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*** Nuada's entire race managed to hide from humanity for several hundred years before the movie's events. Even if humanity somehow figured out he was the key - which would be unlikely since the only people at the BPRD who knew were all on the mission and potentially about to die - they'd have to find him while trying to fight off an infinitely-respawning army. My money would've been on the Golden Army.


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* Is it just me, or does the king seem kinda like a JerkAss ? I mean, he's all like, "Oh kill me, I can't stop you from taking this piece...and by the way, feel free to massacre my guards, too."
** I think at that point, he was 1) seriously world-weary, I mean barely-hanging-on, and 2) he may have still been hoping that either the guards would manage to subdue Nuada or said prince wouldn't have it in him to kill his father. Wrong on both counts, but the millenia have been hard on Balor.

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** Just because the humans in question weren't fey folk or techno-geeks doesn't mean they couldn't have been really formidable magic-users themselves. They may have had loads of sorcerers backing up and enhancing their conventional troops, whose powers would make modern-day wannabes like Rasputin look like stage magicians pulling coins out of ears.

* Is it just me, or does the king seem kinda like a JerkAss ? JerkAss? I mean, he's all like, "Oh kill me, I can't stop you from taking this piece...and by the way, feel free to massacre my guards, too."
** I think at that point, he was 1) seriously world-weary, I mean barely-hanging-on, and 2) he may have still been hoping that either the guards would manage to subdue Nuada or said prince wouldn't have it in him to kill his father. Wrong on both counts, but the millenia millennia have been hard on Balor.


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** I think the point is that all beings are created with strengths and weaknesses; the humans have that whole never-gonna-be-satisfied thing, the elves are destined to fade away LordOfTheRings style. The whole reason Nuada could actually try to change things is that he was obviously off his rocker.

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** I think the point is that all beings are created with strengths and weaknesses; the humans have that whole never-gonna-be-satisfied thing, the elves are destined to fade away LordOfTheRings style.''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''-style. The whole reason Nuada could actually try to change things is that he was obviously off his rocker.


** Hellboy had one field mission before he became a celebrity, with talk show interviews and magazine covers. He's met several presidents from a young age. We find out that he became a minor wrestling celebrity in Mexico during a drunken bender, and that there are movie serials based around him. He's strange but in a way that, probably purposefully, has been normalized to the public. If you want a real-world equivalent, consider Sammy Davis Jr. Also, as the poster above mentioned, Hellboy's world is different from ours. It's stranger. The BPRD had equivalent rival factions in other countries. There are orders of mystics and super scientists that got up to all sorts of strange things. The major cities of the world have underground armies of savage, mindless cannibals, ALL of them do. There are historic, verified appearances of werewolves, vampires and witches. A man in power armor, fueled by comsic life energy, fought a skeleton wreathed in black flames during WW2. There was a steam-punk mecha brawl that took place in 1930s New York City. The strange and horrific are just common enough that people like Kate Corrigan can get government jobs thanks to their degrees in folklore.

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** Hellboy had one field mission before he became a celebrity, with talk show interviews and magazine covers. He's met several presidents from a young age. We find out that he became a minor wrestling celebrity in Mexico during a drunken bender, and that there are movie serials based around him. He's strange but in a way that, probably purposefully, has been normalized to the public. If you want a real-world equivalent, consider Sammy Davis Jr. Also, as the poster above mentioned, Hellboy's world is different from ours. It's stranger. The BPRD had equivalent rival factions in other countries. There are orders of mystics and super scientists that got up to all sorts of strange things. The major cities of the world have underground armies of savage, mindless cannibals, ALL of them do. There are historic, verified appearances of werewolves, vampires and witches. A man in power armor, fueled by comsic life energy, fought a skeleton wreathed in black flames during WW2.UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. There was a steam-punk mecha brawl that took place in 1930s New York City. The strange and horrific are just common enough that people like Kate Corrigan can get government jobs thanks to their degrees in folklore.


