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This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.


As a conservative, fundamentalist Christian, I want to apologize for the hysteria that has been caused by very vocal but small groups of Christians who end up causing things like this trope's existence. They are by far the exception rather than the rule, but it's just that they're easier to spot because they're so loud. I think loudness may have a lot to do with stereotypes. It may also be why liberals may seem like the majority, not becase they're numerous, but because they're so freaking loud.

  • To the above, thank you for showing us that they can't be all bad.

  • This troper has always wondered whether, if he went around killing people while eating apples, apples would be banned.

  • The part I really love is that people always claim that Harry Potter is teaching youth Satanism and magic, since as a bed time story while I was a small child, my parents - who are, in this troper's opinion, very Christian in actions - read me the earlier books.


Caswin: "While it is apparently true that school-shooters are quite likely to listen to violent music and watch violent movies, it doesn't prove a thing. If that were so, everyone who ever listened to heavy metal music would go out and kill." Does anyone else hear a false dichotomy here?

Caswin: Cut the second line. I don't suppose this is a good place for a discussion on the effects of glorifying violence specifically in the hands of the player (where it would otherwise be the "viewer") on empathy for others?

MemorizePi: I sorted most of it into categories, but this example didn't fit anywhere. Didn't want to delete it.

  • Ironically, at least one literal Murder Simulator exists. "JFK: Reloaded" is a simulation of Lee Harvey Oswald's assassination of President Kennedy, in which the player attempts to duplicate the actual assassination as closely as possible. According to the creators, they wrote and distributed the software to see if the standard explanation of the assassination was plausible.
    • Apparently it was, with one person winning the real-life competition by getting almost 800 out of 1000 points and taking home the prize money of $10,000.

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