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G1-Fizzy The Ghost of Paradise Estate Since: Dec, 2021
The Ghost of Paradise Estate
Jun 12th 2022 at 2:45:00 PM •••

I'm starting a cleanup effort for the first six games' pages, if you'd like to help or give feedback, please do so here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16550680110A22093300&page=1#1

Thank you.

IHOP Since: Apr, 2010
May 6th 2020 at 2:50:14 PM •••

Since the first teaser for Five Nights at Freddy's: Security Breach referred to the game as "9," that would suggest two of the games we currently classify as spin offs are actually considered by Scott Cawthon to FNaF 7 and 8. I would guess those are Help Wanted and Special Delivery since Help Wanted appears to directly lead into the events of Security Breach, and there's a good chance Special Delivery does as well with "Ness."

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lalaTKG Since: Jun, 2014
Sep 20th 2015 at 9:21:43 PM •••

I'm not so sure, but do we need a separate page for Five Nights as a whole to distinguish it from the first game? A lot of the stuff about the first game gets mixed up with general tropes and discussions about the series, and I was wondering if there was any way to separate them or leave them as is.

TropyFazbear Since: Aug, 2015
Aug 8th 2015 at 2:51:02 PM •••

I have an explanation for the Backstage Endoskeleton and Vonnie leaving it.

It is the backstage, meaning a bare endoskeleton might not be out of place.

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Gavitro Since: Dec, 2012
Apr 27th 2015 at 7:32:44 PM •••

Given that there are now four games in the series, wouldn't it be better to have a page dedicated to the franchise as a whole instead of having a page for each individual game?

I think that would be much more organized than it is now.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Apr 27th 2015 at 10:52:06 PM •••

Problem would be where to put it. Franchise.Five Nights At Freddys? No, this game hasn't branched out enough in other mediums to justify such a page.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Cannox Since: May, 2013
Jun 12th 2015 at 6:48:46 PM •••

Can we try renaming this page to "Five Nights At Freddy's 1" and then create a series wide page with the old name? I was the one who opened the Franchise page, sorry I didn't know the rules around it.

Ironically, I don't actually like coffee that much.
stuffedninja Since: Aug, 2013
pinkiestar Prince of This World's Future™ Since: Aug, 2013
Prince of This World's Future™
Mar 3rd 2015 at 7:20:32 AM •••

Alright, I'm gonna try to set up a timeline here for the games now that the third one's out. So, it starts out with Fredbear's Family Diner, that ends up being closed down. After a few years later they open up Freddy Fazbear's Pizza, with improved animatronics, and it's going well and good and whatever until this one guard that was fired comes over. He freaks out. He hides in a Golden Freddy suit and kills some kids, because he's a seriously messed up person like that. He is given a life sentence, but still manages to escape. 20 years after that incredible fiasco, another Freddy Fazbear's Pizza is opened, with animatronics more closely resembling the first designs. The dead children possessing the robots are still really angry, and can't tell the difference between the murderer and the new security guard(s), and tries to get revenge. However, one survives, but is fired. 30 Years after Freddy Fazbear's Pizza shuts down, a new attraction, called "Fazbear's Fright: The Horror Attraction" opens its doors, uncovering the mythos. The murderer comes back. The souls of the children are released from the suits, and PM/Purple Man discovers them. They chase him down until he finds an empty suit. He hides in it, cranking the animatronic parts away. It springs a trap out, and kills him once and for all. The member of the show playing the security guard is, well, a real security guard as well. No one has discovered the rotting body in the Springtrap suit, and think it is decor. PM, wanting revenge against the children, tries to kill everyone. He is a murderer after all. But he doesn't succeed. He starts a fire, and the building goes down in flames.

What happens after that? Who knows?

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pinkiestar Since: Aug, 2013
Mar 3rd 2015 at 7:22:30 AM •••

Ok, sorry for the timeline being a huge wall of text. I tried to space it out, but it didn't work for some reason. Maybe I just didn't press enter enough times or something.

