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* In "The Gig and the Girlfriend" Jay is forced to follow through on his promise of securing weed for the lads, so he and Neil go to talk to a Black British drug dealer who they noticed punting chronic to another concertgoer. He proceeds to respond in a very standoffish manner to them, saying that they must be racist because they presume that since he's black, he must automatically be a drug dealer. Why did he think he had a leg to stand on with that nonsensical accusation? They saw him, then approached, from an angle (directly perpendicular in fact) which made it very plain what he was offering to the previous customer. He was not being very discreet and his paranoia at not wanting to get caught by the authorities should have informed him that it was likely that other potential customers would observe him doing it, even if he didn't spot the pair of them out of the corner of his eye. As it happens, he got away with the audacity of his accusation (because as problematic as the Inbetweeners boys can be in other areas, they definitely don't appear to be racist, Will's remark about Patrice's French nationality aside) because it turned out that Jay and Neil don't have the social graces to properly refute it (although Neil did try to point out that they saw the transaction, but he got cut off by the dealer continuing to accost them). But how was the drug dealer to know that they would let him roll over them like that? He just had no credibility and was undermining the cause of anti-racism with stupid aspersions like that.

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* In "The Gig and the Girlfriend" Jay is forced to follow through on his promise of securing weed for the lads, so he and Neil go to talk to a Black British drug dealer who they noticed punting chronic to another concertgoer. He proceeds to respond in a very standoffish manner to them, saying that they must be racist because they presume that since he's black, he must automatically be a drug dealer. Why did he think he had a leg to stand on with that nonsensical accusation? They saw him, then approached, from an angle (directly perpendicular in fact) which made it very plain what he was offering to the previous customer. He was not being very discreet and his paranoia at not wanting to get caught by the authorities should have informed him that it was likely that other potential customers would observe him doing it, even if he didn't spot the pair of them out of the corner of his eye. In this context, the colour of his skin is entirely incidental. As it happens, he got away with the audacity of his accusation (because as problematic as the Inbetweeners boys can be in other areas, they definitely don't appear to be racist, Will's remark about Patrice's French nationality aside) because it turned out that Jay and Neil don't have the social graces to properly refute it (although Neil did try to point out that they saw the transaction, but he got cut off by the dealer continuing to accost them). But how was the drug dealer to know that they would let him roll over them like that? He just had no credibility and was undermining the cause of anti-racism with stupid aspersions like that.
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* In "The Gig and the Girlfriend" Jay is forced to follow through on his promise of securing weed for the lads, so he and Neil go to talk to a Black British drug dealer who they noticed punting chronic to another concertgoer. He proceeds to respond in a very standoffish manner to them, saying that they must be racist because they presume that since he's black, he must automatically be a drug dealer. Why did he think he had a leg to stand on with that nonsensical accusation? They saw him, then approached, from an angle (directly perpendicular in fact) which made it very plain what he was offering to the previous customer. He was not being very discreet and his paranoia at not wanting to get caught by the authorities should have informed him that it was likely that other potential customers would observe him doing it, even if he didn't spot the pair of them out of the corner of his eye. As it happens, he got away with the audacity of his accusation (because as problematic as the Inbetweeners boys can be in other areas, they definitely don't appear to be racist, Will's remark about Patrice's French nationality aside) because it turned out that Jay and Neil don't have the social graces to properly refute it (although Neil did try to point out that they saw them, but he got cut off by the dealer continuing to accost them). But how was the drug dealer to know that they would let him roll over them like that? He just had no credibility and was undermining the cause of anti-racism with stupid aspersions like that.

