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*** "Going into shock", in this context, isn't a psychological [=BSOD=]-effect: it's a life-threatening drop in blood pressure due to severe loss of fluid. No virus is going to be capable of averting that, because it can't just conjure up extra plasma out of nothing.
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* you're telling me Jim walks through London shouting hello at the top of his lungs and not one Rage Zombie until he gets to the church hears him in a city of (at the time) 7 and a half million? i get it that he is the main character therefor having him besieged by hundreds (if not thousands) of infected at the start of the movie would make it a short movie but still.

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* you're telling me Jim walks through London shouting hello at the top of his lungs and not one Rage Zombie until he gets to the church hears him in a city of (at the time) 7 and a half million? i get it that he is the main character therefor having him besieged by hundreds (if not thousands) of infected at the start of the movie would make it a short movie but still.still.
**It was daytime, in the first movie is said that infected can't stand sunlight (this was overlooked in the sequel though).
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** It's also implied by the dialogue that they've become so depressed by the crisis that they're merely just sitting around waiting to die. The thought of escaping to find something better hadn't crossed their minds. This puts them in direct contrast to Selena - who started out with the same attitude but quickly realised that it was better to find some reason to live and something to live for.


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** And who in their right mind would abandon their car on the motorway? In the city maybe, since there would be somewhere to run to. Unless it runs out of petrol, where are they going to run to if they leave their cars? Alternately the ones that did get abandoned got stolen by other stragglers who didn't have cars of their own.


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** If you take the sequel as canon, it says that all the infected died of starvation after a couple of months.


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** The parallels are meant to be between Jim and the infected. He's essentially been driven mad by his experiences and is operating on pure rage. Also the soldiers had been fatigued for a month. When you're left to laze around doing nothing strenuous for a certain amount of time, you'll lose some of your fitness capabilities. Not to mention they were depressed and scared as well.
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* Am I forgetting something, but how did a bike messenger take out a group of trained soldiers? Suddenly, Jim had ninja skills.

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* Am I forgetting something, but how did a bike messenger take out a group of trained soldiers? Suddenly, Jim had ninja skills.skills.
*you're telling me Jim walks through London shouting hello at the top of his lungs and not one Rage Zombie until he gets to the church hears him in a city of (at the time) 7 and a half million? i get it that he is the main character therefor having him besieged by hundreds (if not thousands) of infected at the start of the movie would make it a short movie but still.
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* Why do the infectees never turn against each other?

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* Why do the infectees never turn against each other?other?
* Am I forgetting something, but how did a bike messenger take out a group of trained soldiers? Suddenly, Jim had ninja skills.
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** Also they knew they were heading towards soldiers. They assumed the soldiers would have weapons and means of protection (which they did). So no reason to fill up car space with it. Also they had a car, which means they could drive away from the majority of threats. If they were going to walk to Manchester however, then the gear would be useful.

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** Also they knew they were heading towards soldiers. They assumed the soldiers would have weapons and means of protection (which they did). So no reason to fill up car space with it. Also they had a car, which means they could drive away from the majority of threats. If they were going to walk to Manchester however, then the gear would be useful.useful.
* Why do the infectees never turn against each other?
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*** And who's to say ''all'' the soldiers would have actually gone through with it? One of them is seen shaking his head looking sorry for Hannah and Selena just before they get changed. And they all do leave the room to allow them to change. Intending to force yourself on someone and actually going through with it aren't mutually exclusive. There's probably mob mentality going on. One of the soldiers (can't remember the name) definitely was planning to but the others were probably just playing along with him (that annoying 'Lad Culture' thing).



** It depends on which route they were using. And can you imagine millions of people trying to drive out of London at once? In the middle of a crisis. The tunnel they got through was blocked with loads of cars that tried to crash through. The reason there aren't more cars on the motorways is probably because very few got out of the cities and the ones that did were the ones that lived.



