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* At the end, Grune grants the gift of summon spirits: Rem, Efreet, Celsius, Gnome, Volt, and Shadow. Seems odd to not include Udine, right? Wait a minute - there's already a water deity here: ''Nerifes''.
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** So why does ''Jay'' get the ''Green'' glowing Eres instead of the ''purple'', and why not ''Grune''? The line is ROYGBIV - Green is ''dead'' in the middle. That's his own arc: That he's surrounded by friends and found family between the party and the Oresoren.
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* FridgeBrilliance: There's no Holy element in this game. Instead, there's "Sea" and "Curse". Sea is actually ''sacred'' in this game so ''it's'' the "Holy". This also means that water-oriented spells like Spread, Maelstrom, Tidal Wave, and Aqua Laser are basically light-elemental spells, and thus Brilliant Lance, Judgment, and Ray (traditionally light spells) are sea.
* FridgeLogic: The hidden door at the Ruins of Frozen Light. Yes, Jay could have just told the party about it, but there was ''a closed door behind the hidden door''. Either way, they would have had to go through the Great Hollow and the Underground Lake to get inside the Ruins, due to the second door that was behind the hidden door. Seeing as they opened the second door from ''inside'' the Ruins, they couldn't have gotten in even ''if'' Jay told them about the hidden door.
** If the Ferines can live in the ocean, why bother living on land at all?
*** [[spoiler: The sea had been extremely rough ever since the Orerines created the first landmasses. Presumably, it was too rough for the Ferines to live in.]]
* FridgeLogic: The hidden door at the Ruins of Frozen Light. Yes, Jay could have just told the party about it, but there was ''a closed door behind the hidden door''. Either way, they would have had to go through the Great Hollow and the Underground Lake to get inside the Ruins, due to the second door that was behind the hidden door. Seeing as they opened the second door from ''inside'' the Ruins, they couldn't have gotten in even ''if'' Jay told them about the hidden door.
** If the Ferines can live in the ocean, why bother living on land at all?
*** [[spoiler: The sea had been extremely rough ever since the Orerines created the first landmasses. Presumably, it was too rough for the Ferines to live in.]]
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*FridgeBrilliance: There's no Holy element in this game. Instead, there's "Sea" and "Curse". Sea is actually ''sacred'' in this game so ''it's'' the "Holy". This also means that water-oriented spells like Spread, Maelstrom, Tidal Wave, and Aqua Laser are basically light-elemental spells, and thus Brilliant Lance, Judgment, and Ray (traditionally light spells) are sea.
*FridgeLogic: At the very ''very'' end of the game, notice the colours of everyone's Eres.
** The seven ''mortal'' party members all have the seven colours. Note Senel's - It's dark blue. This doesn't represent blue: It represents ''Indigo''. In the rainbow? Indigo is between violet (Chloe) and blue (Shirley). This showcases the love triangle. So obviously, that's why ''Chloe'' has violet - not ''Jay'' who ''wears purple''.
** Grune meanwhile? She doesn't have green: Hers is white. Why white? Because it's ''all'' the colours - whreas Schwartz has ''none''. Because Black is the ''absence'' of colour, whereas most people assume it to be white.
** Shirley has light blue - specifically Cyan. Why that? ''Sea colour''.
* So why does Shirley not have many "Sea" aligned artes except for Tidal Wave? Early on, she was allergic to seawater, which is revealed to be Nerifes. Considering when she ''learns'' Tidal Wave (in the game's final act), by that point they'll have communed with the ''Great'' Nerifes.
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* The hidden door at the Ruins of Frozen Light. Yes, Jay could have just told the party about it, but there was ''a closed door behind the hidden door''. Either way, they would have had to go through the Great Hollow and the Underground Lake to get inside the Ruins, due to the second door that was behind the hidden door. Seeing as they opened the second door from ''inside'' the Ruins, they couldn't have gotten in even ''if'' Jay told them about the hidden door.
** * If the Ferines can live in the ocean, why bother living on land at all?
*** ** [[spoiler: The sea had been extremely rough ever since the Orerines created the first landmasses. Presumably, it was too rough for the Ferines to live in.]]
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** The seven ''mortal'' party members all have the seven colours. Note Senel's - It's dark blue. This doesn't represent blue: It represents ''Indigo''. In the rainbow? Indigo is between violet (Chloe) and blue (Shirley). This showcases the love triangle. So obviously, that's why ''Chloe'' has violet - not ''Jay'' who ''wears purple''.
