This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
Slacker Spice: Removed responses to the "Once More, with Feeling" example. Xander did intentionally summon Sweet, but he didn't know about the burning and dying that went with the singing and dancing. Also - covering for what? Stealing the necklace? Summoning Sweet? If it's the latter, why would she do it?
Kilyle: So this doesn't apply to the same actions taken without subterfuge? Which trope does apply, then? I'm thinking about Wesley from Angel taking Angel's son because he thought he was doing the right thing. Which trope would that go under?
Gareth: I thought of that example myself. I think Finding Judas requires some mystery as to who's responsible. If you see it from the well-meaning schemer's point of view from the start, as in that Angel arc, it's something else. Similar to Knight Templar, perhaps?
Puck: Moving the Fullmetal Alchemist example since there is nothing pure about that traitor's motives.