** We know now, thanks to the Crimson Lotus miniseries. They are just normal monkeys that the Lotus puts enchanted Noh masks onto, that make them her familiars/slaves. In addition to the monkeys, she puts a similar mask onto a larger simian as well. In short, it was just magic to turn monkeys into soldiers. Don't worry about it.



** Supposedly, the fair folk were supposed to either assist mankind in resisting the apocalypse, or just fade into the shadows of the world. Meaning, they'd go into fairy realms, like the one Baba Yaga rules, and no longer interfere with the mortal world. This is also true for the next race of fairy that are being born/created/transformed in what was once Britain. The fair folk are/were never supposed to be important for earth shaking events, their destiny is to become irrelevant. Gruagach refusing to accept that is what lead to all that bloodshed and horror.



** They are primordial evil beings that exist to oppose "capital G" God and all of creation. Also, according to the transdimensional aliens, who we see in Seed of Darkness, Conqueror Worm and the Visitor, Earth is just the first step before their evil corrupts "all other dimensions."



** Hellboy had one field mission before he became a celebrity, with talk show interviews and magazine covers. He's met several presidents from a young age. We find out that he became a minor wrestling celebrity in Mexico during a drunken bender, and that there are movie serials based around him. He's strange but in a way that, probably purposefully, has been normalized to the public. If you want a real-world equivalent, consider Sammy Davis Jr. Also, as the poster above mentioned, Hellboy's world is different from ours. It's stranger. The BPRD had equivalent rival factions in other countries. There are orders of mystics and super scientists that got up to all sorts of strange things. The major cities of the world have underground armies of savage, mindless cannibals, ALL of them do. There are historic, verified appearances of werewolves, vampires and witches. A man in power armor, fueled by comsic life energy, fought a skeleton wreathed in black flames during WW2. There was a steam-punk mecha brawl that took place in 1930s New York City. The strange and horrific are just common enough that people like Kate Corrigan can get government jobs thanks to their degrees in folklore.



** The current answer is a big yes, with the caveat that by the time of the "modern" era stories, most have either gone underground, or fallen apart. Russia has the SSS, China used to have the Golden Crane Society, Germany had the Sonnenrad Society and of course Project Ragna Rok, the UK had many equivalents, but the official ones were the Foundry, and the Special Intelligence Directorate, and even the USA had a shadier organization devoted largely to weaponizing the supernatural. The Hellboy and the BPRD series seems to be following the interactions of several of these groups as its current overarching storyline.




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** Hellboy is an international celebrity. An American one.


*** Also who's to say he would stop with Humanity? If he succeeded in wiping out Humanity, who's going to stop him if wants another race dead. Not only that, but how would you stop him from doing that? Now that he's destroyed your only real ally against him and his army.

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*** Also who's to say he would stop with Humanity? If he succeeded in wiping out Humanity, who's going to stop him if wants another race dead. Not only that, but that but, how would you stop him from doing that? Now that he's destroyed your only real ally against him and his army.

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*** Also who's to say he would stop with Humanity? If he succeeded in wiping out Humanity, who's going to stop him if wants another race dead. Not only that, but how would you stop him from doing that? Now that he's destroyed your only real ally against him and his army.

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** Maybe it was more tiring than expected, and he realized it would be impossible to keep doing it against a regenerating army.


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** Strictly speaking, the humans would just have to kill Nuada to disable the Army. A straight-up fight would be impossible, but the armed forces of the world have plenty of incisive weapons. Of course, they'd have to first find out that Nuada is the key.



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* In the first story featuring the Baba Yaga, Hellboy and Kate are in Russia when a peasant approaches them asking if they're Americans. Why isn't he freaked out when he sees Hellboy, a demon?


** For all we know, she ''would'' have challenged him if there was no other way. But Hellboy was there, he was qualified and willing to cut loose in a duel with her brother, and there was at least a chance (albeit remote) that he could subdue Nuada without killing him. And if he ''did'' kill Nuada, at least her twin would get to die honorably, battling a worthy opponent: something she'd prefer for the brother she still cares for, however far off the deep end he's gone.

