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** The assumption that the rules for the CotW taking off their helmets are similar to other religiously mandated headwear seem to be just that - assumptions. That said, they are not unreasonable. The Mandalorians greatly pride strong family structures, both through the gai bal manda and through their trueborn children - therefore, it makes sense that you would be allowed to remove your armor in the presence of your spouse.

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** The assumption that the rules for the CotW [=CotW=] taking off their helmets are similar to other religiously mandated headwear seem to be just that - assumptions. That said, they are not unreasonable. The Mandalorians greatly pride strong family structures, both through the gai bal manda and through their trueborn children - therefore, it makes sense that you would be allowed to remove your armor in the presence of your spouse.
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** Din says in [=S2 E4: The Siege=] that they thought Gideon was dead. It's clear that in-universe they considered a TIE crashing at that speed should have been fatal, so there wouldn't have been any need to search the site. Presumably Gideon's personal TIE transport was more durable and better able to protect its pilot.
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** Adding to the above, in ''The Book of Boba Fett'' Din is shown struggling with using the Darksaber, saying "It gets heavier with each swing." Meanwhile Moff Gideon has little trouble waving it around with just one hand. Apparently there is some kind of mental component to wielding lightsabers (or just the Darksaber) properly.

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** Adding to the above, in ''The Book of Boba Fett'' Din is shown struggling with using the Darksaber, saying "It gets heavier with each swing." Meanwhile Moff Gideon has little trouble waving it around with just one hand. Apparently It would seem there is some kind of mental component to wielding lightsabers (or just the Darksaber) properly.
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** Adding to the above, in ''The Book of Boba Fett'' Din is shown struggling with using the Darksaber, saying "It gets heavier with each swing." Apparently there is some kind of mental component to wielding lightsabers (or just the Darksaber) properly.

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** Adding to the above, in ''The Book of Boba Fett'' Din is shown struggling with using the Darksaber, saying "It gets heavier with each swing." Meanwhile Moff Gideon has little trouble waving it around with just one hand. Apparently there is some kind of mental component to wielding lightsabers (or just the Darksaber) properly.
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** Adding to the above, in ''The Book of Boba Fett'' Din is shown struggling with using the Darksaber, saying "It gets heavier with each swing." Apparently there is some kind of mental component to wielding lightsabers (or just the Darksaber) properly.
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* I know fans have been calling him Baby Yoda but I still wonder if there will be a set in stone name for the little guy.
** I seem to remember Creator/TaikaWaititi confirming he has a name.
** We have one now: Grogu.
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* Finally, there are a lot of leadership and training principles to training. The US army and Marine Corps have dedicated specialist that train troops. They have to psychologically break people to give them a ''chance'' to resist panic in a combat situation (many of the best trained fighters still tend to panic their first fight and only survive because they break and fall back on training). She's not a leader and she probably has no training in, well, training people. Many drill sergeants and drill instructors are fired because they break under the pressure of training to train recruits or get power trips and go too far in harassing their trainees. Even if she was all of those things, a former military drill instructor with leadership skills, I doubt she's willing to subject her own village to that. A recruit is almost ''supposed'' to hate their trainer, but respect them and fall them.
* Is it that she knew how to ''fight'', or just had experience plinking around with dad's blaster? Some people have better hand-eye coordination and are naturally good shots (consider the case of Sgt Alvin York, a crack marksman whose main training was that he was a hunter prior to WW1), while others are never going to be very good shots no matter how much training they go through. Sometimes someone just picks up a new weapon and it feels perfectly natural to them, and in those cases they might be a very good shot indeed right out of the box.
* Also, there's knowing how to FIGHT, and knowing how to fight as a unit. She may be a crack shot with a blaster, but not be well versed in operating as a cohesive unit, with tactics, how to fight as a team with others. Mando, on the other hand, is trained to work with others, fight as a unit, and operate in tandem with support.

