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Maybe Jenny's parents hire him to be a servant.
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* One that seems to go over some heads: During their final battle, DeSoto isn't just pinning Dodger's neck to torture him. Look at how close the tracks underneath get to Dodger's head. DeSoto specifically has his paw planted in a spot that forces Dodger's head back, and keeps pushing down on that foot until he's knocked off. DeSoto is trying to use the tracks to rip Dodger's head off.
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* One that seems to go over some heads: During their final battle, DeSoto [=DeSoto=] isn't just pinning Dodger's neck to torture him. Look at how close the tracks underneath get to Dodger's head. DeSoto [=DeSoto=] specifically has his paw planted in a spot that forces Dodger's head back, and keeps pushing down on that foot until he's knocked off. DeSoto [=DeSoto=] is trying to use the tracks to rip Dodger's head off.
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* One that seems to go over some heads: During their final battle, DeSoto isn't just pinning Dodger's neck to torture him. Look at how close the tracks underneath get to Dodger's head. DeSoto specifically has his paw planted in a spot that forces Dodger's head back, and keeps pushing down on that foot until he's knocked off. DeSoto is trying to use the tracks to rip Dodger's head off.
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** That ironing board [[RuleOfSymbolism only drops to the level he's comfortable with]]; however, later, Fagin seems uneasy and nervous when [[UpToEleven he takes the elevator down to Sykes' office]].
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** That ironing board [[RuleOfSymbolism only drops to the level he's comfortable with]]; with; however, later, Fagin seems uneasy and nervous when [[UpToEleven he takes the elevator down to Sykes' office]].
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** [=DeSoto=], the sadistic of the two, was torturing Dodger instead of outright killing him (holding his paw on Dodger's neck), which caused his death by the same cat he picked on and threatened at the film's start ironically.
* The film treats Georgette's breaking of a nail as wimpy and a sign of her being spoilt and pampered. IBrokeANail is a discredited trope - but it's ''especially'' justified why she would scream when it's broken - when a dog breaks a nail? It's ''bloody''. There is a reason that when dogs' nails are cut, they are filed off.
* The film treats Georgette's breaking of a nail as wimpy and a sign of her being spoilt and pampered. IBrokeANail is a discredited trope - but it's ''especially'' justified why she would scream when it's broken - when a dog breaks a nail? It's ''bloody''. There is a reason that when dogs' nails are cut, they are filed off.
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** [=DeSoto=], the sadistic of the two, one, was torturing Dodger instead of outright killing him (holding his paw on Dodger's neck), which caused his death by the same cat he picked on taunted and threatened at the film's start ironically.
* The film treats Georgette's breaking of a nail as wimpy and a sign of her being spoilt and pampered. IBrokeANail is a discredited trope - but it's ''especially'' justified why she would scream when it's broken - when a dog breaks a nail? It's ''bloody''. There is a reasonthat when dogs' nails are cut, they are get filed off.off when cut.
* The film treats Georgette's breaking of a nail as wimpy and a sign of her being spoilt and pampered. IBrokeANail is a discredited trope - but it's ''especially'' justified why she would scream when it's broken - when a dog breaks a nail? It's ''bloody''. There is a reason
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* Imagine being Winston. You learn the child that the parents entrusted to your care while they're away had snuck out of the house and gone God knows where and why. Then some [[TheSociopath Mafia-connected criminal]] calls, revealing he's holding the kid hostage to demand a ransom for the child's life. If they ever found out, Mr. and Mrs. Foxworth would undoubtedly have the [[AdultFear same reaction]].
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* Imagine being Winston. You learn the child that the parents entrusted to your care while they're away had snuck out of the house and gone God knows where and why. Then some [[TheSociopath Mafia-connected criminal]] calls, revealing he's holding the kid hostage to demand a ransom for the child's life. If they ever found out, Mr. and Mrs. Foxworth would undoubtedly have the [[AdultFear same reaction]].reaction]].
* Fagin's timely arrival prevents Sykes from siccing his dogs on Oliver and the other dogs. However, if Sykes did snap his fingers, would Roscoe and [=DeSoto=] have attacked Jenny too, even though Sykes still wanted the ransom for her? Or was Sykes going to waste her for trying to escape?