** Most likely IdiotBall, but a justifiable In-universe explanation could be that his gear, despite the protection, probably wouldn't be of much use in an open area. Keep in mind he wore that stuff and was guarding a small entryway, so it would be easy to block off the zombies. In an open field, all it would take is one zombie, or more likely ten, attacking him from behind while he's busy fighting/blocking another from the front. He also didn't wear it 24/7 since it would probably be uncomfortable for extended periods, and it didn't seem like their car had much more room for anything else, so instead of that extra weight, they would have likely of chosen to carry more food/water.

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** Most likely IdiotBall, but a justifiable In-universe explanation could be that his gear, despite the protection, probably wouldn't be of much use in an open area. Keep in mind he wore that stuff and was guarding a small entryway, so it would be easy to block off the zombies. In an open field, all it would take is one zombie, or more likely ten, attacking him from behind while he's busy fighting/blocking another from the front. He also didn't wear it 24/7 since it would probably be uncomfortable for extended periods, and it didn't seem like their car had much more room for anything else, so instead of that extra weight, they would have likely of chosen to carry more food/water.food/water.
** He could have packed it. But once they were out of London they'd be in the countryside - so less infected to ward off. Three or four people could easily overpower a handful of infected in a wide open area, as opposed to a whole crowd in an apartment staircase. So there mightn't be much need for it.
** Also they knew they were heading towards soldiers. They assumed the soldiers would have weapons and means of protection (which they did). So no reason to fill up car space with it. Also they had a car, which means they could drive away from the majority of threats. If they were going to walk to Manchester however, then the gear would be useful.

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* So I am genuinely curious about this, but why didn't Frank bring his riot gear with him? That seems like an incredibly piece of equipment against the infected, why not bring it?

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* So I am genuinely curious about this, but why didn't Frank bring his riot gear with him? That seems like an incredibly useful piece of equipment against the infected, why not bring it?it?
** Most likely IdiotBall, but a justifiable In-universe explanation could be that his gear, despite the protection, probably wouldn't be of much use in an open area. Keep in mind he wore that stuff and was guarding a small entryway, so it would be easy to block off the zombies. In an open field, all it would take is one zombie, or more likely ten, attacking him from behind while he's busy fighting/blocking another from the front. He also didn't wear it 24/7 since it would probably be uncomfortable for extended periods, and it didn't seem like their car had much more room for anything else, so instead of that extra weight, they would have likely of chosen to carry more food/water.

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*** Exactly. The soldiers aren't overseas fighting another country until the wars over and they can come home; they're in the middle of an apocalyptic pandemic, they've probably seen their buddies killed or infected along with their family and any girlfriends or wives they might of had and in their mind the world as they've known it is over. And the officer probably believes the same thing. His family and friends are dead and the only people he's got left are his soldiers. We heard that he had found one of his soldiers with a gun in his mouth because the world was "futureless" so in a desparate attempt to keep his men together and keep morale up, he "promised them women." He was probably already cynical (his people killing people speech at dinner) before the infection, so seeing people he knew or loved turned into diseased beasts probably traumatised him to point of insanity. Plus, except for the {{Only Sane Man}}, most of the soldiers were young kids who probably had their whole lives ahead of them before, and are now (in their mind) "futureless". Certain people do crazy things after passing their {{Despair Event Horizon}}.

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*** Exactly. The soldiers aren't overseas fighting another country until the wars over and they can come home; they're in the middle of an apocalyptic pandemic, they've probably seen their buddies killed or infected along with their family and any girlfriends or wives they might of had and in their mind the world as they've known it is over. And the officer probably believes the same thing. His family and friends are dead and the only people he's got left are his soldiers. We heard that he had found one of his soldiers with a gun in his mouth because the world was "futureless" so in a desparate attempt to keep his men together and keep morale up, he "promised them women." He was probably already cynical (his people killing people speech at dinner) before the infection, so seeing people he knew or loved turned into diseased beasts probably traumatised him to point of insanity. Plus, except for the {{Only Sane Man}}, most of the soldiers were young kids who probably had their whole lives ahead of them before, and are now (in their mind) "futureless". Certain people do crazy things after passing their {{Despair Event Horizon}}. Horizon}}.
*** Not to mention that military officers being complicit in rape isn't unheard of in ''this'' reality.
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** In case of the "candle attack", he wasn't sprayed with the blood that much. Actually all he got was bloodied hands and sprayed clothes and all the blood came after the infected got killed, so no HighPressureBlood. In case of the climax, all the blood Jim is covered came from healthy soldiers whom he killed.