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* In "The Gig and the Girlfriend" Jay is forced to follow through on his promise of securing weed for the lads, so he and Neil go to talk to a Black British drug dealer who they noticed punting chronic to another concertgoer. He proceeds to respond in a very standoffish manner to them, saying that they must be racist because they presume that since he's black, he must automatically be a drug dealer. Why did he think he had a leg to stand on with that nonsensical accusation? They saw him, then approached, from an angle (directly perpendicular in fact) which made it very plain what he was offering to the previous customer. He was not being very discreet and his paranoia at not wanting to get caught by the authorities should have informed him that it was likely that other potential customers would observe him doing it, even if he didn't spot the pair of them out of the corner of his eye. As it happens, he got away with the audacity of his accusation (because as problematic as the Inbetweeners boys can be in other areas, they definitely don't appear to be racist, Will's remark about Patrice's French nationality aside) because it turned out that Jay and Neil don't have the social graces to properly refute it (although Neil did try to point out that they saw them, the transaction, but he got cut off by the dealer continuing to accost them). But how was the drug dealer to know that they would let him roll over them like that? He just had no credibility and was undermining the cause of anti-racism with stupid aspersions like that.
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* In "The Gig and the Girlfriend" Jay is forced to follow through on his promise of securing weed for the lads, so he and Neil go to talk to a Black British drug dealer who they noticed punting chronic to another concertgoer. He proceeds to respond in a very standoffish manner to them, saying that they must be racist because they presume that since he's black, he must automatically be a drug dealer. Why did he think he had a leg to stand on with that nonsensical accusation? They saw him, then approached, from an angle (directly perpendicular in fact) which made it very plain what he was offering to the previous customer. He was not being very discreet and his paranoia at not wanting to get caught by the authorities should have informed him that it was likely that other potential customers would observe him doing it, even if he didn't spot the pair of them out of the corner of his eye. As it happens, he got away with the audacity of his accusation (because as problematic as the Inbetweeners boys can be in other areas, they definitely don't appear to be racist, Will's remark about Patrice's French nationality aside) because it turned out that Jay and Neil don't have the social graces to properly refute it (although Neil did try to point out that they saw them, but he got cut off by the dealer continuing to accost them). But how was the drug dealer to know that they would let him roll over them like that? He just had no credibility and was undermining the cause of anti-racism with stupid aspersions like that.
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* In the episode where they go clubbing, they park in front of a garage door with a warning they may be clamped. Of course, they come back and find the car clamped but the guy who did it is really pissed off at them because since he clamped the car, he missed all his deliveries. If the car was in his way, why the hell did he make it so that the car wouldn't be able to be moved, thus delaying his deliveries even longer? Why didn't he just lift up the back end (since a '94 Fiat Cinquecento only weights 1620 pounds/735 kilograms) and move it or break into the car, release the parking brake and move it that way? Or better yet, since the car was illegally parked, why not just have it towed?

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* In the episode where they go clubbing, they park in front of a garage door with a warning they may be clamped. Of course, they come back and find the car clamped but the guy who did it is really pissed off at them because since he clamped the car, he missed all his deliveries. If the car was in his way, why the hell did he make it so that the car wouldn't be able to be moved, thus delaying his deliveries even longer? Why didn't he just lift up the back end (since a '94 Fiat Cinquecento only weights weighs 1620 pounds/735 kilograms) and move it or break into the car, release the parking brake and move it that way? Or better yet, since the car was illegally parked, why not just have it towed?



** It wasn't that he clamped the car, so he missed all his deliveries. Rather, it was that it was parked at an inconvenient place, he missed all his deliveries. We may have to go with the assumption that he did indeed privately clamp it, rather than the authorities. Will accuses him of private clamping, and he does not refute the claim; it's likely in his boiling anger, the sense of self-righteousness when faced with a false accusation would have made him protest that no he definitely did not fucking do that. Instead, he knows he did it, but chooses to sweep the guilt on being made aware that it's illegal to do so underneath his anger and follow up with more grievances. So maybe he didn't know that to begin with, and presumed that a) it was too heavy to move by himself and b) it would be illegal to break through the window to move it. Plus, even with a shattered window, the boys could still drive away relatively easily, and thus he wouldn't be able to demand money from them for any level of compensation (and again, it being illegal to smash the window, he'd instead have to pay them for the repair). A clamp kinda forces the issue better for him, it was a case of scorched earth.

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** It wasn't that he clamped the car, so he missed all his deliveries. Rather, it was that it was parked at an inconvenient place, so he missed all his deliveries. We may have to go with the assumption that he did indeed privately clamp it, rather than the authorities. Will accuses him of private clamping, and he does not refute the claim; it's likely in his boiling anger, the sense of self-righteousness when faced with a false accusation would have made him protest that no he definitely did not fucking do that. Instead, he knows he did it, but chooses to sweep the guilt on being made aware that it's illegal to do so underneath his anger and follow up with more grievances. So maybe he didn't know that to begin with, and presumed that a) it was too heavy to move by himself and b) it would be illegal to break through the window to move it. Plus, even with a shattered window, the boys could still drive away relatively easily, and thus he wouldn't be able to demand money from them for any level of compensation (and again, it being illegal to smash the window, he'd instead have to pay them for the repair). A clamp kinda forces the issue better for him, it was a case of scorched earth.
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** Using the .srt file for the sequel, the only search hit for the word "virgin" (besides the airline company Virgin Atlantic) is a crack at Will's expense, where they saying that they should use "the mobile virgin conversion unit" (aka that grafiti-ridden car they use as transport in Australia) on him. And he just brushes it off with a sarcastic "brilliant". There may be other allusions to him being a virgin (using synonymous terminology), but one would have to rewatch for that to confirm, and let's assume it is indeed the only mention of it. Now, that's a joke which doesn't necessarily have any bearing on his actual status as a shagger. It could be like in Film/AmericanPie, where Oz never actually confirmed or denied that he had lost his virginity (being a consummate gentleman) and let his friends assume that he hadn't, because he respected his partner too much to cheapen their experience in a bragging story. Or, maybe Simon, Jay and/or Neil know full well he had sex with Alison, but still mock him as a (faux-) virgin regardless due to his pomposity, naivete and general social cluelessness, which is all still very much there despite him having lost it. Your initial inference, that even Will couldn't botch having multiple carnal relations with someone as attractive and into him as Alison, is very likely correct.