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* ** Finally, there are a lot of leadership and training principles to training. The US army and Marine Corps have dedicated specialist that train troops. They have to psychologically break people to give them a ''chance'' to resist panic in a combat situation (many of the best trained fighters still tend to panic their first fight and only survive because they break and fall back on training). She's not a leader and she probably has no training in, well, training people. Many drill sergeants and drill instructors are fired because they break under the pressure of training to train recruits or get power trips and go too far in harassing their trainees. Even if she was all of those things, a former military drill instructor with leadership skills, I doubt she's willing to subject her own village to that. A recruit is almost ''supposed'' to hate their trainer, but respect them and fall them.
* ** Is it that she knew how to ''fight'', or just had experience plinking around with dad's blaster? Some people have better hand-eye coordination and are naturally good shots (consider the case of Sgt Alvin York, a crack marksman whose main training was that he was a hunter prior to WW1), while others are never going to be very good shots no matter how much training they go through. Sometimes someone just picks up a new weapon and it feels perfectly natural to them, and in those cases they might be a very good shot indeed right out of the box.
* ** Also, there's knowing how to FIGHT, and knowing how to fight as a unit. She may be a crack shot with a blaster, but not be well versed in operating as a cohesive unit, with tactics, how to fight as a team with others. Mando, on the other hand, is trained to work with others, fight as a unit, and operate in tandem with support.support.
** It's also possible that while she knows how to shoot, she wasn't trained as a soldier. She may have simply been a taught as a hunter. Knowledge of hunting or shooting is a far cry from being able to educate and organize a town to fend off raiders with a mechanized walker in support. It's also important to remember that the town was so poor that none of them seemed to own a blaster or any other weapons for self defense. Din could tell just by glancing at the bag of credits they offered that the village couldn't afford to hire a single mercenary. You can't train someone to fight if they can't even afford access to basic weaponry.
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** Force powers seem to be like muscles. If you stop training a muscle, it gets weaker over time.
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*** Also, Din's whole reason for going to the planet was to lay relatively low. Zipping around with his ship blasting things on the ground is the opposite of laying low.
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** They didn't see it until it activated. They arrived at the camp and went into the tent first to plant the bomb, and before they could do anything else they were discovered. It's hard to sabotage something when you don't get a chance to find it.
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** Droids don't need to rest and can run at speed without stopping. IG-11 could significantly cut down the time needed to travel that way.
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** The Darksaber cannot be wielded by someone unworthy. It will bring a curse if someone who wields it without earning it. If Bo-Katan just took it without winning it in combat, the Darksaber would know and Mandalore would be cursed.
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** Season 3 also shows that they don't even manufacture the logic components for IG-11 models anymore, and presumably that applies for other IG-series as well. Hard to replace all of your bounty hunters with assassin droids when no one makes them anymore.
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** Gideon killing the Client's men likely wasn't just to prove a point. The Client explicitly went against Gideon's orders when he told Pershing to kill Grogu in the conversation that was overhead in Chapter 3. Those Stormtroopers were likely loyal to the Client and therefore would need to be disposed of regardless.
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** Keep in mind that not all attention is negative. Beskar is flashy, but it is also strong. Someone who might have taken a swing at Din, like the goons in the first chapter, would be less likely to do so in the face of a ''full'' suit of blaster-resistant beskar.
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*** It is explicitly said that the last four digits of the chain code are the target's age, and the Client refused to give out the rest of it. That implies it likely is genetic and the fob is coded toward the target's biology.
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** Kuiil outright says that bounty hunters and mercenaries have been going after Grogu for so long that the valley is practically a warzone. So it's fair to assume that while everyone got a tracking fob, and a lot of them still hadn't decided to go after the bounty, and a lot more had already taken a swing at it either died or were driven off in the process.

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** Kuiil outright says that bounty hunters and mercenaries have been going after Grogu for so long that the valley is practically a warzone. So it's fair to assume that while everyone got a tracking fob, and a lot of them still hadn't decided to go after the bounty, and a lot more had already taken a swing at it either died or were driven off in the process.process. It wouldn't be surprising if quite a few of the bounty hunters in the guild house had gotten as far as Din did and then chickened out when they saw a couple of platoons' worth of heavily-armed mercs protecting the Child. It's notable that the group of Trandoshans who ambushed Din waited until after he had killed all the mercs and was alone.
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** Kuiil outright says that bounty hunters and mercenaries have been going after Grogu for so long that the valley is practically a warzone. So it's fair to assume that while everyone got a tracking fob, and a lot of them still hadn't decided to go after the bounty, and a lot more had already taken a swing at it either died or were driven off in the process.
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Nixing this entry, it is clearly answered in the show.