"hey...your DROOLING..." -toby fox 2016
Taiyokun 120% Asian Since: Dec, 2011
120% Asian
Dec 12th 2014 at 4:46:57 PM •••

Why does everyone keep insisting on changing the synopsis of the game?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Dec 13th 2014 at 1:43:38 AM •••

It's a fresh new game and is attracting lots of editors, many of them will have ideas on what the description should say.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
wrm5 Since: Mar, 2014
Oct 28th 2014 at 5:43:25 PM •••

I want a discussion on this:

  • Based on a True Story: Aside from the 'Animatronics trying to kill you' theme, there is a... disturbing similarity between the backstory and the murders of some Chuck E Cheese employees perpetrated by Nathan Dunlap in Colorado in 1993 where he snuck into a Chuck E Cheese restaurant that he had been fired from and shot the 5 employees, before stealing as much money as he could and running off. Not only does each victim match up to the animatronics in both gameplay style and patterns, but also in minor tics. You can find out more in this video by Matthew Patrick of Game Theory.

It's a HUGE stretch. I watched the video and the theory is full of holes which even Matthew Patrick admits. At best we could put the example up as an "it's possible" for Very Loosely Based on a True Story (because Based on a True Story is not a trope in and of itself and should not get examples, VLBOATS is the closest that could fit) but I don't think we should even give it that much, given the theory is just that, a theory by one fan which is full of holes.

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wrm5 Since: Mar, 2014
Oct 28th 2014 at 8:07:16 PM •••

I have been informed by Fighteer in Ask The Tropers that it's not a valid example, as Based on a True Story is required to be stated such by Word of God. So yeah.

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Blacksun388 Since: Jan, 2011
Nov 1st 2014 at 2:04:54 PM •••

Is there another trope that it could fall under like the fridge horror or nightmare fuel? The parallels are still incredibly significant even if they aren't directly inspired by the event.

greenwings Since: Jul, 2012
Nov 4th 2014 at 5:55:39 PM •••

Fairly certain it's not Fridge Horror, and while technically it may fall under the general concept of Nightmare Fuel that page recently got purged of all examples not actually in the game, so it probably shouldn't be there either (though it seems someone's added it anyway).

I'd argue it doesn't have a place anywhere here. As mentioned already, it's full of holes.

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polybius81 Ace Combat Legend Since: Dec, 2013
Ace Combat Legend
Sep 19th 2014 at 1:00:51 PM •••

Foxy was misblamed, it was Chica who did the bite of 87 and Foxy had his attraction shut because the corporation thought he was not as popular as the others so shut him down.

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octopodesrex Since: Aug, 2010
Aug 17th 2014 at 12:49:37 AM •••

Fridge Brilliance: Freddy Plays Bizet's "Les Toreadors," about a bullfighter, much like the security guard, maneuvering around the giant killing bulls, IE animatronics.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Aug 17th 2014 at 4:27:35 AM •••

Ahem, not really seeing how it's Fridge Brilliance.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Wanderwolf Since: Feb, 2011
Aug 22nd 2014 at 2:53:01 AM •••

Makes sense, considering the lyrics translate as:

''Toreador, on guard! Toreador! Toreador! And think well, yes, think in fighting That a dark eye watches from above, And love waits for you, Toreador, love, love waits for you!''

PlotVitalNPC Since: Aug, 2010
Oct 29th 2014 at 5:57:49 PM •••

It's about people putting themselves in terrible danger for a thrill, more or less.

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DrWhooves Since: Jul, 2011
Oct 21st 2014 at 8:19:35 PM •••

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVPONdZBh6s - It's happening, and I love phone guy's understatement of the century line at the beginning.

greenwings Since: Jul, 2012
Sep 24th 2014 at 9:36:16 AM •••

Is there a number where we plan to stop listing everyone who beats 4/20 mode and puts up a video of it under the Crowning Moment of Awesome page? Yes, it was thought to be impossible, and the first guy definitely deserves a mention, but now that we know it's not impossible it's just the equivalent of beating a very hard level, and we don't list every time someone does that on other games.