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** Using the .srt file for the sequel, the only search hit for the word "virgin" (besides the airline company Virgin Atlantic) is a crack at Will's expense, where they saying say that they should use "the mobile virgin conversion unit" (aka that grafiti-ridden graffiti-ridden car they use as transport in Australia) on him. And he just brushes it off with a sarcastic "brilliant". There may be other allusions to him being a virgin (using synonymous terminology), but one would have to rewatch for that to confirm, and let's assume it is indeed the only mention of it. Now, that's a joke which doesn't necessarily have any bearing on his actual status as a shagger. It could be like in Film/AmericanPie, where Oz never actually confirmed or denied that he had lost his virginity (being a consummate gentleman) and let his friends assume that he hadn't, because he respected his partner too much to cheapen their experience in a bragging story. Or, maybe Simon, Jay and/or Neil know full well he had sex with Alison, but still mock him as a (faux-) virgin regardless due to his pomposity, naivete and general social cluelessness, which is all still very much there despite him having lost it. Your initial inference, that even Will couldn't botch having multiple carnal relations with someone as attractive and into him as Alison, is very likely correct.
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** Using the .srt file for the sequel, the only search hit for the word "virgin" (besides the airline company Virgin Atlantic) is a crack at Will's expense, where they saying that they should use "the mobile virgin conversion unit" (aka that grafiti-ridden car they use as transport in Australia) on him. And he just brushes it off with a sarcastic "brilliant". There may be other allusions to him being a virgin (using synonymous terminology), but one would have to rewatch for that to confirm, and let's assume it is indeed the only mention of it. Now, that's a joke which doesn't necessarily have any bearing on his actual status as a shagger. It could be like in Film/AmericanPie, where Oz never actually confirmed or denied that he had lost his virginity (being a consummate gentleman) and let his friends assume that he hadn't, because he respected his partner too much to cheapen their experience in a bragging story. Or, maybe Simon, Jay and/or Neil know full well he had sex with Alison, but still mock him as a (faux-) virgin regardless due to his pomposity, naivete and general social cluelessness, which is there despite him having lost it. Your initial inference, that even Will couldn't botch having multiple carnal relations with someone as attractive and into him as Alison, is very likely correct.

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** Using the .srt file for the sequel, the only search hit for the word "virgin" (besides the airline company Virgin Atlantic) is a crack at Will's expense, where they saying that they should use "the mobile virgin conversion unit" (aka that grafiti-ridden car they use as transport in Australia) on him. And he just brushes it off with a sarcastic "brilliant". There may be other allusions to him being a virgin (using synonymous terminology), but one would have to rewatch for that to confirm, and let's assume it is indeed the only mention of it. Now, that's a joke which doesn't necessarily have any bearing on his actual status as a shagger. It could be like in Film/AmericanPie, where Oz never actually confirmed or denied that he had lost his virginity (being a consummate gentleman) and let his friends assume that he hadn't, because he respected his partner too much to cheapen their experience in a bragging story. Or, maybe Simon, Jay and/or Neil know full well he had sex with Alison, but still mock him as a (faux-) virgin regardless due to his pomposity, naivete and general social cluelessness, which is all still very much there despite him having lost it. Your initial inference, that even Will couldn't botch having multiple carnal relations with someone as attractive and into him as Alison, is very likely correct.
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** Also Simon didn't really agree to the guys coming, but neither did he really have a choice thanks to the force of Jay's peer pressure to try and chase girls and Will's keen interest in scoping out the uni. If Tara had refused a little harder, he surely would have told them no you have to sit this one out.
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** Maybe the staff in that particular pub turn a blind eye to serving 17 year-olds. It's not uncommon in Britain. Or even the first time it happened in the series.

