Western Animation Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2003 Discussion

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07:57:14 AM Jan 21st 2014
Would Leo's exhaustion/injury induced coma in 'Tales of Leo' count as either Deep Sleep or Angst Coma? Deep Sleep describes the trope as possibly induced on the sleeper due to exhaustion, illness, or recuperation, and we're left in no doubt that he's exhausted and wounded by the events of 'The Shredder Strikes Back', and Master Splinter's words in the episode in question. "Healing takes time, and Leonardo is recovering from more than just physical wounds. His spirit has also been grievously injured" In addition, Raphael gets frustrated that Leo 'isn't waking up', and his family move him to safety whilst he's out cold. However, it's strongly suggested that he's comatose rather than just asleep, since his family speak to him and eventually draw him out of his comatose state. In which case, would this count as 'Angst Coma', since he's collapsed into a comatose state following the physical and emotional beatdown he received in the previous episodes?

At the very end of the episode, after the 'danger is passed', as Master Splinter puts it, Leo is shown to enter a deep, restful sleep that allows his body to begin to recover. If the majority of the episode doesn't count, would this qualify as Deep Sleep?
06:03:30 PM Jan 11th 2012
mikey is big eater, karai is ojou and cody is fiction 500!!!!
01:09:20 PM Dec 19th 2011
edited by MagBas
  • Adaptation Distillation: Unlike the very loosely adapted 1987 TV show, this one is much more accurate to the original comic books, with everybody almost completely in character and with several episodes directly adapting issues of the Mirage comic series, complete with dialogue.

Adaptation distillation is not "faithful adaptation" but "simplified adaptation"
03:00:15 PM Apr 16th 2011
edited by DoKnowButchie
Removed or trimmed the following tropes for the following reasons.

  • Animesque: What exactly about does its storytelling take from anime, that it couldn't just as easily take from other sources? More direct and natural influences would be American comic books, which had been doing continuous storylines for decades and includes the series' source material; or American animated series such as Gargoyles which TMNT writers such as Marty Isenberg and Erik Luke worked on.
  • Bash Brothers: The turtles aren't this—they're a Sibling Team and the trope would properly go in the main Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles page.
  • Battle Royale With Cheese: Removed mention of "Wedding Bells and Bytes" because the episode has nothing to do with the trope—there's none of the "lots of characters are seemingly killed off aspect".
  • Big Bad Ensemble: Season three's narrative doesn't place Bishop as a threat comparable to the Shredder. His desire to protect Earth is presented as genuine, his appearances after his debut are one-shot stories, the turtles emnity towards him isn't presented as an overly emotional one, and the season's larger overall story doesn't hinge on his success or failure as it does the Shredder. Similarly, the Big Bad in season 4 isn't Bishop or Karai. They drive the story, but the story doesn't end, or even change significantly, if they're defeated. Note that if Karai had been the Big Bad, Leo sparing her in "Prodigal Son" wouldn't have made sense from a story point. If anyone's the big bad in that season, it's the hitherto unseen Demon Shredder.
  • Every Girl Is Cuter with Hair Decs: Hair styles are not hair decorations.
  • Sophisticated as Hell: Moved to character page.
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