** Grune meanwhile? She doesn't have green: Hers is white. Why white? Because it's ''all'' the colours - whreas Schwartz has ''none''. Because Black is the ''absence'' of colour, whereas most people assume it to be white.
** Shirley has light blue - specifically Cyan. Why that? ''Sea colour''.
* So why does Shirley not have many "Sea" aligned artes except for Tidal Wave? Early on, she was allergic to seawater, which is revealed to be Nerifes. Considering when she ''learns'' Tidal Wave (in the game's final act), by that point they'll have communed with the ''Great'' Nerifes.
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* The hidden door at the Ruins of Frozen Light. Yes, Jay could have just told the party about it, but there was ''a closed door behind the hidden door''. Either way, they would have had to go through the Great Hollow and the Underground Lake to get inside the Ruins, due to the second door that was behind the hidden door. Seeing as they opened the second door from ''inside'' the Ruins, they couldn't have gotten in even ''if'' Jay told them about the hidden door.
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* How do the heck Orerines able to use eres? Since the Raging Nerifes is the source of that power and Orerines are the ones who brought trouble to the planet and [[spoiler:1. They are from a different planet 2. They are the ones who terraformed that planet and causing the seas to become abnormal and 3.Orerines are killing its servants/worshipers.]], why would Nerifes grant them the use of eres if they cause so much trouble for it and the planet? Was it a mistake? Did it hope that Orerines would wipes themselves out with the power? Are all the Orerines erens are somehow descendents of interbreeding between a Orerines and a Ferines? Why?
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* How do the heck Orerines able to use eres? Since the Raging Nerifes is the source of that power and Orerines are the ones who brought trouble to the planet and [[spoiler:1. They are from a different planet Are not natives of the Shining Blue, 2. They are the ones who terraformed that the planet which changed the planet forever and causing killed many Ferines in the seas to become abnormal process and 3.3. Orerines are killing and discriminating against its servants/worshipers.servants/worshipers to this day.]], why would Nerifes grant them the use of eres if they cause so much trouble for it and the planet? Was it a mistake? Did it hope that Orerines would wipes themselves out with the power? Are all the Orerines erens are somehow descendents of interbreeding between a Orerines and a Ferines? Why?
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** The Party never states their personal feelings about [[spoiler: Maurits]] after defeating him and it's clear the [[spoiler: Ferines]] still rally around him as a political leader. Attempting to incarcerate or execute him is likely to increase hostilities with the [[spoiler: Ferines. (Although just how organized, centralized, heterogeneous etc. Ferines society is remains unclear)]]
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** In the second half of the game, it's shown that a significant amount of time had passed. During that time, the Ferines isolated themselves from the Orerines. One can presume that Mauritz did a considerable amount of thinking during that time, with possible help from Shirley. Shirley being a go-between for the two parties may have allowed some of the animosity to wither. It also helps that both she and Senel knew what kind of man Mauritz was before all of this happened.
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** In Another possibility is that during the second half of the game, it's shown that a significant decent amount of time had passed. During that time, the Ferines isolated themselves from the Orerines. One can presume that Mauritz did a considerable amount of thinking during that time, with possible help from Shirley. Shirley being a go-between for the two parties may have allowed some of the animosity to wither. It also helps that both she and Senel knew what kind of man Mauritz was before all of this happened.
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* [[spoiler: Now WAIT A MINUTE! How did Maurits ''survive'' being overtaken by Nerifes and why's he now a good guy? What made him change his ways when he seemed so [[KnightTemplar hell bent on drowning the entire world and destroying all Orerines]], and even if he did change, what would make the party members so [[EasilyForgiven easily forgive]] [[KarmaHoudini HIM?]]]]
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* [[spoiler: Now WAIT A MINUTE! How did Maurits Mauritz ''survive'' being overtaken by Nerifes and why's he now a good guy? What made him change his ways when he seemed so [[KnightTemplar hell bent on drowning the entire world and destroying all Orerines]], and even if he did change, what would make the party members so [[EasilyForgiven easily forgive]] [[KarmaHoudini HIM?]]]]HIM?]]]]
** When facing the final boss, you'll notice that you're facing the "Raging" Nerifes itself, an entity comprised entirely of water, not the possessed Mauritz. As for how he suddenly became good, the "Quiet" Nerifes may have aided in quelling his animosity now that the Raging Nerifes had been beaten into submission.
** In the second half of the game, it's shown that a significant amount of time had passed. During that time, the Ferines isolated themselves from the Orerines. One can presume that Mauritz did a considerable amount of thinking during that time, with possible help from Shirley. Shirley being a go-between for the two parties may have allowed some of the animosity to wither. It also helps that both she and Senel knew what kind of man Mauritz was before all of this happened.