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* There seemed to be a lot of {{Retcon}}s of previously established Mandalorian culture: The quasi-religious tone , the "no removal of helmet", and the SurvivalMantra "This is the Way" didn't exist at all until now.
** Like said above, it might not be a {{Retcon}} so much as just various intra-cultural beliefs and differences.
** Still, no Mandalorian from the planet Mandalore behaved like they did. Granted, we never met a Mandalorian religious figure or a canonical Post-Endor Mandalorian so perhaps the Purge changes them and "the Way" is how they cope and survive.
** The Armorer explicitly mentions that there have been changes to keep them safe. The example given was only allowing one person topside at a time, but the "no removal of helmet" could have been another one.
** That seems to be the implication: Keeping the helmets on is the way to protect their identity, so they or their loved ones can't be targeted.
** Note also that Creator/DaveFiloni, who created/directed/produced ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' and ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'' (which contain most of the new canon's information on Mandalorians) is an executive producer of this show. So whatever the reason for the changes, there definitely is one, and it's not a case of ArmedWithCanon or a new creator simply forgetting what an old creator did.
** Helmet thing could be an oath or a {{Geas}} accepted by the Mandalorians until they avenge themselves or restore their honor or something like that. Perhaps this is building up to the DramaticUnmask at some point later.
** In episode 4, Mando mentioned that he never removed his helmet since the Clone War - before Rebels and the Purge.
** There's hints here and there that the group of particular Mandalorians that raised Din were a bit more fanatical then your average group. Given how they act, it's fair to call them a cult, perhaps some ultra-splinter group of Death Watch who were most devoted to Mandalorian ideals and old culture then anything else. It would do a lot for explaining the differences between Mandalorians seen in time periods set before this and the way they act now.
*** Confirmed as of "The Heiress".
*** This is psychologically plausible. They are essentially survivors of a genocide which came after major internal strife over the nature of their culture. Clinging to an ancient, strict code could be their attempt to protect and preserve their way of life. That can even be seen in their emphasis on armor over weapons. Though Din says weapons are part of his religion, it’s a generalized need for combat capability and he’s willing to lay them aside for courtesy’s sake. Their armor is part of their personal and cultural identity, and only protection of their foundlings is held as a higher ideal. Armor, hidden bases, intense group responses to threats, fanatical adherence to tradition, these all make sense as characteristics of a clan threatened with extinction.
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** After the Covert reveals itself in Chapter 3, they are wiped out by Gideon's Imperial troops some time later, which shows exactly why they were kept hidden.
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** Note that in the overheard conversation between the Client and Pershing in Chapter 3, the Client explicitly wants Grogu dead while Pershing says that Gideon wants him alive. The Client is almost certainly working against Gideon, despite ostensibly working for him. Likely he's working for another Imperial Moff, and that's why Gideon kills him later on at the end of the first season.

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**Any religion with excommunication has very clear tenets for being let back into the faith after expulsion. Mandalorians have been scattered to diaspora and their worlds have been nuked, so maybe the Armorer understands that the rules need to be altered. Maybe in the days of Mandalore's glory, you would have to hand over your armor, because all you'd have to do was take a trip down to the mines and bathe. Now you are traveling to a death world and spelunking through irradiated ruins with all sorts of monsters camped out within - you'll need all your gear to make such a trip even feasible.



** The assumption that the rules for the CotW taking off their helmets are similar to other religiously mandated headwear seem to be just that - assumptions, but not unreasonable ones. The Mandalorians greatly pride family structure, both through gai bal manda foundlings and through their trueborn children - it therefore makes sense that you would be allowed to remove your armor in the presence of your spouse. We know that you are allowed to remove your helmet for things like grooming and eating - this would be one more exception to the rule. Grogu is Din's foundling, so it stands to reason that the thing which got him in trouble was not removing his helmet in front of Grogu, but doing so in front of Fennec, Bo-Katan, Koska, and Cara Dune. He took it partly off in S2E4 in front of him without much issue.

