This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
Gus: renamed from Antipode Attack
BT The P: About the THRUSH example: how does a racist agenda make them automatically right-wing? There's certainly nothing to stop Communists from being racists, is there? (I mean, after all, this is an evil organization, so they're opposed to freedom in either case.)
Looney Toons: While you are correct — Soviet communism was certainly anti-semitic — racism is traditionally seen as a vice of conservatives and reactionaries mainly because it was (and is), in the United States. Almost all the vocal and visible opponents to Civil Rights legislation, both when it was being crafted and passed in the 1960s and much more recently when its expirations were being extended, were conservatives and reactionaries. Enfranchising the disenfranchised automatically challenges the status quo and threatens power structures who were less than friendly to them; attempts to do so thus will naturally be fought by those with a vested and/or personal interest in maintaining the status quo, which is to say again, conservatives and reactionaries — who by the very definition of their political philosophies want to resist, control or eliminate social/political change. And combatting institutionalized racism is always a major change socially and politically.
BT The P: All true. Someone's already clarified the entry. My main point is that there's nothing inherently contradictory in having THRUSH act like Communist agents, but still have a thoroughly genocidal racist agenda, as the two are not mutually exclusive. It's certainly possible to bring power to the working people, and classify a chunk of the working class out of your definition of "people"; cuts down on bookkeeping. Capitalists, socialists, libertarians, totalitarians, librarians, all are capable of having a racial agenda, especially if they're cast as a shadowy bad-guy organization on a spy show; if their philosophies were sensible they wouldn't be evil, and racism is the least sensible philosophy you can give someone.
Phartman: Conservative or Liberal: no one has a monopoly on bigotry. The end.
- In ReBoot, when a Knight Templar attempt to purge a dangerous infection by destroying Mainframe goes awry, the heroes team up with viruses to ensure mutual survival against The Legions of Hell.
Nexus: Removed this because: 1. It's already on the page and described in better detail. 2. It was in the Live Action TV section.
Doug S. Machina:
- Kim Possible's "really final" finale involved Kim and Ron teaming up with Shego and Dr. Drakken to stop an alien invasion. Drakken ended up getting most of the credit. There's a Lampshade Hanging on the thing, as quoted at the top of the page.
What quote?
Seven Seals: The quote that got deleted because the Arbitrary Quote Limit was reached, probably. It's up to whoever enforces it to decide what quotes they want to keep, and sometimes this leaves things dangling. In this case, the quote was properly moved to the example itself.
