for some it may be seen as NarmCharm, the constant ice jokes in season 4 have reached [[Film/BatmanAndRobin Mr. Freeze]] levels of ridiculousness.
* Rumplestiltskin has managed to get hold of the Sorceror's Hat; when he threatens the Snow Queen in ''Family Business,'' "Family Business", the menacing effect is ruined by the fact that he's holding the rather childish and cartoon-like hat.
* The scene of the Snow Queen first discovering her powers, with three not-so-great child actresses saddled with Ed Wood Creator/EdWood levels of tin-eared dialogue.
* The scene at the end of "Fall" where the Spell of Shattered Sight hits Storybrook was a little over the top, if only because of how long the scene played out for, and especially ''especially'' since the effects of the spell itself ends up largely PlayedForLaughs in the next episode.



* The IfYoureSoEvilEatThisKitten tests Regina is put through by the Queens of Darkness. First is taking a shot of booze, like we've wandered into an after-school special. Then there's a game of chicken where they park in front of a train and see who'll be the first to break and magically save them all, apparently never considering that a true villain would just save themselves.

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* The IfYoureSoEvilEatThisKitten tests Regina is put through by the Queens of Darkness. First is taking a shot of booze, like we've wandered into an after-school special. Then there's a game of chicken where they park in front of a train and see who'll be the first to break and magically save them all, [[FridgeLogic apparently never considering that a true villain would just save themselves.themselves]].



** Maleficent's costume design got a little better in later seasons. In her first appearance, however, her blond curls and excessive frills give her a look that reads, "[[Series/TheMuppetShow Miss Piggy]]".

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** Maleficent's costume design got a little better in later seasons. In her first appearance, however, her Maleficent's blond curls and excessive frills give her a look that reads, "[[Series/TheMuppetShow Miss Piggy]]".Piggy]]". She did get better in later appearances, though.



* Oh god the scene of Hyde/Jekyll splitting might be nightmare fuel for some but the ridiculous expressions they make during transformations! And the weird gestures with their bodies. Both men look like exaggerations of hysterical women giving birth than a human being literally ripped in two. They make Bruce Banner's transformation into a green giant look more realistic. This transformation also occurs twice and it is so obvious that they just reused the footage and as if to make it even worse, Lana Parrilla has her own version which is much better.
* The reveal that Violet's father is [[spoiler:the title character of ''Literature/AConnecticutYankeeInKingArthursCourt'']]. It starts pretty well with a subtle hint that you're free to either pick up on or not, then the very next line spells out the whole book title to a very DontExplainTheJoke effect. To be fair, many of the audience might not have been aware of the book which might have led to them wondering why this convoluted explanation for the two staying in Storybrooke was used.
* The resolution of the Season 5b finale revolves around Henry giving a speech to get the residents of New York to wish for a portal... by having them throw pennies in a ''wishing well''. It immediately drew comparisons to the climax of ''Film/{{Elf}}'' and was called out for being ridiculously unrealistic, even by ''OUAT'' standards. It hovers somewhere between this and NarmCharm.

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* Oh god god, the scene of Hyde/Jekyll splitting might be nightmare fuel NightmareFuel for some some, but the ridiculous expressions they make during transformations! And the weird gestures with their bodies. Both men look like exaggerations of hysterical women giving birth than a human being literally ripped in two. They make Bruce Banner's transformation into a green giant look more realistic. This transformation also occurs twice twice, and it is so obvious that they just reused the footage footage; and as if to make it even worse, Lana Parrilla has her own version which is much better.
* The reveal that Violet's father is [[spoiler:the title character of ''Literature/AConnecticutYankeeInKingArthursCourt'']]. It starts pretty well with a subtle hint that you're free to either pick up on or not, then the very next line spells out the whole book title to a very DontExplainTheJoke effect. To [[JustifiedTrope Though to be fair, fair]], many of in the audience might not have been aware of the book which might have led to them wondering why this convoluted explanation for the two staying in Storybrooke was used.
* The resolution of the Season 5b finale revolves around Henry giving a speech to get the residents of New York to wish for a portal... by having them throw pennies in a ''wishing well''. It immediately drew comparisons to the climax of ''Film/{{Elf}}'' and was quickly called out for being ridiculously unrealistic, even by ''OUAT'' standards. It hovers somewhere between this and NarmCharm.



* There are also numerous jokes about Hook not getting modern pop culture gags. Some work, others are incredibly forced - especially if they come during a dramatic moment. The worst one is a ''Film/StarWars'' reference while Henry and Hook are trapped in the Nautilus.

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* There are also numerous jokes about Hook not getting modern pop culture gags. Some of them work, while others are incredibly forced - especially if they come during a dramatic moment. The worst one is a ''Film/StarWars'' reference while Henry and Hook are trapped in the Nautilus.
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* The Blind Witch, who is very much like the Pale Man from ''Film/PansLabyrinth'', should be absolutely terrifying. Except that she's played by [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Anya]] and talks as if she's always orgasming.

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* The Blind Witch, who is very much like the Pale Man from ''Film/PansLabyrinth'', should be absolutely terrifying. Except that she's played by [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Anya]] An]][[Creator/EmmaCaulfield ya]] and talks as if she's always orgasming.
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* There are a couple of times in Season 6 when the Blue Fairy grows up to human size in the flashbacks. This means that all the problems with her dress become magnified.

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* There are a couple of times in Season 6 when the Blue Fairy grows up to human size in the flashbacks. This means that all the problems with her dress become magnified. She looks even worse than usual next to her evil counterpart, Fiona the Black Fairy, who many agree has [[EvilIsSexy a much more stylish dress sense]] than all the other fairies combined.
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** Maleficent's design got a little better in later seasons. In her first appearance, however, her blond curls and excessive frills give her a look that reads, "[[Series/TheMuppetShow Miss Piggy]]".

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** Maleficent's costume design got a little better in later seasons. In her first appearance, however, her blond curls and excessive frills give her a look that reads, "[[Series/TheMuppetShow Miss Piggy]]".


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** Hades looks like Creator/KevinBacon if he ate a sparkplug.

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While it is true in a meta sense that creators are rushing things, there is an actual reason in the episode for David's strained speech. He doesn


* Every time the Dark Curse is used it will always occur in the middle of a scene where the characters are having a long conversation. [[TalkingIsAFreeAction The curse only starts to work after everyone has finished speaking even though they are ALWAYS standing right next to it.]] That curse sure is polite.

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* Every time the Dark Curse is used it will always occur in the middle of a scene where the characters are having a long conversation. [[TalkingIsAFreeAction The curse only starts to work after everyone has finished speaking even though they are ALWAYS standing right next to it.]] That curse sure is polite.



* There are a couple of times in Season 6 when the Blue Fairy grows up to human size in the flashbacks. This means that all the problems with her dress become magnified.
* David's extremely strained explanation to Henry of why he, Snow, Emma, and Hook are so focused on Emma and Hook's wedding rather than her upcoming Final Battle. It's so transparent that he might as well have just said straight to the camera, "Look, this might be the end of the show, so we have to wrap this stuff up no matter how little sense it makes."