Wanderwolf Since: Feb, 2011
Sep 8th 2014 at 7:18:45 AM •••

Since I don't think this bit of speculation belongs anywhere else...

Has anyone tried setting the custom night to 11/13/8/7?

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pinkiestar Since: Aug, 2013
Sep 16th 2014 at 6:03:53 PM •••

I'm pretty sure whatever that's supposed to do is only available in a version that isn't available to the public as of yet. Maybe I'll try anyway.

"hey...your DROOLING..." -toby fox 2016
AceOfScarabs I am now a shiny stone~ Since: Jan, 2001
I am now a shiny stone~
Sep 6th 2014 at 12:05:35 AM •••

Would Controllable Helplessness apply to this game in some form?

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SuperSauce Since: Dec, 2010
Sep 6th 2014 at 1:11:06 AM •••

I doubt it. You're never restrained as far as I can tell. You're just relatively stationary. That, and how else could you push the light and door buttons? They look too far away for an arm reach.

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JakesBrain Since: Jul, 2010
Sep 11th 2014 at 2:39:46 AM •••

Perhaps, but we really haven't identified a trope for when the fight-or-flight response is completely stymied. I really do think that's the primary reason this game freaks people out — there's no way to destroy your enemies, and you can't go anywhere because you're already in the safest room in the building. If Scott Cawthon's planning a sequel, I think that's the main thing he should bring along, as far as gameplay mechanics are concerned.

Kayube Since: Jan, 2001
Aug 28th 2014 at 8:51:30 AM •••

Is the fact that the player character's name is Mike Schmidt really a spoiler? I've seen people spoilering it out in various places. Just because it's not shown until the end of the game doesn't make it a spoiler- it's not significant to the plot at all.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Aug 28th 2014 at 10:36:42 AM •••

That's pretty common practice. It honestly baffles me, too. The Lego Movie pages does the same... Wyldstyle's real name is constantly spoilered out, but it's an utterly insignificant reveal.

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Wanderwolf Since: Feb, 2011
Sep 8th 2014 at 7:17:39 AM •••

In the case of Mike Schmidt, it may be because we're not actually certain he IS the player character. Sure, his name is on the check, but that's the only place it shows up.

Crypticspamninja Since: May, 2012
Sep 3rd 2014 at 12:15:10 PM •••

Would it be alright to replace the story(regarding Chica causing the Bite of '87) in the Nightmare Fuel tab, with an edited version of it? The story is ridden with grammar errors, and it's not a link to said story, it's the whole thing.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Sep 3rd 2014 at 1:43:58 PM •••

Fixing grammar is always a free action.

That said, that text is so long that removing it altogether would not be a problem either.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
AsleepInTheBooks Since: Oct, 2010
Sep 2nd 2014 at 12:19:49 PM •••

Should a page for notable fanworks be made (like the audio created by fans currently linked to on the nightmare fuel page) or is it alright to keep them in the pages they're already in? I know the MLP:FIM page eventually added fanworks but that seemed to be because there was a lot of it.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Sep 2nd 2014 at 2:00:52 PM •••

Well, MLP:FIM had a lot of fanworks with pages on the wiki. If this is the case here, you can make such a subpage.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SpinAttaxx It doesn't come from Zelda. Since: Jun, 2013
It doesn't come from Zelda.
Sep 1st 2014 at 2:42:40 PM •••

So why is the main page on "Videogame" and not "Video Game" like almost every other page on video games? Also, why the space in the titles for pages for this game (e.g. WMG/ Five Night's at Freddy's instead of WMG/Five Night's at Freddy's)?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Sep 1st 2014 at 2:48:03 PM •••