* Fagin's timely arrival prevents Sykes from siccing his dogs on Oliver and the other dogs. However, if Sykes did snap his fingers, would Roscoe and [=DeSoto=] have attacked Jenny too, even though Sykes still wanted the ransom for her? Or was Sykes going to waste her for trying to escape?
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* What happens to Fagin and his crew in the end, now that they no longer have to worry about Sykes? Despite saving Jenny's life and taking down a ruthless criminal, do they return to living on the streets and barely getting by?
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* What happens to Fagin and his crew in the end, now that they no longer have to worry about Sykes? Despite saving Jenny's life and taking down a ruthless criminal, do they return to living on the streets and barely getting by?by?
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* When considering that Dodger is named after Jack "Artful Dodger" Dawkins from Oliver Twist and that he's a terrier in the film, you'll realize that he's a Jack Russel Terrier.
* Why are the Dobermans quickly subdued with a blanket? One way to test a dog's intelligence is to throw a blanket over its head and see how long it takes for them to shake it off. Considering Roscoe and [=DeSoto=] are considered unintelligent, it makes sense that they wouldn't try to shake the blanket off of them.
** At first, this brings up some FridgeLogic: Dobermans are an intelligent breed of dogs. But then, it dawns on you: Dobermans are supposed to be gentle too. The only problem is that it all depends on how they're raised. And don't forget, [[BigBad Sykes]] is their [[VillainBall master]]; if he can teach Roscoe and [=DeSoto=] to be sadistic, even for dogs, then he possibly neglected to exercise their minds (aside from being thugs).
* Why are the Dobermans quickly subdued with a blanket? One way to test a dog's intelligence is to throw a blanket over its head and see how long it takes for them to shake it off. Considering Roscoe and [=DeSoto=] are considered unintelligent, it makes sense that they wouldn't try to shake the blanket off of them.
** At first, this brings up some FridgeLogic: Dobermans are an intelligent breed of dogs. But then, it dawns on you: Dobermans are supposed to be gentle too. The only problem is that it all depends on how they're raised. And don't forget, [[BigBad Sykes]] is their [[VillainBall master]]; if he can teach Roscoe and [=DeSoto=] to be sadistic, even for dogs, then he possibly neglected to exercise their minds (aside from being thugs).
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* When considering that Dodger is named after Jack "Artful Dodger" Dawkins from Oliver Twist and that he's a terrier in the film, you'll realize that he's a Jack Russel Terrier.
* Why are the Dobermans quickly subdued with a blanket? One way to test a dog's intelligence is to throw a blanket over its head and see how long it takes for them to shake it off. Considering Roscoe and [=DeSoto=] are consideredunintelligent, dense, it makes sense that they wouldn't try to shake the blanket off of them.themselves.
** At first, this brings up some FridgeLogic: Dobermans are an intelligentbreed of dogs.dog breed. But then, it dawns on you: Dobermans are supposed to be gentle too. The only problem is that it all depends on how they're raised. And don't forget, [[BigBad Sykes]] is their [[VillainBall master]]; if he can teach Roscoe and [=DeSoto=] to be sadistic, even for dogs, then he possibly neglected to exercise their minds (aside from being thugs).
* Why are the Dobermans quickly subdued with a blanket? One way to test a dog's intelligence is to throw a blanket over its head and see how long it takes for them to shake it off. Considering Roscoe and [=DeSoto=] are considered
** At first, this brings up some FridgeLogic: Dobermans are an intelligent
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** What's more, that ironing board [[RuleOfSymbolism only drops to the level he's comfortable with.]] But later, Fagin seems uneasy and nervous when [[UpToEleven he takes the elevator down to Sykes' office]].
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** This leads to the FridgeHorror that Fagin wasn't ''always'' so poor, and he got to where he is today because he borrowed money from Sykes.
** Another primary reason: [[TruthInTelevision New York City's cost of living is among the highest of all cities in the U.S., and the insurance rates are also accordingly expensive.]] To be poor in a city like the Big Apple is a death sentence, explaining why Fagin lives in a rundown boathouse and is forced to go to a LoanShark to alleviate his financial problems.