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* There are a couple of times in Season 6 when the Blue Fairy grows up to human size in the flashbacks. This means that all the problems with her dress become magnified.
* David's extremely strained explanation to Henry of why he, Snow, Emma, and Hook are so focused on Emma and Hook's wedding rather than her upcoming Final Battle. It's so transparent that he might as well have just said straight to the camera, "Look, this might be the end of the show, so we have to wrap this stuff up no matter how little sense it makes."
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* There are a couple of times in Season 6 when the Blue Fairy grows up to human size in the flashbacks. This means that all the problems with her dress become magnified.

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* There are a couple of times in Season 6 when the Blue Fairy grows up to human size in the flashbacks. This means that all the problems with her dress become magnified.magnified.
* David's extremely strained explanation to Henry of why he, Snow, Emma, and Hook are so focused on Emma and Hook's wedding rather than her upcoming Final Battle. It's so transparent that he might as well have just said straight to the camera, "Look, this might be the end of the show, so we have to wrap this stuff up no matter how little sense it makes."
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** [[Literature/TheWizardOfOz The Wizard of Oz's]] supernatural facade is represented as [[{{Music/Queen}} a little silhouetto of a man]].

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** [[Literature/TheWizardOfOz [[Film/TheWizardOfOz The Wizard of Oz's]] supernatural facade is represented as [[{{Music/Queen}} a little silhouetto of a man]].
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* Emma's shaking hand during her visions in Season 6 is way over the top, often being quite reminiscent of the "But I shoot with this hand" bit from ''Film/BlazingSaddles''.

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* Emma's shaking hand during her visions in Season 6 is way over the top, often being quite reminiscent of the "But I shoot with this hand" bit from ''Film/BlazingSaddles''.''Film/BlazingSaddles''.
* There are a couple of times in Season 6 when the Blue Fairy grows up to human size in the flashbacks. This means that all the problems with her dress become magnified.
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* There are also numerous jokes about Hook not getting modern pop culture gags. Some work, others are incredibly forced - especially if they come during a dramatic moment. The worst one is a ''Film/StarWars'' reference while Henry and Hook are trapped in the Nautilus.

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* There are also numerous jokes about Hook not getting modern pop culture gags. Some work, others are incredibly forced - especially if they come during a dramatic moment. The worst one is a ''Film/StarWars'' reference while Henry and Hook are trapped in the Nautilus.Nautilus.
* Emma's shaking hand during her visions in Season 6 is way over the top, often being quite reminiscent of the "But I shoot with this hand" bit from ''Film/BlazingSaddles''.
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* In the same episode, Ursula asks Hook if her happy ending is in his ship - as if it's a physical thing.



* The entire obsession with all Saviors being destined to die in Season 6. The way everyone talks about it, it's like they have no idea that ''everyone'' dies, and think people are like Tolkien elves, immortal unless they're killed.

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* The entire obsession with all Saviors being destined to die in Season 6. The way everyone talks about it, it's like they have no idea that ''everyone'' dies, and think people are like Tolkien elves, immortal unless they're killed.killed.
* There are also numerous jokes about Hook not getting modern pop culture gags. Some work, others are incredibly forced - especially if they come during a dramatic moment. The worst one is a ''Film/StarWars'' reference while Henry and Hook are trapped in the Nautilus.
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* Zelena carrying her "baby" at the end of the Season 6 premiere is up there with the infamous ''Film/AmericanSniper'' doll.

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* Zelena carrying her "baby" at the end of the Season 6 premiere is up there with the infamous ''Film/AmericanSniper'' doll.doll.
* The entire obsession with all Saviors being destined to die in Season 6. The way everyone talks about it, it's like they have no idea that ''everyone'' dies, and think people are like Tolkien elves, immortal unless they're killed.
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* Oh god the scene of Hyde/Jekyll splitting might be nightmare fuel for some but the ridiculous expressions they make during transformations! And the weird gestures with their bodies. Both men look like exaggerations of hysterical women giving birth than a human being literally ripped in two. They make Bruce Banner's transformation into a green giant look more realistic.

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* Oh god the scene of Hyde/Jekyll splitting might be nightmare fuel for some but the ridiculous expressions they make during transformations! And the weird gestures with their bodies. Both men look like exaggerations of hysterical women giving birth than a human being literally ripped in two. They make Bruce Banner's transformation into a green giant look more realistic. This transformation also occurs twice and it is so obvious that they just reused the footage and as if to make it even worse, Lana Parrilla has her own version which is much better.

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* The resolution of the Season 5b finale revolves around Henry giving a speech to get the residents of New York to wish for a portal... by having them throw pennies in a ''wishing well''. It immediately drew comparisons to the climax of ''Film/Elf'' and was called out for being ridiculously unrealistic, even by ''OUAT'' standards. It hovers somewhere between this and NarmCharm.

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* The resolution of the Season 5b finale revolves around Henry giving a speech to get the residents of New York to wish for a portal... by having them throw pennies in a ''wishing well''. It immediately drew comparisons to the climax of ''Film/Elf'' ''Film/{{Elf}}'' and was called out for being ridiculously unrealistic, even by ''OUAT'' standards. It hovers somewhere between this and NarmCharm.NarmCharm.
* Zelena carrying her "baby" at the end of the Season 6 premiere is up there with the infamous ''Film/AmericanSniper'' doll.
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* Oh god the scene of Hyde/Jekyll splitting might be nightmare fuel for some but the ridiculous expressions they make during transformations! And the weird gestures with their bodies. Both men look like exaggerations of hysterical women giving birth than a human being literally ripped in two. They make Bruce Banner's transformation into a green giant look more realistic.
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The actress dyed her hair for the role, it wasn't a wig, don't know what the troper who wrote this saw but it wasn't a moving wig.


* In one scene of "The Bear and the Bow," Merida scratches her head and her entire wig moves. Not that it was exactly convincing in the first place, but no one thought that merited a reshoot?
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In OUAT a happy ending is a thing, and it's been referred to as such since season 1, there's no reason to call it out now 3 seasons later, and if it's narm than ALL of season 1 is too since all they talk about is "returning the happy endings to the people of the Enchanted Forest" "Restoring the happy endings Regina stole" etc.


* The rather on-the-nose dialogue in the second arc of Season 4, with characters outright referring to each other as "the heroes" and "the villains." Likewise talking about a "happy ending" as if it's a physical thing. For example Ursula asks Hook if her happy ending is in his ship.