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** The assumption that the rules for the CotW taking off their helmets are similar to other religiously mandated headwear seem to be just that - assumptions, but assumptions. That said, they are not unreasonable ones. unreasonable. The Mandalorians greatly pride strong family structure, structures, both through the gai bal manda foundlings and through their trueborn children - therefore, it therefore makes sense that you would be allowed to remove your armor in the presence of your spouse. spouse.
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We know that you are allowed to remove your helmet for things like grooming and eating - this would be one more exception to the rule. Grogu is Din's foundling, so it stands to reason foundling; It's likely that the thing which got him in trouble was not removing his helmet in front of Grogu, but rather doing so in front of Cara Dune, Fennec, Bo-Katan, Koska, and Cara Dune. Luke Skywalker. He took it partly off in S2E4 in front of him Grogu "The Siege" without much issue.
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** The assumption that the rules for the CotW taking off their helmets are similar to other religiously mandated headwear seem to be just that - assumptions, but not unreasonable ones. The Mandalorians greatly pride family structure, both through gai bal manda foundlings and through their trueborn children - it therefore makes sense that you would be allowed to remove your armor in the presence of your spouse. We know that you are allowed to remove your helmet for things like grooming and eating - this would be one more exception to the rule. Grogu is Din's foundling, so it stands to reason that the thing which got him in trouble was not removing his helmet in front of Grogu, but doing so in front of Fennec, Bo-Katan, Koska, and Cara Dune. He took it partly off in S2E4 in front of him without much issue.
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** One possibility is that the Armorer went easy on Din for two reasons. One, he's not technically under her jurisdiction anymore (he's technically the patriarch of Clan Mudhorn). Two, she knows Din, knows that there's a VERY good reason he took off his helmet, and isn't actually banishing him, but rather pushing him out of the nest because she believes he can be more.
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I've recently seen two TV Tropes pages that respectively said:
* "they cannot remove their helmet or armor in the presence of anyone except their immediate family"
* "It's also acceptable if the only others around are one's clan."

Is that true? I'm almost certain no such thing has been said on the show. It seems to run counter to Din's "no living thing" statement.

On the pages where these quotes came from, I edited to remove the family caveat because I assumed it was incorrect. But I've realized maybe ''I'' was wrong, so I'd like to check. Is this family exception mentioned in another piece of Mandalorian media? (If so, which sect does it apply to?) Or is it merely a popular headcanon -- people extrapolating and assuming that niqabi rules apply to Mandalorians?
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[[folder: Family helmet exceptions?]]
I've recently seen two pages that respectively said:
* "they cannot remove their helmet or armor in the presence of anyone except their immediate family"
* "It's also acceptable if the only others around are one's clan."

Is that true? I'm almost certain no such thing has been said on the show. It seems to run counter to Din's "no living thing" statement.

On the pages where these quotes came from, I edited it and removed the family caveat because I assumed it was incorrect. But I've realized maybe ''I'' was wrong, so I'd like to check. Is this family exception mentioned in another piece of Mandalorian media? (If so, which sect does it apply to?) Or is it merely a popular headcanon -- people extrapolating and assuming that niqabi rules apply to Mandalorians?
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On the pages where these quotes came from, I edited it and removed the family caveat because I assumed it was incorrect. But I've realized maybe ''I'' was wrong, so I'd like to check. Is this family exception mentioned in another piece of Mandalorian media, perhaps? (If so, which sect does it apply to?) Or is it merely a popular headcanon -- people extrapolating and assuming that niqabi rules apply to Mandalorians?

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On the pages where these quotes came from, I edited it and removed the family caveat because I assumed it was incorrect. But I've realized maybe ''I'' was wrong, so I'd like to check. Is this family exception mentioned in another piece of Mandalorian media, perhaps? media? (If so, which sect does it apply to?) Or is it merely a popular headcanon -- people extrapolating and assuming that niqabi rules apply to Mandalorians?

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** There is also a key moral distinction between killing enemy soldiers and [[WeHaveReserves killing your own troops]]. Mayfeld is, by this point, a [[DefectorFromDecadence turncoat]], which brings it's own ethical baggage, but Hess was a loyal Imperial officer when he ordered the wholesale killing of his own troops. In comparison, Mayfeld, acting as an agent of the New Republic, was in a much less morally questionable situation when he blew up the base, especially knowing what Hess had told him above. Under most circumstances, enemy soldiers would be considered perfectly legal targets, even if not actively taking hostile action, provided they weren't surrendering, taking to lifeboats, or similar specific protected statuses. If anything he did violated the Laws of Armed Conflict, it was doing all of that while wearing [[FalseFlagOperation an Imperial uniform,]] which is hardly unheard of among the heroes of this franchise.

