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** [[spoiler: The boys]] were probably drugged into near-zombiehood. And the interval between [[spoiler: them being taken away]] and the revolution was probably longer than it looked like, given that one of the characters had time to recover from [[spoiler: having his arm frozen off]].

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** [[spoiler: The boys]] were probably drugged into near-zombiehood. And the interval between [[spoiler: them being taken away]] and the revolution was probably longer than it looked like, given that one of the characters had time to recover from [[spoiler: having his arm frozen off]].off]].
* [[spoiler: Bugs]] may be a very good source of protein, but you can't survive on pure protein for seventeen years. Every one of the tail-enders should be dead of scurvy.


*** Yes, because it is completely illogical on the train and serves no purpose other than to perpetuate a juvenile "the rich want to hurt the poor because evil" narrative.


** Given that [[PlanetEarth the only ''other'' closed-system human civilization traveling through a freezing void, making one complete circuit a year, that we have first-hand experience with]] works the exact same way, with many rich people revelling in nauseating amounts of decadence and waste without a second thought, and many poor living in unimaginable squalor and misery, instead of everybody just sharing resources fairly, is it really so hard to believe that a bootstrapped American entrepreneur like Wilford would give himself and the upper class much more than they need while neglecting the third-class ghettos?

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** Given that [[PlanetEarth [[Series/PlanetEarth the only ''other'' closed-system human civilization traveling through a freezing void, making one complete circuit a year, that we have first-hand experience with]] works the exact same way, with many rich people revelling in nauseating amounts of decadence and waste without a second thought, and many poor living in unimaginable squalor and misery, instead of everybody just sharing resources fairly, is it really so hard to believe that a bootstrapped American entrepreneur like Wilford would give himself and the upper class much more than they need while neglecting the third-class ghettos?



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** The tailenders were almost feral at that point and, as noted towards the end of the film, babies taste the best. They weren't thinking. They just wanted what they considered to be the tastiest thing to eat at that moment.


** The boys were probably drugged into near-zombiehood.

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** [[spoiler: The boys boys]] were probably drugged into near-zombiehood.near-zombiehood. And the interval between [[spoiler: them being taken away]] and the revolution was probably longer than it looked like, given that one of the characters had time to recover from [[spoiler: having his arm frozen off]].


* How exactly did they manage to [[spoiler: brainwash the children in the space of less than a day?]] When Curtis arrives at the engine, [[spoiler: Andy and Timmy already seem to be completely uncaring about who he is]], despite very little time having passed since.

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* How exactly did they manage to [[spoiler: brainwash the children in the space of less than a day?]] When Curtis arrives at the engine, [[spoiler: Andy and Timmy already seem to be completely uncaring about who he is]], despite very little time having passed since.since.
** The boys were probably drugged into near-zombiehood.


* How exactly did they manage to [[spoiler: brainwash the children in the space of less than a day?]] When Curtis arrives at the engine, [spoiler: Andy and Timmy already seem to be completely uncaring about who he is]], despite very little time having passed since.

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* How exactly did they manage to [[spoiler: brainwash the children in the space of less than a day?]] When Curtis arrives at the engine, [spoiler: [[spoiler: Andy and Timmy already seem to be completely uncaring about who he is]], despite very little time having passed since.


* The story makes far more sense if you assume Wilford is also Clairvoyant and has been since he was a kid. Its how he knew that the violin string would snap seconds after the bullet note saying 'blood' was opened. When Wilford was a kid he had a vision that the world would freeze and he loved trains so he made a train that couldn't be frozen. That is why he built a train designed for frozen terrain (why go there) and called it The Snowpiercer (as opposed to The Globe Trotter), it has a water filtration system (the train would most of its time in unfrozen areas and it can just pick up water like normal at a train stop), and why the train has a prison section (unless its for pets?), has crazy high security (its a train, not a bank vault), and why the engine is a perpetual motion machine (why not just have a regular engine). He is not a perfect Clairvoyant though. Let's see how the prequel rolls with it.

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* The story makes far more sense if you assume Wilford is also Clairvoyant and has been since he was a kid. Its how he knew that the violin string would snap seconds after the bullet note saying 'blood' was opened. When Wilford was a kid he had a vision that the world would freeze and he loved trains so he made a train that couldn't be frozen. That is why he built a train designed for frozen terrain (why go there) and called it The Snowpiercer (as opposed to The Globe Trotter), it has a water filtration system (the train would most of its time in unfrozen areas and it can just pick up water like normal at a train stop), and why the train has a prison section (unless its for pets?), has crazy high security (its a train, not a bank vault), and why the engine is a perpetual motion machine (why not just have a regular engine). He is not a perfect Clairvoyant though. Let's see how the prequel rolls with it.it.
* How exactly did they manage to [[spoiler: brainwash the children in the space of less than a day?]] When Curtis arrives at the engine, [spoiler: Andy and Timmy already seem to be completely uncaring about who he is]], despite very little time having passed since.