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* [[ArtifactAlias People using the Curse Names rather than their actual names]] after the first Curse is broken can sometimes make sense (anyone calling Grumpy 'Leroy' can be handwaved by the fact 'Grumpy' is a rather iffy name, while David is both Charming's curse name and his real name, (though his ''real'' real name is Prince James) so it works either way), but anytime anyone uses 'Mary Margaret' instead of Snow White just runs straight into narm. It's made worse by the fact that Charming is the one who uses it the most despite the fact that he knew her FAR longer as Snow White (while others might have the excuse of knowing her for nearly 30 years under the curse, he was in a coma until a few months ago, but knew her for years prior), and the fact that when he ''does'' use 'Snow White', he often shortens it to just 'Snow', while any time anyone uses her Curse name it's ''always'' given in full, despite 'Mary Margaret' being a much bigger mouthful, something even she lampshades when encouraging Emma to call her 'mom'. It doesn't help that 'Mary Margaret' is borderline UnfortunateNames given how wallflowerish it is.



* [[ArtifactAlias People using the Curse Names rather than their actual names]] after the first Curse is broken can sometimes make sense (anyone calling Grumpy 'Leroy' can be handwaved by the fact 'Grumpy' is a rather iffy name, while David is both Charming's curse name and his real name, (though his ''real'' real name is Prince James) so it works either way), but anytime anyone uses 'Mary Margaret' instead of Snow White just runs straight into narm. It's made worse by the fact that Charming is the one who uses it the most despite the fact that he knew her FAR longer as Snow White (while others might have the excuse of knowing her for nearly 30 years under the curse, he was in a coma until a few months ago, but knew her for years prior), and the fact that when he ''does'' use 'Snow White', he often shortens it to just 'Snow', while any time anyone uses her Curse name it's ''always'' given in full, despite 'Mary Margaret' being a much bigger mouthful, something even she lampshades when encouraging Emma to call her 'mom'. It doesn't help that 'Mary Margaret' is borderline UnfortunateNames given how wallflowrish it is.
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** Literature/TheWizardOfOz 's supernatural facade is represented as [[{{Music/Queen}} a little silhouetto of a man]].

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** Literature/TheWizardOfOz 's [[Literature/TheWizardOfOz The Wizard of Oz's]] supernatural facade is represented as [[{{Music/Queen}} a little silhouetto of a man]].

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* ''Any'' scene with the Blue Fairy is damaged due to her actress waving her arms at her sides, in the same way that a child may pretend to be a fairy.



* ''Any'' scene with the Blue Fairy is damaged due to her actress waving her arms at her sides, in the same way that a child may pretend to be a fairy.

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* ''Any'' scene with the Blue Fairy is damaged due to her actress waving her arms at her sides, in the same way that a child may pretend to be a fairy.



* ''Any'' scene with the Blue Fairy is damaged due to her actress waving her arms at her sides, in the same way that a child may pretend to be a fairy.
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* Rumplestiltskin has managed to get hold of the Sorceror's Hat; when he threatens the Snow Queen in ''Family Business,'' the menacing effect is ruined by the fact that he's holding the rather childish and cartoon like hat.

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* Greg and Tamara in private, talking about "the package", asking if it's been "delivered", and if it's "secure". You're completely alone, people! Just say you have [[spoiler:freaking Hook tied up and gagged in the back of a truck]]. [[AccidentalInnuendo All that "package" talk becomes extra narmy]]. The writers could have at least tried to have one of these two lampshade how ridiculous it is to talk in code at all times.