* For the first half of the movie, nobody ever refers to Oliver by name, usually just calling him "the kid." But there's a perfect reason for that: Jenny hasn't named him yet; he doesn't have a name at that point in the movie!
** Another primary reason: [[TruthInTelevision New York City's cost of living is among the highest of all cities in the U.S., and the insurance rates are also accordingly expensive.]] To be poor in a city like the Big Apple is a death sentence, explaining why Fagin lives in a rundown boathouse and is forced to go to a LoanShark to alleviate his financial problems.
* For the first half of the movie, nobody ever refers to Oliver by name, usually just calling him "the kid." But there's a perfect reason for that: Jenny hasn't named him yet; he doesn't have a name at that point in the movie!
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** This It leads to the FridgeHorror that Fagin wasn't ''always'' so poor, and he got to where he is today his current state because he borrowed money from Sykes.
** Another primary reason: [[TruthInTelevision New York City's cost of living is among the highest of all cities in the U.S., and the insurance rates are also accordingly expensive.]]To be Being poor in a city like the Big Apple is a death sentence, explaining why Fagin lives in a rundown boathouse and is boathouse, forced to go to a LoanShark to alleviate his financial problems.
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** Another primary reason: [[TruthInTelevision New York City's cost of living is among the highest of all cities in the U.S., and the insurance rates are also accordingly expensive.]]
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** Roscoe, being the more level-headed of the two, tried to use logical survival by hanging onto Dodger's cloth until Dodger slipped it off.
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* Georgette's breaking of a nail is treated as wimpy and a sign of her being spoilt and pampered. Actually, IBrokeANail is a discredited trope - but it's ''especially'' justified why she would scream when it's broken - when a dog breaks a nail? It's ''bloody''. There is a reason that when dogs' nails are cut, they are filed off.
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* The film treats Georgette's breaking of a nail is treated as wimpy and a sign of her being spoilt and pampered. Actually, IBrokeANail is a discredited trope - but it's ''especially'' justified why she would scream when it's broken - when a dog breaks a nail? It's ''bloody''. There is a reason that when dogs' nails are cut, they are filed off.
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* Imagine being Winston. You learn the child that the parents entrusted to your care while they're away had snuck out of the house and gone God knows where and why. Then some [[TheSociopath Mafia-connected criminal]] calls, revealing he's holding the kid hostage to demand a ransom for the child's life. Mr. and Mrs. Foxworth would undoubtedly have the [[AdultFear same reaction]] if they ever found out.
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* Imagine being Winston. You learn the child that the parents entrusted to your care while they're away had snuck out of the house and gone God knows where and why. Then some [[TheSociopath Mafia-connected criminal]] calls, revealing he's holding the kid hostage to demand a ransom for the child's life. If they ever found out, Mr. and Mrs. Foxworth would undoubtedly have the [[AdultFear same reaction]] if they ever found out.reaction]].
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* When taking into account that Dodger is named after Jack "Artful Dodger" Dawkins from Oliver Twist and that he's a terrier in the film, you'll realize that he's a Jack Russel Terrier.
* Why are the Dobermans easily subdued with a blanket? One way to test a dog's intelligence is to throw a blanket over their head and see how long it takes for them to shake it off. Considering Roscoe and [=DeSoto=] are considered unintelligent, it makes sense that they wouldn't try to shake the blanket off of them.
** At first, this brings up some FridgeLogic: Dobermans are an intelligent breed of dogs. But then, it dawns on you: Dobermans are supposed to be gentle too. The only problem is, that all depends on how they're brought up. And don't forget, [[BigBad Sykes]] is their [[VillainBall master]]. If he can bring up Roscoe and [=DeSoto=] to be sadistic, even for dogs, then it's possible he neglected to exercise their minds (aside from being thugs).
* It just came to me: Old Louie is the movie's equivalent of the food server from the book who was outraged when Oliver pleaded "Please sir, may I have some more?"
* When Fagin is writing the ransom note, the ironing board buckles under his weight as [[RuleofSymbolism he sinks lower and lower.]]
** What's more, that ironing board [[RuleOfSymbolism only sinks to the level he's comfortable with.]] But later, Fagin seems uneasy and nervous when [[UpToEleven he takes the elevator down to Sykes' office]].