** When facing the final boss, you'll notice that you're facing the "Raging" Nerifes itself, an entity comprised entirely of water, not the possessed Mauritz. As for how he suddenly became good, the "Quiet" Nerifes may have aided in quelling his animosity now that the Raging Nerifes had been beaten into submission.
** In the second half of the game, it's shown that a significant amount of time had passed. During that time, the Ferines isolated themselves from the Orerines. One can presume that Mauritz did a considerable amount of thinking during that time, with possible help from Shirley. Shirley being a go-between for the two parties may have allowed some of the animosity to wither. It also helps that both she and Senel knew what kind of man Mauritz was before all of this happened.
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* FridgeBrilliance: There's no Holy element in this game. Instead, there's "Sea" and "Curse". Sea is actually ''sacred'' in this game so ''it's'' the "Holy". This also means that water-oriented spells like Spread, Maelstrom, Tidal Wave, and Aqua Laser are sea, as well as Judgment, Ray, and Brilliant Lance.
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* FridgeBrilliance: There's no Holy element in this game. Instead, there's "Sea" and "Curse". Sea is actually ''sacred'' in this game so ''it's'' the "Holy". This also means that water-oriented spells like Spread, Maelstrom, Tidal Wave, and Aqua Laser are sea, as well as basically light-elemental spells, and thus Brilliant Lance, Judgment, Ray, and Brilliant Lance.Ray (traditionally light spells) are sea.
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** FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: Chances are... the weapons were made after they landed... and adapted to use the Eres of the Ferines. The Ferines obviously decide that the end justifies the means.]]
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** FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: Chances are... the weapons were made after they landed... and adapted to use the Eres of the Ferines. The Ferines obviously decide that the end justifies the means.]]
*** [[spoiler: The Nerifes Cannon and Wings of Light both use the Ferines as a power source, so it's likely they were either built or heavily modified after the Orerines landed on Shining Blue. Since the Ferines power the weapons, and the ship's systems had effectively been powered and controlled by a Ferines for three years prior to the start of the game, it makes sense that they can also use them.]]
*** [[spoiler: The Nerifes Cannon and Wings of Light both use the Ferines as a power source, so it's likely they were either built or heavily modified after the Orerines landed on Shining Blue. Since the Ferines power the weapons, and the ship's systems had effectively been powered and controlled by a Ferines for three years prior to the start of the game, it makes sense that they can also use them.]]
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* Why are only Ferines able to fire the Legacy's weapons? It an Orerines ship. Presumably it had weapons even way before the Orerines had contact with the Ferines.
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* Why are only Ferines able to fire the Legacy's weapons? It an Orerines ship. Presumably it had weapons even way before the Orerines had contact with the Ferines.Ferines.
** FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: Chances are... the weapons were made after they landed... and adapted to use the Eres of the Ferines. The Ferines obviously decide that the end justifies the means.]]
** FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: Chances are... the weapons were made after they landed... and adapted to use the Eres of the Ferines. The Ferines obviously decide that the end justifies the means.]]
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** An alternate theory is that the "Quiet Nerifes" granted the Oerines the power in hope that they would calm its rage.
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** An alternate theory is that the "Quiet Nerifes" granted the Oerines the power in hope that they would calm its rage.rage.
* Why are only Ferines able to fire the Legacy's weapons? It an Orerines ship. Presumably it had weapons even way before the Orerines had contact with the Ferines.
* Why are only Ferines able to fire the Legacy's weapons? It an Orerines ship. Presumably it had weapons even way before the Orerines had contact with the Ferines.
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** I believe it's mentioned somewhere that Eres only appeared among Orerines within the last fifty years. So there is definitely reason to believe the interbreeding theory. Though considering the state of relations between the two groups, that has its own [[RapePillageAndBurn uncomfortable implications]].
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** I believe it's mentioned somewhere that Eres only appeared among Orerines within the last fifty years. So there is definitely reason to believe the interbreeding theory. Though considering the state of relations between the two groups, that has its own [[RapePillageAndBurn uncomfortable implications]].implications]].