* Greg and Tamara in private, talking about "the package", asking if it's been "delivered", and if it's "secure". You're completely alone, people! Just say you have [[spoiler:freaking Hook tied up and gagged in the back of a truck]]. [[AccidentalInnuendo All that "package" talk becomes extra narmy]]. The writers could have at least tried to have one of these two lampshade how ridiculous it is to talk in code at all times.
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** Every time the Dark Curse is used it will always occur in the middle of a scene where the characters are having a long conversation. [[TalkingIsAFreeAction The curse only starts to work after everyone has finished speaking even though they are ALWAYS standing right next to it.]] That curse sure is polite.
** The Blind Witch, who is very much like the Pale Man from ''Film/PansLabyrinth'', should be absolutely terrifying. Except that she's played by [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Anya]] and talks as if she's always orgasming.
** Prince Charming on Abigail and Frederick: "Have you tried true love's kiss?" Sure, that's a well-known cure for curses in the Enchanted Forest, but it sounds like he's recommending chicken soup for a cold or something.
** The Boob... er... Blue Fairy along with a bunch of other fairies making a bombing run with all the vigor and seriousness of an army. In their usual slippers and puffy glittery dresses. The 'bombs' are fairy dust that put the targets to sleep. Made possibly more Narm-y since it's shown alongside people fighting with swords and other weapons hacking each other to death.
** The ending of "An Apple Red As Blood". All things considered, a magical apple turnover just lacks a certain amount of dramatic gravitas.
** August after [[spoiler:being turned to wood]], thanks to the dodgy CGI.
** When Mulan begins to chop down the beanstalk, Mary Margaret's [[BigNo "Nooooooooooooo!"]]
*** Ginnifer Goodwin has a lot of moments like this, where emotional yelling ends up just sounding [[LargeHam absurdly hammy.]]
** Tamara's magic taser (able to electrocute ''wood!'') has quickly become a joke among fans. [[WordOfGod The showrunners themselves]] have now said they [[CreatorBacklash wish they hadn't done it.]]
** Greg and Tamara in private, talking about "the package", asking if it's been "delivered", and if it's "secure". You're completely alone, people! Just say you have [[spoiler:freaking Hook tied up and gagged in the back of a truck]]. [[AccidentalInnuendo All that "package" talk becomes extra narmy]]. The writers could have at least tried to have one of these two lampshade how ridiculous it is to talk in code at all times.
** Tamara and Greg strike again with their Bracelet of Science that can block Regina's magic. Really, show? '''Really?'''
*** [[SubvertedTrope Fans kind of jumped the gun on this.]] The revelation that Tamara and Greg's "communicator" was really a walky-talky toy that only worked because Peter Pan wanted it to makes it clear that it's the same story with the taser and the bracelet. Greg and Tamara were naïve enough to believe it was WeirdScience that can defeat magic, when it actually was, in fact, magic itself.
** Tamara's cheesy dialogue. "Magic does not belong in this world. It's unholy. We're here to cleanse this land of it!"
** Greg in general has moments of this by just the way he looks and talks. Mention must go to him stammering "She was the-the-da queen! The-the evil queen!" in response to Tamara asking which fairy tale character Regina was, making comebacks like "No, you don't know who YOU are dealing with!", him wildly digging for his father's remains while saying "no no no no no no!", and the expression he makes right before the shadow comes down and kills him.
*** "THAT'S SCARY, AIN'T IT?!?!?!"
** Baelfire's shock and panic upon seeing [[spoiler: Neverland. Where, exactly, did he think Peter Pan's shadow was going to take him?]]
** The moment [[TheWoobie poor Tinkerbell]] is stripped of her wings, turning her from a cheerful, kind person who tries to help everyone to a bitter cynic, is somewhat ruined by [[PantyShot her shiny green underwear]] being exposed as she faceplants into the ground.
** Killian Jones' hammy RousingSpeech to his crew when he first becomes a pirate (complete with throwing off his coat) was the source of much amusement for many viewers.
** The last two acts of "Going Home" are quite dramatic and moving. Shame the effect is kind of ruined with the rampant, unapologetic use of TalkingIsAFreeAction as it seems our heroes have all the time in the world to talk through all their remaining issues even as the curse bears down on them.
** Red being awkwardly photoshopped into the scene of the main cast arriving back in the Enchanted Forest, especially since they could have just said she was with one of the other groups showing up.
** It can now be pretty hard to take the end of "Going Home" seriously, with such a huge deal being made about how everything is changing and can never be the same again, when most of it is reset in the span of just one more episode, and anything that still isn't ends up being so by the end of the season.
** After so many neat twists on fairy tale and Disney canon, it's a bit silly to see Grand Pabbie from ''Frozen'' taken straight from the film. As in, it literally looks like the CGI model from the film was put directly into the live action footage.
*** Really, any non-major ''Frozen'' character that the writers included. The painstaking detail they put into recreating Oaken the shopkeeper and the Duke of Weselton resulted in a very cartoonish look that is bizarrely different from the show's usual tone. [[spoiler: Helga's death]] was one of the most dramatic moments of the season, but when you remember that it was instigated by the funny-looking Duke with the DodgyToupee... well, it gets a little bit harder to take it seriously.
** Hook attempting to dig Emma out of the ice with his hook. Yeah, he's desperate, but really now. Even David has to stop him and point out that it's useless.
** While for some it may be seen as NarmCharm, the constant ice jokes in season 4 have reached [[Film/BatmanAndRobin Mr.Freeze]] levels of ridiculousness.
** Rumplestiltskin has managed to get hold of the Sorceror's Hat; when he threatens the Snow Queen in ''Family Business,'' the menacing effect is ruined by the fact that he's holding the rather childish and cartoon like hat.
** The scene of the Snow Queen first discovering her powers, with three not-so-great child actresses saddled with Ed Wood levels of tin-eared dialogue.
** The scene at the end of "Fall" where the Spell of Shattered Sight hits Storybrook was a little over the top, if only because of how long the scene played out for, and especially since the effects of the spell itself ends up largely PlayedForLaughs in the next episode.