* It may seem a bit curious why Sykes would lend so much money to a homeless man like Fagin, until you consider the incredibly high interest rates loan sharks are notorious for, which very well may be the reason Fagin is so poor.
* When taking into account that Dodger is named after Jack "Artful Dodger" Dawkins from Oliver Twist and that he's a terrier in the film, you'll realize that he's a Jack Russel Terrier.
* Why are the Dobermans easily subdued with a blanket? One way to test a dog's intelligence is to throw a blanket over their head and see how long it takes for them to shake it off. Considering Roscoe and [=DeSoto=] are considered unintelligent, it makes sense that they wouldn't try to shake the blanket off of them.
** At first, this brings up some FridgeLogic: Dobermans are an intelligent breed of dogs. But then, it dawns on you: Dobermans are supposed to be gentle too. The only problem is, that all depends on how they're brought up. And don't forget, [[BigBad Sykes]] is their [[VillainBall master]]. If he can bring up Roscoe and [=DeSoto=] to be sadistic, even for dogs, then it's possible he neglected to exercise their minds (aside from being thugs).
* It just came to me: Old Louie is the movie's equivalent of the food server from the book who was outraged when Oliver pleaded "Please sir, may I have some more?"
* When Fagin is writing the ransom note, the ironing board buckles under his weight as [[RuleofSymbolism he sinks lower and lower.]]
** What's more, that ironing board [[RuleOfSymbolism only sinks to the level he's comfortable with.]] But later, Fagin seems uneasy and nervous when [[UpToEleven he takes the elevator down to Sykes' office]].
* It may seem a bit curious why Sykes would lend so much money to a homeless man like Fagin, until you consider the incredibly high interest rates loan sharks are notorious for, which very well may be the reason Fagin is so poor.
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* Why are the Dobermans
** At first, this brings up some FridgeLogic: Dobermans are an intelligent breed of dogs. But then, it dawns on you: Dobermans are supposed to be gentle too. The only problem
* It just came to me: Old Louie is the movie's equivalent of the food server from the
* When Fagin
** What's more, that ironing board [[RuleOfSymbolism only
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** Another major reason: [[TruthInTelevision New York City's cost of living is among the highest of all cities in the U.S., and the insurance rates are also accordingly expensive.]] To be poor in a city like the Big Apple is a death sentence, which is why Fagin lives in a rundown boathouse and is forced to go to a LoanShark to try to alleviate his financial problems.
* For the first half of the movie, nobody ever refers to Oliver by name, usually just calling him "the kid". But there's a very good reason for that: Jenny hasn't named him yet. He literally doesn't have a name at that point of the movie!
* A small thing: Tito and Francis' shared EstablishingCharacterMoment works better when you pay attention to what Francis is watching. The line "tomorrow, tomorrow and tomorrow creeps" is from the play Macbeth. Tito is complaining about the show being boring and wants to watch something with action. Macbeth is actually filled with action, starting out with a plan to commit regicide. Francis is a dog of culture and Tito tends to pay so little attention to details that it ends up costing him something.
* During the climatic chase, the way Roscoe and [=DeSoto=] die each matches with their personalities:
** Roscoe, being the more level headed of the two, tried to use logical survival by hanging onto Dodger's cloth until Dodger slipped it off.
** [=DeSoto=], the sadistic of the two, was torturing Dodger instead of outright killing him (holding his paw on Dodger's neck), and this is what caused his death as well. Ironically, by the exact same cat he had picked on and threatened at the start of the film.
* For the first half of the movie, nobody ever refers to Oliver by name, usually just calling him "the kid". But there's a very good reason for that: Jenny hasn't named him yet. He literally doesn't have a name at that point of the movie!
* A small thing: Tito and Francis' shared EstablishingCharacterMoment works better when you pay attention to what Francis is watching. The line "tomorrow, tomorrow and tomorrow creeps" is from the play Macbeth. Tito is complaining about the show being boring and wants to watch something with action. Macbeth is actually filled with action, starting out with a plan to commit regicide. Francis is a dog of culture and Tito tends to pay so little attention to details that it ends up costing him something.