** The map presumably ''is'' propaganda. If Wilford ''didn't'' claim that the train goes all over the planet, people might start wondering if there's a habitable belt near the equator that they should try to re-direct their course towards, which could get everybody killed if they're wrong and wind up on a dead-end track to nothing but more ice.

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** The map presumably ''is'' propaganda. If Wilford ''didn't'' claim that the train goes all over the planet, people might start wondering if there's a habitable belt near the equator that they should try to re-direct their course towards, which could get everybody killed if they're wrong and wind up on a dead-end track to nothing but more ice.ice.
*The story makes far more sense if you assume Wilford is also Clairvoyant and has been since he was a kid. Its how he knew that the violin string would snap seconds after the bullet note saying 'blood' was opened. When Wilford was a kid he had a vision that the world would freeze and he loved trains so he made a train that couldn't be frozen. That is why he built a train designed for frozen terrain (why go there) and called it The Snowpiercer (as opposed to The Globe Trotter), it has a water filtration system (the train would most of its time in unfrozen areas and it can just pick up water like normal at a train stop), and why the train has a prison section (unless its for pets?), has crazy high security (its a train, not a bank vault), and why the engine is a perpetual motion machine (why not just have a regular engine). He is not a perfect Clairvoyant though. Let's see how the prequel rolls with it.

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* On a similar note, if Edgar's mother was killed trying to protect her baby, why didn't the cannibal youths just eat ''her'' and leave the baby alive? At best it'd be a concession to lingering humanity, at worst it'd keep Edgar's flesh fresh for later.


** Wilford's motives are easier to understand if you assume that [[spoiler: he really couldn't care less if ''humanity'' survives, only if his ''train'' does. And only for as long as he, himself, lives: once he's dead, he'll have achieved his personal dream of lifelong rail travel, and what happens next is somebody else's problem.]]

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** Wilford's motives are easier to understand if you assume that [[spoiler: he really couldn't care less if ''humanity'' survives, only if his ''train'' does. And only for as long as he, himself, lives: once he's dead, he'll have achieved his personal dream of lifelong rail travel, and what happens next is somebody else's problem. Keeping the population stable and the social hierarchy intact is just another aspect of keeping the train's components - whether tail-born child cog or front-end elite - in working order to him.]]



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** Wilford's motives are easier to understand if you assume that [[spoiler: he really couldn't care less if ''humanity'' survives, only if his ''train'' does. And only for as long as he, himself, lives: once he's dead, he'll have achieved his personal dream of lifelong rail travel, and what happens next is somebody else's problem.]]

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* Geography doesn't stick on two different levels. During the classroom scene, we are shown the map of the entire railway. While it's simplified and as part of an advertising cartoon, it still provides a lot of informations and is more than confusing.

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* Geography doesn't stick on two different levels. During the classroom scene, we are shown the map of the entire railway. While it's simplified and as part of an advertising cartoon, it still provides a lot of informations information and is more than confusing.



** The train moves between 70-80 km per hour, which is brought up numerous times. That means making between 600 to 700 thousands kilometers a year. There is no way the whole route is that long, especially as it cuts through polar region.

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** The train moves between 70-80 km per hour, which is brought up numerous times. That means making between 600 to 700 thousands kilometers a year. There is no way the whole route is that long, especially as it cuts through polar region.region.
** The map presumably ''is'' propaganda. If Wilford ''didn't'' claim that the train goes all over the planet, people might start wondering if there's a habitable belt near the equator that they should try to re-direct their course towards, which could get everybody killed if they're wrong and wind up on a dead-end track to nothing but more ice.


** The film makes it clear that tail-section inhabitants aren't even passengers. They are free-loaders. They weren't included in the original plan and Wilford keeps them alive just in case he ever needs them, but does so in the lowest possible effort, because he has no real resources to do so - or so he believes, as they weren't part of his "great plan". Wilford is not stupid in sense of StupidEvil. But he's delusional about own greatness, thus absolutely unable to reconsider his plan could be wrong or things should be done differently. It has nothing to do with being evil for the sake of evil. It's about his inability to accept that he might be wrong. Hubris at its finest. WordOfGod is all about this approach.



** It's easier to use manual labour than trying to manufacture even the most primitive machinery when you lack means and tools to do so. And making new pistons isn't an easy job either. On the other hand, imagine the ending without the reveal. The only reason why Yona was able to convince Curtis into any form of cooperation at this point was showing him the machine in action. Without it, Wilford would just win by talking Curtis down.

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** [[RealityIsUnrealistic It's easier to use manual labour than trying to manufacture even the most primitive machinery when you lack means and tools to do so.so]]. And making new pistons isn't an easy job either. On the other hand, imagine the ending without the reveal. The only reason why Yona was able to convince Curtis into any form of cooperation at this point was showing him the machine in action. Without it, Wilford would just win by talking Curtis down.

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