*** And during that aforementioned incident, we have [[SarcasmMode an incredibly suspenseful, action packed sequence]] involving Hook attempting to kidnap Henry [[spoiler: while under Rumple's control]]. Unfortunately for our favorite guyliner-toting swashbuckler, Henry is all too prepared for someone to betray him. After a series of childish taunts and comebacks, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5tRMK9VffA Hook is at his wit's end and breaks in with a magic potion]] - only to fall victim to a simplistic trap that makes Kevin [=McCallister=]'s handiwork look like a Nobel prize-winning exercise in engineering. What ''really'' pushes it into Narm territory is the way Hook flies in the air and lands on his ass in the most unrealistic and un-badass way possible, followed immediately by a shot of his ridiculously over the top grimace while Henry dashes out. And once Will enters the picture - well, you've got one of the Narmiest moments in a series defined by NarmCharm!
** With the reveal that there are multiple copies of the "Once Upon a Time" book, Regina's search for the author bears quite a distracting resemblance to the MythArc of ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls''.
** After Cruella and Maleficent show off some impressive abilities to help Rumple get the Dark Curse, Ursula's contribution is simply to pick it up with one of her tentacles, with no explanation of why or even if this was necessary.
** ''Any'' scene with the Blue Fairy is damaged due to her actress waving her arms at her sides, in the same way that a child may pretend to be a fairy.
** The IfYoureSoEvilEatThisKitten tests Regina is put through by the Queens of Darkness. First is taking a shot of booze, like we've wandered into an after-school special. Then there's a game of chicken where they park in front of a train and see who'll be the first to break and magically save them all, apparently never considering that a true villain would just save themselves.
** In ''Poor Unfortunate Soul'', Rumple tortures August into giving him and the Evil Queens information. How does he do this? By holding August in front of a fire, so that if he lies and his nose grows, his nose will be burnt off.
** In "Best Laid Plans", we see how Cruella and Ursula get to our world [[spoiler:by standing there yelling at Snow and Charming until they accidentally get sucked into the portal along with Maleficent's baby.]]
** Season 4B's talk of heroes and villains as though they were [[BlackAndWhiteMorality fixed, immutable concepts]] can come off as slightly ridiculous, given previous arcs' love of [[TragicVillain tragic]] [[AntiVillain anti-villains]].
** The season 4 finale has Henry being chained up about to be fed to an ogre. Jared Gilmore calls for help as "[[DullSurprise desperately]]" as he can.
** Some villains fail at looking appropriately menacing. For example:
*** Peter Pan's shadow looks like a naked Jawa.
*** Malcolm looks like Russell Crowe with flapper hair.
*** Zelena looks like ComicBook/TheMask.
*** Maleficent's design got a little better in later seasons. In her first appearance, however, her blond curls and excessive frills give her a look that reads, "[[Series/TheMuppetShow Miss Piggy]]".
*** Literature/TheWizardOfOz 's supernatural facade is represented as [[{{Music/Queen}} a little silhouetto of a man]].
** Emma's hair once she fully embraces the Darkness; it looks like it's been sprayed white with hair spray.
** In one scene of "The Bear and the Bow," Merida scratches her head and her entire wig moves. Not that it was exactly convincing in the first place, but no one thought that merited a reshoot?
** After Merida kidnaps Belle, not a single one of the heroes seems to give a damn about her disappearance and just go on their merry way fighting Arthur without so much as a single line acknowledging it. It gets even funnier when you remember [[Series/{{Lost}} this isn't even the first time this has happened to Emilie de Raven]].
** In the Season 5 Winter finale there's a shot of Emma hearing Henry screaming for help from outside. Next shot is her running outside and Henry is standing there completely expressionless. MoodWhiplash much?
** The rather on-the-nose dialogue in the second arc of Season 4, with characters outright referring to each other as "the heroes" and "the villains." Likewise talking about a "happy ending" as if it's a physical thing. For example Ursula asks Hook if her happy ending is in his ship.
** Season 5 features some rather excessive flowery dialogue from all the characters. How about Hook's father talking about "while I slumbered"?
** Rebecca Mader is usually good when she's throwing sarcastic barbs at everyone else. However in Season 5 when she has to show genuine emotion and make us feel sorry for Zelena? It results in {{Narm}}. This one, at least, improves over time, with her being on par with the rest of the cast by the end of the season.
** [[ArtifactAlias People using the Curse Names rather than their actual names]] after the first Curse is broken can sometimes make sense (anyone calling Grumpy 'Leroy' can be handwaved by the fact 'Grumpy' is a rather iffy name, while David is both Charming's curse name and his real name, (though his ''real'' real name is Prince James) so it works either way), but anytime anyone uses 'Mary Margaret' instead of Snow White just runs straight into narm. It's made worse by the fact that Charming is the one who uses it the most despite the fact that he knew her FAR longer as Snow White (while others might have the excuse of knowing her for nearly 30 years under the curse, he was in a coma until a few months ago, but knew her for years prior), and the fact that when he ''does'' use 'Snow White', he often shortens it to just 'Snow', while any time anyone uses her Curse name it's ''always'' given in full, despite 'Mary Margaret' being a much bigger mouthful, something even she lampshades when encouraging Emma to call her 'mom'. It doesn't help that 'Mary Margaret' is borderline UnfortunateNames given how wallflowrish it is.
** Hades' blue CGI flaming hair shows that the producers didn't learn their lesson at all from the above-mentioned ''Frozen'' arc; namely how something that looks fine in a cartoon doesn't necessarily translate well to live action. Not helping is the fact that the first time it happens, it appears to have absolutely no in-universe reason, existing entirely to confirm for the audience who he is.
** The reveal that Violet's father is [[spoiler:the title character of ''Literature/AConnecticutYankeeInKingArthursCourt'']]. It starts pretty well with a subtle hint that you're free to either pick up on or not, then the very next line spells out the whole book title to a very DontExplainTheJoke effect. To be fair, many of the audience might not have been aware of the book which might have led to them wondering why this convoluted explanation for the two staying in Storybrooke was used.
** The resolution of the Season 5b finale revolves around Henry giving a speech to get the residents of New York to wish for a portal... by having them throw pennies in a ''wishing well''. It immediately drew comparisons to the climax of ''Film/Elf'' and was called out for being ridiculously unrealistic, even by ''OUAT'' standards. It hovers somewhere between this and NarmCharm.