* During the climatic chase, the way Roscoe and [=DeSoto=] die each matches with their personalities:
** Roscoe, being the more level headed of the two, tried to use logical survival by hanging onto Dodger's cloth until Dodger slipped it off.
** [=DeSoto=], the sadistic of the two, was torturing Dodger instead of outright killing him (holding his paw on Dodger's neck), and this is what caused his death as well. Ironically, by the exact same cat he had picked on and threatened at the start of the film.
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** Another major primary reason: [[TruthInTelevision New York City's cost of living is among the highest of all cities in the U.S., and the insurance rates are also accordingly expensive.]] To be poor in a city like the Big Apple is a death sentence, which is explaining why Fagin lives in a rundown boathouse and is forced to go to a LoanShark to try to alleviate his financial problems.
* For the first half of the movie, nobody ever refers to Oliver by name, usually just calling him "thekid". kid." But there's a very good perfect reason for that: Jenny hasn't named him yet. He literally yet; he doesn't have a name at that point of in the movie!
* A small thing: Tito andFrancis' Francis's shared EstablishingCharacterMoment works better when you pay attention to notice what Francis is watching. The line "tomorrow, tomorrow tomorrow, and tomorrow creeps" is from the play Macbeth. Tito is complaining about the show being boring and wants to watch something with action. Macbeth is actually filled with action, starting out with a plan to commit regicide. Francis is a dog of culture cultured dog, and Tito tends to pay so little attention to details that it ends up costing costs him something.
* During theclimatic climactic subway chase, the way Roscoe and [=DeSoto=] die each matches with their personalities:
** Roscoe, being the morelevel headed level-headed of the two, tried to use logical survival by hanging onto Dodger's cloth until Dodger slipped it off.
** [=DeSoto=], the sadistic of the two, was torturing Dodger instead of outright killing him (holding his paw on Dodger's neck),and this is what which caused his death as well. Ironically, by the exact same cat he had picked on and threatened at the film's start of the film.ironically.
* For the first half of the movie, nobody ever refers to Oliver by name, usually just calling him "the
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* We see that Sykes has a gun, so why does he use attack dogs? Body disposal. If there's nothing left but a few gnawed bones there's a lot less for the police to go on, if they investigate at all.
** He snaps his fingers a second time to call the dogs off. Them ripping into you is another form of persuasion.
* When Sykes sics his dogs on Fagin and Dodger, he nonchalantly goes back to building his model ship like nothing's happening. He's likely done this kind of thing so many times he's numb to the violence.
* While it's hard to tell if it's brought up in the film, older viewers will get chills when they realize that Sykes has a multitude of ways to make money off of Jenny if her parents don't pay up and none of them would end well for her. Doesn't help that she's extremely adorable either.
* We see that Sykes has a gun, so why does he use attack dogs? Body disposal. If there's nothing left but a few gnawed bones there's a lot less for the police to go on, if they investigate at all.
** He snaps his fingers a second time to call the dogs off. Them ripping into you is another form of persuasion.
* When Sykes sics his dogs on Fagin and Dodger, he nonchalantly goes back to building his model ship like nothing's happening. He's likely done this kind of thing so many times he's numb to the violence.
* While it's hard to tell if it's brought up in the film, older viewers will get chills when they realize that Sykes has a multitude of ways to make money off of Jenny if her parents don't pay up and none of them would end well for her. Doesn't help that she's extremely adorable either.
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* We see that Sykes has a gun, so why does he use attack dogs? Body disposal. If there's nothing left but a few gnawed
** He snaps his fingers a second time to call
* When Sykes sics his dogs on Fagin and Dodger, he
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* Imagine being Winston. You learn the child that the parents entrusted to your care while they're away had snuck out of the house and gone God knows where and why. Then some [[TheSociopath Mafia-connected criminal]] calls, revealing he's holding the kid hostage to demand a ransom for the child's life. Mr. and Mrs. Foxworth would undoubtedly have the [[AdultFear same reaction]] if they ever found out.