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** Maybe the staff in that particular pub turn a blind eye to serving 17 year-olds. It's not uncommon in Britain. Or not even the first time it happened in the series.
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** The answer to 3 and 4 may be that, given they had parked near Simon's car in the first place (perhaps arriving around the same time as them), they may have noticed the boys at that time (especially given that Simon reversed and ripped his door off on the sign). That would be one hell of an identifier which sticks out in your mind, and these lads with Down's Syndrome actually seemed relatively smart (they wanted some payback, as shown by them flipping the V-signs to the boys on departure). Returning to the van, they noticed the [[TheAllegedCar garish yellow banger]] and recalled that the boys were lumbering around with the broken door, so this was an opportunity for revenge too good to pass up.

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** The answer to 3 and 4 may be that, given they had parked near Simon's car in the first place (perhaps arriving around the same time as them), they may have noticed the boys at that time (especially given that Simon reversed and ripped his door off on the sign). That would be one hell of an identifier which sticks out in your mind, and these lads with Down's Syndrome actually seemed relatively smart (they wanted some payback, as shown by them flipping the V-signs to the boys on departure). Returning to the van, they noticed the [[TheAllegedCar garish yellow banger]] again and recalled that the boys were lumbering around with the broken door, so this was an opportunity for revenge too good to pass up.



** Using the .srt file for the sequel, the only search hit for the word "virgin" (besides the airline company Virgin Atlantic) is a crack at Will's expense, where they saying that they should use "the mobile virgin conversion unit" (aka that grafiti-ridden car they use as transport in Australia) on him. And he just brushes it off with a sarcastic "brilliant". There may be other allusions to him being a virgin (using synonymous terminology), but one would have to rewatch for that to confirm, and let's assume it is indeed the only mention of it. Now, that's a joke which doesn't necessarily have any bearing on his actual status as a shagger. It could be like in Film/AmericanPie, where Oz never actually confirmed or denied that he had lost his virginity (being a consummate gentleman) and let his friends assume that he hadn't, because he respected his partner too much. Or, maybe Simon, Jay and/or Neil know full well he had sex with Alison, but still mock him as a (faux-) virgin regardless due to his pomposity, naivete and general social cluelessness. Your initial inference, that even Will couldn't botch having multiple carnal relations with someone as attractive and into him as Alison, is very likely correct.

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** Using the .srt file for the sequel, the only search hit for the word "virgin" (besides the airline company Virgin Atlantic) is a crack at Will's expense, where they saying that they should use "the mobile virgin conversion unit" (aka that grafiti-ridden car they use as transport in Australia) on him. And he just brushes it off with a sarcastic "brilliant". There may be other allusions to him being a virgin (using synonymous terminology), but one would have to rewatch for that to confirm, and let's assume it is indeed the only mention of it. Now, that's a joke which doesn't necessarily have any bearing on his actual status as a shagger. It could be like in Film/AmericanPie, where Oz never actually confirmed or denied that he had lost his virginity (being a consummate gentleman) and let his friends assume that he hadn't, because he respected his partner too much. much to cheapen their experience in a bragging story. Or, maybe Simon, Jay and/or Neil know full well he had sex with Alison, but still mock him as a (faux-) virgin regardless due to his pomposity, naivete and general social cluelessness.cluelessness, which is there despite him having lost it. Your initial inference, that even Will couldn't botch having multiple carnal relations with someone as attractive and into him as Alison, is very likely correct.
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** Using the .srt file for the sequel, the only search hit for the word "virgin" (besides the airline company Virgin Atlantic) is a crack at Will's expense, where they saying that they should use "the mobile virgin conversion unit" (aka that grafiti-ridden car they use as transport in Australia) on him. There may be other allusions to him being a virgin (using synonymous terminology), but one would have to rewatch for that to confirm, and let's assume it is indeed the only mention of it. Now, that's a joke which doesn't necessarily have any bearing on his actual status as a shagger. It could be like in Film/AmericanPie, where Oz never actually confirmed or denied that he had lost his virginity (being a consummate gentleman) and let his friends assume that he hadn't, because he respected his partner too much. Or, maybe Simon, Jay and/or Neil know full well he had sex with Alison, but still mock him as a (faux-) virgin regardless due to his pomposity, naivete and general social cluelessness. Your initial inference, that even Will couldn't botch having multiple carnal relations with someone as attractive and into him as Alison, is very likely correct.

