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Working Title: Revenge Of The Buttmonkey: From YKTTW
Bobby G: Removed the following example because it doesn't appear to be an example of this trope (which is about Face Heel Turns caused by a character's status as the Butt-Monkey or the Chew Toy):
- Arguably, at the end of the final case of every Phoenix Wright game, when Phoenix has successfully turned everything around and proven his client innocent, he gets one of these moments towards the prosecutor of the day, along with his smug smile. However, the topper has to be Matt Engarde, who thought he had successfully cornered the brilliant defense attorney, only to be afraid for his life by the time Phoenix is done with him. Cue the big smiles and condescending talk from Phoenix.
Bobby G: Removed the following natter:
- You do realize that there are all sorts of problems with putting tanks in squads, right? Not only is it uber expensive leaving you with very little room for troops for getting objectives, they're very suspectible to mass casualties from assault and meltas kill them on a 3 due to vehicle squad rules. Vet srgts were ALWAYS Ld 8 (they now just get that extra point for free). The common guardsman needed those cost reductions. Guardsmen in terms of power were vastly inferior to Ork boys. Until the codex, guardsmen cost 6 points which with ork boyz (same cost) gets you mini Khorne Berserkers (furious charge and depending on size of squad fearless). Guard are not even top tier (Orks, Chaos, and Eldar), they're high tier (with Marines and Chaos Demons).