* Even if Jenny's parents paid the ransom, could one even trust Sykes to keep his word and release Jenny? Despite having many possible chances, Fagin hadn't gone to the authorities about Sykes, clearly out of fear for his life. However, there's a definite high chance that a scared child would blab about Sykes the first chance they got. Plus, Jenny saw his face and base of operations; someone cold and calculating like Sykes surely wouldn't risk letting a potential loose end like Jenny go, even if she swore not to talk.
* What happens to Fagin and his crew in the end, now that they no longer have to worry about Sykes? Despite saving Jenny's life and taking down a ruthless criminal, do they return to living on the streets and barely getting by?
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* During the climatic chase, the way Roscoe and DeSoto [=DeSoto=] die each matches with their personalities:
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** DeSoto, the sadistic of the two, was torturing Dodger instead of outright killing him (holding his paw on Dodger's neck), and this is what caused his death as well. Ironically, by the exact same cat he had picked on and threatened at the start of the film.
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** DeSoto, [=DeSoto=], the sadistic of the two, was torturing Dodger instead of outright killing him (holding his paw on Dodger's neck), and this is what caused his death as well. Ironically, by the exact same cat he had picked on and threatened at the start of the film.
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* Georgette's breaking of a nail is treated as wimpy and a sign of her being spoilt and pampered. Actually, IBrokeANail is a discredited trope - but it's ''especially'' justified why she would scream when it's broken - when a dog breaks a nail? It's ''bloody''. There is a reason that when dogs' nails are cut, they are filed off.
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* During the climatic chase, the way Roscoe and DeSoto die each matches with their personalities:
** Roscoe, being the more level headed of the two, tried to use logical survival by hanging onto Dodger's cloth until Dodger slipped it off.
** DeSoto, the sadistic of the two, was torturing Dodger instead of outright killing him (holding his paw on Dodger's neck), and this is what caused his death as well. Ironically, by the exact same cat he had picked on and threatened at the start of the film.
** Roscoe, being the more level headed of the two, tried to use logical survival by hanging onto Dodger's cloth until Dodger slipped it off.
** DeSoto, the sadistic of the two, was torturing Dodger instead of outright killing him (holding his paw on Dodger's neck), and this is what caused his death as well. Ironically, by the exact same cat he had picked on and threatened at the start of the film.
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* A small thing: Tito and Francis' shared EstablishingCharacterMoment works better when you pay attention to what Francis is watching. The line "tomorrow, tomorrow and tomorrow creeps" is from the play Shakespear/Macbeth. Tito is complaining about the show being boring and wants to watch something with action. Macbeth is actually filled with action, starting out with a plan to commit regicide. Francis is a dog of culture and Tito tends to pay so little attention to details that it ends up costing him something.
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* A small thing: Tito and Francis' shared EstablishingCharacterMoment works better when you pay attention to what Francis is watching. The line "tomorrow, tomorrow and tomorrow creeps" is from the play Shakespear/Macbeth.Macbeth. Tito is complaining about the show being boring and wants to watch something with action. Macbeth is actually filled with action, starting out with a plan to commit regicide. Francis is a dog of culture and Tito tends to pay so little attention to details that it ends up costing him something.
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* A small thing: Tito and Francis' shared EstablishingCharacterMoment works better when you pay attention to what Francis is watching. The line "tomorrow, tomorrow and tomorrow creeps" is from the play Theatre/Macbeth. Tito is complaining about the show being boring and wants to watch something with action. Macbeth is actually filled with action, starting out with a plan to commit regicide. Francis is a dog of culture and Tito tends to pay so little attention to details that it ends up costing him something.
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* A small thing: Tito and Francis' shared EstablishingCharacterMoment works better when you pay attention to what Francis is watching. The line "tomorrow, tomorrow and tomorrow creeps" is from the play Theatre/Macbeth.Shakespear/Macbeth. Tito is complaining about the show being boring and wants to watch something with action. Macbeth is actually filled with action, starting out with a plan to commit regicide. Francis is a dog of culture and Tito tends to pay so little attention to details that it ends up costing him something.
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* A small thing, during Tito and Francis' shared establishing character moment works better when you pay attention to what Francis is watching. The line "tomorrow, tomorrow and tomorrow creeps" is from the play Theature/Macbeth. Tito is complaining about the show being boring and wants something with action. Macbeth is actually filled with action, starting out with a plan to kill a king and take his place on the throne. Francis is a dog of culture and Tito tends to pay so little attention to details that it ends up costing him something.