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** Using the .srt file for the sequel, the only search hit for the word "virgin" (besides the airline company Virgin Atlantic) is a crack at Will's expense, where they saying that they should use "the mobile virgin conversion unit" (aka that grafiti-ridden car they use as transport in Australia) on him. And he just brushes it off with a sarcastic "brilliant". There may be other allusions to him being a virgin (using synonymous terminology), but one would have to rewatch for that to confirm, and let's assume it is indeed the only mention of it. Now, that's a joke which doesn't necessarily have any bearing on his actual status as a shagger. It could be like in Film/AmericanPie, where Oz never actually confirmed or denied that he had lost his virginity (being a consummate gentleman) and let his friends assume that he hadn't, because he respected his partner too much. Or, maybe Simon, Jay and/or Neil know full well he had sex with Alison, but still mock him as a (faux-) virgin regardless due to his pomposity, naivete and general social cluelessness. Your initial inference, that even Will couldn't botch having multiple carnal relations with someone as attractive and into him as Alison, is very likely correct.

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** The logical deduction would be that he sanctioned it, or even took a leading role in the trashing, because he was also offended by Will's insensitivity. Thankfully for them, there was no chance of legal reprisals as it happened, as Will and the others gave into defeat because of his immense embarrassment. If the caretaker had refused, it would not have happened.




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** The answer to 3 and 4 may be that, given they had parked near Simon's car in the first place (perhaps arriving around the same time as them), they may have noticed the boys at that time (especially given that Simon reversed and ripped his door off on the sign). That would be one hell of an identifier which sticks out in your mind, and these lads with Down's Syndrome actually seemed relatively smart (they wanted some payback, as shown by them flipping the V-signs to the boys on departure). Returning to the van, they noticed the [[TheAllegedCar garish yellow banger]] and recalled that the boys were lumbering around with the broken door, so this was an opportunity for revenge too good to pass up.


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** Despite the school uniform, Will may have secured a convincing fake ID (since having been refused service in the first episode, and being desperate to find any ways to look even mildly cooler to his peers) which would indicate that he's an 18 year old, just about to graduate, and only making him out to be a year older than he actually is.


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** I'm just gonna throw it out there, some sexual partners ''are'' very capable of orally applying a condom to your penis prior to other penetrative sex acts, and it's a very sexy (and even hands-free) act at that. Simon may have been counting on that giving him a... second wind in his sails, so to speak. Unfortunately, both him being too short into the refractory period and Tara likely having little or no oral sex experience (and also not being into the idea) put paid to that. As for Jay, if he genuinely intended for this to be a sexy experience for Simon, that means he didn't count on Tara not digging the idea (but more likely, the fact that Simon felt compelled to add "or your bum..." was the straw that broke the camel's back, and it didn't help that Jay suggested ''that'' variation; otherwise, she may have gone with it better). As far as his advice being inconsistent goes, that's in character for him. There have been other occasions where his lies and braggadocious advice have had inconsistent red flags called out by his friends. The other answers to the question are compelling, but it could just as easily be Jay making up shit advice as he goes along, although sometimes, even a broken clock is right.


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** It wasn't that he clamped the car, so he missed all his deliveries. Rather, it was that it was parked at an inconvenient place, he missed all his deliveries. We may have to go with the assumption that he did indeed privately clamp it, rather than the authorities. Will accuses him of private clamping, and he does not refute the claim; it's likely in his boiling anger, the sense of self-righteousness when faced with a false accusation would have made him protest that no he definitely did not fucking do that. Instead, he knows he did it, but chooses to sweep the guilt on being made aware that it's illegal to do so underneath his anger and follow up with more grievances. So maybe he didn't know that to begin with, and presumed that a) it was too heavy to move by himself and b) it would be illegal to break through the window to move it. Plus, even with a shattered window, the boys could still drive away relatively easily, and thus he wouldn't be able to demand money from them for any level of compensation (and again, it being illegal to smash the window, he'd instead have to pay them for the repair). A clamp kinda forces the issue better for him, it was a case of scorched earth.


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** Using the .srt file for the sequel, the only search hit for the word "virgin" (besides the airline company Virgin Atlantic) is a crack at Will's expense, where they saying that they should use "the mobile virgin conversion unit" (aka that grafiti-ridden car they use as transport in Australia) on him. There may be other allusions to him being a virgin (using synonymous terminology), but one would have to rewatch for that to confirm, and let's assume it is indeed the only mention of it. Now, that's a joke which doesn't necessarily have any bearing on his actual status as a shagger. It could be like in Film/AmericanPie, where Oz never actually confirmed or denied that he had lost his virginity (being a consummate gentleman) and let his friends assume that he hadn't, because he respected his partner too much. Or, maybe Simon, Jay and/or Neil know full well he had sex with Alison, but still mock him as a (faux-) virgin regardless due to his pomposity, naivete and general social cluelessness. Your initial inference, that even Will couldn't botch having multiple carnal relations with someone as attractive and into him as Alison, is very likely correct.

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