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** * Every time the Dark Curse is used it will always occur in the middle of a scene where the characters are having a long conversation. [[TalkingIsAFreeAction The curse only starts to work after everyone has finished speaking even though they are ALWAYS standing right next to it.]] That curse sure is polite.
** * The Blind Witch, who is very much like the Pale Man from ''Film/PansLabyrinth'', should be absolutely terrifying. Except that she's played by [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Anya]] and talks as if she's always orgasming.
** * Prince Charming on Abigail and Frederick: "Have you tried true love's kiss?" Sure, that's a well-known cure for curses in the Enchanted Forest, but it sounds like he's recommending chicken soup for a cold or something.
** * The Boob... er... Blue Fairy along with a bunch of other fairies making a bombing run with all the vigor and seriousness of an army. In their usual slippers and puffy glittery dresses. The 'bombs' are fairy dust that put the targets to sleep. Made possibly more Narm-y since it's shown alongside people fighting with swords and other weapons hacking each other to death.
** * The ending of "An Apple Red As Blood". All things considered, a magical apple turnover just lacks a certain amount of dramatic gravitas.
** * August after [[spoiler:being turned to wood]], thanks to the dodgy CGI.
** * When Mulan begins to chop down the beanstalk, Mary Margaret's [[BigNo "Nooooooooooooo!"]]
*** ** Ginnifer Goodwin has a lot of moments like this, where emotional yelling ends up just sounding [[LargeHam absurdly hammy.]]
** * Tamara's magic taser (able to electrocute ''wood!'') has quickly become a joke among fans. [[WordOfGod The showrunners themselves]] have now said they [[CreatorBacklash wish they hadn't done it.]]
** * Greg and Tamara in private, talking about "the package", asking if it's been "delivered", and if it's "secure". You're completely alone, people! Just say you have [[spoiler:freaking Hook tied up and gagged in the back of a truck]]. [[AccidentalInnuendo All that "package" talk becomes extra narmy]]. The writers could have at least tried to have one of these two lampshade how ridiculous it is to talk in code at all times.
** * Tamara and Greg strike again with their Bracelet of Science that can block Regina's magic. Really, show? '''Really?'''
*** ** [[SubvertedTrope Fans kind of jumped the gun on this.]] The revelation that Tamara and Greg's "communicator" was really a walky-talky toy that only worked because Peter Pan wanted it to makes it clear that it's the same story with the taser and the bracelet. Greg and Tamara were naïve enough to believe it was WeirdScience that can defeat magic, when it actually was, in fact, magic itself.
** * Tamara's cheesy dialogue. "Magic does not belong in this world. It's unholy. We're here to cleanse this land of it!"
** * Greg in general has moments of this by just the way he looks and talks. Mention must go to him stammering "She was the-the-da queen! The-the evil queen!" in response to Tamara asking which fairy tale character Regina was, making comebacks like "No, you don't know who YOU are dealing with!", him wildly digging for his father's remains while saying "no no no no no no!", and the expression he makes right before the shadow comes down and kills him.
*** ** "THAT'S SCARY, AIN'T IT?!?!?!"
** * Baelfire's shock and panic upon seeing [[spoiler: Neverland. Where, exactly, did he think Peter Pan's shadow was going to take him?]]
** * The moment [[TheWoobie poor Tinkerbell]] is stripped of her wings, turning her from a cheerful, kind person who tries to help everyone to a bitter cynic, is somewhat ruined by [[PantyShot her shiny green underwear]] being exposed as she faceplants into the ground.
** * Killian Jones' hammy RousingSpeech to his crew when he first becomes a pirate (complete with throwing off his coat) was the source of much amusement for many viewers.
** * The last two acts of "Going Home" are quite dramatic and moving. Shame the effect is kind of ruined with the rampant, unapologetic use of TalkingIsAFreeAction as it seems our heroes have all the time in the world to talk through all their remaining issues even as the curse bears down on them.
** * Red being awkwardly photoshopped into the scene of the main cast arriving back in the Enchanted Forest, especially since they could have just said she was with one of the other groups showing up.
** * It can now be pretty hard to take the end of "Going Home" seriously, with such a huge deal being made about how everything is changing and can never be the same again, when most of it is reset in the span of just one more episode, and anything that still isn't ends up being so by the end of the season.
** * After so many neat twists on fairy tale and Disney canon, it's a bit silly to see Grand Pabbie from ''Frozen'' taken straight from the film. As in, it literally looks like the CGI model from the film was put directly into the live action footage.
*** ** Really, any non-major ''Frozen'' character that the writers included. The painstaking detail they put into recreating Oaken the shopkeeper and the Duke of Weselton resulted in a very cartoonish look that is bizarrely different from the show's usual tone. [[spoiler: Helga's death]] was one of the most dramatic moments of the season, but when you remember that it was instigated by the funny-looking Duke with the DodgyToupee... well, it gets a little bit harder to take it seriously.
** * Hook attempting to dig Emma out of the ice with his hook. Yeah, he's desperate, but really now. Even David has to stop him and point out that it's useless.
** * While for some it may be seen as NarmCharm, the constant ice jokes in season 4 have reached [[Film/BatmanAndRobin Mr.Freeze]] levels of ridiculousness.
** * Rumplestiltskin has managed to get hold of the Sorceror's Hat; when he threatens the Snow Queen in ''Family Business,'' the menacing effect is ruined by the fact that he's holding the rather childish and cartoon like hat.
** * The scene of the Snow Queen first discovering her powers, with three not-so-great child actresses saddled with Ed Wood levels of tin-eared dialogue.
** * The scene at the end of "Fall" where the Spell of Shattered Sight hits Storybrook was a little over the top, if only because of how long the scene played out for, and especially since the effects of the spell itself ends up largely PlayedForLaughs in the next episode.
*** ** And during that aforementioned incident, we have [[SarcasmMode an incredibly suspenseful, action packed sequence]] involving Hook attempting to kidnap Henry [[spoiler: while under Rumple's control]]. Unfortunately for our favorite guyliner-toting swashbuckler, Henry is all too prepared for someone to betray him. After a series of childish taunts and comebacks, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5tRMK9VffA Hook is at his wit's end and breaks in with a magic potion]] - only to fall victim to a simplistic trap that makes Kevin [=McCallister=]'s handiwork look like a Nobel prize-winning exercise in engineering. What ''really'' pushes it into Narm territory is the way Hook flies in the air and lands on his ass in the most unrealistic and un-badass way possible, followed immediately by a shot of his ridiculously over the top grimace while Henry dashes out. And once Will enters the picture - well, you've got one of the Narmiest moments in a series defined by NarmCharm!
** * With the reveal that there are multiple copies of the "Once Upon a Time" book, Regina's search for the author bears quite a distracting resemblance to the MythArc of ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls''.
** * After Cruella and Maleficent show off some impressive abilities to help Rumple get the Dark Curse, Ursula's contribution is simply to pick it up with one of her tentacles, with no explanation of why or even if this was necessary.
** * ''Any'' scene with the Blue Fairy is damaged due to her actress waving her arms at her sides, in the same way that a child may pretend to be a fairy.
** * The IfYoureSoEvilEatThisKitten tests Regina is put through by the Queens of Darkness. First is taking a shot of booze, like we've wandered into an after-school special. Then there's a game of chicken where they park in front of a train and see who'll be the first to break and magically save them all, apparently never considering that a true villain would just save themselves.
** * In ''Poor Unfortunate Soul'', Rumple tortures August into giving him and the Evil Queens information. How does he do this? By holding August in front of a fire, so that if he lies and his nose grows, his nose will be burnt off.
** * In "Best Laid Plans", we see how Cruella and Ursula get to our world [[spoiler:by standing there yelling at Snow and Charming until they accidentally get sucked into the portal along with Maleficent's baby.]]
** * Season 4B's talk of heroes and villains as though they were [[BlackAndWhiteMorality fixed, immutable concepts]] can come off as slightly ridiculous, given previous arcs' love of [[TragicVillain tragic]] [[AntiVillain anti-villains]].
** * The season 4 finale has Henry being chained up about to be fed to an ogre. Jared Gilmore calls for help as "[[DullSurprise desperately]]" as he can.
** * Some villains fail at looking appropriately menacing. For example:
*** ** Peter Pan's shadow looks like a naked Jawa.
*** ** Malcolm looks like Russell Crowe with flapper hair.
*** ** Zelena looks like ComicBook/TheMask.
*** ** Maleficent's design got a little better in later seasons. In her first appearance, however, her blond curls and excessive frills give her a look that reads, "[[Series/TheMuppetShow Miss Piggy]]".
*** ** Literature/TheWizardOfOz 's supernatural facade is represented as [[{{Music/Queen}} a little silhouetto of a man]].
** * Emma's hair once she fully embraces the Darkness; it looks like it's been sprayed white with hair spray.
** * In one scene of "The Bear and the Bow," Merida scratches her head and her entire wig moves. Not that it was exactly convincing in the first place, but no one thought that merited a reshoot?
** * After Merida kidnaps Belle, not a single one of the heroes seems to give a damn about her disappearance and just go on their merry way fighting Arthur without so much as a single line acknowledging it. It gets even funnier when you remember [[Series/{{Lost}} this isn't even the first time this has happened to Emilie de Raven]].
** * In the Season 5 Winter finale there's a shot of Emma hearing Henry screaming for help from outside. Next shot is her running outside and Henry is standing there completely expressionless. MoodWhiplash much?
** * The rather on-the-nose dialogue in the second arc of Season 4, with characters outright referring to each other as "the heroes" and "the villains." Likewise talking about a "happy ending" as if it's a physical thing. For example Ursula asks Hook if her happy ending is in his ship.
** * Season 5 features some rather excessive flowery dialogue from all the characters. How about Hook's father talking about "while I slumbered"?
** * Rebecca Mader is usually good when she's throwing sarcastic barbs at everyone else. However in Season 5 when she has to show genuine emotion and make us feel sorry for Zelena? It results in {{Narm}}. This one, at least, improves over time, with her being on par with the rest of the cast by the end of the season.
** * [[ArtifactAlias People using the Curse Names rather than their actual names]] after the first Curse is broken can sometimes make sense (anyone calling Grumpy 'Leroy' can be handwaved by the fact 'Grumpy' is a rather iffy name, while David is both Charming's curse name and his real name, (though his ''real'' real name is Prince James) so it works either way), but anytime anyone uses 'Mary Margaret' instead of Snow White just runs straight into narm. It's made worse by the fact that Charming is the one who uses it the most despite the fact that he knew her FAR longer as Snow White (while others might have the excuse of knowing her for nearly 30 years under the curse, he was in a coma until a few months ago, but knew her for years prior), and the fact that when he ''does'' use 'Snow White', he often shortens it to just 'Snow', while any time anyone uses her Curse name it's ''always'' given in full, despite 'Mary Margaret' being a much bigger mouthful, something even she lampshades when encouraging Emma to call her 'mom'. It doesn't help that 'Mary Margaret' is borderline UnfortunateNames given how wallflowrish it is.
** * Hades' blue CGI flaming hair shows that the producers didn't learn their lesson at all from the above-mentioned ''Frozen'' arc; namely how something that looks fine in a cartoon doesn't necessarily translate well to live action. Not helping is the fact that the first time it happens, it appears to have absolutely no in-universe reason, existing entirely to confirm for the audience who he is.
** * The reveal that Violet's father is [[spoiler:the title character of ''Literature/AConnecticutYankeeInKingArthursCourt'']]. It starts pretty well with a subtle hint that you're free to either pick up on or not, then the very next line spells out the whole book title to a very DontExplainTheJoke effect. To be fair, many of the audience might not have been aware of the book which might have led to them wondering why this convoluted explanation for the two staying in Storybrooke was used.
** * The resolution of the Season 5b finale revolves around Henry giving a speech to get the residents of New York to wish for a portal... by having them throw pennies in a ''wishing well''. It immediately drew comparisons to the climax of ''Film/Elf'' and was called out for being ridiculously unrealistic, even by ''OUAT'' standards. It hovers somewhere between this and NarmCharm.