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* A small thing, during thing: Tito and Francis' shared establishing character moment EstablishingCharacterMoment works better when you pay attention to what Francis is watching. The line "tomorrow, tomorrow and tomorrow creeps" is from the play Theature/Macbeth. Theatre/Macbeth. Tito is complaining about the show being boring and wants to watch something with action. Macbeth is actually filled with action, starting out with a plan to kill a king and take his place on the throne.commit regicide. Francis is a dog of culture and Tito tends to pay so little attention to details that it ends up costing him something.
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* A small thing, during Tito and Francis' shared establishing character moment works better when you pay attention to what Francis is watching. The line "tomorrow, tomorrow and tomorrow creeps" is from the play Theature/Macbeth. Tito is complaining about the show being boring and wants something with action. Macbeth is actually filled with action, starting out with a plan to kill a king and take his place on the throne. Francis is a dog of culture and Tito tends to pay so little attention to details that it ends up costing him something.
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** Another major reason: [[TruthInTelevision New York City's cost of living is among the highest of all cities in the U.S., and the insurance rates are also accordingly expensive.]] To be poor in a city like the Big Apple is a death sentence, which is why Fagin lives in a rundown boathouse and is forced to go to a LoanShark to try to alleviate his financial problems.
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* It just came to me: Old Luey is the movie's equivalent of the food server from the book who was outraged when Oliver pleaded "Please sir, may I have some more?"
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* It just came to me: Old Luey Louie is the movie's equivalent of the food server from the book who was outraged when Oliver pleaded "Please sir, may I have some more?"
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* For the first half of the movie, nobody ever refers to Oliver by name, usually just calling him "the kid". But there's a very good reason for that: Jenny hasn't named him yet. He literally doesn't have a name at that point of the movie!
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** This leads to the FridgeHorror that Fagin wasn't ''always'' so poor, and he got to where he is today because he borrowed money from Sykes.
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* Why are the Dobermans easily subdued with a blanket? One way to test a dog's intelligence is to throw a blanket over their head ands how long it takes for them to shake it off. Considering Roscoe and [=DeSoto=] are considered unintelligent, it makes sense that they wouldn't try to shake the blanket off of them.
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* Why are the Dobermans easily subdued with a blanket? One way to test a dog's intelligence is to throw a blanket over their head ands and see how long it takes for them to shake it off. Considering Roscoe and [=DeSoto=] are considered unintelligent, it makes sense that they wouldn't try to shake the blanket off of them.
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* It may seem a bit curious why Sykes would lend so much money to a homeless man like Fagin, until you consider the incredibly high interest rates loan sharks are notorious for, which very well may be the reason Fagin is so poor.
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* Why are the Dobermans easily subdued with a blanket? One way to test a dog's intelligence is to throw a blanket over their head ands how long it takes for them to shake it off. Considering Roscoe and DeSoto are considered unintelligent, it makes sense that they wouldn't try to shake the blanket off of them.
** At first, this brings up some FridgeLogic: Dobermans are an intelligent breed of dogs. But then, it dawns on you: Dobermans are supposed to be gentle too. The only problem is, that all depends on how they're brought up. And don't forget, [[BigBad Sykes]] is their [[VillainBall master]]. If he can bring up Roscoe and Desoto to be sadistic, even for dogs, then it's possible he neglected to exercise their minds (aside from being thugs).
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** At first, this brings up some FridgeLogic: Dobermans are an intelligent breed of dogs. But then, it dawns on you: Dobermans are supposed to be gentle too. The only problem is, that all depends on how they're brought up. And don't forget, [[BigBad Sykes]] is their [[VillainBall master]]. If he can bring up Roscoe and
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* When Sykes sics his dogs on Fagin and Dodger, he nonchalantly goes back to building his model ship like nothing's happening. He's likely done this kind of thing so many times he's numb to the violence.
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* When Sykes sics his dogs on Fagin and Dodger, he nonchalantly goes back to building his model ship like nothing's happening. He's likely done this kind of thing so many times he's numb to the violence.violence.