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** There is also a key moral distinction between killing enemy soldiers and [[WeHaveReserves killing your own troops]].troops]], to say nothing of targeting civilian populations at the same time. Mayfeld is, by this point, a [[DefectorFromDecadence turncoat]], which brings it's own ethical baggage, but Hess was a loyal Imperial officer when he ordered the wholesale killing of his own troops. In comparison, Mayfeld, acting as an agent of the New Republic, was in a much less morally questionable situation when he blew up the base, especially knowing what Hess had told him above. Under most circumstances, enemy soldiers would be considered perfectly legal targets, even if not actively taking hostile action, provided they weren't surrendering, taking to lifeboats, or similar specific protected statuses. If anything he did violated the Laws of Armed Conflict, it was doing all of that while wearing [[FalseFlagOperation an Imperial uniform,]] which is hardly unheard of among the heroes of this franchise.

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* In chapter 15, Mayfeld snaps and guns down an officer due to a grudge from when said officer needlessly sacrificed imperial lives. Yet less than a few minutes later, Mayfeld himself shoots a container of volatile material, destroying the whole facility and everyone in it, ''needlessly sacrificing imperial lives.'' He was already in the clear and further violence was unnecessary, but he essentially made the same decision as the officer (wiping out a settlement for the sake of convenience) with no concern for the collateral damage. Is this a deliberate case of irony? Is Mayfeld simply indifferent towards his own hypocrisy? Or was there mitigating factors that I missed?

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* In chapter 15, Mayfeld snaps and guns down an officer Valin Hess due to a grudge from when said officer needlessly sacrificed imperial lives. Yet less than a few minutes later, Mayfeld himself shoots a container of volatile material, destroying the whole facility and everyone in it, ''needlessly sacrificing imperial lives.'' He was already in the clear and further violence was unnecessary, but he essentially made the same decision as the officer (wiping out a settlement for the sake of convenience) with no concern for the collateral damage. Is this a deliberate case of irony? Is Mayfeld simply indifferent towards his own hypocrisy? Or was there mitigating factors that I missed?



** Also if you read between the lines it seems like the operation Mayfeld served on caused him to start questioning what the Empire was doing. He could accept it that they were being more aggressive because hey the galaxy just came out of a massive civil war that devastated hundreds of words and uncountable communities. The Empire was rough but at least they put an end to droid armies roaming the rim committing small scale genocide and terror bombings on civilian targets. But then The Empire started doing things just as bad to their own people and Mayfeld started question them. It didn't come to fruition until after the disastrous battle that got not only uncountable civilians but his own comrades killed but he turned his back on The Empire in the end. [[/folder]]

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** Also if you read between the lines it seems like the operation Mayfeld served on caused him to start questioning what the Empire was doing. He could accept it that they were being more aggressive because hey the galaxy just came out of a massive civil war that devastated hundreds of words and uncountable communities. The Empire was rough but at least they put an end to droid armies roaming the rim committing small scale genocide and terror bombings on civilian targets. But then The Empire started doing things just as bad to their own people and Mayfeld started question them. It didn't come to fruition until after the disastrous battle that got not only uncountable civilians but his own comrades killed but he turned his back on The Empire in the end.
** There is also a key moral distinction between killing enemy soldiers and [[WeHaveReserves killing your own troops]]. Mayfeld is, by this point, a [[DefectorFromDecadence turncoat]], which brings it's own ethical baggage, but Hess was a loyal Imperial officer when he ordered the wholesale killing of his own troops. In comparison, Mayfeld, acting as an agent of the New Republic, was in a much less morally questionable situation when he blew up the base, especially knowing what Hess had told him above. Under most circumstances, enemy soldiers would be considered perfectly legal targets, even if not actively taking hostile action, provided they weren't surrendering, taking to lifeboats, or similar specific protected statuses. If anything he did violated the Laws of Armed Conflict, it was doing all of that while wearing [[FalseFlagOperation an Imperial uniform,]] which is hardly unheard of among the heroes of this franchise.
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[[folder: Family helmet exceptions?]]
I've recently seen two pages that respectively said:
* "they cannot remove their helmet or armor in the presence of anyone except their immediate family"
* "It's also acceptable if the only others around are one's clan."

Is that true? I'm almost certain no such thing has been said on the show. It seems to run counter to Din's "no living thing" statement.

On the pages where these quotes came from, I edited it and removed the family caveat because I assumed it was incorrect. But I've realized maybe ''I'' was wrong, so I'd like to check. Is this family exception mentioned in another piece of Mandalorian media, perhaps? (If so, which sect does it apply to?) Or is it merely a popular headcanon -- people extrapolating and assuming that niqabi rules apply to Mandalorians?

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