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** Nostalgia's sake, sort of like a celebratory "Hey, remember when we first snarked at a movie together?" thing - at least for the Bots. Plus the idea of things coming full circle again, the Bots themselves "growing up" the same way children would, and all that other fun sentimental stuff.
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* If the Mads are trying to find a movie that's so bad they can use it to take over the world by showing Joel a bunch of awful movies, wouldn't all the terrible movies sort of wear him down slowly and they'd need to show all the movies to people to break them (Yeah, [=MST3K=] Mantra, but I'm not the only one over thinking things here)?
** [[WordOfGod Forrester is a man whose passion for depravity far exceeds his aptitude.]] In short: any flaw in the Mad's plans can be attributed to their insanity and lack of forethought.

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* If the Mads are trying to find a movie that's so bad they can use it to take over the world by showing Joel a bunch of awful movies, wouldn't all the terrible movies sort of wear him down slowly and they'd need to show all the movies to people to break them (Yeah, [=MST3K=] Mantra, but I'm not the only one over thinking overthinking things here)?
** [[WordOfGod Forrester is a man whose passion for depravity far exceeds his aptitude.]] In short: any flaw in the Mad's Mads' plans can be attributed to their insanity and lack of forethought.



** Mike is a clean-cut blond and writing room overachiever whose incisive wit and verbal precision leads to ''tremendously'' polished riffing. Joel brown-haired memetic stoner and unfathomable oddball whose comedy is so far out of left field that even when it doesn't work, it is a wonder to behold. In an ideal world they'd still be working together, but since they aren't, the BettyAndVeronica contrast makes it tempting to take sides.

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** Mike is a clean-cut blond and writing room overachiever whose incisive wit and verbal precision leads to ''tremendously'' polished riffing. Joel Joel's a brown-haired memetic stoner and unfathomable oddball whose comedy is so far out of left field that even when it doesn't work, it is a wonder to behold. In an ideal world they'd still be working together, but since they aren't, the BettyAndVeronica contrast makes it tempting to take sides.



* One thing that's gotten on my mind lately; why couldn't Joel and Mike just worked together? I mean it'd be understandable if Joel had other commitments, but [[WhatCouldHaveBeen think about what could have happened.]] I even wrote a theme new theme song for the ocasion. What do you think?

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* One thing that's gotten on my mind lately; why couldn't Joel and Mike just worked work together? I mean it'd be understandable if Joel had other commitments, but [[WhatCouldHaveBeen think about what could have happened.]] I even wrote a theme new theme song for the ocasion.occasion. What do you think?



--> ''If you're wondering how they eat and breath,''

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--> ''If you're wondering how they eat and breath,''breathe,''
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** Because it's the one part that's completely irrelevant. In ANY story, it's a given that the characters will survive long enough to finish the plot, no matter how unlikely or ridiculous it is, and so the writers shouldn't feel obligated to give that any detail. Basically, the viewer needs to know why Joel (or Mike) is in space watching movies he doesn't like, or else they will not be invested. What Joel/Mike eats and breathes, however, is not important. Whether they order pizza, cannibalize, or photosynthesize, they are still that guy who sits in space and watches bad movies. When you ask questions like, "Okay, but what does he ''eat''?", you've stopped thinking of it as a show, and thus, the writer no longer has anything for you, because you're just missing the point of what they're trying to do. And THAT'S what "It's just a show; you should really just relax" is supposed to mean.
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*** The Mads did have a vested interest in keeping Joel and Mike alive, after all- if they died, they'd have to keep finding new people to replace them with, or they would have to give up on the experiment. The Mads didn't really care about whether Joel/Mike died, but they didn't want their work to be a waste. As Bobo says, "If we don't help them, then they'll die and we won't have anybody to play with!"

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** JerryLewis also called the satellite that transmitted his annual Labor Day telethon the "Sattelite of Love".

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** JerryLewis also called the satellite that transmitted his annual Labor Day telethon the "Sattelite "Satellite of Love".


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*** Maybe Mirror-Tom has seen "Last of the Wild Horses" of his own volition. He's obviously a fan of the genre...
---> '''Evil Tom:''' I'll destroy you! I'll - oooo, a cowboy movie!!
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* Why after a lengthy explanation of how they got up there, and their purpose in being there being explained as well, is how they actually survive the one topic that off-limits?
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* Did Crow ever get together with the "extra" time paradox Crow from ''TimeChasers''?