* While it's hard to tell if it's brought up in the film, older viewers will get chills when they realize that Sykes has a multitude of ways to make money off of Jenny if her parents don't pay up and none of them would end well for her. Doesn't help that she's extremely adorable either.
* While it's hard to tell if it's brought up in the film, older viewers will get chills when they realize that Sykes has a multitude of ways to make money off of Jenny if her parents don't pay up and none of them would end well for her. Doesn't help that she's extremely adorable either.
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** What's more, that ironing board [[RuleOfSymbolism only sinks to the level he's comfortable with.]] But later, Fagin seems uncomfortable and nervous when [[UpToEleven he takes the elevator down to Sykes' office]].
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** What's more, that ironing board [[RuleOfSymbolism only sinks to the level he's comfortable with.]] But later, Fagin seems uncomfortable uneasy and nervous when [[UpToEleven he takes the elevator down to Sykes' office]].
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** What's more, that ironing board [[RuleOfSymbolism only sinks to the level he's comfortable with.]] But later, Fagin seems uncomfortable and nervous when [[UpToEleven he takes the elevator down to Sykes' office]].
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* When Fagin is writing the ransom note, the ironing board buckles under his weight as [[RuleofSymbolism he sinks lower and lower.]]
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* It just came to me: Old Loewy is the movie's equivalent of the food server from the book who was outraged when Oliver pleaded "Please sir, may I have some more?"
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* It just came to me: Old Loewy Luey is the movie's equivalent of the food server from the book who was outraged when Oliver pleaded "Please sir, may I have some more?"
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** At first, this brings up some FridgeLogic: Dobermans are an intelligent breed of dogs. But then, it dawns on you: Dobermans are supposed to be gentle too. The only problem is, that all depends on how they're brought up. And don't forget, [[BigBad Sykes]] is their [[VillainBall master]]. If he can bring up Roscoe and Desoto to be sadistic, even for dogs, then it's possible he neglected to exercise their minds (aside from being thugs).
* It just came to me: Old Loewy is the movie's equivalent of the food server from the book who was outraged when Oliver pleaded "Please sir, may I have some more?"
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* Why are the Dobermans easily subdued with a blanket? One way to test a dog's intelligence is to throw a blanket over their head ands how long it takes for them to shake it off. Considering Roscoe and DeSoto are considered unintelligent, it makes sense that they wouldn't try to shake the blanket off of them.
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** He snaps his fingers a second time to call the dogs off. Them ripping into you is another form of persuasion.
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** He snaps his fingers a second time to call the dogs off. Them ripping into you is another form of persuasion.persuasion.
* When Sykes sics his dogs on Fagin and Dodger, he nonchalantly goes back to building his model ship like nothing's happening. He's likely done this kind of thing so many times he's numb to the violence.
* When Sykes sics his dogs on Fagin and Dodger, he nonchalantly goes back to building his model ship like nothing's happening. He's likely done this kind of thing so many times he's numb to the violence.
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* We see that Sykes has a gun, so why does he use attack dogs? Body disposal. If there's nothing left but a few gnawed bones there's a lot less for the police to go on, if they investigate at all.
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* We see that Sykes has a gun, so why does he use attack dogs? Body disposal. If there's nothing left but a few gnawed bones there's a lot less for the police to go on, if they investigate at all.all.
** He snaps his fingers a second time to call the dogs off. Them ripping into you is another form of persuasion.
** He snaps his fingers a second time to call the dogs off. Them ripping into you is another form of persuasion.
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* When taking into account that Dodger is named after Jack "Artful Dodger" Dawkins from Oliver Twist and that he's a terrier in the film, you'll realize that he's a Jack Russel Terrier.
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* We see that Sykes has a gun, so why does he use attack dogs? Body disposal. If there's nothing left but a few gnawed bones there's a lot less for the police to go on, if they investigate at all.
* When taking into account that Dodger is named after Jack "Artful Dodger" Dawkins from Oliver Twist and that he's a terrier in the film, you'll realize that he's a Jack Russel Terrier.
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* We see that Sykes has a gun, so why does he use attack dogs? Body disposal. If there's nothing left but a few gnawed bones there's a lot less for the police to go on, if they investigate at all.