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** In case of the "candle attack", he wasn't sprayed with the blood that much. Actually all he got was bloodied hands and sprayed clothes and all the blood came after the infected got killed, so no HighPressureBlood. In case of the climax, all the blood Jim is covered came from healthy soldiers whom he killed.killed.
*So I am genuinely curious about this, but why didn't Frank bring his riot gear with him? That seems like an incredibly piece of equipment against the infected, why not bring it?
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*** In less than four weeks after first infection Britain's population went almost extinct. There is no "too fast" here. Those men are one hundred percent sure they are last human beings in big radius, surrounded by hundreds of dangerous carriers of easy-transmitting disease and it's really no wonder they are convince they are alone. Think about it. They are not some random RagTagBunchOfMisfits. They are soldiers on duty. They didn't picked up any radio broadcasts for past two weeks. No fellow soldiers out there. No HQ. No civilian activity. No nothing. If military got over-run, then who could survive the carnage they seen by their own eyes? And they are in their home ground, so that means [[YouCantGoHomeAgain they can't just pack and go back home]].

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*** In less than four weeks after first infection Britain's population went almost extinct. There is no "too fast" here. Those men are one hundred percent sure they are last human beings in big radius, surrounded by hundreds of dangerous carriers of easy-transmitting disease and it's really no wonder they are convince convinced they are alone. Think about it. They are not some random RagTagBunchOfMisfits. They are soldiers on duty. They didn't picked up any radio broadcasts for past two weeks. No fellow soldiers out there. No HQ. No civilian activity. No nothing. If military got over-run, then who could survive the carnage they seen by their own eyes? And they are in their home ground, so that means [[YouCantGoHomeAgain they can't just pack and go back home]].
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*** In less than four weeks after first infection Britain's population went almost extinct. There is no "too fast" here. Those men are one hundred percent sure they are last human beings in big radius, surrounded by hundreds of dangerous carriers of easy-transmitting disease and it's really no wonder they are convince they are alone. Think about it. They are not some random RagTagBunchOfMisfits. They are soldiers on duty. They didn't picked up any radio broadcasts for past two weeks. No fellow soldiers out there. No HQ. No civilian activity. No nothing. If military got over-run, then who could survive the carnage they seen by their own eyes? And they are in their home ground, so that means [[YouCantGoHomeAgain they can't just pack and go back home]].



** Not to mention they've created themselves more or less safe haven in the mansion. They got shelter, easy to defend area, supplies...



** And why exactly the roads should be blocked in the first place?



** It's partly hand-waved InUniverse - West restrained Mailer just to check out how long it will take him to die out of all the factors listed above. We simply never got the chance to check out the results, because all scenes in the mansion happens in about 30 hours. So Mailer got infected three days before the climax, where we last saw him.



** Which scene? The one where the infected burst into the house after he lights the candle, or the part at the end?

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** Which scene? The one where the infected burst into the house after he lights the candle, or the part at the end?end?
** In case of the "candle attack", he wasn't sprayed with the blood that much. Actually all he got was bloodied hands and sprayed clothes and all the blood came after the infected got killed, so no HighPressureBlood. In case of the climax, all the blood Jim is covered came from healthy soldiers whom he killed.
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** There were deleted scenes with piled up cars block motorways, but the CGI looked fake so the scene was cut.

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** There were deleted scenes with piled up cars block blocking motorways, but the CGI looked fake so the scene was cut.
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** Which scene? The one where the infected burst into the house after the lights the candle, or the part at the end?