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** For all we know, she ''would'' have challenged him if there was no other way. But Hellboy was there, he was qualified and willing to cut loose in a duel with her brother, and there was at least a chance (albeit remote) that he could subdue Nuada without killing him. And if he Hellboy ''did'' kill Nuada, at least her twin would get to die honorably, battling a worthy opponent: something she'd prefer for the brother she still cares for, however far off the deep end he's gone.

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** For all we know, she ''would'' have challenged him if there was no other way. But Hellboy was there, he was qualified and willing to cut loose in a duel with her brother, and there was at least a chance (albeit remote) that he could subdue Nuada without killing him. And if he ''did'' kill Nuada, at least her twin would get to die honorably, battling a worthy opponent: something she'd prefer for the brother she still cares for, however far off the deep end he's gone.


*** That would be another JustBugsMe; I'm guessing that Golden Army was pretty impressive when the opposition was using spears and shields. In a modern context? Not so much. The Prince's plan was pretty hopeless. But that's beside the point; ''in story'', it's treated like a terrible threat to human survival, and yet Abe Sapien potentially screws everybody over for the sake of getting back a woman he barely knows. That's less romantic and more sociopathic.

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*** That would be another JustBugsMe; issue; I'm guessing that Golden Army was pretty impressive when the opposition was using spears and shields. In a modern context? Not so much. The Prince's plan was pretty hopeless. But that's beside the point; ''in story'', it's treated like a terrible threat to human survival, and yet Abe Sapien potentially screws everybody over for the sake of getting back a woman he barely knows. That's less romantic and more sociopathic.


*** Given BPDR knows about it(Prof. Trevor read the freaking story to Hellboy more or less 50 years ago), at least a few governments are aware of the treaty. And the people at the auction know about the story. Problem is, everyone living in TheMasquerade thinks it's a legend, and proceeded to promptly ignored the intended Aesop, while the people who are aware simply ''don't care''. For BPDR and everyone affiliated to them, their job is keeping humanity safe, which means screw all the freaks and fairies(Manning outright says that in the first movie, when he thinks Hellboy should be locked up as well). It's likely humanity has been remembered of the deal over and over through the millennia, but proceeded to ignore/forget/dismiss/counter it for self-benefit. Nuada just hit his limit when everyone else, even his family, decided to just accept it and let the fairy races die. And humanity doesn't help its case when Hellboy reveals himself and most people react with mockery or scorn.

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*** Given BPDR BPRD knows about it(Prof.it (Prof. Trevor read the freaking story to Hellboy more or less 50 years ago), at least a few governments are aware of the treaty. And the people at the auction know about the story. Problem is, everyone living in TheMasquerade thinks it's a legend, and proceeded to promptly ignored the intended Aesop, while the people who are aware simply ''don't care''. For BPDR BPRD and everyone affiliated to them, their job is keeping humanity safe, which means screw all the freaks and fairies(Manning fairies (Manning outright says that in the first movie, when he thinks Hellboy should be locked up as well). It's likely humanity has been remembered of the deal over and over through the millennia, but proceeded to ignore/forget/dismiss/counter it for self-benefit. Nuada just hit his limit when everyone else, even his family, decided to just accept it and let the fairy races die. And humanity doesn't help its case when Hellboy reveals himself and most people react with mockery or scorn.

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** Although it doesn't come up much, we know that Hellboy lives in a StandardSuperheroSetting. Lobster Johnson? The Torch of Liberty, a Captain America {{Expy}} mentioned in "Seed of Destruction"? When you could plausibly encounter a superhero, a guy with red skin and stumpy horns probably isn't too shocking a sight, especially if you don't understand his origins. Remember when Ilsa first sees Hellboy in "Wake the Devil" she mutters something about thinking Hellboy is a circus freak of some kind.

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