* Frank, in turn, [[JerkassHasAPoint pointing out the major flaw in Matt's methods]], [[CardboardPrison the simple fact that they allow scum to keep hurting innocents where Frank's ways stop them for good.]] In fact, he has a comeback to everything Matt says, (albeit some of it just being mockery) up until the point where DD ultimately finds him beyond reasoning, and calls him insane. [[BerserkButton Frank, at this point is equally fed up with him,]] and [[TalkToTheFist takes him out with a]] WrenchWhack.
[''Matt beats him to unconsciousness'']
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