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** Which scene? The one where the infected burst into the house after the he lights the candle, or the part at the end?
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* Realistically, there's no way Jim could get that much blood on him and not have a drop of it get into his eyes or mouth. Even if he did somehow avoid ingestion or eye contact, there's no way he could keep from inhaling a few droplets--presumably, if the Rage virus can spread through oral membranes, it can spread through nasal membranes too.

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* Realistically, there's no way Jim could get that much blood on him and not have a drop of it get into his eyes or mouth. Even if he did somehow avoid ingestion or eye contact, there's no way he could keep from inhaling a few droplets--presumably, if the Rage virus can spread through oral membranes, it can spread through nasal membranes too.too.
** Which scene? The one where the infected burst into the house after the lights the candle, or the part at the end?
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** Presumably, some do. We see quite a few human corpses littered throughout Britain during the travel montage, namely during Jim, Selena, Hannah, and Frank's exit from London. It could be that the virus allows some Infected to last longer than others because of the effect it has upon their minds. It takes a human body quite a while, after all, to die from lack of hydration and malnutrition. In the case of hydration, the reason why humans generally die within a few days is because their body goes into shock from dehydration, which the virus could, presumably, keep from happening. In which case, it would probably take a week or two for an Infected human to fully give out from dehydration.

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** Presumably, some do. We see quite a few human corpses littered throughout Britain during the travel montage, namely during Jim, Selena, Hannah, and Frank's exit from London. It could be that the virus allows some Infected to last longer than others because of the effect it has upon their minds. It takes a human body quite a while, after all, to die from lack of hydration and malnutrition. In the case of hydration, the reason why humans generally die within a few days is because their body goes into shock from dehydration, which the virus could, presumably, keep from happening. In which case, it would probably take a week or two for an Infected human to fully give out from dehydration.dehydration.
* Realistically, there's no way Jim could get that much blood on him and not have a drop of it get into his eyes or mouth. Even if he did somehow avoid ingestion or eye contact, there's no way he could keep from inhaling a few droplets--presumably, if the Rage virus can spread through oral membranes, it can spread through nasal membranes too.
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** Actually, for all they dress Hannah up too, none of the soldiers actually seem ''interested'' in her. Not that that makes them any less [[CompleteMonster terrible]], but that observation can make the whole thing (slightly) less uncomfortable to watch.

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** Actually, for all they dress Hannah up too, none of the soldiers actually seem ''interested'' in her. Not that that makes them any less [[CompleteMonster terrible]], terrible, but that observation can make the whole thing (slightly) less uncomfortable to watch.
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* Considering the infected don't eat -likely- don't sleep, don't hydrate, don't exercise proper hygiene, are constantly vomiting large quantities of their own blood, and run full speed -with full exertion as a result- after any potential target they see, shouldn't they all fall over dead within three to five days after initially being infected?

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* Considering the infected don't eat -likely- don't sleep, don't hydrate, don't exercise proper hygiene, are constantly vomiting large quantities of their own blood, and run full speed -with full exertion as a result- after any potential target they see, shouldn't they all fall over dead within three to five days after initially being infected?infected?
** Presumably, some do. We see quite a few human corpses littered throughout Britain during the travel montage, namely during Jim, Selena, Hannah, and Frank's exit from London. It could be that the virus allows some Infected to last longer than others because of the effect it has upon their minds. It takes a human body quite a while, after all, to die from lack of hydration and malnutrition. In the case of hydration, the reason why humans generally die within a few days is because their body goes into shock from dehydration, which the virus could, presumably, keep from happening. In which case, it would probably take a week or two for an Infected human to fully give out from dehydration.
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* Considering the infected don't eat -likely- don't sleep, don't hydrate, don't exercise proper hygiene, are constantly vomiting large quantities of their own blood, and run full speed -with full exertion as a result- after any potential target they see, shouldn't they all fall over dead within three to five days after initially being infected?
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** There were deleted scenes with piled up cars block motorways, but the CGI looked fake so the scene was cut.
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* Where are all the cars in this film? The motorways are completely deserted, when surely they would be chocked full of cars from when people were trying to evacuate the cities.