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* Did Crow ever get together with the "extra" time paradox Crow from ''TimeChasers''?''Film/TimeChasers''?
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* In episode #611, ''LastOfTheWildHorses'', the evil mirror-universe Tom Servo is stuck in the theater with prime universe Crow and Mike, until the last act, when the prime Servo comes back into the theater. Though he had spent the entire episode trapped in mirror-Deep 13, he seems to automatically know what's going on the film, who the characters are, and even picks up on the running gags. How?

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* In episode #611, ''LastOfTheWildHorses'', ''Film/LastOfTheWildHorses'', the evil mirror-universe Tom Servo is stuck in the theater with prime universe Crow and Mike, until the last act, when the prime Servo comes back into the theater. Though he had spent the entire episode trapped in mirror-Deep 13, he seems to automatically know what's going on the film, who the characters are, and even picks up on the running gags. How?
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** It's the show's motto, not the fans' law.
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**** I always just figured the 'special parts' he used were the electronics that actually made the bots, you know, move and talk and stuff. Their bodies were just cobbled together out of some of the random junk lying around the SOL.

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**** I always just figured the 'special parts' he used were the electronics that actually made the bots, you know, move and talk and stuff. Their bodies were just cobbled together out of some of the random junk lying around the SOL. This is why their arms don't work (as per numerous jokes to the fact).
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** [[DontExplainTheJoke Although I probably shouldn't do this,]] I'll clarify the above: SOL = "Shit Outta Luck." Similarly, the ship being bone-shaped could be a reference to the crew's being, as [[{{Futurama}} another show]] would say, "boned."

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** [[DontExplainTheJoke Although I probably shouldn't do this,]] I'll clarify the above: SOL = "Shit Outta Luck." Similarly, the ship being bone-shaped could be a reference to the crew's being, as [[{{Futurama}} [[{{WesternAnimation/Futurama}} another show]] would say, "boned."

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*If the motto of the the show is"It's just a show; I should really just relax." why does this page exist?
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** End credits are actually a relatively new phenomenon in the world of movies. Prior to the formation of the MPAA, most films only had opening credits, and when the movie ended, it ended. For the later films, rights issues probably stipulated that they had to show all the credits if they wanted to air the film.

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** End credits are actually a relatively new phenomenon in the world of movies. Prior to the formation of the MPAA, most films only had opening credits, and when the movie ended, it ended. For the later films, rights issues probably stipulated that they had to show all the credits if they wanted to air the film. film.
** Probably the latter way more than the former. The MPAA is OlderThanTheyThink, dating back to the '20s. It probably has to do, as mentioned, that with the evolution of more elaborate end credits in the '60s through the early '80s, rights contracts and clearances may have demanded that any showings include the entire credits to satisfy the various production unions' contracts.
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** They don't ''expect'' him to go insane. It's an experiment. The goal is to see ''if'' any of the movies are bad enough to make him go insane on their own.
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* Joel and the rest of the people who helped him develop the show knew it would attract geeks, and geeks tend to analyze stuff like "how he eats and breathes, and other science facts" until it's not fun anymore. So that was added to the theme song to remind everyone that it's a comedy puppet show, and not a sci fi show.
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** I always figured it had more to do with whether or not the film in question was long enough to fill an entire episode.
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** As a practical matter, by the time you subtract commercial breaks and host segments, actual movie time is probably about 70-80 minutes. Since most movies run longer than that, they have to edit out ''something'', and it'd make sense to do that where they're taking breaks anyway.
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** In the ACEG book, they say that the reason they changed the doorway sequence for the Mike-era was simply because they realized the Joel-era doorway sequence looked outdated, and they decided to make it look more elaborate.
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** The Satellite is named for the famous Lou Reed song on his 1973 "Transformer" album, which was sung at the end of all "[=MST3K=] LIVE!" preformances. It's bone-shaped because the writers needed to give the Demon Dogs a reason to attack the ship in episode 103, "Mad Monster".