Because of The Problem with Pen Island. Videogame.Five Nights At Freddys and VideoGame.Five Nights At Freddys are the same article. Can't see the spacing issue, though.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SpinAttaxx Since: Jun, 2013
Sep 2nd 2014 at 3:46:17 AM •••

My previous post borked the spacing, but here's a pic of the problem with the space in the name. Note how the pages relating to FNAF have a space where every other page on the wiki does not.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Sep 2nd 2014 at 3:48:38 AM •••

I suspect it's a broken custom title. I'll send another one.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
RiverWhiteWolf Since: Sep, 2012
Aug 27th 2014 at 9:36:50 PM •••

Someone apparently got the sound files out of the game. Turns out, one of the screams used when you're caught goes from a mechanical sound (which is all you hear ingame) to a child screaming. Just thought it was interesting.

Hedgehog4891 Since: Mar, 2012
Aug 25th 2014 at 10:36:03 PM •••

Should beating 4-20 mode count as Lord British Postulate? It's not a NPC, but the game's creator didn't think it could be done until it happened, and I think it's the same basic concept.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Aug 26th 2014 at 12:57:30 AM •••

Nah, Lord British Postulate is about NPCs specifically. Dunno what the trope is for your scenario but Lost And Found might know.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
supervamp78 Since: Feb, 2011
Aug 15th 2014 at 3:47:54 AM •••

Fridge horror, if it's true that the animatronic mascots are getting more hostile over time wouldn't it be safe to say that they will eventually be unsatisfied with guards and will end up getting out eventually?

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RonaldBakbacon Since: Jan, 2001
Aug 18th 2014 at 5:16:01 PM •••

Double down on that: Freddy's is closing at the end of the year. Without security guards as bait, what's to stop them from getting out?

DeadlyLampshade Since: Oct, 2013
Aug 18th 2014 at 8:51:39 PM •••

They'd probably be terminated when they finally close down.

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Wanderwolf Since: Feb, 2011
Aug 23rd 2014 at 12:46:39 AM •••

I see just one problem with that — they shouldn't be able to move as it is. So if they're only "safe" during business hours, then what happens if there are no more business hours?

Kayube Since: Jan, 2001
Aug 23rd 2014 at 9:09:41 AM •••

Well, they were set up to move all the time, before the Bite of '87, which resulted in them being set to only move at night, ostensibly to keep them working properly. Presumably once the place closes down, if they can't be totally dismantled they could at least just be set up to not move at all like they do during the day, since they aren't needed to function. Granted, since the machines are actually haunted, that might not work as well as one might expect...

pinkiestar Prince of This World's Future™ Since: Aug, 2013
Prince of This World's Future™
Aug 20th 2014 at 7:35:00 AM •••

should there be a characters page?

there are characters, but not really that many...

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Wanderwolf Since: Feb, 2011
Aug 22nd 2014 at 2:56:28 AM •••

Yeah, I have to doubt the need for a characters page here. All we have are Phone Guy, Bonnie, Chica, Foxy, Freddy and Golden Freddy (if you count Golden Freddy separately) and the player character, Mike Schmidt.

Huh. I never noticed before that the standard activation order was alphabetical. B, C, Fo, Fr, G.

Wanderwolf Since: Feb, 2011
Aug 19th 2014 at 8:41:45 PM •••

Just added a new item to the Trivia tab, a combo of Freeze-Frame Bonus and Genius Bonus. That distorted speech on Night 5? It's actually a reversed, sped-up, pitch-shifted quote from Autobiography of a Yogi:

"Sir, it is lamentable that mass agricultural development is not speeded by fuller use of your marvelous mechanisms. Would it not be easily possible to employ some of them in quick laboratory experiments to indicate the influence of various types of fertilizers on plant growth?" "You are right. Countless uses of Bose instruments will be made by future generations. The scientist seldom knows contemporaneous reward; it is enough to possess the joy of creative service."

(The voice actually cuts off in the middle of "creative".)

Why is this a bonus? Because this is the chapter in which the yogi shows that metal is alive...

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