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** The Blind Witch, who is very much like the Pale Man from ''Film/PansLabyrinth'', should be absolutely terrifying. Except that she's played by [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Anya]] and talks as if she's always orgasming.



** The Blind Witch, who is very much like the Pale Man from ''Film/PansLabyrinth'', should be absolutely terrifying. Except that she's played by [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Anya]] and talks as if she's always orgasming.
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*** And during that aforementioned incident, we have [[SarcasmMode an incredibly suspenseful, action packed sequence]] involving Hook attempting to kidnap Henry [[spoiler: while under Rumple's control]]. Unfortunately for our favorite guyliner-toting swashbuckler, Henry is all too prepared for someone to betray him. After a series of childish taunts and comebacks, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5tRMK9VffA Hook is at his wit's end and breaks in with a magic potion]] - only to fall victim to a simplistic trap that makes Kevin McCallister's handiwork look like a Nobel prize-winning exercise in engineering. What ''really'' pushes it into Narm territory is the way Hook flies in the air and lands on his ass in the most unrealistic and un-badass way possible, followed immediately by a shot of his ridiculously over the top grimace while Henry dashes out. And once Will enters the picture - well, you've got one of the Narmiest moments in a series defined by NarmCharm!

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*** And during that aforementioned incident, we have [[SarcasmMode an incredibly suspenseful, action packed sequence]] involving Hook attempting to kidnap Henry [[spoiler: while under Rumple's control]]. Unfortunately for our favorite guyliner-toting swashbuckler, Henry is all too prepared for someone to betray him. After a series of childish taunts and comebacks, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5tRMK9VffA Hook is at his wit's end and breaks in with a magic potion]] - only to fall victim to a simplistic trap that makes Kevin McCallister's [=McCallister=]'s handiwork look like a Nobel prize-winning exercise in engineering. What ''really'' pushes it into Narm territory is the way Hook flies in the air and lands on his ass in the most unrealistic and un-badass way possible, followed immediately by a shot of his ridiculously over the top grimace while Henry dashes out. And once Will enters the picture - well, you've got one of the Narmiest moments in a series defined by NarmCharm!
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*** Literature/TheWizardofOz 's supernatural facade is represented as [[{{Music/Queen}} a little silhouetto of a man]].