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* Where are all the cars in this film? The motorways are completely deserted, when surely they would be chocked full of cars from when people were trying to evacuate the cities.
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** They don't know that they've been quarantined, in their mind the world has ended, they're still alive, and England is their home. Why leave one location thats familiar for an unknown location if you expect the same chaos there too?

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** They don't know that they've been quarantined, in their mind the world has ended, they're still alive, and England is their home. Why leave one location thats familiar for an unknown location if you expect the same chaos there too?too?
* Where are all the cars in this film? The motorways are completely deserted, when surely they would be chocked full of cars from when people were trying to evacuate the cities.
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*** Exactly. The soldiers aren't overseas fighting another country until the wars over and they can come home; they're in the middle of an apocalyptic pandemic, they've probably seen their buddies killed or infected along with their family and any girlfriends or wives they might of had and in their mind the world as they've known it is over. And the officer probably believes the same thing. His family and friends are dead and the only people he's got left are his soldiers. We heard that he had found one of his soldiers with a gun in his mouth because the world was "futureless" so in a desparate attempt to keep his men together and keep morale up, he "promised them women." He was probably already cynical (his people killing people speech at dinner) before the infection, so seeing people he knew or loved turned into diseased beasts probably traumatised him to point of insanity. Plus, except for the Only Sane Man, most of the soldiers were young kids who probably had their whole lives ahead of them before, and are now (in their mind) "futureless".

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*** Exactly. The soldiers aren't overseas fighting another country until the wars over and they can come home; they're in the middle of an apocalyptic pandemic, they've probably seen their buddies killed or infected along with their family and any girlfriends or wives they might of had and in their mind the world as they've known it is over. And the officer probably believes the same thing. His family and friends are dead and the only people he's got left are his soldiers. We heard that he had found one of his soldiers with a gun in his mouth because the world was "futureless" so in a desparate attempt to keep his men together and keep morale up, he "promised them women." He was probably already cynical (his people killing people speech at dinner) before the infection, so seeing people he knew or loved turned into diseased beasts probably traumatised him to point of insanity. Plus, except for the Only {{Only Sane Man, Man}}, most of the soldiers were young kids who probably had their whole lives ahead of them before, and are now (in their mind) "futureless"."futureless". Certain people do crazy things after passing their {{Despair Event Horizon}}.



** They don't know that they've been quarantined, in their mind the world has ended, they're still alive, and England is their home. Why leave one location for a different location if you expect the same chaos there too?

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** They don't know that they've been quarantined, in their mind the world has ended, they're still alive, and England is their home. Why leave one location thats familiar for a different an unknown location if you expect the same chaos there too?

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* Have the soldiers not considered simply vacating to another country? Though there were (spurious) rumours about the plague being in Paris and New York, it seems improbable that they wouldn't at least try to get off the Island, rather than resorting to raping the few survivors.

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*** Exactly. The soldiers aren't overseas fighting another country until the wars over and they can come home; they're in the middle of an apocalyptic pandemic, they've probably seen their buddies killed or infected along with their family and any girlfriends or wives they might of had and in their mind the world as they've known it is over. And the officer probably believes the same thing. His family and friends are dead and the only people he's got left are his soldiers. We heard that he had found one of his soldiers with a gun in his mouth because the world was "futureless" so in a desparate attempt to keep his men together and keep morale up, he "promised them women." He was probably already cynical (his people killing people speech at dinner) before the infection, so seeing people he knew or loved turned into diseased beasts probably traumatised him to point of insanity. Plus, except for the Only Sane Man, most of the soldiers were young kids who probably had their whole lives ahead of them before, and are now (in their mind) "futureless".
* Have the soldiers not considered simply vacating to another country? Though there were (spurious) rumours about the plague being in Paris and New York, it seems improbable that they wouldn't at least try to get off the Island, rather than resorting to raping the few survivors.survivors.
** They don't know that they've been quarantined, in their mind the world has ended, they're still alive, and England is their home. Why leave one location for a different location if you expect the same chaos there too?
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* Have the soldiers not considered simply vacating to another country? Though there were (spurious) rumours about the plague being in Paris and New York, it seems improbable that they souldn't have at least tried to get off the Island, rather than resorting to raping the few survivors.