** An alternate theory is that the "Quiet Nerifes" granted the Oerines the power in hope that they would calm its rage.
** An alternate theory is that the "Quiet Nerifes" granted the Oerines the power in hope that they would calm its rage.
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* How do the heck Orerines able to use eres? Since the Raging Nerifes is the source of that power and Orerines are the ones who brought trouble to the planet and [[spoiler:1. They are from a different planet 2. They are the ones who terraformed that planet and causing the seas to become abnormal and 3.Orerines are killing its servants/worshipers.]], why would Nerifes grant them the use of eres if they cause so much trouble for it and the planet? Was it a mistake? Did it hope that Orerines would wipes themselves out with the power? Are all the Orerines erens are somehow descendents of interbreeding between a Orerines and a Ferines? Why?
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* How do the heck Orerines able to use eres? Since the Raging Nerifes is the source of that power and Orerines are the ones who brought trouble to the planet and [[spoiler:1. They are from a different planet 2. They are the ones who terraformed that planet and causing the seas to become abnormal and 3.Orerines are killing its servants/worshipers.]], why would Nerifes grant them the use of eres if they cause so much trouble for it and the planet? Was it a mistake? Did it hope that Orerines would wipes themselves out with the power? Are all the Orerines erens are somehow descendents of interbreeding between a Orerines and a Ferines? Why?Why?
** I believe it's mentioned somewhere that Eres only appeared among Orerines within the last fifty years. So there is definitely reason to believe the interbreeding theory. Though considering the state of relations between the two groups, that has its own [[RapePillageAndBurn uncomfortable implications]].
** I believe it's mentioned somewhere that Eres only appeared among Orerines within the last fifty years. So there is definitely reason to believe the interbreeding theory. Though considering the state of relations between the two groups, that has its own [[RapePillageAndBurn uncomfortable implications]].
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* [[spoiler: Now WAIT A MINUTE! How did Maurits ''survive'' being overtaken by Nerifes and why's he now a good guy? What made him change his ways when he seemed so [[KnightTemplar hell bent on drowning the entire world and destroying all Orerines]], and even if he did change, what would make the party members so [[EasilyForgiven easily forgive]] [[KarmaHoudini HIM?]]]]HIM?]]]]
* How do the heck Orerines able to use eres? Since the Raging Nerifes is the source of that power and Orerines are the ones who brought trouble to the planet and [[spoiler:1. They are from a different planet 2. They are the ones who terraformed that planet and causing the seas to become abnormal and 3.Orerines are killing its servants/worshipers.]], why would Nerifes grant them the use of eres if they cause so much trouble for it and the planet? Was it a mistake? Did it hope that Orerines would wipes themselves out with the power? Are all the Orerines erens are somehow descendents of interbreeding between a Orerines and a Ferines? Why?
* How do the heck Orerines able to use eres? Since the Raging Nerifes is the source of that power and Orerines are the ones who brought trouble to the planet and [[spoiler:1. They are from a different planet 2. They are the ones who terraformed that planet and causing the seas to become abnormal and 3.Orerines are killing its servants/worshipers.]], why would Nerifes grant them the use of eres if they cause so much trouble for it and the planet? Was it a mistake? Did it hope that Orerines would wipes themselves out with the power? Are all the Orerines erens are somehow descendents of interbreeding between a Orerines and a Ferines? Why?
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* [[spoiler: Now WAIT A MINUTE! How did Maurits ''survive'' being overtaken by Nerifes and why's he now a good guy? What made him change his ways when he seemed so [[KnightTemplar hell bent on drowning the entire world and destroying all Orerines]], and even if he did change, what would make the party members so [[EasilyForgiven easily forgive]] [[KarmaHoudini HIM?]]HIM?]]]]
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Please don\'t shoehorn memes, even in fridge pages.
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* [[spoiler: Now WAIT A MINUTE! How did Maurits ''survive'' being overtaken by Nerifes and why's he now a good guy? What made him change his ways when he seemed so [[KnightTemplar hell bent on drowning the entire world and destroying all Orerines]], and even if he did change, what would make the party members so [[EasilyForgiven easily forgive]] [[KarmaHoudini HIM?]] [[TheNostalgiaCritic JUUUUST....EEEEX...PLAAAAAAAAAAIN!]]]]HIM?]]
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* [[spoiler: Now WAIT A MINUTE! How did Maurits ''survive'' being overtaken by Nerifes and why's he now a good guy? What made him change his ways when he seemed so [[KnightTemplar hell bent on drowning the entire world and destroying all Orerines]], and even if he did change, what would make the party members so [[EasilyForgiven easily forgive]] [[KarmaHoudini HIM?]] [[TheNostalgiaCritic JUUUUST....EEEEX...PLAAAAAAAAAAIN!]]PLAAAAAAAAAAIN!]]]]
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