Uh, yeah. That entry can work for Ho Yay in that it can certainly be (mis)interpreted as them talking about Erik, but anyone without Shipping Goggles can tell that he's clearly talking about Mystique. She's the one "off the path" in this conversation. Erik is the means to get on the path.
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Somebody changed the "holds hands" to "shakes hands" again. I'm too tired to argue about it at the moment, but I've reverted it with a note to bring it up here. I suppose the best place to start would be for someone to find a clip of that scene so we're not operating off memory.
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This may come as a shock, as I told you, BUT no one ever really cares about posting things here. I've had several different conversations started here and no one replied.
BUT, if you really want to play this game, there is a massive difference in how that scene is present and I'm more than allowed to change it to that. Again, I ask you, since you won't answer anywhere but here, why? Why does it matter so much that they're holding hands or shaking hands? The first time I did it I mentioned it without deleting the opinion that it still counts as Ho Yay. It does, but by a technicality, especially since I've seen the movie twice now, they don't hold hands long enough for it to count as "holding hand as they're dying". It literally is a five second handshake. And only one of them is dying anyway so to say that "Xavier holding Magneto's hand as he dies" is incorrect.
The BIG difference is that I agree that that display of respect from old friends putting aside their difference can be seen as Ho Yay. The only one arguing the point is you. I only changed it to be more representative of the scene as was shown in the film. And in the film, not only does Magneto and Professor X let go almost immediately BUT every scene shown during that point Xavier has his hands on his wheel chair.
You know, I don't care what you're answer is, because you never actually bothered to ask, instead just wanting to make it public. So, now it's public. Happy? But you know what, I shouldn't have to explain my reasons TWICE.
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First: Rudeness is always unnecessary. Second: Unless other people weigh in or we get a clip, it's just two people arguing over their memories of a brief scene. Exchanging PM's would not be productive.
When was I ever rude? I asked you a simple question, not telling you that you were an idiot or stupid and I was absolutely right. I was assertive, and while I admit it can be mistaken as rudeness, they aren't necessarily the same thing. You refused to answer, there was no need to actually get other people involved. Yes, two people discussing a scene might not be productive, but considering you're the only one who seems to have had a problem, your argument that it NEEDED to be discussed has not been proven to be accurate as of this fourth post.
And I have a clip from a camrip. The reason I can't show you said clip is because the websites rules prohibit hotlinks on discussion pages and because I'm not interested in risking my youtube channel just to prove a point.
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Your last paragraph in your previous post certainly sounded rude. Also, linking a youtube video is certainly permitted.
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Again, not interested in posting any clip. If you want that clip, you'll either have to see the movie again or scour youtube or another site for it.
It was rude only because this was an unnecessary discussion. Yes, I changed some details, but only because it was incorrect information. It might be YMMV, but what I was changing was not the main content, but rather just a small detail. So, maybe that was rude, but rudeness begets rudeness and Discar was rude first by dragging this on further than needed.
Sticking hand into hornet's nest....
I wouldn't characterize it as either "holding hands" OR "a handshake." It's not holding hands because it's so brief, and it's not a handshake because there isn't any shaking of the hands. Magneto reaches for Xavier's hand, Xavier takes Magneto's hand but lets go when startled by an explosion. It reads to me like an unspoken request for support on Magneto's part, and a gesture of comfort on Xavier's. Certainly it indicates affection, though YMMV on whether it's of a romantic/sexual nature or not. If I can figure out how to phrase that about 1000 times more succinctly, I will make an edit, not because it's of cosmic importance, but because it bugs me when things aren't quite right.
Days of Future Past did not simply retcon the "bad" movies. Bryan Singer didn't just delete the movies he didn't have anything to do with.
Everything that takes place after the past section of Days of Future Past cannot remain unchanged because of the events in that movie. X-Men 1-3, X-Men Origins: Wolverine (from Vietnam onward)and The Wolverine are retconned. Versions of these events may have taken place, but not the ones that we see in the films.
Consider the changes that DOFP makes to the timeline: mutants are publicly exposed decades early. Magneto's war on mankind is kicked up a notch when he discovers that humans have created a weapon to kill mutants. Xavier has temporary mental contact with himself 50 years into the future. Bolivar Trask survives instead of dying in the original timeline. Mystique has turned away from a darker path and her relationship with Magneto has suffered from his attempt to kill her. Xavier, Beast, and Magneto are acquainted with Wolverine decades earlier than in the original timeline and they should remember him even if he does not remember them.
Wolverine and Sabertooth may have never made it to Vietnam (DOFP takes place in 1973, they were recruited in 1975.) That potentially changes their falling out completely and is potentially huge as it allows for the possibility that Wolverine never gets his adamantium-bonded skeleton (likely it just happened differently, but we have no assurances.)
The list of ripple effects could go on for pages, but this is probably a good enough sample to show that Bryan Singer basically just rebooted the entire modern X-Men era, and that several of the tropes referring to what got retconned are simply incorrect.
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They're talking about Erik, but specifically in the context of getting Mystique to listen and whether they can get through to Mystique. The line immediately before this one is Charles talking about how Mystique was changed by Erik. Mystique is the one they're concerned about. Erik is only the subject of the conversation because they need him to get to Mystique.
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