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* Have the soldiers not considered simply vacating to another country? Though there were (spurious) rumours about the plague being in Paris and New York, it seems improbable that they souldn't have wouldn't at least tried try to get off the Island, rather than resorting to raping the few survivors.
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*** Of course, those situations are a little different from the end of the world.

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*** Of course, those situations are a little different from the end of the world.world.
* Have the soldiers not considered simply vacating to another country? Though there were (spurious) rumours about the plague being in Paris and New York, it seems improbable that they souldn't have at least tried to get off the Island, rather than resorting to raping the few survivors.
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** That's still an extremely short time for soldiers to be so overcome with despair that they'll resort to rape. It's not uncommon for soldiers to be separated from their wives/loved ones for a year or more in RealLife, and most of them can avoid cheating on their spouse, much less rape. There are obviously exceptions, but it is grounds for trial by court-martial, dishonorable discharge, and imprisonment. For an ''officer'' to condone it a mere month after the plague first hits is a bit much.

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** That's still an extremely short time for soldiers to be so overcome with despair that they'll resort to rape. It's not uncommon for soldiers to be separated from their wives/loved ones for a year or more in RealLife, and most of them can avoid cheating on their spouse, much less rape. There are obviously exceptions, but it is grounds for trial by court-martial, dishonorable discharge, and imprisonment. For an ''officer'' to condone it a mere month after the plague first hits is a bit much.much.
*** Of course, those situations are a little different from the end of the world.
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** That's still an extremely short time for soldiers to be so overcome with despair that they'll resort to rape. It's not uncommon for soldiers to be separated from their wives/loved ones for a year or more these days, and most of them can avoid cheating on their spouse, much less rape. There are obviously exceptions, but it is grounds for trial by court-martial, dishonorable discharge, and imprisonment. For an ''officer'' to condone it a mere month after the plague first hits is a bit much.

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** That's still an extremely short time for soldiers to be so overcome with despair that they'll resort to rape. It's not uncommon for soldiers to be separated from their wives/loved ones for a year or more these days, in RealLife, and most of them can avoid cheating on their spouse, much less rape. There are obviously exceptions, but it is grounds for trial by court-martial, dishonorable discharge, and imprisonment. For an ''officer'' to condone it a mere month after the plague first hits is a bit much.
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** They aren't blinded by lust. They've lost hope of survival because they have no future to look forward to. Women represent that hope that things could get better for them, and they aren't going to let things like consent or age get in the way of that hope.

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** They aren't blinded by lust. They've lost hope of survival because they have no future to look forward to. Women represent that hope that things could get better for them, and they aren't going to let things like consent or age get in the way of that hope.hope.
** That's still an extremely short time for soldiers to be so overcome with despair that they'll resort to rape. It's not uncommon for soldiers to be separated from their wives/loved ones for a year or more these days, and most of them can avoid cheating on their spouse, much less rape. There are obviously exceptions, but it is grounds for trial by court-martial, dishonorable discharge, and imprisonment. For an ''officer'' to condone it a mere month after the plague first hits is a bit much.
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** Actually, for all they dress Hannah up too, none of the soldiers actually seem ''interested'' in her. Not that that makes them any less [[CompleteMonster terrible]], but that observation can make the whole thing (slightly) less uncomfortable to watch.

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** Actually, for all they dress Hannah up too, none of the soldiers actually seem ''interested'' in her. Not that that makes them any less [[CompleteMonster terrible]], but that observation can make the whole thing (slightly) less uncomfortable to watch.watch.
** They aren't blinded by lust. They've lost hope of survival because they have no future to look forward to. Women represent that hope that things could get better for them, and they aren't going to let things like consent or age get in the way of that hope.

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