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** The Satellite is named for the famous Lou Reed song on his 1973 "Transformer" "Music/{{Transformer}}" album, which was sung at the end of all "[=MST3K=] LIVE!" preformances. It's bone-shaped because the writers needed to give the Demon Dogs a reason to attack the ship in episode 103, "Mad Monster".
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** JerryLewis also called the satellite that transmitted his annual Labor Day telethon the "Sattelite of Love".
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****Being a big Cambot fan, I have worried about these same problems and came up with my own explanations for each:
*****Cambot recieved his present during the commercial break.
*****While Pearl was having her freakout, Cambot interupted Tom and Crow bickering and pointed out how none of them said goodbye to ''him.'' Mike and Gypsy gave sincere apologies while Tom and Crow told Cambot to speak up next time.
*****Who do you think was filming that scene in Mike, Tom and Crow's apartment.
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***IIRC, the only people to use that machine are Crow and the future woman from Terror From The Year 5000. I'm pretty sure her suit was covered for that sort of thing.
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***No, they just argued and called each other rude names.
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***In Gamera Vs. Gurion, Joel at one point during the Invention Exchange refers to Crow as Crow The Robot.
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*** The reason the Mads sent him stuff to invent with could be so the Institute thinks Joel is still working there, making inventions. The Mads then have Joel send his inventions back to them, and they in turn send the inventions to the higher ups at the Institute with Joel's name on them. The Institute doesn't wise up to the Mads, Joel stays in space, and they keep getting funding (until they do wise up and the Mads have to move down to Deep 13).
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** That always pissed me off too. Sure, Cambot was mute and impossible to show on screen, but they don't even mention what happened to him when they all get back to earth.
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** The show is named MST3K. The K stands for Karl. Karl is the man who invented lightning. (Canon explanation.)

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** The show is named MST3K.[=MST3K=]. The K stands for Karl. Karl is the man who invented lightning. (Canon explanation.)



** The Satellite is named for the famous Lou Reed song on his 1973 "Transformer" album, which was sung at the end of all "MST3K LIVE!" preformances. It's bone-shaped because the writers needed to give the Demon Dogs a reason to attack the ship in episode 103, "Mad Monster".

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** The Satellite is named for the famous Lou Reed song on his 1973 "Transformer" album, which was sung at the end of all "MST3K "[=MST3K=] LIVE!" preformances. It's bone-shaped because the writers needed to give the Demon Dogs a reason to attack the ship in episode 103, "Mad Monster".



* If the Mads are trying to find a movie that's so bad they can use it to take over the world by showing Joel a bunch of awful movies, wouldn't all the terrible movies sort of wear him down slowly and they'd need to show all the movies to people to break them (Yeah, MST3K Mantra, but I'm not the only one over thinking things here)?

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* If the Mads are trying to find a movie that's so bad they can use it to take over the world by showing Joel a bunch of awful movies, wouldn't all the terrible movies sort of wear him down slowly and they'd need to show all the movies to people to break them (Yeah, MST3K [=MST3K=] Mantra, but I'm not the only one over thinking things here)?



** Everything is played for the lulz on ''MST3K'', homosexual subtext included.

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** Everything is played for the lulz on ''MST3K'', ''[=MST3K=]'', homosexual subtext included.



** Because if Joel hadn't left, Mike wouldn't have become host. Joel didn't leave due to a dispute with Mike, who he worked really well with--in fact, Joel even stated when he left that he felt Mike should have the hosting job. Joel and Jim Mallon, the show's owner/producer, had a dispute with regards to Joel's place in a potential MST3K film franchise in combination with Joel's desire to do other things and his discomfort with being in the spotlight.

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** Because if Joel hadn't left, Mike wouldn't have become host. Joel didn't leave due to a dispute with Mike, who he worked really well with--in fact, Joel even stated when he left that he felt Mike should have the hosting job. Joel and Jim Mallon, the show's owner/producer, had a dispute with regards to Joel's place in a potential MST3K [=MST3K=] film franchise in combination with Joel's desire to do other things and his discomfort with being in the spotlight.



* Slightly meta example but it bugs me a little bit that the TropeNamer for the MST3KMantra doesn't really need it. There's plenty of straight, non-comedy sci-fi that needs more handwaves and suspension of belief then MST3k.
** Yes, but no other show has said it better than "Just think to yourself, 'It's just a show, I should really just relax.'" MST3K had this sentiment in their ''theme song,'' which is why it deserves to be the TropeNamer.

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* Slightly meta example but it bugs me a little bit that the TropeNamer for the MST3KMantra doesn't really need it. There's plenty of straight, non-comedy sci-fi that needs more handwaves and suspension of belief then MST3k.
[=MST3k=].
** Yes, but no other show has said it better than "Just think to yourself, 'It's just a show, I should really just relax.'" MST3K [=MST3K=] had this sentiment in their ''theme song,'' which is why it deserves to be the TropeNamer.
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** Maybe they just wanted to change things up? In my mind, it wouldn't be too surprising if they got tired of seeing the same hallway time and time again.
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* Speaking of the hallways, why did they change the hallways for the Mike episodes? They served the same purpose and were never destroyed in the end, so why change the hallways?

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