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** Prince Charming on Abigail and Frederick: "Have you tried true love's kiss?" Sure, that's a well-known cure for curses in the Enchanted Forest, but it sounds like he's recommending chicken soup for a cold or something.
** The Blind Witch, who is very much like the Pale Man from ''Film/PansLabyrinth'', should be absolutely terrifying. Except that she's played by [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Anya]] and talks as if she's always orgasming.
** The Boob... er... Blue Fairy along with a bunch of other fairies making a bombing run with all the vigor and seriousness of an army. In their usual slippers and puffy glittery dresses. The 'bombs' are fairy dust that put the targets to sleep. Made possibly more Narm-y since it's shown alongside people fighting with swords and other weapons hacking each other to death.
** The ending of "An Apple Red As Blood". All things considered, a magical apple turnover just lacks a certain amount of dramatic gravitas.
** August after [[spoiler:being turned to wood]], thanks to the dodgy CGI.
** When Mulan begins to chop down the beanstalk, Mary Margaret's [[BigNo "Nooooooooooooo!"]]
*** Ginnifer Goodwin has a lot of moments like this, where emotional yelling ends up just sounding [[LargeHam absurdly hammy.]]
** Tamara's magic taser (able to electrocute ''wood!'') has quickly become a joke among fans. [[WordOfGod The showrunners themselves]] have now said they [[CreatorBacklash wish they hadn't done it.]]
** Greg and Tamara in private, talking about "the package", asking if it's been "delivered", and if it's "secure". You're completely alone, people! Just say you have [[spoiler:freaking Hook tied up and gagged in the back of a truck]]. [[AccidentalInnuendo All that "package" talk becomes extra narmy]]. The writers could have at least tried to have one of these two lampshade how ridiculous it is to talk in code at all times.
** Tamara and Greg strike again with their Bracelet of Science that can block Regina's magic. Really, show? '''Really?'''
*** [[SubvertedTrope Fans kind of jumped the gun on this.]] The revelation that Tamara and Greg's "communicator" was really a walky-talky toy that only worked because Peter Pan wanted it to makes it clear that it's the same story with the taser and the bracelet. Greg and Tamara were naïve enough to believe it was WeirdScience that can defeat magic, when it actually was, in fact, magic itself.
** Tamara's cheesy dialogue. "Magic does not belong in this world. It's unholy. We're here to cleanse this land of it!"
** Greg in general has moments of this by just the way he looks and talks. Mention must go to him stammering "She was the-the-da queen! The-the evil queen!" in response to Tamara asking which fairy tale character Regina was, making comebacks like "No, you don't know who YOU are dealing with!", him wildly digging for his father's remains while saying "no no no no no no!", and the expression he makes right before the shadow comes down and kills him.
*** "THAT'S SCARY, AIN'T IT?!?!?!"
** Baelfire's shock and panic upon seeing [[spoiler: Neverland. Where, exactly, did he think Peter Pan's shadow was going to take him?]]
** The moment [[TheWoobie poor Tinkerbell]] is stripped of her wings, turning her from a cheerful, kind person who tries to help everyone to a bitter cynic, is somewhat ruined by [[PantyShot her shiny green underwear]] being exposed as she faceplants into the ground.
** Killian Jones' hammy RousingSpeech to his crew when he first becomes a pirate (complete with throwing off his coat) was the source of much amusement for many viewers.
** The last two acts of "Going Home" are quite dramatic and moving. Shame the effect is kind of ruined with the rampant, unapologetic use of TalkingIsAFreeAction as it seems our heroes have all the time in the world to talk through all their remaining issues even as the curse bears down on them.
** Red being awkwardly photoshopped into the scene of the main cast arriving back in the Enchanted Forest, especially since they could have just said she was with one of the other groups showing up.
** It can now be pretty hard to take the end of "Going Home" seriously, with such a huge deal being made about how everything is changing and can never be the same again, when most of it is reset in the span of just one more episode, and anything that still isn't ends up being so by the end of the season.
** After so many neat twists on fairy tale and Disney canon, it's a bit silly to see Grand Pabbie from ''Frozen'' taken straight from the film. As in, it literally looks like the CGI model from the film was put directly into the live action footage.
*** Really, any non-major ''Frozen'' character that the writers included. The painstaking detail they put into recreating Oaken the shopkeeper and the Duke of Weselton resulted in a very cartoonish look that is bizarrely different from the show's usual tone. [[spoiler: Helga's death]] was one of the most dramatic moments of the season, but when you remember that it was instigated by the funny-looking Duke with the DodgyToupee... well, it gets a little bit harder to take it seriously.
** Hook attempting to dig Emma out of the ice with his hook. Yeah, he's desperate, but really now. Even David has to stop him and point out that it's useless.
** While for some it may be seen as NarmCharm, the constant ice jokes in season 4 have reached [[Film/BatmanAndRobin Mr.Freeze]] levels of ridiculousness.
** Rumplestiltskin has managed to get hold of the Sorceror's Hat; when he threatens the Snow Queen in ''Family Business,'' the menacing effect is ruined by the fact that he's holding the rather childish and cartoon like hat.
** The scene of the Snow Queen first discovering her powers, with three not-so-great child actresses saddled with Ed Wood levels of tin-eared dialogue.
** The scene at the end of "Fall" where the Spell of Shattered Sight hits Storybrook was a little over the top, if only because of how long the scene played out for, and especially since the effects of the spell itself ends up largely PlayedForLaughs in the next episode.
*** And during that aforementioned incident, we have [[SarcasmMode an incredibly suspenseful, action packed sequence]] involving Hook attempting to kidnap Henry [[spoiler: while under Rumple's control]]. Unfortunately for our favorite guyliner-toting swashbuckler, Henry is all too prepared for someone to betray him. After a series of childish taunts and comebacks, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5tRMK9VffA Hook is at his wit's end and breaks in with a magic potion]] - only to fall victim to a simplistic trap that makes Kevin McCallister's handiwork look like a Nobel prize-winning exercise in engineering. What ''really'' pushes it into Narm territory is the way Hook flies in the air and lands on his ass in the most unrealistic and un-badass way possible, followed immediately by a shot of his ridiculously over the top grimace while Henry dashes out. And once Will enters the picture - well, you've got one of the Narmiest moments in a series defined by NarmCharm!
** With the reveal that there are multiple copies of the "Once Upon a Time" book, Regina's search for the author bears quite a distracting resemblance to the MythArc of ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls''.
** After Cruella and Maleficent show off some impressive abilities to help Rumple get the Dark Curse, Ursula's contribution is simply to pick it up with one of her tentacles, with no explanation of why or even if this was necessary.
** ''Any'' scene with the Blue Fairy is damaged due to her actress waving her arms at her sides, in the same way that a child may pretend to be a fairy.
** The IfYoureSoEvilEatThisKitten tests Regina is put through by the Queens of Darkness. First is taking a shot of booze, like we've wandered into an after-school special. Then there's a game of chicken where they park in front of a train and see who'll be the first to break and magically save them all, apparently never considering that a true villain would just save themselves.
** In ''Poor Unfortunate Soul'', Rumple tortures August into giving him and the Evil Queens information. How does he do this? By holding August in front of a fire, so that if he lies and his nose grows, his nose will be burnt off.
** In "Best Laid Plans", we see how Cruella and Ursula get to our world [[spoiler:by standing there yelling at Snow and Charming until they accidentally get sucked into the portal along with Maleficent's baby.]]
** Season 4B's talk of heroes and villains as though they were [[BlackAndWhiteMorality fixed, immutable concepts]] can come off as slightly ridiculous, given previous arcs' love of [[TragicVillain tragic]] [[AntiVillain anti-villains]].
** The season 4 finale has Henry being chained up about to be fed to an ogre. Jared Gilmore calls for help as "[[DullSurprise desperately]]" as he can.
** Some villains fail at looking appropriately menacing. For example:
*** Peter Pan's shadow looks like a naked Jawa.
*** Malcolm looks like Russell Crowe with flapper hair.
*** Zelena looks like ComicBook/TheMask.
*** Maleficent's design got a little better in later seasons. In her first appearance, however, her blond curls and excessive frills give her a look that reads, "[[Series/TheMuppetShow Miss Piggy]]".
*** Literature/TheWizardofOz 's supernatural facade is represented as [[{{Music/Queen}} a little silhouetto of a man]].
** Emma's hair once she fully embraces the Darkness; it looks like it's been sprayed white with hair spray.
** In one scene of "The Bear and the Bow," Merida scratches her head and her entire wig moves. Not that it was exactly convincing in the first place, but no one thought that merited a reshoot?
** After Merida kidnaps Belle, not a single one of the heroes seems to give a damn about her disappearance and just go on their merry way fighting Arthur without so much as a single line acknowledging it. It gets even funnier when you remember [[Series/{{Lost}} this isn't even the first time this has happened to Emilie de Raven]].
** In the Season 5 Winter finale there's a shot of Emma hearing Henry screaming for help from outside. Next shot is her running outside and Henry is standing there completely expressionless. MoodWhiplash much?
** The rather on-the-nose dialogue in the second arc of Season 4, with characters outright referring to each other as "the heroes" and "the villains." Likewise talking about a "happy ending" as if it's a physical thing. For example Ursula asks Hook if her happy ending is in his ship.
** Season 5 features some rather excessive flowery dialogue from all the characters. How about Hook's father talking about "while I slumbered"?
** Rebecca Mader is usually good when she's throwing sarcastic barbs at everyone else. However in Season 5 when she has to show genuine emotion and make us feel sorry for Zelena? It results in {{Narm}}. This one, at least, improves over time, with her being on par with the rest of the cast by the end of the season.
** [[ArtifactAlias People using the Curse Names rather than their actual names]] after the first Curse is broken can sometimes make sense (anyone calling Grumpy 'Leroy' can be handwaved by the fact 'Grumpy' is a rather iffy name, while David is both Charming's curse name and his real name, (though his ''real'' real name is Prince James) so it works either way), but anytime anyone uses 'Mary Margaret' instead of Snow White just runs straight into narm. It's made worse by the fact that Charming is the one who uses it the most despite the fact that he knew her FAR longer as Snow White (while others might have the excuse of knowing her for nearly 30 years under the curse, he was in a coma until a few months ago, but knew her for years prior), and the fact that when he ''does'' use 'Snow White', he often shortens it to just 'Snow', while any time anyone uses her Curse name it's ''always'' given in full, despite 'Mary Margaret' being a much bigger mouthful, something even she lampshades when encouraging Emma to call her 'mom'. It doesn't help that 'Mary Margaret' is borderline UnfortunateNames given how wallflowrish it is.
** Hades' blue CGI flaming hair shows that the producers didn't learn their lesson at all from the above-mentioned ''Frozen'' arc; namely how something that looks fine in a cartoon doesn't necessarily translate well to live action. Not helping is the fact that the first time it happens, it appears to have absolutely no in-universe reason, existing entirely to confirm for the audience who he is.
** The reveal that Violet's father is [[spoiler:the title character of ''Literature/AConnecticutYankeeInKingArthursCourt'']]. It starts pretty well with a subtle hint that you're free to either pick up on or not, then the very next line spells out the whole book title to a very DontExplainTheJoke effect. To be fair, many of the audience might not have been aware of the book which might have led to them wondering why this convoluted explanation for the two staying in Storybrooke was used.
** The resolution of the Season 5b finale revolves around Henry giving a speech to get the residents of New York to wish for a portal... by having them throw pennies in a ''wishing well''. It immediately drew comparisons to the climax of ''Film/Elf'' and was called out for being ridiculously unrealistic, even by ''OUAT'' standards. It hovers somewhere between this and NarmCharm.

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