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This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.


Working Title: Self-Made Orphan: From YKTTW

Mo G: Does it only count if he/she kills BOTH parents? If yes, this example doesn't apply:

  • Ben killed his father in Lost.

Jordan}}: I think it would count if it's meant as a sign of utter sociopathy. That reminds me, I'm not sure if the Harry Potter examples count, since in the first two cases, the villains doing it had rational reasons for their behavior whereas this trope involves motiveless malice. The third case is accidental which makes it count less. I mention this partially because there are likely cases where a parent is evil themselves and a heroic character might kill them in without invoking this trope.

Puck: I love the Importance of Being Earnest quote but it isn't really relevant and, since we already have a better page quote from Hogfather, I think we should get rid of the Earnest one.


Also Sprach Odin: I realise I should have asked this before I added Raven to the list, but there were already a number of examples where the children are not villains (or at least not clear-cut villains). Furthermore, the description very clearly says "murder", but does self-defence count as murder, and doesn't preventing (or reversing) The End of the World as We Know It count as self-defence?

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